Three more American lives wasted in bush,jr's fiasco: U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

August 3, 2007

In article <5gxsi.3363$2v5.2110@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,

"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:

> > In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>

> >>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> August 2, 2007

> >>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >>>>

> >>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

> >>>> military have died...

> >>>

> >>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >>

> >> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >

> > Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American lives

> > lost in those fiascos.

>

> You'll do anything,

> say anything to distract and

> divert from the disaster for

> America that bush,jr created in Iraq

You couldn't answer the question, eh?

August 3, 2007

Harold Burton wrote:

> In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>

>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>

>>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>August 2, 2007

>>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>

>>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S. military

>>>>>>have died...

>>>>>

>>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow Wilson,

>>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>

>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>>

>>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American lives

>>>lost in those fiascos.

>>

>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his predecessor

>>was the democrat FDR.

>>

>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA level

>>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000, 33,000?

>>

>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves left to

>>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far is $450

>>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off into

>>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One Trillion

>>dollars.

>>

>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a fiasco?

>>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

>

> You didn't answer my question.

You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue at hand.

But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no answers,

then a diversion it is.

I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been fiascos, I

think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have been

uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war has

misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection of them.

So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

And your anwswer is but Woodrow Wilson...

Jeff

August 3, 2007

In article <f8vgtk$9jf$1@news.albasani.net>,

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-4E0D1D.23070402082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > In article <1186109638.920376.80850@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

> > BushRuinsTheWorldandtheUSA <bongblaster54@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >> On Aug 2, 7:48 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> > In article <dSvsi.762$zp5....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >

> >> > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> > > August 2, 2007

> >> > > U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> > > By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> > > Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >

> >> > > As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

> >> > > U.S. military

> >> > > have died...

> >> >

> >> > Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >> > Wilson,

> >> > Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >

> >> > <snicker>

> >>

> >> YEP IS SURE BEATS THE RECORDS THAT BUSH IS SETTING...

> >

> > That was my point. Funny how you seem to have no problem with the

> > orders of magnitude greater American deaths brought to you by

> > DemocRATs

> > Wilson, Truman and Johnson.

>

> Different day, same old irrelevant strawmen.

You wish.

August 3, 2007

In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:

>

> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >

> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >>

> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

> >>>>>>military

> >>>>>>have died...

> >>>>>

> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow Wilson,

> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >>>>

> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >>>

> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American lives

> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >>

> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his predecessor

> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >>

> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA level

> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000, 33,000?

> >>

> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves left to

> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far is $450

> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off into

> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One Trillion

> >>dollars.

> >>

> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a fiasco?

> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

> >

> > You didn't answer my question.

>

> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue at hand.

>

> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no answers,

> then a diversion it is.

>

> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been fiascos, I

> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have been

> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war has

> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection of them.

>

> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

August 3, 2007

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:hal.i.burton-4C232F.12395103082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> In article <f8vgtk$9jf$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>

>> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:hal.i.burton-4E0D1D.23070402082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>> > In article <1186109638.920376.80850@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

>> > BushRuinsTheWorldandtheUSA <bongblaster54@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> On Aug 2, 7:48 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >> > In article <dSvsi.762$zp5....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >> >

>> >> > "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >> > > August 2, 2007

>> >> > > U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >> > > By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >> > > Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >> >

>> >> > > As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>> >> > > U.S. military

>> >> > > have died...

>> >> >

>> >> > Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>> >> > Wilson,

>> >> > Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >> >

>> >> > <snicker>

>> >>

>> >> YEP IS SURE BEATS THE RECORDS THAT BUSH IS SETTING...

>> >

>> > That was my point. Funny how you seem to have no problem with the

>> > orders of magnitude greater American deaths brought to you by

>> > DemocRATs

>> > Wilson, Truman and Johnson.

>>

>> Different day, same old irrelevant strawmen.

>

> You wish.

The last resort of bush,jr defenders: Wilson, Truman, Johnson...and above

all Clinton,Clinton,Clinton,Clinton,Clinton,

August 3, 2007

Harold Burton wrote:

> In article <byDsi.881$zp5.459@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

>>> news:5gxsi.3363$2v5.2110@bignews2.bellsouth.net...

>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> August 2, 2007

>>>>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>>>>>>>> U.S. military have died...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>>>>>>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>>>>

>>>>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>>>>> lives lost in those fiascos.

