Mecca, Full Of Infidels

[Hamza123]

Than we can see gas prices going at 900 dollars a barrel... OPEC has 75% of all crude oil resources... An Abrahm, an Apachi, an F16... they all mean nothing without gas.

[Hamza123]

So if they were all sunnis during mohammeds time and now fragmented into shiahs today...why does the sunni's allow them into mecca...are they cowards not able to speak their minds or what?

 

Wtf? I don't see anything wrong with allowing other Muslims in Mecca, we believe Shiites are Muslims too. Perhaps it may not happen with Christianity in the States...

 

And oh, they do speak their minds all right! The only difference is they believe in the "almost" divinity of other people and they pray differently.

[Lethalfind]

Do you ever listen of are you death and blind...

 

It has already been explained to you that you are not allowed to question another persons Islam, if they tell you they are Muslims you cannot ask them anymore....

 

Unless you see an action from them which takes them outside of Islam then you cant do anything, and a lot of them LIKE I SAID are NOT, they are deviants, which is not the same thing!!

 

You are an obvious Kafir and you are kept out of Macca, so whats the problem??

 

And LithalFind,

 

Like I said, why do you think it hasnt been done...You are here and Allah is watching, just try it and you will see, you cant do it, so shut up and get over it, stop moaning and get on with your life...

 

LOLOL, thats one of the things I LOVE about the good old US of A, I can ask anything I want to anyone I like, I might not get an answer but I have the right to ask...You can explain your fantasy beliefs all you want, it doesn't make it so...

 

speaking of having horrible English...what exactly does "do you ever listen of are you death and blind" mean? Or are you so upset you can't type straight, since your skills are obviously above everyone else, I assume Allahs sits at your side.....LOLOL

[EnterNetProphet]

Wtf? I don't see anything wrong with allowing other Muslims in Mecca, we believe Shiites are Muslims too. Perhaps it may not happen with Christianity in the States...

 

And oh, they do speak their minds all right! The only difference is they believe in the "almost" divinity of other people and they pray differently.

 

Oh so you believe shiahs a muslim too?...tell that to the half blown to bits pieces of shiah iraqi's...courtesy of sunni fundamentalist.

[Hamza123]

Oh so you believe shiahs a muslim too?...tell that to the half blown to bits pieces of shiah iraqi's...courtesy of sunni fundamentalist.

 

It's going both ways... And those people who do so are not Muslim!!

 

Would you consider a priest that touches little boys a Christian?

 

Plain, and simple.

[phreakwars]

You know, I still never got an answer from a Muslim to my question about Mecca.

 

So here it is again.

 

Do you believe Mecca can never be harmed because "ALLAH" will protect it, or do you believe Mecca will never be harmed because of all the lash back from the Islamic community ??

 

Let's get fucking real here..

 

O.K. I understand that you were hynotized to believe that a holy place is indestructable, but do you REALLY believe this bullshit, and why ??

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[EnterNetProphet]

It's going both ways... And those people who do so are not Muslim!!

 

Would you consider a priest that touches little boys a Christian?

 

Plain, and simple.

 

Just As I would consider Mohammed not a muslim for marrying a six year old toddler namely Aisha

[builder]

Just As I would consider Mohammed not a muslim for marrying a six year old toddler namely Aisha

 

Just as I would consider a catholic priest not a christian for fucking a six year old boy.

 

I guess the big difference is, the moslems are not poofters

[EnterNetProphet]

Just as I would consider a catholic priest not a christian for fucking a six year old boy.

 

I guess the big difference is, the moslems are not poofters

 

 

I think thats what hamzah was getting at..no winners here.

[EnterNetProphet]

You know, I still never got an answer from a Muslim to my question about Mecca.

 

So here it is again.

 

Do you believe Mecca can never be harmed because "ALLAH" will protect it, or do you believe Mecca will never be harmed because of all the lash back from the Islamic community ??

 

Let's get fucking real here..

 

O.K. I understand that you were hynotized to believe that a holy place is indestructable, but do you REALLY believe this bullshit, and why ??

