Guest LJ Fan Club Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 "Holly Cost" <holly@spamnomore.com> wrote in message news:MPG.211c8f2ba61f9a50989692@news.alt.net... Lawyers, Fathers Seek to Ban Self-Proclaimed Pedophile From Community Friday , August 03, 2007 A self-proclaimed pedophile who posted pictures of little girls to his Web site and made blood boil by insisting he was within the law to do so soon may find himself in the center of another uncomfortable dialogue: whether he will be banned from a community. Two California lawyers on Friday were scheduled in court to seek a temporary restraining order to keep Larry Jackowski ,(aka St. Jackanapes), away from the Santa Clarita Valley area, ABC7.com reports. Click here to read the full story. "We're firmly convinced that he creates a clear and present danger and a risk to our daughters and to the children in this community, and he stated that he's coming back," said lawyer Richard Patterson, who along Anthony Zinnanti is seeking the restraining order. Both have daughters. Jackowski says he is innocent. "All I can say is I've done nothing illegal since I've been here in California, the whole state. My conscience is clear. I'm just going to keep on keeping on what I'm doing, obeying the law," he said. Jackowski has insisted he was never sexually abused as a child and said he created the Web site to promote association, friendship and legal, consensual cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls, he said. Earlier this week Jackowski defended his right to post pictures of little girls, telling FOX News he was considering a lawsuit against the Santa Monica, Calif., police department for posting his picture on their Web site after he recently surfaced there. Santa Monica police "questioned me last week in a restaurant, and right before they left one of the officers asked if they could take my picture," he said. "I figured this might be beneficial if a child is sexually assaulted in Santa Monica - they could just pull that out and immediately eliminate me as a suspect," he said. "I had previously explained to him my concerns about all the threats and everything and it didn't even enter my mind that they would immediately turn around and put this out as some kind of a sex offender notification. ... It was on the Internet the very next day." Warnings that Jackowski had surfaced in Santa Monica spread like wildfire, with several posting his mug shot along with descriptions of his car - a Blue 1993 Ford Escort two-door with Washington license plate - and even hourly postings of sightings throughout Santa Monica. Circulating a flier with Jackowski's description and a warning of his whereabouts is unusual for the police considering he's not wanted for any crime, and has never been convicted of any sexually related crimes. The flier simply warns parents about Jackowski's residence in the area and of his proclivity for little girls. When pressed, Jackowski, 45, insisted he was doing nothing wrong by posting photos of children as young as 3, even admitting that he would have sex with little girls if it weren't against the law. Jackowski ran the Web site "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love" from where he lived in Washington state, until it was shut down by its server after widespread public outrage. Wearing his trademark dark sunglasses, which he refused to remove, Jackowski faced Ron Tebo, a father who created the Web site http://www.jackJackowski.com to counter the self-proclaimed pedophile's actions and "take traffic away." In a dramatic on-air confrontation, Tebo pressed Jackowski to respond to allegations that he was still taking pictures of children. "I don't do it anymore," Jackowski said, adding that his latest Web site no longer was available online. Appearing earlier on "The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet," Jackowski made this startling admission: "I got to be honest with you - if it was legal and if it was a completely consensual thing, I could see myself taking it all the way to a sexual" level. Click here to see the interview on "The Morning Show With Mike and Juliet." Jackowski has never been convicted of a sex crime, and police say they have had no legal grounds on which to shut down any of his Web sites because the content and photos posted on them haven't been pornographic. Jackowski tells other pedophiles where to go to be around children - suggesting swimming pools, parks, elementary-school plays and libraries. When he was posting photos, they would be pictures he'd snapped when he was in places where children were gathered. Jackowski even rated his photo shoots - from one to five hearts - for fellow pedophiles, assigning one heart for places or events that failed to attract an abundance of little girls, to five hearts for photo shoots offering a plethora of young children. He has said he is attracted to little girls between the ages of 3 and 11. "My primary physical and emotional attraction is to pre-pubescent girls," he said on the FOX morning show on Tuesday. FOX News first interviewed Jackowski in March, when he still was in Washington. "I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women," he said then. "I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there." "I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a lot of people like me," Jackowski told FOX News in March. "They have the attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws. It just makes me happy to attend these events." Said lawyer-dad Zinnanti: "It's not OK to go out and put those images on the Internet. It's a blatant violation of the law." Quote
Guest LJ Fan Club Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 "Holly Cost" <holly@spamnomore.com> wrote in message news:MPG.211c8f22aa9192a7989691@news.alt.net... Lawyers, Fathers Seek to Ban Self-Proclaimed Pedophile From Community Friday , August 03, 2007 A self-proclaimed pedophile who posted pictures of little girls to his Web site and made blood boil by insisting he was within the law to do so soon may find himself in the center of another uncomfortable dialogue: whether he will be banned from a community. Two California lawyers on Friday were scheduled in court to seek a temporary restraining order to keep Larry Jackowski ,(aka St. Jackanapes), away from the Santa Clarita Valley area, ABC7.com reports. Click here to read the full story. "We're firmly convinced that he creates a clear and present danger and a risk to our daughters and to the children in this community, and he stated that he's coming back," said lawyer Richard Patterson, who along Anthony Zinnanti is seeking the restraining order. Both have daughters. Jackowski says he is innocent. "All I can say is I've done nothing illegal since I've been here in California, the whole state. My conscience is clear. I'm just going to keep on keeping on what I'm doing, obeying the law," he said. Jackowski has insisted he was never sexually abused as a child and said he created the Web site to promote association, friendship and legal, consensual cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls, he said. Earlier this week Jackowski defended his right to post pictures of little girls, telling FOX News he was considering a lawsuit against the Santa Monica, Calif., police department for posting his picture on their Web site after he recently surfaced there. Santa Monica police "questioned me last week in a restaurant, and right before they left one of the officers asked if they could take my picture," he said. "I figured this might be beneficial if a child is sexually assaulted in Santa Monica - they could just pull that out and immediately eliminate me as a suspect," he said. "I had previously explained to him my concerns about all the threats and everything and it didn't even enter my mind that they would immediately turn around and put this out as some kind of a sex offender notification. ... It was on the Internet the very next day." Warnings that Jackowski had surfaced in Santa Monica spread like wildfire, with several posting his mug shot along with descriptions of his car - a Blue 1993 Ford Escort two-door with Washington license plate - and even hourly postings of sightings throughout Santa Monica. Circulating a flier with Jackowski's description and a warning of his whereabouts is unusual for the police considering he's not wanted for any crime, and has never been convicted of any sexually related crimes. The flier simply warns parents about Jackowski's residence in the area and of his proclivity for little girls. When pressed, Jackowski, 45, insisted