>>>>

>>>> You'll do anything,

>>>> say anything to distract and

>>>> divert from the disaster for

>>>> America that bush,jr created in Iraq

>>> So would you in my position.

>>

>> Your position: Beaten bloody about the head by defending bush,jr

>> failures every day.

>

> Ah, the idiot Sid9 has been fooled by a cheap substitute.

The last gasp of a bush,jr Republican defender

August 3, 2007

Harold Burton wrote:

> In article <5gxsi.3363$2v5.2110@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,

> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>

>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> August 2, 2007

>>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

>>>>>> military have died...

>>>>>

>>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>>>>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>

>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>>

>>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>>> lives lost in those fiascos.

>>

>> You'll do anything,

>> say anything to distract and

>> divert from the disaster for

>> America that bush,jr created in Iraq

>

> You couldn't answer the question, eh?

Totally irrelevant smokescreen to avoid reality...the bush,jr Republican

debacle

August 3, 2007

Harold Burton wrote:

> In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>

>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>

>>> In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> August 2, 2007

>>>>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>>>>>>>> U.S. military

>>>>>>>> have died...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>>>>>>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>>>>

>>>>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>>>>> lives lost in those fiascos.

>>>>

>>>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>>>> predecessor was the democrat FDR.

>>>>

>>>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA

>>>> level at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>>>> 10,000, 33,000?

>>>>

>>>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

>>>> left to engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war

>>>> so far is $450 billion dollars, this does not include such costs

>>>> as equipment repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

>>>> pushed off into the future. The final total will probably be in

>>>> excess of One Trillion dollars.

>>>>

>>>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>>>> fiasco? But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

>>>> War I!

>>>

>>> You didn't answer my question.

>>

>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

>> at hand.

>>

>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>> answers, then a diversion it is.

>>

>> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>> fiascos, I think some would have been best avoided but I don't think

>> any have been uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this

>> war. Every war has misjudgements, no other war has been an almost

>> exclusive collection of them.

>>

>> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>

> If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

> fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

Another last gasp of the sinking bush,jr Republican ship

August 3, 2007

Sid9 wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:

>

>>In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>>Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>

>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>>

>>>>In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>>>>Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>August 2, 2007

>>>>>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>>>>>>>>>U.S. military

>>>>>>>>>have died...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>>>>>>>>Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>>>>>>lives lost in those fiascos.

>>>>>

>>>>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>>>>>predecessor was the democrat FDR.

>>>>>

>>>>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA

>>>>>level at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>>>>>10,000, 33,000?

>>>>>

>>>>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

>>>>>left to engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war

>>>>>so far is $450 billion dollars, this does not include such costs

>>>>>as equipment repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

>>>>>pushed off into the future. The final total will probably be in

>>>>>excess of One Trillion dollars.

>>>>>

>>>>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>>>>>fiasco? But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

>>>>>War I!

>>>>

>>>>You didn't answer my question.

>>>

>>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

>>>at hand.

>>>

>>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>>>answers, then a diversion it is.

>>>

>>>I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>>>fiascos, I think some would have been best avoided but I don't think

>>>any have been uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this

>>>war. Every war has misjudgements, no other war has been an almost

>>>exclusive collection of them.

>>>

>>>So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>>

>>If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

>>fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>

> Another last gasp of the sinking bush,jr Republican ship

>

He ranks fiascos by the number of dead. So the fiasco is growing in

Iraq but has years to go before it reaches the fiasco level of WWII.

Well, then we know he must consider Bill Clintons Kosovo War a huge

success as there was not a single loss.

Jeff

August 3, 2007

In article <A_Isi.1178$gM5.742@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,

"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> The last resort of bush,jr defenders...

You're very confused, no one's defending Bush, Jr.

August 3, 2007

In article <C1Jsi.1184$gM5.525@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,

"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:

> > In article <5gxsi.3363$2v5.2110@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,

> > "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >

> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> August 2, 2007

> >>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

> >>>>>> military have died...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >>>>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >>>>

> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >>>

> >>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

> >>> lives lost in those fiascos.

> >>

> >> You'll do anything,

> >> say anything to distract and

> >> divert from the disaster for

> >> America that bush,jr created in Iraq

> >

> > You couldn't answer the question, eh?

>

> Totally irrelevant smokescreen to avoid reality...the bush,jr Republican

> debacle

You couldn't answer the question, eh?

