Re: There MUST BE JOY TODAY IN ED AND ELAINE BROWN'S SOULS FOR THE

[Guest Raymond Karczewski]

Re: There MUST BE JOY TODAY IN ED AND ELAINE BROWN'S SOULS FOR THE

MIGHTY GOVERNMENT HAS STRUCK OUT!!!

 

Cardinal Chunder <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com>

 

Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:59:03 +0100

 

"Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message

 

cc: >> There is a law, as I have already supplied links to.

 

rk: And it applies ONLY to "persons" fictitious, corporate entities

who are SUBJECT to such corporate policies masquerading as law.

 

cc: > Not just common law either but laid out clearly in statutes.

 

rk: See above. You might want to show us the Common Law you are

referring to. Such Common law does not exist as the income tax is

based in corporate policy, so-called statutory "Color of the Law."

 

cc: > You can pretend that the internal revenue code does not exist,

 

rk: Oh it exists alright for those it exists for, BUT NOT FOR

EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ARE NOT "SUBJECT" TO IT, such as myself, Ed, and

Elaine Brown, and millions of others.

 

cc: > or choose to believe some frivolous kook theory why it

doesn't apply. Ignorance of the law is not going to protect you

though.

 

rk: Ignorance of the law is what gets one THROWN INTO JAIL.

Knowledge of the law is what gets you THROWN OUT OF JAIL.

 

cc: > No, I don't volunteer to pay taxes. It is a legal requirement

that I do.

 

rk: That makes you either subject to corporate policy by your own

consent, or IT MAKES YOU COWARDLY AND STUPID.

 

cc: > Certainly I may try to minimize the taxes I pay subject to my

situation but that does not entitle me to just ignore the law in the

first place.

 

rk: THERE IS NO LAW. There is only Corporate policy which calls

itself law and which applies ONLY to certain "PERSONS" .

 

cc: > If you are stupid enough to not pay taxes, contrary to the law

then you will quickly find yourself in court.

 

rk: No doubt, the Satanic system operates on threats, intimidation,

guns, jails, mercenary enforcers, etc.

 

rk: Men and Women of the Sovereign People, those of understanding, of

integrity, of backbone will stand up to such tyranny. COWARDS WILL

NOT!!

 

rk: The Satanic System requires the employment of cowardly, anonymous

disinformation agents such as youself to deceive the public into

GIVING THEIR CONSENT to their own exploitation and prosecution.

 

rk: Makes the Income TAX-PAYING general public look kinda STUPID,

doesn't it?

 

Raymond Ronald Karczewski

[Guest Cardinal Chunder]

Raymond Karczewski wrote:

> Re: There MUST BE JOY TODAY IN ED AND ELAINE BROWN'S SOULS FOR THE

> MIGHTY GOVERNMENT HAS STRUCK OUT!!!

>

> Cardinal Chunder <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com>

>

> Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:59:03 +0100

>

> "Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message

>

> cc: >> There is a law, as I have already supplied links to.

>

> rk: And it applies ONLY to "persons" fictitious, corporate entities

> who are SUBJECT to such corporate policies masquerading as law.

 

Rot. It applies to individuals as it quite clearly states. Calling

yourself a living christ, a sovereign person or some other kook baloney

does not exempt you from paying taxes.

> cc: > Not just common law either but laid out clearly in statutes.

>

> rk: See above. You might want to show us the Common Law you are

> referring to. Such Common law does not exist as the income tax is

> based in corporate policy, so-called statutory "Color of the Law."

 

I have already linked to an IRS document citing numerous court cases

that show how worthless kook defences have been over the years. There's

your precedent.

> cc: > You can pretend that the internal revenue code does not exist,

>

> rk: Oh it exists alright for those it exists for, BUT NOT FOR

> EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ARE NOT "SUBJECT" TO IT, such as myself, Ed, and

> Elaine Brown, and millions of others.

 

Twisting the law in your kooky brain out of all recognition does not

make it go away.

> cc: > or choose to believe some frivolous kook theory why it

> doesn't apply. Ignorance of the law is not going to protect you

> though.

>

> rk: Ignorance of the law is what gets one THROWN INTO JAIL.

> Knowledge of the law is what gets you THROWN OUT OF JAIL.

 

So is ignorance why you've been thrown in jail so many times?

 

I have to hand it to you. Being able to turn some minor traffic

misdemeanour into a decade old crusade involving court appearances,

false liens, legal threats, jail time, hunger strikes and lots'o'ranting

sure is impressive. A whole ten years of your life just wasted on a

krazy krusade that makes no sense to anybody.

 

Saner people may have just paid the lousy fine and moved on.

> cc: > No, I don't volunteer to pay taxes. It is a legal requirement

> that I do.

>

> rk: That makes you either subject to corporate policy by your own

> consent, or IT MAKES YOU COWARDLY AND STUPID.

 

No, it makes me a law abiding citizen. There is nothing cowardly about

wishing to earn money and stay out of jail. You should try it some time.

> cc: > Certainly I may try to minimize the taxes I pay subject to my

> situation but that does not entitle me to just ignore the law in the

> first place.

>

> rk: THERE IS NO LAW. There is only Corporate policy which calls

> itself law and which applies ONLY to certain "PERSONS" .

 

You forgot to close your eyes, turn around three times and click your

heels. That makes the law go away for sure.

> cc: > If you are stupid enough to not pay taxes, contrary to the law

> then you will quickly find yourself in court.

>

> rk: No doubt, the Satanic system operates on threats, intimidation,

> guns, jails, mercenary enforcers, etc.

 

Here on planet Earth it is called the law. If you do not wish to live by

the laws of the United States, vote for someone who will repeal them, or

failing that move somewhere which does have those laws.

> rk: Men and Women of the Sovereign People, those of understanding, of

> integrity, of backbone will stand up to such tyranny. COWARDS WILL

> NOT!!

 

I see. So it's cowardly to enjoy a nice life, a house, car, money for

vacation and leisure, freedom to do whatever I want?

 

Instead I should be ranting at police officers, and ultimately holing

myself up with guns like these two dickheads waiting to be hauled off to

jail or shot in the process?

 

Tell me Ray, does your wife receive medicaid or medicare? I ask because

you claim that Ed & Elaine Brown offered to pay for some quack

naturopathist when you are probably eligible for free proper medical

care, courtesy of the state and federal government. Do you already avail

of medicaid or medicare? A yes or no answer will suffice. Evasion of the

question will be taken to mean yes.

> rk: The Satanic System requires the employment of cowardly, anonymous

> disinformation agents such as youself to deceive the public into

> GIVING THEIR CONSENT to their own exploitation and prosecution.

 

Paying taxes is not consensual dumb ass. Neither am I paid to make fun

of kooks like you. It's a hobby.

> rk: Makes the Income TAX-PAYING general public look kinda STUPID,

> doesn't it?

 

So sayeth the person who lives in abject squalor with his sick wife,

spending what meagre funds he has to dial into militia kook radio shows.

 

You really crack me up.