he was doing nothing wrong by posting photos of children as young as 3, even admitting that he would have sex with little girls if it weren't against the law. Jackowski ran the Web site "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love" from where he lived in Washington state, until it was shut down by its server after widespread public outrage. Wearing his trademark dark sunglasses, which he refused to remove, Jackowski faced Ron Tebo, a father who created the Web site http://www.jackJackowski.com to counter the self-proclaimed pedophile's actions and "take traffic away." In a dramatic on-air confrontation, Tebo pressed Jackowski to respond to allegations that he was still taking pictures of children. "I don't do it anymore," Jackowski said, adding that his latest Web site no longer was available online. Appearing earlier on "The Morning Show With Mike & Juliet," Jackowski made this startling admission: "I got to be honest with you - if it was legal and if it was a completely consensual thing, I could see myself taking it all the way to a sexual" level. Click here to see the interview on "The Morning Show With Mike and Juliet." Jackowski has never been convicted of a sex crime, and police say they have had no legal grounds on which to shut down any of his Web sites because the content and photos posted on them haven't been pornographic. Jackowski tells other pedophiles where to go to be around children - suggesting swimming pools, parks, elementary-school plays and libraries. When he was posting photos, they would be pictures he'd snapped when he was in places where children were gathered. Jackowski even rated his photo shoots - from one to five hearts - for fellow pedophiles, assigning one heart for places or events that failed to attract an abundance of little girls, to five hearts for photo shoots offering a plethora of young children. He has said he is attracted to little girls between the ages of 3 and 11. "My primary physical and emotional attraction is to pre-pubescent girls," he said on the FOX morning show on Tuesday. FOX News first interviewed Jackowski in March, when he still was in Washington. "I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women," he said then. "I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there." "I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a lot of people like me," Jackowski told FOX News in March. "They have the attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws. It just makes me happy to attend these events." Said lawyer-dad Zinnanti: "It's not OK to go out and put those images on the Internet. It's a blatant violation of the law." Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits > restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to > eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's > in it. Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for further details. > And don't you just love those rubber tubes you find in tamales? And > those are the tamales from reputable companies sold in retail markets. > You're safer with the homemade ones off the street. Those are the free condoments. Quote
Guest Richard Catto Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Father Haskell wrote: > On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits > > restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to > > eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's > > in it. > Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for > further details. We call ground beef, minced meat. In our supermarkets, you can watch them mince the meat and take a dump into it for you in the butchery which has glass windows and is situated behind the refrigerated display counters. Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 On Aug 3, 12:14 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Father Haskell wrote: > > On Aug 2, 10:33 pm, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > > This is true. My grandfather used to have a chicken and biscuits > > > restaurant (of course they served other stuff) and whenever we went out to > > > eat if anyone started to order a bowl of chili, he always reminded us what's > > > in it. > > Which is what's in ground beef generally. Read Eric Schlosser for > > further details. > > We call ground beef, minced meat. In our supermarkets, you can watch > them mince the meat and take a dump into it for you in the butchery > which has glass windows and is situated behind the refrigerated > display counters. Wow, SA is way ahead of us poor overregulated Americans. Most of the yummy fecal content in hamburger patties here comes from the slaughterhouses during gutting, when the not so infrequent colon gets nicked and spills its contents into the abdominal cavity. Damn the FDA, we want MORE shit in our Big Macs, not less. Damn the fascist pig bureaucrats, damn them to heck. Quote
Guest I Don't Know Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 "Irv Hyatt" <irvhyatt@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:46b030fd$0$20598$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... Ouch! Wisdom from a Seventh-Century Missionary When Columbanus set out from Bangor somewhere near the end of the sixth century, 50 years old, after a long career of preparing men for the mission field, he and his little band were determined to follow Christ wherever He led, and to proclaim His Kingdom without compromise. That almost got them thrown out and shipped back to Ireland (a divine breakdown in the vessel carrying the exiles back to Ireland led our hero to believe God wanted them to stay, which he did, moving on further to the south). Then, as if it weren't enough to poke his finger in the eye of the secular authority, he began criticizing the moribund condition of the Catholic Church in his neck of the woods. He sent letters to at least two popes, declaring that their bishops and priests weren't doing their job, and encouraging them to do something about it. Of course, this news got back to the bishops and priests, and they determined to convene a synod in order to confront this backwoods boy about how things worked in the Church in Gaul. Only to get this reply: I render thanks to my God, that for my sake so many holy men have been gathered together to treat of the truth of faith and good works, and, as befits such, to judge of the matters under dispute with a just judgment, through senses sharpened to the discernment of good and evil. Would that you did that more often. Ouch! Wow, what a zinger. He, of course, politely refused to come when called, and instead proceeded to outline for his summoners what they should be doing instead of seeking some leg up on him. Here is his peroration: Let each maintain what he has grasped; but let all maintain the gospel, and both parties [his Celts and the Roman priests], like single harmonious members of one body, follow Christ the head of all by His own commands, which were revealed by Him to be accomplished in charity and peace. And these two cannot be perfectly accomplished, save by truly humble and unitedly spiritual men, who fulfill Christ's commands, as the Lord Himself bears witness, If ye love Me, keep My commandments, this is My commandment, that ye love one another, as I also have loved you, for in this shall all know that ye are My disciples, if ye love one another. Thus unity of minds and peace and charity then can be assured, spread abroad in the bowels of believers by the Holy Ghost, when all alike long to fulfill the divine commands; for the fiction of peace and charity between the imperfect will be such as is the measure of disagreement in their practical pursuits. Ouch! For the non-Celtic reader, here's a paraphrase of that last paragraph: You talk a good game, about loving me and wanting the best for me; but if you would just practice what you profess to want to lecture me about, then we would have no dispute in the first place, and we'd both be able to get on with the work of the Gospel harmoniously together. If Columbanus is reading this issue of our newsletter, I hope he's pointing and saying, "Yes, just like that." As John Armstrong exhorts us to work hard at unity rather than turf-protecting and empire-building; as Bob Lynn reminds us of what real Gospel love looks like on the ground, where people live each day; as David Naugle celebrates William Cowper celebrating the grand redemptive work of Jesus and the coming of His eschatological Kingdom; as we see hear two young pastors laboring together to equip the next generation of church planters; and as we consider two very valuable books for the