August 3, 2007

In article <z2Jsi.1186$gM5.777@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,

"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Harold Burton wrote:

> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>

> >>> In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >>>>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> August 2, 2007

> >>>>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >>>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >>>>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

> >>>>>>>> U.S. military

> >>>>>>>> have died...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >>>>>>> Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

> >>>>> lives lost in those fiascos.

> >>>>

> >>>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >>>> predecessor was the democrat FDR.

> >>>>

> >>>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA

> >>>> level at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

> >>>> 10,000, 33,000?

> >>>>

> >>>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

> >>>> left to engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war

> >>>> so far is $450 billion dollars, this does not include such costs

> >>>> as equipment repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

> >>>> pushed off into the future. The final total will probably be in

> >>>> excess of One Trillion dollars.

> >>>>

> >>>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

> >>>> fiasco? But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

> >>>> War I!

> >>>

> >>> You didn't answer my question.

> >>

> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

> >> at hand.

> >>

> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

> >> answers, then a diversion it is.

> >>

> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >> fiascos, I think some would have been best avoided but I don't think

> >> any have been uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this

> >> war. Every war has misjudgements, no other war has been an almost

> >> exclusive collection of them.

> >>

> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >

> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>

> Another last gasp of the sinking bush,jr Republican ship

It seems to leave you stumped.

August 3, 2007

In article <13b6ocpmm8v23ed@corp.supernews.com>,

Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> Sid9 wrote:

>

> > Harold Burton wrote:

> >

> >>In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>

> >>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >>>>>>Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >>>>>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >>>>>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >>>>>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >>>>>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

> >>>>>>>>>U.S. military

> >>>>>>>>>have died...

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >>>>>>>>Wilson, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

> >>>>>>lives lost in those fiascos.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >>>>>predecessor was the democrat FDR.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA

> >>>>>level at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

> >>>>>10,000, 33,000?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

> >>>>>left to engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war

> >>>>>so far is $450 billion dollars, this does not include such costs

> >>>>>as equipment repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

> >>>>>pushed off into the future. The final total will probably be in

> >>>>>excess of One Trillion dollars.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

> >>>>>fiasco? But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

> >>>>>War I!

> >>>>

> >>>>You didn't answer my question.

> >>>

> >>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

> >>>at hand.

> >>>

> >>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

> >>>answers, then a diversion it is.

> >>>

> >>>I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >>>fiascos, I think some would have been best avoided but I don't think

> >>>any have been uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this

> >>>war. Every war has misjudgements, no other war has been an almost

> >>>exclusive collection of them.

> >>>

> >>>So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >>

> >>If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

> >>fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

> >

> > Another last gasp of the sinking bush,jr Republican ship

> >

> He ranks fiascos by the number of dead. So the fiasco is growing in

> Iraq but has years to go before it reaches the fiasco level of WWII.

>

> Well, then we know he must consider Bill Clintons Kosovo War a huge

> success as there was not a single loss.

Wrong.

August 3, 2007

In article <hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,

hal.i.burton@hotmail.com says...

>

>In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>

>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>

>> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >

>> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>>>

>> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

>> >>>>>>military

>> >>>>>>have died...

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow Wilson,

>> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>> >>>

>> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American lives

>> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>> >>

>> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his predecessor

>> >>was the democrat FDR.

>> >>

>> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA level

>> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000, 33,000?

>> >>

>> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves left to

>> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far is $450

>> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off into

>> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One Trillion

>> >>dollars.

>> >>

>> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a fiasco?

>> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

>> >

>> > You didn't answer my question.

>>

>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue at hand.

>>

>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no answers,

>> then a diversion it is.

>>

>> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been fiascos, I

>> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have been

>> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war has

>> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection of

them.

>>

>> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>

>If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

>fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

Sheesh! At least get your history straight. Wilson did not start WWI. The

Korean War was a UN "Police Acrion." Johnson did not strta the Vietnam War.

Eisenhower did, Johnson escalated it and Nixon waged it and enlraged it for

five more years. Every death matters, but not to you it seems.

August 3, 2007

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>

>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>

>> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >

>> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>>>

>> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>> >>>>>>U.S.

>> >>>>>>military

>> >>>>>>have died...

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>> >>>>>Wilson,

>> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>> >>>

>> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>> >>>lives

>> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>> >>

>> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>> >> predecessor

>> >>was the democrat FDR.

>> >>

>> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

>> >> KIA level

>> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000,

>> >>33,000?

