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Well, if this is such a great idea to the Democrats, lets cut Ted Kennedy's care off right now. After all, he has a terminal diagnosis and they're just flushing money down the toilet to keep his bloated corpse alive.

In addition to that article: Proponents of socialist healthcare here in the US virtually never cite any of the realities of any of the existing "socialist" systems, be it one in Canada, Sweden, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, etc. Their system is always based on some non-existent, utopian system where all the treatments and outcomes will of course be "fair and equal". How can that possibly happen when by its very nature all services under such a system will have to be rationed? Its just common sense that any service, if its perceived to be free, is going to be exploited. In a 2005 ruling Canada's federal and provincial governments tried to fix the long wait times by issuing new targets one being a 26 wk wait for hip replacements. What is the reality? I have an uncle in his late 70's, who lives in Regina, SK which is literally the "cradle of socialized healthcare" in North America given its introduction in the province back in July 1962. He finally got a hip replaced ~ a year ago, but only after hobbling around with a cane for 2+ years. And that's with a system that already has "rationalized" supply and demand for medical services. Think about what will happen here in the US when “universal coverage" will be extended to the estimated 37 million who have no insurance. Nowhere in the discussion have the proponents of socialized healthcare in the US mentioned that key in the Canadian system, is the use of a "premium" or "deterrent fees". It serves as a kind of hurdle to dampen demand for unnecessary services, notably for hypocondriacs and the proverbial "little old ladies" who reason "that if its Tuesday its time for their regular doctor visit", which is in fact a disguised social outing. That scenario represents a very real attracted cost to any socialized system. Another result given the politics and turnout of old people in elections, has been the setting of an "appropriate" deterrent fee which has been a factor to varying degrees in virtually every Canadian provincial election since late 1962 when socialized healthcare was introduced across the country. Don't think that would happen here? Think again! Make no mistake about the limousine liberals and the ObamaBots motives in promising "universal healthcare". It has already started with the recent backdoor passage of additions to the existing "State Children’s Health Insurance Program" ("SCHIP"), which is now geared for families making up to $80K. Its to be paid for by an increase in taxes on tobacco products. SCHIP represents the political "thick end of the wedge" for the Dems to get real socialized medicine in this country. Its not so much a case of apparent liberal "concerns about the apparent lack of universal healthcare coverage" for children as it is about liberals wanting to exert ever more control over all of us, making us ever more dependent on big government as the solution for everything. Future votes for Democrats can then be assured. And that's what its all about.

Economics 101 tells us that, ceteris paribus, as the price of something goes down, demand goes up. So when healthcare becomes "free," the demand goes through the roof, and so does the cost. The government can only take in so much in taxes, so at some point care must be rationed. Rationing comes in many forms. Long waits, denied services, etc. If you don't pay with your own money, you will pay in long waits, poor service, and, in some cases, with your life. If the government is going to MANDATE health coverage for every person living in these here United States, then I want my tax dollar to pay for only the healthy and sound. I'm not paying for some trash's smoking cessation paraphenalia, or lyposuction for the human compost heap, or the lazy bastard unwilling to work to change his situation. This way, the healthier will use less of my money, and I can hopefully eek out some life for myself with my own earned income. The truth is, you are ultimately obligated to take care of your own damn self. It's not up to your fukken neighbor! I wouldn't put any faith, hope, or trust in a government run healthcare system! It is the very nature of competing businesses to try to run each other out of the marketplace. Government health care will be no different. The bureaucrats and politicians behind the government health plan, recognizing that every switch from private sector to government insurance increases government dependency, will fight to destroy the private market. This won't be hard to do, after all the private insurance market will have to earn a profit. The government insurance scheme will not. Barbara Bush recently had open-heart surgery. She's fine. This should be of interest to you however. As soon as we get the Democrat's nationalized medicine your chances of getting open-heart surgery at her age will be somewhat similar to my chances of waking up tomorrow with my fukken mortgage paid off! Commissar Obama is really pushing this nationalized medicine thing. Remember .. in Obama's mind America's greatness comes from government - on only government can provide us with a great health care system. Private sector? Forget it. If there are any certainties in our life - one would be the certainty of rationed health care in our future. Barack Obama says that his thoughts on healthcare are "evolving." Oh really? Well what are they "evolving" toward? It seems as though Obama is okay with the idea of mandating that individuals purchase health insurance. Of course, there would be a waiver for the poor, poor, pitiful poor. Where in our Constitution does it give the federal government the authority that private citizens buy anything, let alone health insurance? I've tried, but I just can't find it there. Then I suddenly realized what an idiot I was for trying to find a Constitutional justification for an Obama plan. Now get this ... this is his explanation as to why he thinks that mandates for all people are a good thing: "People have made some pretty compelling arguments to me that if we want to have a system that drives down costs for everybody, then we've got to have healthier people not opt out of the system." Ohhhhh ... that's ObamaLogic for you. So, in the World According to Obama, even if you are healthy and/or could afford to pay for your own healthcare costs as they arise, the government still wants to force you into its system. Why is that? Not because you need their health insurance, but because they need your money. Duh. If you are a healthier person that is forced into paying for health insurance, naturally you are going to choose the least expensive option, which in this case may be the government option. Now you know you aren't really going to use the services, but hey .. at least you are avoiding that pesky government fine. So now, your payments can be used to subsidize the healthcare of some government leach. Ohhh soooo typical, Komrade. You forgot the cleverly placed "rollseyes" emoticon next to Democrats, Komrade. Ohhh... and was Obama bitching about the rationing of healthcare. Ruin Your Health With The Obama Stimulus Plan