accomplishing of all the above, let us accept whatever occasional "Ouch!" may come from our dear writers and press on with them to discover what God has for each one of us in furthering the Gospel of His Kingdom, His Son, and His love. T. M. Moore Editor Worldview Church I Believe in One Church Dr. John Armstrong We must think about the generation that is following us. They long for relational expressions of community that go beyond the failures of the crumbling American church establishment. My Rather Idiosyncratic Worldview Reading List Rev. Robert Lynn A Puritan preacher was reported to have said, "Sell your bed and buy a book, as long as it is a good book." Rediscovering the Forgotten Poet Laureate of a Christian Worldview: William Cowper and Redemption Dr. David Naugle We are operating as Christians with an amputated Bible and as a result have a disfigured view of the Christian faith. To Teach Others Also An Interview with Jim Weaver and Josh Guzman Not only do the unique gifts of the apprentices serve the church, but their presence sends a signal to the whole church about the importance of developing leaders, church-planting, and the disciple-making work of the pastor. Book Reviews Picturing the Gospel: Tapping the Power of the Bible's Imagery Reviewed by Jimmy Davis Kingdom Triangle: Recover the Christian Mind, Renovate the Soul, Restore the Spirit's Power Reviewed by T.M. Moore Quote
Guest I Don't Know Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 "St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2119f393c9bd37f4989718@news.alt.net... Ouch! Wisdom from a Seventh-Century Missionary When Columbanus set out from Bangor somewhere near the end of the sixth century, 50 years old, after a long career of preparing men for the mission field, he and his little band were determined to follow Christ wherever He led, and to proclaim His Kingdom without compromise. That almost got them thrown out and shipped back to Ireland (a divine breakdown in the vessel carrying the exiles back to Ireland led our hero to believe God wanted them to stay, which he did, moving on further to the south). Then, as if it weren't enough to poke his finger in the eye of the secular authority, he began criticizing the moribund condition of the Catholic Church in his neck of the woods. He sent letters to at least two popes, declaring that their bishops and priests weren't doing their job, and encouraging them to do something about it. Of course, this news got back to the bishops and priests, and they determined to convene a synod in order to confront this backwoods boy about how things worked in the Church in Gaul. Only to get this reply: I render thanks to my God, that for my sake so many holy men have been gathered together to treat of the truth of faith and good works, and, as befits such, to judge of the matters under dispute with a just judgment, through senses sharpened to the discernment of good and evil. Would that you did that more often. Ouch! Wow, what a zinger. He, of course, politely refused to come when called, and instead proceeded to outline for his summoners what they should be doing instead of seeking some leg up on him. Here is his peroration: Let each maintain what he has grasped; but let all maintain the gospel, and both parties [his Celts and the Roman priests], like single harmonious members of one body, follow Christ the head of all by His own commands, which were revealed by Him to be accomplished in charity and peace. And these two cannot be perfectly accomplished, save by truly humble and unitedly spiritual men, who fulfill Christ's commands, as the Lord Himself bears witness, If ye love Me, keep My commandments, this is My commandment, that ye love one another, as I also have loved you, for in this shall all know that ye are My disciples, if ye love one another. Thus unity of minds and peace and charity then can be assured, spread abroad in the bowels of believers by the Holy Ghost, when all alike long to fulfill the divine commands; for the fiction of peace and charity between the imperfect will be such as is the measure of disagreement in their practical pursuits. Ouch! For the non-Celtic reader, here's a paraphrase of that last paragraph: You talk a good game, about loving me and wanting the best for me; but if you would just practice what you profess to want to lecture me about, then we would have no dispute in the first place, and we'd both be able to get on with the work of the Gospel harmoniously together. If Columbanus is reading this issue of our newsletter, I hope he's pointing and saying, "Yes, just like that." As John Armstrong exhorts us to work hard at unity rather than turf-protecting and empire-building; as Bob Lynn reminds us of what real Gospel love looks like on the ground, where people live each day; as David Naugle celebrates William Cowper celebrating the grand redemptive work of Jesus and the coming of His eschatological Kingdom; as we see hear two young pastors laboring together to equip the next generation of church planters; and as we consider two very valuable books for the accomplishing of all the above, let us accept whatever occasional "Ouch!" may come from our dear writers and press on with them to discover what God has for each one of us in furthering the Gospel of His Kingdom, His Son, and His love. T. M. Moore Editor Worldview Church I Believe in One Church Dr. John Armstrong We must think about the generation that is following us. They long for relational expressions of community that go beyond the failures of the crumbling American church establishment. My Rather Idiosyncratic Worldview Reading List Rev. Robert Lynn A Puritan preacher was reported to have said, "Sell your bed and buy a book, as long as it is a good book." Rediscovering the Forgotten Poet Laureate of a Christian Worldview: William Cowper and Redemption Dr. David Naugle We are operating as Christians with an amputated Bible and as a result have a disfigured view of the Christian faith. To Teach Others Also An Interview with Jim Weaver and Josh Guzman Not only do the unique gifts of the apprentices serve the church, but their presence sends a signal to the whole church about the importance of developing leaders, church-planting, and the disciple-making work of the pastor. Book Reviews Picturing the Gospel: Tapping the Power of the Bible's Imagery Reviewed by Jimmy Davis Kingdom Triangle: Recover the Christian Mind, Renovate the Soul, Restore the Spirit's Power Reviewed by T.M. Moore Quote
Guest I Don't Know Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 "St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2119ed5ac50a1217989716@news.alt.net... Where Are We Headed In these last days, we are seeing terrorist attacks, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, mudslides, and many other natural disasters - the Lord told us these things must happen, and He compared them to the birth pangs of a woman. We see these events getting worse, seemingly with more frequency. Having said that, these are not the only signs He gave us to show us when His return would be near: There was the sign of knowledge increasing; people traveling more often and to greater distances Dan 12:4 ; the persecution of Christians is starting to become a prophecy-fulfillment, as we see many countries adopting laws prohibiting Christian activities. We can no longer have the Ten Commandments in some places; some words, such as Christmas, are now considered offensive; we see Christian churches accepting homosexual preachers. And there are so many more things happening that tell us Jesus is coming. One of the reasons I have for writing this book is the fact that there are many Christians who teach others that they should not study the Book of Revelation. They give many reasons for this: Some say it's too confusing, and no one can understand it; others say it's not meant to be read. While the excuses are never- ending, I'm here to tell you three reasons why you should study the Book of Revelation. First, Revelation is the only book with the promise of being blessed if you read it. Rev. i:3 Blessed is he who reads the words of this prophecy... God does not change His mind - whoever reads His Revelation will be blessed. Yet we still see people teaching that we should not study this book. God knew that would happen, so He promised a blessing for those of us who read it, who hear it and, of course, for those who adhere to that which is in it. The second reason to study the book is that it is the Revelation of Jesus Christ Himself. If you believe in Him, you should read His revelation. He told John