>> >>

>> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

>> >> left to

>> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far

>> >>is $450

>> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off

>> >>into

>> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

>> >>Trillion

>> >>dollars.

>> >>

>> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>> >> fiasco?

>> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

>> >

>> > You didn't answer my question.

>>

>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

>> at hand.

>>

>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>> answers,

>> then a diversion it is.

>>

>> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>> fiascos, I

>> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have

>> been

>> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war

>> has

>> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection

>> of them.

>>

>> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>

> If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than

> the

> fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

courtesy of RepubLICKans.

August 3, 2007

In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>

> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

> >> >>>>>>U.S.

> >> >>>>>>military

> >> >>>>>>have died...

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >> >>>>>Wilson,

> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >> >>>

> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

> >> >>>lives

> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >> >>

> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >> >> predecessor

> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >> >>

> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

> >> >> KIA level

> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000,

> >> >>33,000?

> >> >>

> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

> >> >> left to

> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far

> >> >>is $450

> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off

> >> >>into

> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

> >> >>Trillion

> >> >>dollars.

> >> >>

> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

> >> >> fiasco?

> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

> >> >

> >> > You didn't answer my question.

> >>

> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue

> >> at hand.

> >>

> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

> >> answers,

> >> then a diversion it is.

> >>

> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >> fiascos, I

> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have

> >> been

> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war

> >> has

> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection

> >> of them.

> >>

> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >

> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than

> > the

> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>

> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan was the

worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only 418,000

American deaths.

August 3, 2007

In article <sN2dnVzJXrBI-y7bnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@bway.net>,

Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu.ie> wrote:

> In article <hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,

> hal.i.burton@hotmail.com says...

> >

> >In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >

> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >>

> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the U.S.

> >> >>>>>>military

> >> >>>>>>have died...

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

> >> >>>>>Wilson,

> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

> >> >>>

> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American lives

> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >> >>

> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his predecessor

> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >> >>

> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA level

> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000, 33,000?

> >> >>

> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves left to

> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far is $450

> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off into

> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One Trillion

> >> >>dollars.

> >> >>

> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a fiasco?

> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

> >> >

> >> > You didn't answer my question.

> >>

> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue at

> >> hand.

> >>

> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no answers,

> >> then a diversion it is.

> >>

> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been fiascos, I

> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have been

> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war has

> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection of

> them.

> >>

> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >

> >If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

> >fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>

> Sheesh! At least get your history straight. Wilson did not start WWI.

He the one who got us into it. Care to explain why it was so important

for us to get into a European struggle at a cost of 117,000 American

lives?

August 3, 2007

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:hal.i.burton-74022D.14405803082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>

>> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

>> >> >>>>>>the

>> >> >>>>>>U.S.

>> >> >>>>>>military

>> >> >>>>>>have died...

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

>> >> >>>>>Woodrow

>> >> >>>>>Wilson,

>> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

>> >> >>>> Vietnam?

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

>> >> >>>American

>> >> >>>lives

>> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>> >> >> predecessor

>> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

>> >> >> KIA level

>> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>> >> >>10,000,

>> >> >>33,000?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

>> >> >> reserves

>> >> >> left to

>> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

>> >> >>far

>> >> >>is $450

>> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed

>> >> >>off

>> >> >>into

>> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

>> >> >>Trillion

>> >> >>dollars.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>> >> >> fiasco?

>> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War

>> >> >>I!

>> >> >

>> >> > You didn't answer my question.

>> >>

>> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

>> >> issue

>> >> at hand.

>> >>

>> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>> >> answers,

>> >> then a diversion it is.

>> >>

>> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>> >> fiascos, I

>> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

>> >> have

>> >> been

>> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every

>> >> war

>> >> has

>> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

>> >> collection

>> >> of them.

>> >>

>> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>> >

>> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller

>> > than

>> > the

>> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>>

>> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

>> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

>

> No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan was

> the

> worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only

> 418,000

> American deaths.

lol

Google "worst foreign policy blunder" and get back to us.

August 3, 2007

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:hal.i.burton-6A06FC.14425503082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> In article <sN2dnVzJXrBI-y7bnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@bway.net>,

> Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu.ie> wrote:

>

>> In article

>> <hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,

>> hal.i.burton@hotmail.com says...

>> >

>> >In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >

>> >> Harold Burton wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

>> >> >>>>>>the U.S.

