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Best of You Foo Fighters I've got another confession to make I'm your fool Everyone's got their chains to break Holding you Were you born to resist? Or be abused? Is someone getting the best of you? x2 Or are you gone and on to someone new? I needed somewhere to hang my head Without your noose You gave me something that I didn't have But had no use I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose My heart is under arrest again But I'll break loose My head is giving me life or death But I can't choose I swear I'll never give in I refuse Is someone getting the best of you? x2 Has someone taken your faith? It's real, the pain you feel Your trust? You must confess Is someone getting the best of you? Has someone taken your faith? It's real, the pain you feel The life, the love you'd die to heal The hope that starts the broken heart Your trust? You must confess Is someone getting the best of you? x2 I've got a another confession, my friend I'm no fool I'm getting tired of starting again Somewhere new Were you born to resist or be abused? I swear I'll never give in I refuse Is someone getting the best of you? x2 Has someone taken your faith? It's real, the pain you feel Your trust? You must confess Is someone getting the best of you?

Who's we and us? hahahahahaha.. okay.. whatever you say.. Who's them?

It is important to mention here one very tricky sleight-of-hand that a narcissist does to disarm someone from self-defense. This is accomplished by intentionally mislabeling your defensive behaviors as being "retribution" or "vengeance". They accuse you of hurting them. They pretend to know your motives and lay the accusation that any efforts you make to defend yourself are actually coming from your desire to hurt them. If they can convince you that you are being vengeful, or at least if they can convince you that others see you as being vengeful, then they can shut you down. http://narcissists-s...f%20narcissists ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No TJ.. I do what I want.. all me.. nobody makes me do anything.. That would be you that constantly claims victim and lays the blame on everyone but yourself.. I'm not you..

http://narcissists-suck.blogspot.com/search/label/Abusive%20tactics%20of%20narcissists Knowing that a narcissist is driven by their need for power over others, and knowing they are always in search of this headiest drug which is absolute power over others, then you'll also be aware that they must force your submission in order to feel powerful over you. All this leads straight to the fact that a narcissist must deprive you of your right to defend yourself to accomplish this. They will always do this by fraud, lies, and threats. They will bring in their proxies to help them get you to submit to that which no one should ever have to submit to. It is important to mention here one very tricky sleight-of-hand that a narcissist does to disarm someone from self-defense. This is accomplished by intentionally mislabeling your defensive behaviors as being "retribution" or "vengeance". They accuse you of hurting them. They pretend to know your motives and lay the accusation that any efforts you make to defend yourself are actually coming from your desire to hurt them. If they can convince you that you are being vengeful, or at least if they can convince you that others see you as being vengeful, then they can shut you down. They want to be able to pretend that your forced submission is a real submission...and this can only be done if they successfully deprive you of your ability to defend yourself. It is the right that the proxies and bystanders will tell you that you don't have. "Turn the other cheek" is the pious phrasing far too many victims of abusers have gotten for advice when they desperately have sought for help with their situation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What was the intention of this thread TJ? Gather up some "proxies"? Need some validation? Why?

errrrr.. well.. thanks fer the offer eddo.. but.. I'll pass..

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Actually, your desire to point out and incessantly bawl about being called names, "harassed", and negative repped proves yourself to be a hypocrite. It's ok for you to do to nearly everyone here, but not ok to do to you, or else? How does that work? But then of course, you're always the victim, right? You never do anything wrong. You're TJ.. the last hope and vestige for humanity and Off Topic Forum.. Just like Ted Bundy, Dennis Rader, and Richard Ramirez, all of you are now/were raging narcissistics, you've always been the bully TJ, how does it feel? http://www.time.com/...1612688,00.html

A narcissist is described as excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power and prestige. It is also defined as excessive self-centeredness with a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy. Narcissists lack empathy, are exploitative, envious, and feel entitled. Often their grandiosity is extreme, but their accomplishments and reciprocity are meager. Because narcissists dissemble, conspire, destroy, and potentially self-destruct, their vision is rarely grounded in reality. Here are some signs to look for when identifying narcissists’ tactics: 1. Self-absorbed and lacks empathy. Acts like everything is all about them and is uninterested in you or others. 2. Entitled and demanding. Makes the rules, breaks the rules, and is aggressive about what they want. 3. Perfectionistic and conceited. Have rigidly high standards for you and lord their superiority over you. 4. Seeks own adoration and is unremorseful. Demands constant praise and recognition, but will never offer genuine praise or apologies. http://knowledgenetw.../03/04/power23/