to write it because He had you in mind. Consider it a letter directly from Jesus to you. When I read it, I realize He wrote it with a desire for me to read it. And as I read it, I'm also blessed knowing He is showing me things that the Old Testament prophets would have loved to have read and understood. The third reason to study the book is that prophecy glorifies God when it is fulfilled. Prophecy is what God promises will happen in the future. Because we live in time, no man or angel knows the future. God lives in eternity, allowing Him to see the future and the past as if it is the present. The prophecy in the Bible proves to us that it could only have come from God. Some prophets wrote down a prophecy and asked God for the interpretation, which shows us they were not the authors of the Bible. When Daniel asked God for the meaning of some prophecies God gave him, God told him it was not for him to understand; rather, it was for those living in the last days. Dan 12:8. Having said that, if we read the Book of Revelation and understand God's prophecies that are about to happen, will we not give God the glory when they do happen? Of course we will. So as you see them start to happen, you can tell God, "Lord, you said it would happen, and it did happen as you said. I give you all the glory." I want to say this to all my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ: I believe Jesus Christ is about to return, and I want to challenge you to read this book so that you may understand some of the signs that are happening at this very moment in preparation for His return. This book arranges the prophecies of the Book of Revelation chronologically so that God's prophecies will be easier to understand. My intentions are to get you to realize that the Book of Revelation shows us how great and just our God and Savior is. I truly believe that we are at the brink of the moment when we will meet Jesus in the air. That's why I felt the need to write this book. I want to mention that I saw a show on TV in which thousands of Christians from another country were all worshiping God. Our faith is global, which has made me realize that when the rapture takes place, millions of us including, Catholics, Protestants, and all those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior, will meet our King, Jesus Christ, in the air. I can't wait to be together with all of you in the presence of the One who made me - He is my hero, Jesus Christ. I want to mention one more thing, today Christians are being tested, we have seen movies like the passion of the Christ and we can read books like the Davinci code along with the movie, God is putting the ball in your court and He wants to know if you will you believe in Christ as God the Son and as your savior or will you doubt in Him? It's your decision, and I hope that after reading this book you will be able to make a clear decision in accepting Jesus as your savior and that you will believe everything that He said about Himself. Let me give you the example of the two thieves on the cross; when Jesus was crucified two thieves were crucified next to Him, they both knew that Jesus was claiming to be the Christ, but they saw that He was about to die, and so one of them said; if you are the Christ; come down, save yourself and save us, in other words; if you are really the Christ why are you on the cross? There is no way that I will believe in you or in what you say since you are about to die, and we know that the Christ is supposed to be a King who will live forever and have a kingdom that will never end. This man made the decision to reject Jesus as his Savior and he did not believe that He was the Christ. Jesus did not say a word to that man, but the other thief said; do you not fear God, we deserve death for our sins but this man has done nothing wrong, Lord, I believe that you are the Christ even though you are on a cross, I see past the circumstances and I put my faith in you, so please remember me when you come in your kingdom, in other words; when you come to be King of this earth, don't forget about me. Jesus did answer him, He said; today you will be with me in paradise. Both thieves saw the one who claimed to be the Christ, and what they saw caused doubts yet one chose not to believe while the other one believed and is now in paradise, in this life there are a lot of doubts, what decision will you chose to take? The Promise of His Return John was with the disciples in the presence of the resurrected Christ, and they asked Jesus if He was finally going to be the King of Israel Jer. 23:5-6 just as the prophets had promised. Acts \-.6-i Then, indeed, these coming together, they asked Him, saying, Lord, do You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? (the disciples asked Him If He would be King now?) And He said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in His own authority (We notice that Jesus did not deny that He will be King of Israel, but it was not time yet). Acts i:9-n And saying these things, as they watched, He was taken up. And a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they were looking intently into the Heaven, He having gone, even behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them, who also said, Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into the Heaven? This same Jesus who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven. The disciples of Jesus Christ were eyewitnesses to His ascension on a cloud into Heaven, and they had been told that just as Jesus went up into the clouds, He would return in the clouds. They are the authors of the New Testament, and they are the ones who tell us of His glorious return in the clouds, and we are getting close to that day. There are so many verses in the New Testament that say that Jesus will come in the clouds, and we also see this in the Old Testament, such as in Dan 7:13 / saw in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of man (Jesus) came with the clouds of Heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days (God the Father), and they brought Him near before Him. The reason He constantly talks about returning in the clouds is because He wants us to look up into Heaven in anticipation of His return, so keep your eyes on Him. He told us to be ready, to watch for His return! This also prevents us from believing in those who claim to be Jesus Christ since we are told that He will come in the clouds and every eye will see Him Rev i:7 when He comes back. That is why no one should have believed David Koresh, and no one should believe the hundreds of men who today say that they are Jesus Christ. THE PROMISE: JESUS WAS TAKEN UP IN THE CLOUDS AND-HE WILL RETURN IN THE CLOUDS I want to explain the whole verse of Revelation 1:7 Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. We read that He will come in the clouds and "every eye will see Him" this includes those who "pierced Him" but those who pierced Christ are dead, so how is this possible? We must first learn that we all pierced Him since He died for us in our place, but this scripture is also speaking of those who rejected Him and are now dead, they will be able to see Him from hell because they are not limited to the earthly eyes which can only see within a short distance, God will allow them to see our Lord who they rejected, when He takes those Christians who trusted in Him and in His promises. As they see this event happen they will be filled with sorrow along with those on earth watching the saints rejoicing as Christ receives them and gives them white robes while those who rejected Him cannot have part in this awesome event known as the rapture that is why we read "all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him." All those who did not believe in the Word of God will realize that His promises were true but it will be too late for them. Hopefully you will not be one of those wailing but rather one of those caught up to meet Jesus in the air. 1 Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. Do not miss out on this event! The idea that someone can see far distances is not unbiblical for we see that Stephen who was on earth saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God in Heaven. Act 7:55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, looking up intently into Heaven, he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. Act 7:56 And he said, Behold, I see Heaven opened and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God. This proves that those who pierced Jesus will indeed see Him from hell when He raptures the church. Quote