>> >> >>>>>>military

>> >> >>>>>>have died...

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

>> >> >>>>>Woodrow

>> >> >>>>>Wilson,

>> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

>> >> >>>> Vietnam?

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

>> >> >>>American lives

>> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>> >> >> predecessor

>> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

>> >> >> KIA level

>> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>> >> >>10,000, 33,000?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

>> >> >> reserves left to

>> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

>> >> >>far is $450

>> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed

>> >> >>off into

>> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

>> >> >>Trillion

>> >> >>dollars.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>> >> >> fiasco?

>> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War

>> >> >>I!

>> >> >

>> >> > You didn't answer my question.

>> >>

>> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

>> >> issue at

>> >> hand.

>> >>

>> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>> >> answers,

>> >> then a diversion it is.

>> >>

>> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>> >> fiascos, I

>> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

>> >> have been

>> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every

>> >> war has

>> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

>> >> collection of

>> them.

>> >>

>> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>> >

>> >If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than

>> >the

>> >fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>>

>> Sheesh! At least get your history straight. Wilson did not start

>> WWI.

>

> He the one who got us into it. Care to explain why it was so

> important

> for us to get into a European struggle at a cost of 117,000 American

> lives?

Perhaps it had to do with Germans sinking our merchant ships. Or

maybe it had to do with a German proposal to Mexico to join the war as

Germany's ally against us. Small shit like that.

August 3, 2007

In article <f8vt65$o9p$1@news.albasani.net>,

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-74022D.14405803082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

> > "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> >

> >> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> >> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >> >>>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

> >> >> >>>>>>the

> >> >> >>>>>>U.S.

> >> >> >>>>>>military

> >> >> >>>>>>have died...

> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

> >> >> >>>>>Woodrow

> >> >> >>>>>Wilson,

> >> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

> >> >> >>>> Vietnam?

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

> >> >> >>>American

> >> >> >>>lives

> >> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >> >> >> predecessor

> >> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

> >> >> >> KIA level

> >> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

> >> >> >>10,000,

> >> >> >>33,000?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

> >> >> >> reserves

> >> >> >> left to

> >> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

> >> >> >>far

> >> >> >>is $450

> >> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

> >> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed

> >> >> >>off

> >> >> >>into

> >> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

> >> >> >>Trillion

> >> >> >>dollars.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

> >> >> >> fiasco?

> >> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War

> >> >> >>I!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You didn't answer my question.

> >> >>

> >> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

> >> >> issue

> >> >> at hand.

> >> >>

> >> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

> >> >> answers,

> >> >> then a diversion it is.

> >> >>

> >> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >> >> fiascos, I

> >> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

> >> >> have

> >> >> been

> >> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every

> >> >> war

> >> >> has

> >> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

> >> >> collection

> >> >> of them.

> >> >>

> >> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >> >

> >> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller

> >> > than

> >> > the

> >> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

> >>

> >> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

> >> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

> >

> > No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan was

> > the

> > worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only

> > 418,000

> > American deaths.

>

> lol

>

> Google "worst foreign policy blunder"...

That's how I found

Freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

or entering WWI

or joining the UN.

> ... and get back to us.

I just did.

August 3, 2007

In article <f8vtdi$p4h$1@news.albasani.net>,

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-6A06FC.14425503082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > In article <sN2dnVzJXrBI-y7bnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@bway.net>,

> > Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu.ie> wrote:

> >

> >> In article

> >> <hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,

> >> hal.i.burton@hotmail.com says...

> >> >

> >> >In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >> >>>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

> >> >> >>>>>>the U.S.

> >> >> >>>>>>military

> >> >> >>>>>>have died...

> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

> >> >> >>>>>Woodrow

> >> >> >>>>>Wilson,

> >> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

> >> >> >>>> Vietnam?

> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

> >> >> >>>American lives

> >> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >> >> >> predecessor

> >> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

> >> >> >> KIA level

> >> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

> >> >> >>10,000, 33,000?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

> >> >> >> reserves left to

> >> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

> >> >> >>far is $450

> >> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

> >> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed

> >> >> >>off into

> >> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

> >> >> >>Trillion

> >> >> >>dollars.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

> >> >> >> fiasco?

> >> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War

> >> >> >>I!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > You didn't answer my question.

> >> >>

> >> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

> >> >> issue at

> >> >> hand.