A video so nice, I posted it twice. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5vzOAEQ-A&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Reporters Grill Gibbs Over Prepackaged Questions for Obama[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh5vzOAEQ-A&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Reporters Grill Gibbs Over Prepackaged Questions for Obama[/ame] Even Chip Reid from CBS News was getting in on the fumbling Robert Gibbs. And now, listen for Helen Thomas to chime in! Love it! Hahahaha!

I want my stuff! Where's my stuff??? I am entitled to stuff because I finished high school! Obama shackled me hand to foot, but please feed me!

Why is it that all of the uninsured folks talking about their astronomical health costs seem to be obese? Of course they are not all obese, but tobacco, alcohol, and food are the top 3 preventable killers. Is it the job of the federal goverment, on the dime of the American taxpayer, to take care of these sloths? I'm sure you'll give me a good answer, Komrade.

So you want to know the truth about Barack Obama's healthcare plan? How about 118 million people switching their healthcare from the private sector to the "free" government option? Does that sound like it is going to provide much in the way of competition? No. But that's what the politicians keep claiming. Look no further than Great Britain to see what will happen when the government gets involved in healthcare. This is from the Washington Examiner. Not enough for you? Continue reading. You can hear about the wonders of government regulation in France. The fact of the matter is that Barack Obama's healthcare reforms are just the beginning. Like France, it will be a slow decline into a system of government controls, regulation and bureaucracy. A system that is not about your healthcare but about power. By the way ... if you want the government to take over responsibility for your health care you have no business waving little American flags this Saturday.

Well... if this chick gets covered by the government subsidized healthcare system on the American taxpayer's dime, I want my big ass Toyota Tundra 4x4 filled with gas every week and mortgage paid every month! Fair? Ohh... and a hug would be nice.

Brilliant assumption there, Comrade! By the way, have you ever been to Mississippi?

I hate it, but I fukken concur. Although grotesquely wrong in most of their policies and beliefs, Democrats (ie: the Progressives) are not scared to push their agenda. The GOP has been frightened of criticism that may have resulted from pushing their agenda, so the milktoast solution is to talk big and do the same old thing. Imagine being Norm Coleman. Imagine being remembered as the guy who lost to Al Franken. Mazal tov and B'hatzlacha!, Senator Comrade Franken!

I can't believe that people have lives that are so incredibly dull, so incredibly empty that they have to kill themselves over a pop idol's death. I wonder if anyone has shot up KABOOM! in wake of Billy Mays' death?

Haha! You beat me to it!

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are duking it out over who gets to have the spotlight at Michael Jackson's funeral. Nothing like a good race pimp fight. No hair pulling guys. Revs. Sharpton, Jackson Jockey for Position in Michael Jackson's Memorial Spotlight

Michael Jackson fans are now committing suicide because they are so heartbroken over his death. Somehow this doesn't strike me as a bad thing. Grieving Jackson Fans 'Commit Suicide'

This 60 vote majority is where the 'fun' really begins, the GOP isn't even a speed bump any more. It's poetic this happened on the week of the 4th. It doesn't matter if the Democrats drive the ecomnomy off a cliff, as long as they can steal elections. '10 and '12 are looking more dicey every day. Roll over and play dead.

Al Franken is a world class douchebag. He is a true void surrounded by a sphincter muscle. The people of Minnesota are in for a real treat on this one. Even Cynthia McKinney doesn't come close. She's actually charming.

Now we have this story out of Canada where private for-profit (the horror!) clinics are becoming a booming business. While Barack Obama seeks to implement a universal healthcare system like Canada, the Canadians are trying to emulate a system closer to the United States. This article says, "Facing long waits and substandard care, private clinics are proving that Canadians are willing to pay for treatment." Yep, that's the future of the United States. In fact, under the Canada Health Act, private facilities are not allowed to charge citizens for services that are covered by government insurance. That was until 2005, when a Supreme Court ruling in Quebec ruled that patients facing unreasonable wait times could pay out of pocket for private treatment. Now you are going to love this. Here is the explanation from the Ontario Health Coalition as to why private clinics are bad for Canadians: "Private clinics don't produce one new doctor, nurse, or specialist. All they do it take the existing ones out of the public system, make wait times longer for everybody else while people who can pay more and more and more money jump the queue for health care services." This, my friends, is why the left is eventually going to have to forbid you from seeking your own doctor with your own funds. That was Hillary's plan .. it will soon be Obama's. PRIVATE HEALTHCARE BOOMING IN ... CANADA?