Guest I Don't Know Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 "St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2119ed13f9fbd8df989715@news.alt.net... Where Are We Headed In these last days, we are seeing terrorist attacks, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, mudslides, and many other natural disasters - the Lord told us these things must happen, and He compared them to the birth pangs of a woman. We see these events getting worse, seemingly with more frequency. Having said that, these are not the only signs He gave us to show us when His return would be near: There was the sign of knowledge increasing; people traveling more often and to greater distances Dan 12:4 ; the persecution of Christians is starting to become a prophecy-fulfillment, as we see many countries adopting laws prohibiting Christian activities. We can no longer have the Ten Commandments in some places; some words, such as Christmas, are now considered offensive; we see Christian churches accepting homosexual preachers. And there are so many more things happening that tell us Jesus is coming. One of the reasons I have for writing this book is the fact that there are many Christians who teach others that they should not study the Book of Revelation. They give many reasons for this: Some say it's too confusing, and no one can understand it; others say it's not meant to be read. While the excuses are never- ending, I'm here to tell you three reasons why you should study the Book of Revelation. First, Revelation is the only book with the promise of being blessed if you read it. Rev. i:3 Blessed is he who reads the words of this prophecy... God does not change His mind - whoever reads His Revelation will be blessed. Yet we still see people teaching that we should not study this book. God knew that would happen, so He promised a blessing for those of us who read it, who hear it and, of course, for those who adhere to that which is in it. The second reason to study the book is that it is the Revelation of Jesus Christ Himself. If you believe in Him, you should read His revelation. He told John to write it because He had you in mind. Consider it a letter directly from Jesus to you. When I read it, I realize He wrote it with a desire for me to read it. And as I read it, I'm also blessed knowing He is showing me things that the Old Testament prophets would have loved to have read and understood. The third reason to study the book is that prophecy glorifies God when it is fulfilled. Prophecy is what God promises will happen in the future. Because we live in time, no man or angel knows the future. God lives in eternity, allowing Him to see the future and the past as if it is the present. The prophecy in the Bible proves to us that it could only have come from God. Some prophets wrote down a prophecy and asked God for the interpretation, which shows us they were not the authors of the Bible. When Daniel asked God for the meaning of some prophecies God gave him, God told him it was not for him to understand; rather, it was for those living in the last days. Dan 12:8. Having said that, if we read the Book of Revelation and understand God's prophecies that are about to happen, will we not give God the glory when they do happen? Of course we will. So as you see them start to happen, you can tell God, "Lord, you said it would happen, and it did happen as you said. I give you all the glory." I want to say this to all my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ: I believe Jesus Christ is about to return, and I want to challenge you to read this book so that you may understand some of the signs that are happening at this very moment in preparation for His return. This book arranges the prophecies of the Book of Revelation chronologically so that God's prophecies will be easier to understand. My intentions are to get you to realize that the Book of Revelation shows us how great and just our God and Savior is. I truly believe that we are at the brink of the moment when we will meet Jesus in the air. That's why I felt the need to write this book. I want to mention that I saw a show on TV in which thousands of Christians from another country were all worshiping God. Our faith is global, which has made me realize that when the rapture takes place, millions of us including, Catholics, Protestants, and all those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior, will meet our King, Jesus Christ, in the air. I can't wait to be together with all of you in the presence of the One who made me - He is my hero, Jesus Christ. I want to mention one more thing, today Christians are being tested, we have seen movies like the passion of the Christ and we can read books like the Davinci code along with the movie, God is putting the ball in your court and He wants to know if you will you believe in Christ as God the Son and as your savior or will you doubt in Him? It's your decision, and I hope that after reading this book you will be able to make a clear decision in accepting Jesus as your savior and that you will believe everything that He said about Himself. Let me give you the example of the two thieves on the cross; when Jesus was crucified two thieves were crucified next to Him, they both knew that Jesus was claiming to be the Christ, but they saw that He was about to die, and so one of them said; if you are the Christ; come down, save yourself and save us, in other words; if you are really the Christ why are you on the cross? There is no way that I will believe in you or in what you say since you are about to die, and we know that the Christ is supposed to be a King who will live forever and have a kingdom that will never end. This man made the decision to reject Jesus as his Savior and he did not believe that He was the Christ. Jesus did not say a word to that man, but the other thief said; do you not fear God, we deserve death for our sins but this man has done nothing wrong, Lord, I believe that you are the Christ even though you are on a cross, I see past the circumstances and I put my faith in you, so please remember me when you come in your kingdom, in other words; when you come to be King of this earth, don't forget about me. Jesus did answer him, He said; today you will be with me in paradise. Both thieves saw the one who claimed to be the Christ, and what they saw caused doubts yet one chose not to believe while the other one believed and is now in paradise, in this life there are a lot of doubts, what decision will you chose to take? The Promise of His Return John was with the disciples in the presence of the resurrected Christ, and they asked Jesus if He was finally going to be the King of Israel Jer. 23:5-6 just as the prophets had promised. Acts \-.6-i Then, indeed, these coming together, they asked Him, saying, Lord, do You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? (the disciples asked Him If He would be King now?) And He said to them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father has put in His own authority (We notice that Jesus did not deny that He will be King of Israel, but it was not time yet). Acts i:9-n And saying these things, as they watched, He was taken up. And a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they were looking intently into the Heaven, He having gone, even behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them, who also said, Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into the Heaven? This same Jesus who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven. The disciples of Jesus Christ were eyewitnesses to His ascension on a cloud into Heaven, and they had been told that just as Jesus went up into the clouds, He would return in the clouds. They are the authors of the New Testament, and they are the ones who tell us of His glorious return in the clouds, and we are getting close to that day. There are so many verses in the New Testament that say that Jesus will come in the clouds, and we also see this in the Old Testament, such as in Dan 7:13 / saw in the night visions, and behold, One like the Son of man (Jesus) came with the clouds of Heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days (God the Father), and they brought Him near before Him. The reason He constantly talks about returning in the clouds is because He wants us to look up into Heaven in anticipation of His return, so keep your eyes on Him. He told us to be ready, to watch for His return! This also prevents us from believing in those who claim to be Jesus Christ since we are told that He will come in the clouds and every eye will see