> >> >>

> >> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

> >> >> answers,

> >> >> then a diversion it is.

> >> >>

> >> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >> >> fiascos, I

> >> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

> >> >> have been

> >> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every

> >> >> war has

> >> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

> >> >> collection of

> >> them.

> >> >>

> >> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >> >

> >> >If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than

> >> >the

> >> >fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

> >>

> >> Sheesh! At least get your history straight. Wilson did not start

> >> WWI.

> >

> > He the one who got us into it. Care to explain why it was so

> > important

> > for us to get into a European struggle at a cost of 117,000 American

> > lives?

>

> Perhaps it had to do with Germans sinking our merchant ships....

....which were carrying arms to the Entente Powers, in violation of our

alleged neutrality.

> Or

> maybe it had to do with a German proposal to Mexico to join the war as

> Germany's ally against us.

....which was a non-starter as everyone with any smarts knew.

> Small shit like that.

Exactly, sure worth every one of those 117,000 American deaths.

August 3, 2007

"Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:hal.i.burton-B946C0.15070303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> In article <f8vt65$o9p$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>

>> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:hal.i.burton-74022D.14405803082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>> > In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

>> > "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>> >> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>> >> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>> >> >> >>>>

>> >> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> >> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> >> >> >>>>>

>> >> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>> >> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>> >> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>> >> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>> >> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

>> >> >> >>>>>>the

>> >> >> >>>>>>U.S.

>> >> >> >>>>>>military

>> >> >> >>>>>>have died...

>> >> >> >>>>>

>> >> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

>> >> >> >>>>>Woodrow

>> >> >> >>>>>Wilson,

>> >> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>> >> >> >>>>

>> >> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

>> >> >> >>>> Vietnam?

>> >> >> >>>

>> >> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

>> >> >> >>>American

>> >> >> >>>lives

>> >> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>> >> >> >> predecessor

>> >> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is

>> >> >> >> there a

>> >> >> >> KIA level

>> >> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>> >> >> >>10,000,

>> >> >> >>33,000?

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

>> >> >> >> reserves

>> >> >> >> left to

>> >> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

>> >> >> >>far

>> >> >> >>is $450

>> >> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as

>> >> >> >>equipment

>> >> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

>> >> >> >>pushed

>> >> >> >>off

>> >> >> >>into

>> >> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of

>> >> >> >>One

>> >> >> >>Trillion

>> >> >> >>dollars.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has

>> >> >> >> been a

>> >> >> >> fiasco?

>> >> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

>> >> >> >>War

>> >> >> >>I!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > You didn't answer my question.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

>> >> >> issue

>> >> >> at hand.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have

>> >> >> no

>> >> >> answers,

>> >> >> then a diversion it is.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>> >> >> fiascos, I

>> >> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

>> >> >> have

>> >> >> been

>> >> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war.

>> >> >> Every

>> >> >> war

>> >> >> has

>> >> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

>> >> >> collection

>> >> >> of them.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>> >> >

>> >> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller

>> >> > than

>> >> > the

>> >> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and

>> >> > Johnson.

>> >>

>> >> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

>> >> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

>> >

>> > No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

>> > was

>> > the

>> > worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only

>> > 418,000

>> > American deaths.

>>

>> lol

>>

>> Google "worst foreign policy blunder"...

>

> That's how I found

>

> Freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

>

> or entering WWI

>

> or joining the UN.

>

>> ... and get back to us.

>

> I just did.

You must have just overlooked the 600,000 references to Iraq.

August 3, 2007

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote in message

news:f8vtdi$p4h$1@news.albasani.net...

>

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-6A06FC.14425503082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>> In article <sN2dnVzJXrBI-y7bnZ2dnUVZ_vXinZ2d@bway.net>,

>> Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu.ie> wrote:

>>

>>> In article

>>> <hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,

>>> hal.i.burton@hotmail.com says...

>>> >

>>> >In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Harold Burton wrote:

>>> >>

>>> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>> >> >

>>> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>> >> >>>

>>> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

>>> >> >>>>

>>> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>> >> >>>>>

>>> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

>>> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>> >> >>>>>>

>>> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of the

>>> >> >>>>>>U.S.

>>> >> >>>>>>military

>>> >> >>>>>>have died...

>>> >> >>>>>

>>> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs Woodrow

>>> >> >>>>>Wilson,

>>> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>> >> >>>>

>>> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and Vietnam?