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I don't understand it either..Allah did not protect the palestinians when they got shafted...the only consolation they have is al aqsa mosque is still standing and in their possession.I think it sits on the site of king solomans temple.

[Mariama]

Palestine will be given back to the Muslims, they will win, and it is not for you or I to discuss when, as we know it will happen..

 

And I still do not know why none of you listen...

 

 

1) The Shia ARE muslims...Some deviant (not disbelievers) So therefore allowed into Mecca.

 

You are disbelievers, therefore not allowed into Mecca

 

Mecca is protected by Allah, do what you want, you cannot do it, and this has nothing to do with palestine, we are talking about Mecca here...

[phreakwars]

Mecca is protected by Allah, do what you want, you cannot do it, and this has nothing to do with palestine, we are talking about Mecca here...

See there you go talking shit again... one well placed daisy cutter will take out Mecca, why is it you believe that it can't ever be harmed.. are you really that naive to believe God protects it ??

 

If it was blown up by a M.O.A.B., WOULD YOU LOSE FAITH IN GOD ??

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[Hamza123]

Actually Mariama anyone is allowed in Mecca so long they do not harm anyone and do not disturb anyone during the prayers... Why do you think they're western camera men everywhere?

[snafu]

Actually Mariama anyone is allowed in Mecca so long they do not harm anyone and do not disturb anyone during the prayers... Why do you think they're western camera men everywhere?

 

 

CBN just did a thing on Medina? Is that right? The Prophet that's supposed to come back from a well? He's bringing Jesus and is going to teach him how to pray(right). I know it's a different mosque. The Iranian president wants to create the Kos that's supposed to happen before he comes. He starts the Kos by nukes or we bust his balls and start the Kos. Either way he wins because it starts the proses for this prophet to come. But they allowed CBN to interview people and film the well.

[Hamza123]

CBN just did a thing on Medina? Is that right? The Prophet that's supposed to come back from a well? He's bringing Jesus and is going to teach him how to pray(right). I know it's a different mosque. The Iranian president wants to create the Kos that's supposed to happen before he comes. But they allowed him to interview people and film the well.

 

Yeah, FOX, CNN, CBC, CTV, the whole Bunch of 'em.

 

People don't really care if you're in there unless your bothering others.

[Mariama]

Only Muslims and hypocrites are allowed into Mecca...This is something every Muslim knows, but then again I think I heard you say anyone can go to Jannah...

 

It is a COMMON thing, that every Muslim knows, you should understand for anyone who is not a Muslim and pretends to be so in order and get into Mecca, that makes them a hypocrite...Thus only Muslims and hypocrites are allowed into Mecca...

 

Come back from a well??? Ah me, it is a sad sad thing when one has no understanding...

 

As for Mecca...

 

there are signs before the day of judgement which some have passed others will come. From sign number 43:

 

43. An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah.

 

44. The huge cloud of smoke.

 

45. The sun will rise from the west (its place of setting).

 

46. A gentle wind which will take the souls of the believers.

 

47. There is no-one left on the earth saying, "Allah, Allah" or "There is no god except Allah."

 

48. Eventually the Day of Judgment is established upon the worst of the people, who copulate like donkeys in public.

 

49. The blowing in the Trumpet by the Angel Israfil, upon which everyone will faint except as Allah wills.

 

50. The second blowing in the Trumpet, upon which everyone will be resurrected.

 

So this is how I KNOW you and your people WILL NEVER destroy Mecca..

You can go on and on as you like but you wont do it! The world will be filled with evil just before the day of judgement...So no matter what you say or do, you cannot and WILL not do it...

 

My husband just completed his Hajj there is NO media coverage from disbelievers INSIDE mecca

and secondly they have to report from the air..The only people allowed in are those who are given permission, and they are not disbelievers.....

[Hamza123]

Umm, actually, there is a no fly zone above Mecca...

 

I haven't even been to Mecca, I guess I am too young, but I know a lot about it...