Him Rev i:7 when He comes back. That is why no one should have believed David Koresh, and no one should believe the hundreds of men who today say that they are Jesus Christ. THE PROMISE: JESUS WAS TAKEN UP IN THE CLOUDS AND-HE WILL RETURN IN THE CLOUDS I want to explain the whole verse of Revelation 1:7 Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen. We read that He will come in the clouds and "every eye will see Him" this includes those who "pierced Him" but those who pierced Christ are dead, so how is this possible? We must first learn that we all pierced Him since He died for us in our place, but this scripture is also speaking of those who rejected Him and are now dead, they will be able to see Him from hell because they are not limited to the earthly eyes which can only see within a short distance, God will allow them to see our Lord who they rejected, when He takes those Christians who trusted in Him and in His promises. As they see this event happen they will be filled with sorrow along with those on earth watching the saints rejoicing as Christ receives them and gives them white robes while those who rejected Him cannot have part in this awesome event known as the rapture that is why we read "all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him." All those who did not believe in the Word of God will realize that His promises were true but it will be too late for them. Hopefully you will not be one of those wailing but rather one of those caught up to meet Jesus in the air. 1 Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. Do not miss out on this event! The idea that someone can see far distances is not unbiblical for we see that Stephen who was on earth saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God in Heaven. Act 7:55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, looking up intently into Heaven, he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. Act 7:56 And he said, Behold, I see Heaven opened and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God. This proves that those who pierced Jesus will indeed see Him from hell when He raptures the church. Quote
Guest I Don't Know Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 "St. Jackanapes" <larry_jackowski@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2119ecfb14610b8c989714@news.alt.net... Who Do Your Books Say That I Am? New volumes tell much about our Lord--and our cultural moment. There were 17,249 books about Jesus in the Library of Congress as of 2004, and their number, as this essay attests, continues to climb. Who do people say the Son of Man is? It may well be that these thousands of pages have only intensified our longing for viva vox, the living voice. It is a voice that cuts through our misery and darkness, our pluralizing cacophony-even, yes, our screens and reams of print-with the authority and exuberance of Life itself. Amid the din of our age, we listen and we wait for the voice of life. Turning and Churning to Jesus Viva vox was actually a byword for historians in the ancient world. When given a choice, they opted for eyewitnesses over written sources. They strongly preferred relying on those whose hands had touched and ears had heard critical parts of the stories they were intent on preserving. They fought to get the story right, and so do we. That's the better part of what these Jesus books are about: The stakes, it nearly goes without saying, could hardly be higher. "If he did what he said, then it's nothing for you to do but throw away everything and follow him." So spoke Flannery O'Connor's tortured, violent Misfit in A Good Man Is Hard to Find. It's wisdom that can't be topped. Given this daunting imperative, it's fortunate that we do a lot of history these days; indeed, in some ways we in the West are more attuned to history than ever. With the post-Christian, postmodern collapse of visions of universal morality and of soaring metanarratives that explain our world to us from some authoritative vantage, we're left with mere history, with the highly particular, often idiosyncratic, mainly muddled world of everyday human experience: fraying families, oppressive principalities, the occasional sparkle of nobility and grace in some movement or person or place. As we've spun farther away from our Christian identity and framework, we've found the need, paradoxically, to reckon with our past-past foundations, past authorities, past ideals. So in these fracturing United States we turn, stomachs churning, to Jesus of Nazareth, he whom the historian Richard Wightman Fox, in his book Jesus in America (HarperSanFrancisco), calls our "single most important cultural hero." And we turn from different ways and diverging angles. Marcus Borg, for one, takes the Jesus Seminar to the masses in Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary (HarperSanFrancisco). Offering us a "Jesus we have never really met" (at least according to the dust jacket), he, Oxford-trained and -tested, warns against a "belief-centered" approach to the faith-even as he confesses his own cardinal beliefs: that "the pre-Easter Jesus was not God"; that Christ did not perform certain miracles in the Gospels because accounts of them "violate our sense of the limits of the spectacular"; that "the Bible and the Gospels (like the sacred scriptures of other religions) are human responses to the sacred," recording "not what God says, but what our spiritual ancestors said." There's not much that's original here, as Stephen Prothero makes clear in American Jesus: How the Son of God Became a National Icon (Farrar, Straus, and Giroux). In fact, many of Borg's central tenets comport nicely with the conclusions of the man Prothero deems the father of the American Jesus: Thomas Jefferson. On lonely evenings in the White House, he clipped away (literally) any hint of the supernatural from copies of the Gospels, while reverentially seeking to preserve the true identity and significance of Jesus (he called him, among other things, "the most perfect model of republicanism in the universe"). Jefferson's genealogical connection to today's Jesus Seminar, where skeptical scholars meet to cast votes on the historical authenticity of the Gospels, couldn't be clearer. "Its method is democratic, its goal is freedom, and its obsession is Jesus," Prothero notes. If Jesus and freedom have a profound, if complex, relationship, Jesus and democracy are considerably more problematic. In the hands of democrats, Jesus has taken on form after ever-expanding form. Prothero's quip is cute but discerning: The American Jesus was "born in Jefferson's White House and raised by evangelical and liberal Protestants," but then "turned his back on his Christian upbringing and struck out on his own in multi-religious America." Predictably, as scholarship rooted in traditional Christian affirmations has deepened, hundreds of books have appeared to combat the wayward turn of a people that increasingly identify themselves as "spiritual" but not "religious." The rigor of those mounting arguments is impressive, and the authors pull no rhetorical punches. In Fabricating Jesus (InterVarsity Press), Craig A. Evans, New Testament professor at Acadia Divinity College, places his scholarly bona fides against those of the Jesus Seminar and calls their errors "egregious and legion." In What Have They Done with Jesus? (HarperSanFrancisco), the prolific Ben Witherington III, professor of New Testament at Asbury Theological Seminary, continues to engage in the Jesus wars. He argues that, contra much recent scholarship, none of the textual variants of New Testament writings provide "hard evidence" that "the virginal conception, crucifixion, bodily resurrection of Jesus, or even the Trinity" were developed much later by those trying to establish what became known as orthodoxy. Beware the "scholarly consensus" so treasured by critics, these scholars warn: That consensus is founded on what Witherington dubs the "'justification by doubt' factor" and conditioned by today's skeptical-indeed, cynical-climate. In a formidable piece of scholarship, Jesus and the Eyewitnesses (Eerdmans), University of Saint Andrews historian Richard Bauckham says essentially the same thing. He meticulously rips away what he regards as specious modern conceptions of the ancient world. The eyewitnesses to the life of Christ-the living voices-"remained accessible sources and authoritative guarantors of their own testimony throughout the period between Jesus and the writing of the Gospels," he contends. He wants to dispel the still-dominant impression that there existed a "long period of creative development of the traditions before they attained written form in the Gospels." This view, he declares, is no longer defensible, and he provides a plausible account of real people living in actual communities who devoted themselves to preserving a record of truly remarkable events. Faith and Doubt "It is hard to see," says Bauckham, "how Christian faith and theology can work with a radically distrusting attitude to the Gospels." Risking opprobrium in the land of "scholarly consensus," Bauckham, Witherington, and Evans badly want this faith and theology to work. They want to permit its living voice to speak into an age cluttered with voices. Our minds addled and our hearts tethered, we listen desperately for the voice that whispers our name, that tells us who we are and what we are for, that frees us from a way of life that teaches little about life. Not surprisingly, it is a pastoral burden that drives many Jesus writers, the desire not to clear away scholarly debris so much as to recover Jesus as a touchstone-the one, the only one, capable of correcting our error and folly, of restoring our lost identity. If our understanding of Jesus is our most important measure, then much hangs on the quality of that understanding. CT managing editor Mark Galli, in Jesus Mean and Wild (Baker), reacts against contemporary conceptions of a "kind, benevolent being who knows nothing of discipline, character, or tough love." Could this image possibly square with the Gospel accounts of Christ? On pages alleged to abound with sweetness and light, Galli finds "a tornado touching down, lifting homes and businesses off their foundations, leaving only bits and pieces of the former life strewn on his path." So much for Jesus meek and mild. So much for our cheery, pluralistic faith. For his part, pastor-scholar John Piper unveils a Christ whose authority forces us to stand and salute-or weep and kneel down. "Jesus is not a tribal deity," he reminds us in What Jesus Demands from the World (Crossway). "All authority in the universe is his; all creation owes its allegiance to him." This is a Jesus who doesn't roam the pages of the Gospels-he haunts them, with an authority that hits people like an arctic blast, freezing them to a standstill, snapping their heads around. The parade of folk in Matthew 8, for example-the leprous, the infirm, the ill, a Roman officer, would-be disciples, demons, even the elements-treat him, remarkably, as if he is, indeed, the one in whom all things consist. No wonder that chapter closes with a "whole town" assembling to "plead with him to leave their region." If Piper and Galli are right, it's this voice, with an authority strangely divine and strangely human, that we outrageously free postmoderns must finally confront, whether we wish to or not. We, mere creatures who consist only in Christ, have no choice in this matter-no "freedom" to ignore Christ, whatever our national constitutions or political philosophies may proclaim. The contrast of this Christ to the Jesus of our times, the Jesus of Marcus Borg, could not be more stark. By Borg's lights, if Christ is God "it makes no sense to speak of imitating him and becoming like him," for it is a human guide that we need, one whom we stand a chance of emulating. But surely Borg has misread our deepest need. Lost in the darkness of our corruption, straining toward a light we seem to glimpse only in dreams, we cry, in blessed moments of repentance, for one strong enough to restore us to our truest creaturely shape-the shape of real freedom. Only this Christ, this divine and human Christ, can elevate the bar high enough to show us just how short we fall. Only this Christ has the strength to correct us, through the sensitized love of his own profoundly human prayers. We're talking about one whose spiritual portfolio contains far more than "an enlightened experience of the sacred"-Borg's description of Jesus' attainment. Piper's concerns about the effects of Borg's Jesus on the world are worth hearing. Having completed a doctorate in New Testament studies at the University of Munich in the 1970s, Piper wonders about Borg's world. He poignantly asks, "Who of us today can give any serious account" of the "cutting-edge reconstructions" of Jesus that were then au courant? "I estimate most of the fruit of those quests," he concludes, "to be unreliable and unusable to accomplish what Jesus aims to accomplish in this world." It's a world that has suffered immeasurably in its rejection of him and his plan, as our lives too quickly make plain. It's a world he still longs to embrace with healing, unifying, truth-telling love. And it's this vision for the world that animates CT senior writer Tim Stafford's splendid Surprised by Jesus (InterVarsity Press)-the pristine prose and striking argument of which could make it a candidate to revolutionize any number of small-group studies in churches around the nation, and, indeed, the world. Stafford pounds home the basic point that Jesus' message did not consist of "lofty truths about the nature of reality" or ruminations reflecting "the eternal present of religious consciousness." His was, instead, a call to align ourselves to "God's action in time and space." In an age bogged down, distracted, and forlorn, Stafford presents a simple and radical banner for the church to wave and enact: "Jesus is changing the world. Come and see." Most fundamentally, he writes, "Jesus came to announce and to create a renewed people under God." This long-awaited renewal-our renewal-comes only in particular, concrete, historical ways, ever reflecting, by his grace, the deep and true humanity of the Son of God, he who came eating and drinking, arguing and listening, blessing and dying. For all of his authority, "What distinguished Jesus," Stafford wryly notes, "was not his cosmopolitan outlook." He was a man of the people. He was a man for the people. He is the living voice, who to the weary and heavy-laden says gently, "Come." Eric Miller is associate professor of history at Geneva College. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Related Elsewhere: Jesus in America, Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary, Fabricating Jesus, What Have They Done with Jesus?, American Jesus: How the Son of God Became a National Icon, Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony, and Jesus Mean and Wild: The Unexpected Love of an Untamable God are available from ChristianBook.com, Amazon.com, and other retailers. Jesus and the Eyewitnesses and Jesus Mean and Wild were honored in Christianity Today's 2007 book awards. Articles about the books mentioned above include: They Really Saw Him | Richard Bauckham argues that the Gospels are based on eyewitness testimony, not "anonymous community traditions." The key, he says, is in the names. (June 7, 2007) The Early Church on Jesus | Ben Witherington offers a potpourri of thoughts about early Christian belief. (February 14, 2007) A Practical Understanding of Jesus' Life | Tim Stafford interprets Jesus' life for a new generation in Surprised by Jesus. (November 10, 2006) Excerpt: Jesus Mean and Wild: The Unexpected Love of an Untamable God | Apparently 'satanic' can be a synonym for 'relevant'. (July 1, 2006) Crash-Helmet Christianity | Talking about the real Jesus is a dangerous thing. A Christianity Today editorial (April 1, 2004) Behold the Man | A review of Stephen Prothero's American Jesus. (January 1, 2004) Christian History & Biography's issues on the Jesus include The Life & Times of Jesus of Nazareth and The Search For Biblical Jesus. Other articles and reviews of books about the historical Jesus include: Jesus Out of Focus | The Da Vinci Code is raising issues that go to the heart of the Christian faith-and it's starting to confuse us all. (June 1, 2006) Breaking The Da Vinci Code | So the divine Jesus and infallible Word emerged out of a fourth-century power-play? Get real. (Nov. 07, 2003) Thanks, Da Vinci Code | Tbe book sends us back to Christianity's "founding fathers"-and the Bible we share with them (Nov. 14, 2003) Jesus' Sword | Longing for peace in tumultuous times. (May 07, 2003) Leading with Conclusions | Much of Jesus scholarship is about neither the historical Jesus nor good scholarship. (April 29, 2002) The Jesus Scandal | The church has a long history of discomfort with Christ. (Feb. 19, 2002) Historical Hogwash | Two books-one new, one newly reissued-debunk false claims about the "real" Jesus. (July 13, 2001) Lights, Camera, Jesus | Hollywood looks at itself in the mirror of the Messiah. (May 12, 2000) Desperately Seeking Jesus | A review of "The Epic Miniseries" (May 12, 2000) No More Hollow Jesus | In focusing so intently on Jesus the man, Peter Jennings' report missed the big picture. (July 3, 2000) Jennings on Jesus | ABC anchorman Peter Jennings discusses what moved him as he filmed a special on the life of Christ. (June 26, 2000) Quote