>>> >> >>>

>>> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those American

>>> >> >>>lives

>>> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>>> >> >> predecessor

>>> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a KIA

>>> >> >> level

>>> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000, 10,000,

>>> >> >>33,000?

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no reserves

>>> >> >> left to

>>> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so far is

>>> >> >>$450

>>> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>>> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed off

>>> >> >>into

>>> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

>>> >> >>Trillion

>>> >> >>dollars.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>>> >> >> fiasco?

>>> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War I!

>>> >> >

>>> >> > You didn't answer my question.

>>> >>

>>> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the issue at

>>> >> hand.

>>> >>

>>> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>>> >> answers,

>>> >> then a diversion it is.

>>> >>

>>> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been fiascos,

>>> >> I

>>> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any have

>>> >> been

>>> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every war

>>> >> has

>>> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive collection

>>> >> of

>>> them.

>>> >>

>>> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>>> >

>>> >If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller than the

>>> >fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>>>

>>> Sheesh! At least get your history straight. Wilson did not start WWI.

>>

>> He the one who got us into it. Care to explain why it was so important

>> for us to get into a European struggle at a cost of 117,000 American

>> lives?

>

> Perhaps it had to do with Germans sinking our merchant ships. Or maybe it

> had to do with a German proposal to Mexico to join the war as Germany's

> ally against us. Small shit like that.

>

You're letting him succeed

in changing the subject away

from loser bush,jr /Cheney/ Gonzales/ Republican

failed government in both

domestic and foreign policy.

August 3, 2007

Harold Burton wrote:

> In article <f8vt65$o9p$1@news.albasani.net>,

> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>

>> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:hal.i.burton-74022D.14405803082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>>> In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

>>> "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

>>>>> In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

>>>>>>>>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Harold Burton wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>>>>>>>>>>> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> August 2, 2007

>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

>>>>>>>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

>>>>>>>>>>>> Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S.

>>>>>>>>>>>> military

>>>>>>>>>>>> have died...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

>>>>>>>>>>> Woodrow

>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson,

>>>>>>>>>>> Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

>>>>>>>>>> Vietnam?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

>>>>>>>>> American

>>>>>>>>> lives

>>>>>>>>> lost in those fiascos.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

>>>>>>>> predecessor

>>>>>>>> was the democrat FDR.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is there a

>>>>>>>> KIA level

>>>>>>>> at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

>>>>>>>> 10,000,

>>>>>>>> 33,000?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

>>>>>>>> reserves

>>>>>>>> left to

>>>>>>>> engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

>>>>>>>> far

>>>>>>>> is $450

>>>>>>>> billion dollars, this does not include such costs as equipment

>>>>>>>> repair/replacement and other expenses which have been pushed

>>>>>>>> off

>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>> the future. The final total will probably be in excess of One

>>>>>>>> Trillion

>>>>>>>> dollars.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has been a

>>>>>>>> fiasco?

>>>>>>>> But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World War

>>>>>>>> I!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You didn't answer my question.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

>>>>>> issue

>>>>>> at hand.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have no

>>>>>> answers,

>>>>>> then a diversion it is.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

>>>>>> fiascos, I

>>>>>> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> been

>>>>>> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war. Every

>>>>>> war

>>>>>> has

>>>>>> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

>>>>>> collection

>>>>>> of them.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

>>>>>

>>>>> If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller

>>>>> than

>>>>> the

>>>>> fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and Johnson.

>>>>

>>>> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

>>>> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

>>>

>>> No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan was

>>> the

>>> worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only

>>> 418,000

>>> American deaths.

>>

>> lol

>>

>> Google "worst foreign policy blunder"...

>

> That's how I found

>

> Freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

>

> or entering WWI

>

> or joining the UN.

>

>> ... and get back to us.

>

> I just did.

1. bush,jr's "Axis of Evil Speech"

2 bush,jr's lies that took us to war in Iraq

This weekend bush,jr's

staff will be creating a

deception to explain his

pullback in Iraq

August 3, 2007

In article <f8vurc$sd6$1@news.albasani.net>,

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:hal.i.burton-B946C0.15070303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> > In article <f8vt65$o9p$1@news.albasani.net>,

> > "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> >

> >> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> news:hal.i.burton-74022D.14405803082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> >> > In article <f8vqj1$1ng$1@news.albasani.net>,

> >> > "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> "Harold Burton" <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:hal.i.burton-C663EA.12412303082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...