 

Look

 

but this is the best I have seen as it gives the viewer the perspective of a woman from Texas, a man from South Africa, and a man from Malaysia.

 

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000BWVNA/701-6265113-9842746

 

2 Non-Muslims and 1 Muslim .

 

Again, Arab Christian doing a Documentary...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/07/hajj.gorani/index.html

 

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/meast/01/07/hajj.gorani/story.hajj.cnncrew.jpg

 

It's very strict, only authorized Non-Muslims are allowed, and I think they're is a boundary for them.

 

Mariama, Why do you refer to every Non-Muslim as a disbeliever? That is Haram for Allah has stated in Surat Al Baqarah that those good Christians, Jews, and Pagans who do good deeds and believe in God shall never suffer.

[snafu]

You guys don't even know your own religion? The next Messiah is supposed to come out of a well in one of your mosques at the end of time. Tell me you don't know the story.

[Hamza123]

You guys don't even know your own religion? The next Messiah is supposed to come out of a well in one of your mosques at the end of time. Tell me you don't know the story.

 

Easter is a christian religious tradition that a lot of people follow who aren't Christian. Many kids in my world religions class claim to be christians but don't even know how many books there are of the Bible.

 

Allowance within the Hajj is stated to be free to all those who want to learn and embrace Islam, not for wrong-do-ers. Hadiths say otherwise, however the Qur'an does not instruct you to follow Hadiths.

[snafu]

Okay last night on CBN (the 700 club) they did an article on the Islamic faith in which they were all around this well in a mosque praying and putting prayers in the well that Medina the next prophet is supposed to come out of in the end days. The well is closed off by a steal frame but you can put paper prayers in it. One kid was trying to see the Prophet with a litter but he couldn't. The Iranian president wants to start total Kos which has to happen before this Messiah or prophet is to come back. He is bringing Jesus with him to teach and convert him to Islam. I can't find anything on this on the web. So I can't explain it any better.

They had their cameras and reporter there interviewing Muslims praying around this well.

[Hamza123]

Okay last night on CBN (the 700 club) they did an article on the Islamic faith in which they were all around this well in a mosque praying and putting prayers in the well that Medina the next prophet is supposed to come out of in the end days. The well is closed off by a steal frame but you can put paper prayers in it. One kid was trying to see the Prophet with a litter but he couldn't. The Iranian president wants to start total Kos which has to happen before this Messiah or prophet is to come back. He is bringing Jesus with him to teach and convert him to Islam. I can't find anything on this on the web. So I can't explain it any better.

They had their cameras and reporter there interviewing Muslims praying around this well.

 

Hmm... Ill have to ask my father, he knows the kind of stuff I don't.

[Mariama]

Lol, hamza, being silly...Seriously though, CNN and the like have Muslims working for them, these are the ones who go in and report for them, disbelievers really are NOT allowed you have to accept this...

 

 

 

 

shias have deviant understanding, (not all but most)...All you have to do is look for the "signs of Qiyamah" and you will see the true events before the end of time...

 

These are the true signs, ignore what the shia sa for these idea of theirs are very wrong. read these, this is it, take it in.

 

1. Splitting of the Moon.

2. Death of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.

3. A form of death which will kill thousands of Muslims. (Understood to refer to the plague of Amwas during the

caliphate of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab.)

4. A major fighting in Madinah (understood to refer to the battle of al-Harrah during the caliphate of Yazid, 63 AH).

5. The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem.

6. The Muslim conquest of Constantinople.

7. Two large groups of Muslims will fight in war.

8. A war between the Muslims and a reddish people with small eyes, wearing sandals made of hair (understood to refer to

the Mongol Tatar invasion of the Islamic lands.)

9. A peace agreement between the Muslims and non-Muslims from the yellow race (Chinese, Mongols, etc.)

10. Thirty impostors (dajjal) will appear, each thinking he is a prophet.

Present?

 

11. Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.

12. The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.

13. A trial (fitnah) which will enter every Arab household.

14. Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge), and ignorance will prevail.