Now we know just how ignorant Obama thinks the American people are. Answer: Dumb as rocks. All the president's men (and women) are out selling the asinine idea that Obama's government health insurance idea is going to put competition into the marketplace. This is an idea that one could only sell to a fool. Thanks to our system of government education, we are not suffering any shortage of fools. Here's what Obama wants us to think. If the government gets into the health insurance business it will create such a fine and wonderful health insurance product that all other health insurance companies out there will have to tweak their products and prices in order to compete. This competition will, if you believe Obama and his sycophants, make health insurance more effective and more available across the board. Like I said .. there's certainly no shortage of fools out there. Someone is buying into this load of horsesh!t. Sure, the government may very well come up with a health insurance product that is cheaper (to the consumer) and more effective than those offered in the private sector. Think about this though ... Could that possibly be because the government will be under no pressure whatsoever to make a profit on its health insurance? When you can operate at a loss indefinitely you have no problem undercutting your competitors. When you can call on endless government subsidies you can run anyone you choose out of business. Let's say I operate a government owned grocery store. My stated goal is to give the other grocery stores in town some competition so we can provide a better product to the poor hungry consumers and help them save money at the same time. The other grocery stores will have to make a profit or close their doors. Not me! I'm the government, and I can operate at a loss. I have endless government subsidies and infusions of cash at my disposal. What will happen? No secret: When I move into the marketplace with a below-cost product the other grocery stores will shut down and I'll have your business locked up. Then I can do whatever I want with the choice, quality and price of my groceries and there really isn't a thing you'll be able to do about it. There, my friends, is Obama's goal. He knows very well that his government-run insurance option is going to run private sector insurance companies out of business. Then the only game in town will be the government. This "competition" nonsense is just a talking point created to placate the dumb masses. The average 12-year-old home schooled child could dissect this game plan in a heartbeat. The same fools who thought Obama was going to pay their mortgage and put gas in their cars will now think that PrezBO is bringing good old free market competition to the health insurance marketplace. All hail Obama, the sort-of God. Now if the competition line doesn't work there's always a little class warfare that can be played. Sorry ... didn't get the name ... but I saw some ObamaBot on Fox News last night trying to sell Obama's health insurance takeover on a wealth envy basis. He referred to health insurance companies being engaged in "Sweetheart Deals that makes its executives very very rich," and referred to the private sector health insurance companies as a "cartel." On the one hand he plays directly to wealth envy and the hatred that the Obama crowd has been generating toward high-paid executives; on the other he conjures images of health insurers operating like the Mexican or Colombian drug cartels. That's the Obama concept of open discussion. This is about control. Nothing more, nothing less. Obama wants control. Control over every aspect of your life. He's well on his way to complete success. Wednesday, the president will hold another online town hall about heath care. They're taking your video questions via YouTube. You can try asking your questions. We'll see if they actually get answered or if they just cherry pick the easy ones. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY7HccFXjZU&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - President Obama - Your Turn: Join the National Online Discussion on Health Care Reform[/ame]

I find it disturbing that the decision to overturn Sotomayor's lower court ruling wasn't unanimous.

"The good, say the mystics of spirit, is God, a being whose only definition is that he is beyond man's power to conceive- a definition that invalidates man's consciousness and nullifies his concepts of existence. Man's mind, say the mystics of spirit, must be subordinated to the will of God. Man's standard of value, say the mystics of spirit, is the pleasure of God, whose standards are beyond man's power of comprehension and must be accepted on faith. The purpose of man's life is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons he is not to question." - From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand

Luckily he died before Obama's Death Tax increase set for 2010, he wants to increase it from 0% to 45%, took place. That might make the Jackson clan question who they voted into office.

Yep, during the numerous years Bernie ran his operation, he paid investors their principal and interest when demanded. He did what he said he would do... provide a steady 10%-12% return on deposited capital that he duped from his "investors". When the market dried up and investor capital was no longer flowing in, he saw that the jig was up and confessed his scheme to his family and turned himself in. On the other hand, "investors" don't have any choice but to "contribute" to the biggest Ponzi Scheme in history...The Social Security System. Ole' Bernie made his system work for years... maybe his sentence should be to manage the operations of a really grand rip-off scheme... the Social Security Administration!

"Hero's what? Did you mean heroes?" -RO trying to decypher Wez-speak.

Wow... Wow... Government school's elite right there.