> >> >> > In article <13b6m91ota3dm52@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > In article <13b59h516viu5ed@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> >> > Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >>>In article <13b56b48jhg1s4f@corp.supernews.com>,

> >> >> >> >>> Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>>>Harold Burton wrote:

> >> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >> >>>>>In article <dSvsi.762$zp5.520@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

> >> >> >> >>>>>"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >> >>>>>>August 2, 2007

> >> >> >> >>>>>>U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3, 659

> >> >> >> >>>>>>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

> >> >> >> >>>>>>Filed at 9:16 p.m. ET

> >> >> >> >>>>>>

> >> >> >> >>>>>>As of Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007, at least 3,659 members of

> >> >> >> >>>>>>the

> >> >> >> >>>>>>U.S.

> >> >> >> >>>>>>military

> >> >> >> >>>>>>have died...

> >> >> >> >>>>>

> >> >> >> >>>>>Yep that 3,659 sure beats the records set by DemocRATs

> >> >> >> >>>>>Woodrow

> >> >> >> >>>>>Wilson,

> >> >> >> >>>>>Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson.

> >> >> >> >>>>

> >> >> >> >>>> So you oppose the US participation in WWI, WWII and

> >> >> >> >>>> Vietnam?

> >> >> >> >>>

> >> >> >> >>>Change WWII to Korea and explain why you like all those

> >> >> >> >>>American

> >> >> >> >>>lives

> >> >> >> >>>lost in those fiascos.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Harry Truman was president when the bomb fell, and his

> >> >> >> >> predecessor

> >> >> >> >>was the democrat FDR.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> So, you are not opposed to the fisaco in Iraq? Or is

> >> >> >> >> there a

> >> >> >> >> KIA level

> >> >> >> >>at which you will declare it to be fiasco? Is it 5,000,

> >> >> >> >>10,000,

> >> >> >> >>33,000?

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> 70% of all armored vehicles are in Iraq. Ther are no

> >> >> >> >> reserves

> >> >> >> >> left to

> >> >> >> >>engage in another conflict. The admitted cost of the war so

> >> >> >> >>far

> >> >> >> >>is $450

> >> >> >> >>billion dollars, this does not include such costs as

> >> >> >> >>equipment

> >> >> >> >>repair/replacement and other expenses which have been

> >> >> >> >>pushed

> >> >> >> >>off

> >> >> >> >>into

> >> >> >> >>the future. The final total will probably be in excess of

> >> >> >> >>One

> >> >> >> >>Trillion

> >> >> >> >>dollars.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Just what does it take for you to admit this war has

> >> >> >> >> been a

> >> >> >> >> fiasco?

> >> >> >> >>But you have the most rediculous answer to date, but World

> >> >> >> >>War

> >> >> >> >>I!

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > You didn't answer my question.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You didn't have one. All you had was a diversion from the

> >> >> >> issue

> >> >> >> at hand.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> But when your Iraq is clearly such a fiasco, and you have

> >> >> >> no

> >> >> >> answers,

> >> >> >> then a diversion it is.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I don't think any of the other wars we have fought have been

> >> >> >> fiascos, I

> >> >> >> think some would have been best avoided but I don't think any

> >> >> >> have

> >> >> >> been

> >> >> >> uniformly as poorly managed (not even close) as this war.

> >> >> >> Every

> >> >> >> war

> >> >> >> has

> >> >> >> misjudgements, no other war has been an almost exclusive

> >> >> >> collection

> >> >> >> of them.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> So, you think Iraq is not a fiasco?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > If it's a fiasco it's one several orders of magnitude smaller

> >> >> > than

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > fiascos brought to you by DemocRATs Wilson, Truman, and

> >> >> > Johnson.

> >> >>

> >> >> It is the worst foreign policy blunder in our country's history

> >> >> courtesy of RepubLICKans.

> >> >

> >> > No, freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

> >> > was

> >> > the

> >> > worst blunder, brought to you by DemocRAT FDR at a cost of only

> >> > 418,000

> >> > American deaths.

> >>

> >> lol

> >>

> >> Google "worst foreign policy blunder"...

> >

> > That's how I found

> >

> > Freezing Japanese funds and placing an oil embargo on Japan

> >

> > or entering WWI

> >

> > or joining the UN.

> >

> >> ... and get back to us.

> >

> > I just did.

> You must have just overlooked the 600,000 whines about Iraq.

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