Guest Avoid normal situations. Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 In alt.flame Father Haskell <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 31, 11:24 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote: [..] > The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. I hate racists. plonk -- Save Internet Radio http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541 -- alt.flame Special Forces "When art critics get together they talk about Form and Structure and Meaning. When artists get together they talk about where you can buy cheap turpentine." -- Pablo Picasso Quote
Guest Avoid normal situations. Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 In alt.flame Irv Hyatt <irvhyatt@ca.rr.com> wrote: > "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1185940144.180145.144910@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... [..] >> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > I'm not sure what they eat but they just reek of putrid day old garlic and > fish, especially when you get stuck in the elevator with them. Damn! Pass > 'em a Breath Assure. How could they NOT know how bad they stink? HOW I ASK > YOU? LOL FucKKKhead. plonk -- Save Internet Radio http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541 -- alt.flame Special Forces "When art critics get together they talk about Form and Structure and Meaning. When artists get together they talk about where you can buy cheap turpentine." -- Pablo Picasso Quote
Guest Irv Hyatt Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 "Avoid normal situations." <byend.removethisbityousillyperson@eskimo.com> wrote in message news:5hkvmhF3kkoeaU2@mid.individual.net... > In alt.flame Irv Hyatt <irvhyatt@ca.rr.com> wrote: >> "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1185940144.180145.144910@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > [..] > >>> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > >> I'm not sure what they eat but they just reek of putrid day old garlic >> and >> fish, especially when you get stuck in the elevator with them. Damn! >> Pass >> 'em a Breath Assure. How could they NOT know how bad they stink? HOW I >> ASK >> YOU? LOL > > FucKKKhead. > > plonk Guess you haven't lived in close quarters with them on a daily basis. > > -- > Save Internet Radio > http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541 > -- > alt.flame Special Forces > "When art critics get together they talk about Form and Structure and > Meaning. > When artists get together they talk about where you can buy cheap > turpentine." > -- Pablo Picasso Quote
Guest Irv Hyatt Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 "Avoid normal situations." <byend.removethisbityousillyperson@eskimo.com> wrote in message news:5hkvivF3kkoeaU1@mid.individual.net... > In alt.flame Father Haskell <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jul 31, 11:24 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > [..] > >> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > > I hate racists. > > plonk I hate people who avoid the obvious because they might sound racist. > > -- > Save Internet Radio > http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541 > -- > alt.flame Special Forces > "When art critics get together they talk about Form and Structure and > Meaning. > When artists get together they talk about where you can buy cheap > turpentine." > -- Pablo Picasso Quote
Guest St. Jackanapes Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Avoid normal situations. held us spellbound with... > In alt.flame Irv Hyatt <irvhyatt@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > "Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1185940144.180145.144910@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > [..] > > >> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > > > I'm not sure what they eat but they just reek of putrid day old garlic and > > fish, especially when you get stuck in the elevator with them. Damn! Pass > > 'em a Breath Assure. How could they NOT know how bad they stink? HOW I ASK > > YOU? LOL > > FucKKKhead. > > plonk What a complete and ignorant narf! He jumps into a flame group thread, gets all PC about the content, and begins plonking. Idiot. -- St. Jackanapes http://www.jackanapes.ws ============================ Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 On Aug 5, 4:26 am, St. Jackanapes <larry_jackow...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Avoid normal situations. held us spellbound with... > > > > > In alt.flame Irv Hyatt <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > > "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:1185940144.180145.144910@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > > [..] > > > >> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > > > > I'm not sure what they eat but they just reek of putrid day old garlic and > > > fish, especially when you get stuck in the elevator with them. Damn! Pass > > > 'em a Breath Assure. How could they NOT know how bad they stink? HOW I ASK > > > YOU? LOL > > > FucKKKhead. > > > plonk > > What a complete and ignorant narf! He jumps into a flame group thread, > gets all PC about the content, and begins plonking. Idiot. Hell, if I had anything against the Koreans, I'd never have spent a sum total of $500 at the local massage parlor. Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 On Aug 5, 2:56 am, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > "Avoid normal situations." <byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> > wrote in messagenews:5hkvivF3kkoeaU1@mid.individual.net... > > > In alt.flame Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On Jul 31, 11:24 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > [..] > > >> The prospect that you might be part Korean should scare YOU. > > > I hate racists. > > > plonk > > I hate people who avoid the obvious because they might sound racist. His hobbies probably include petitioning the local school board to remove Mark Twain. Quote
Guest Richard Catto Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Father Haskell wrote: > On Aug 5, 2:56 am, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > I hate people who avoid the obvious because they might sound racist. > His hobbies probably include petitioning the local school board > to remove Mark Twain. Mark Twain hated Jewbies. Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 On Aug 5, 1:50 pm, Richard Catto <rrca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Father Haskell wrote: > > On Aug 5, 2:56 am, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhy...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > > I hate people who avoid the obvious because they might sound racist. > > His hobbies probably include petitioning the local school board > > to remove Mark Twain. > > Mark Twain hated Jewbies. His real name was Sam Clemens. Sounds half jewish to me. Quote
Guest M Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:08:03 -0000, Richard Catto <rrcatto@gmail.com> wrote: >M Quote
Guest M Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 02:03:08 -0400, Holly Cost <holly@spamnomore.com> wrote: >M Quote
Guest M Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 02:03:09 -0400, Holly Cost <holly@spamnomore.com> wrote: > >M Quote
Guest M Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 02:06:19 -0400, Holly Cost <holly@spamnomore.com> wrote: >M Quote
Guest The 2-Belo Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Father Haskell died this morning at 6:25 after a lengthy bout of alt.flame. The will states: >Hell, if I had anything against the Koreans, I'd never have spent >a sum total of $500 at the local massage parlor. ....he said, admitting that the only way he could possibly get within a hundred yards of a vagina is through financial compensation. -- The 2-Belo [the2beloATmsdDOTbiglobeDOTneDOTjp] All-Seeing All-Knowing Glorious Emperor for Life, Meow [Ret.] The alt.fan.karl-malden.nose Webcenter Museum: http://www.godhatesjanks.org/webcenter/ auk: Hammer of Thor by Special Decree 1999 aavf3: mhm21x20 Top Usenet Asshole #16 Lits Slut #4 "I ask for 'fal tor pan'! The restore from backup!" Quote
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