15. Wine (intoxicants, alcohol) will be drunk in great quantities.

16. Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.

17. Earthquakes will increase.

18. Time will pass more quickly.

19. Tribulations (fitan) will prevail.

20. Bloodshed will increase.

21. A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.

22. Trustworthiness will be lost, i.e. when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.

23. People will gather for prayer, but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.

 

Future

24. The number of men will decrease, whilst the number of women will increase, until for every man there are 50 women.

25. The Euphrates will reveal a treasure of gold, and many will die fighting over it, each one hoping to be the one who gains

the treasure.

26. The Romans (Europeans) will come to a place called A’maq or Wabiq, and an army of the best people will go forth from Madinah to face them.

27. The Muslim conquest of Rome.

28. The Mahdi (guided one) will appear, and be the Imam of the Muslims.

29. Jesus Christ will descend in Damascus, and pray behind the Mahdi.

30. Jesus will break the cross and kill the swine, i.e. destroy the false christianity.

31. The Antichrist (al-masih al-dajjal, the false christ) will appear, with all his tools of deception, and be an immense trial. He will be followed by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan (present-day Iran).

32. The appearance of Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog), and the associated tribulations.

33. The emergence of the Beast from the Earth, carrying the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon, who will speak to the people, telling them they did not believe with certainty in the Divine Signs.

34. A major war between the Muslims (including Jews and Christians who truly believe in Jesus after his return) led by the Imam Mahdi, and the Jews plus other non-Muslims led by the Antichrist.

35. Jesus will kill the Antichrist at the gate of Ludd (Lod in present-day Israel, site of an airport and a major Israeli military base).

36. A time of great peace and serenity during and after the remaining lifetime of Jesus.

37. Wealth will come so abundant that it will become difficult to find someone to accept charity.

38. Arabia will become a land of gardens and rivers.

39. Society will then decay.

40. The buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daws will again sway in circumambulation (tawaf) around the idol Dhul-Khulsah.

41. A great fire in the Hijaz, seen by the inhabitants of Busra.

42. Three major armies will sink into the earth: one in the east, one in the west, one in Arabia.

43. An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah.

44. The huge cloud of smoke.

45. The sun will rise from the west (its place of setting).

46. A gentle wind which will take the souls of the believers.

47. There is no-one left on the earth saying, "Allah, Allah" or "There is no god except Allah."

48. Eventually the Day of Judgment is established upon the worst of the people, who copulate like donkeys in public.

49. The blowing in the Trumpet by the Angel Israfil, upon which everyone will faint except as Allah wills.

50. The second blowing in the Trumpet, upon which everyone will be resurrected.

[snafu]

Lol, hamza, being silly...Seriously though, CNN and the like have Muslims working for them, these are the ones who go in and report for them, disbelievers really are NOT allowed you have to accept this...

 

 

 

 

shias have deviant understanding, (not all but most)...All you have to do is look for the "signs of Qiyamah" and you will see the true events before the end of time...

 

These are the true signs, ignore what the shia sa for these idea of theirs are very wrong. read these, this is it, take it in.

 

1. Splitting of the Moon.

2. Death of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.

3. A form of death which will kill thousands of Muslims. (Understood to refer to the plague of Amwas during the

caliphate of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab.)

4. A major fighting in Madinah (understood to refer to the battle of al-Harrah during the caliphate of Yazid, 63 AH).

5. The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem.

6. The Muslim conquest of Constantinople.

7. Two large groups of Muslims will fight in war.

8. A war between the Muslims and a reddish people with small eyes, wearing sandals made of hair (understood to refer to

the Mongol Tatar invasion of the Islamic lands.)

9. A peace agreement between the Muslims and non-Muslims from the yellow race (Chinese, Mongols, etc.)

10. Thirty impostors (dajjal) will appear, each thinking he is a prophet.

Present?

 

11. Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.

12. The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.

13. A trial (fitnah) which will enter every Arab household.

14. Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge), and ignorance will prevail.

15. Wine (intoxicants, alcohol) will be drunk in great quantities.

16. Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.

17. Earthquakes will increase.

18. Time will pass more quickly.

19. Tribulations (fitan) will prevail.

20. Bloodshed will increase.

21. A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.

22. Trustworthiness will be lost, i.e. when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.

23. People will gather for prayer, but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.

 

Future

24. The number of men will decrease, whilst the number of women will increase, until for every man there are 50 women.

25. The Euphrates will reveal a treasure of gold, and many will die fighting over it, each one hoping to be the one who gains

the treasure.

26. The Romans (Europeans) will come to a place called A’maq or Wabiq, and an army of the best people will go forth from Madinah to face them.

27. The Muslim conquest of Rome.

28. The Mahdi (guided one) will appear, and be the Imam of the Muslims.

29. Jesus Christ will descend in Damascus, and pray behind the Mahdi.

30. Jesus will break the cross and kill the swine, i.e. destroy the false christianity.

31. The Antichrist (al-masih al-dajjal, the false christ) will appear, with all his tools of deception, and be an immense trial. He will be followed by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan (present-day Iran).

32. The appearance of Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog), and the associated tribulations.

33. The emergence of the Beast from the Earth, carrying the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon, who will speak to the people, telling them they did not believe with certainty in the Divine Signs.

34. A major war between the Muslims (including Jews and Christians who truly believe in Jesus after his return) led by the Imam Mahdi, and the Jews plus other non-Muslims led by the Antichrist.

35. Jesus will kill the Antichrist at the gate of Ludd (Lod in present-day Israel, site of an airport and a major Israeli military base).

36. A time of great peace and serenity during and after the remaining lifetime of Jesus.

37. Wealth will come so abundant that it will become difficult to find someone to accept charity.

38. Arabia will become a land of gardens and rivers.

39. Society will then decay.

40. The buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daws will again sway in circumambulation (tawaf) around the idol Dhul-Khulsah.

41. A great fire in the Hijaz, seen by the inhabitants of Busra.

42. Three major armies will sink into the earth: one in the east, one in the west, one in Arabia.

43. An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah.

44. The huge cloud of smoke.

45. The sun will rise from the west (its place of setting).

46. A gentle wind which will take the souls of the believers.

47. There is no-one left on the earth saying, "Allah, Allah" or "There is no god except Allah."

48. Eventually the Day of Judgment is established upon the worst of the people, who copulate like donkeys in public.

49. The blowing in the Trumpet by the Angel Israfil, upon which everyone will faint except as Allah wills.

50. The second blowing in the Trumpet, upon which everyone will be resurrected.

 

Okay a lot of bullshit but still nothing on the well. You mean to tell me you faithful followers of Muhammad the the pimp can't remember the well? I thought there was only one Islamic religion? No variables. Didn't I hear a lot of hoopla about the christian faith that changes so much? I know that was a while back but come on. Someone tell us about this well, the wars of the world and then the Prophet coming back with Jesus.

[hugo]

The swaying buttocks sounds interesting.

[Mariama]

Do you EVER listen???

 

The bible as it stands now, is full of contradictions...It has changed and no christian follows what they should, because it is no longer relivant...Allah has kept the Qur'an pure and it cannot be changed, thus the reason why we KNOW that these weird ideas are deviant, because every Muslim can access the real Islam...we know the proofs and we know clear evidence, so we do not go wrong...Just because a few people make up some nonsense, does not mean there is more than one Islam, it simply means they deviate.

 

Islam has NOT changed, you cannot stop people from following their own weird ideas..The rest of us just leave them to it, they have deviated, what has that to do with Islam?? Nothing. Qur'an and Sunnah is Qur'an and Sunnah, it doesn't change and never will. The shia do not follow the sunnah thus the reason they do not call themselves Sunnis..

 

There is no well! The idea you are speaking of is a deviant shia belief, it has nothing to do with Islam...What about that can't you understand?

Get over it...