The Crown of the Sun Credit & Copyright: Alain Maury, Jean-Luc Dauvergne [attach=full]1923[/attach] Explanation: During a total solar eclipse, the Sun's extensive outer atmosphere, or corona, is an inspirational sight. Subtle shades and shimmering features that engage the eye span a brightness range of over 10,000 to 1, making them notoriously difficult to capture in a single photograph. But this composite of 7 consecutive digital images over a range of exposure times comes close to revealing the crown of the Sun in all its glory. The telescopic views were recorded from the Isla de Pascua (Easter Island) during July 11's total solar eclipse and also show solar prominences extending just beyond the edge of the eclipsed sun. Remarkably, features on the dim, near side of the New Moon can also be made out, illuminated by sunlight reflected from a Full Earth.

Just the Two of Us Bill Withers I see the crystal raindrops fall And see the beauty of it all Is when the sun comes shining through To make those rainbows in my mind When I think of you some time And I want to spend some time with you Just the two of us We can make it if we try Just the two of us Just the two of us Building castles in the sky Just the two of us You and I We look for love, no time for tears Wasted water's all that is And it don't make no flowers grow Good things might come to those who wait Not to those who wait too late We got to go for all we know Just the two of us We can make it if we try Just the two of us Just the two of us Building castles in the sky Just the two of us You and I I hear the crystal raindrops fall On the window down the hall And it becomes the morning dew Darling, when the morning comes And I see the morning sun I want to be the one with you Just the two of us We can make it if we try Just the two of us Just the two of us Building big castles way on high Just the two of us You and I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEy6MGu3bIA

Dark River, Wide Field Credit & Copyright: Rogelio Bernal Andreo [attach=full]1922[/attach] Explanation: A Dark River of dust seems to run from our Galactic Center, then pool into a starfield containing photogenic sky wonders. Scrolling right will reveal many of these objects including (can you find?) the bright orange star Antares, a blue(-eyed) horsehead nebula, the white globular star cluster M4, the bright blue star system Rho Ophiuchi, the dark brown Pipe nebula, the red Lagoon nebula, the red and blue Trifid nebula, the red Cat's Paw Nebula, and the multicolored but still important center of our Galaxy. This wide view captures in exquisite detail about 50 degrees of the nighttime sky, 100 times the size of the full Moon, covering constellations from the Archer (Sagittarius) through the Snake Holder (Ophiuchus), to the Scorpion (Scorpius). The Dark River itself can be identified as the brown dust lane connected to Antares, and spans about 100 light years. Since the Dark River dust lane lies only about 500 light years away, it only appears as a bridge to the much more distant , that actually lies about 25,000 light years farther away.

Hey Lois.. I accept you just the way you are.. just like I always have.. are ya done bawling now? It's only been 2 weeks.. Do you want me to stop negative repping you? If so, why? Make your case.. However, I can tell ya right now your reverse psycholoy/hypocrite claims/bully tactics wont work.. I know better.. ya see.. the deal is.. I'm not you..

Awwww.. Feeling left out there eddo? hugs.. there there big boy.. it'll be ok.. Are you now repping yourself as well? Perhaps you and TJ should make up.. I'm sure brotherbitch would be up for a threesome.. hahahaha..

Wow.. $175,000? Only dirty cops got that kinda cash laying around.. Good for her.. untraceable.. no wonder ya didn't get credit.. Never got any assistance at all huh? Her or your kids? hmmmmm.. for some reason.. why don't I believe you? Prolly cuz you're a lying sack of sh t.. Now I'm done "punishing" you.. See ya..

So.. you see me negative repping you as punishment.. why? Does it bother you? Do you base your self worth on my opinion and your Off Topic Forum reputation score?

I never jumped on a soapbox and complained about rules or other people imposing rules and penalties ~ Lois I only started pushing for action with Wez because he was running without restriction and posting personal attacks and childish "I'm not you" crap all over the forum. ~ Lois You go out of your way to try and punish those who do not conform to your demands to believe or act a certain way so when someone displeases you, you turn to nasty name calling, harassment, and now you're bawling because you have been getting negative rep? These are all "YOUR" actions TJ, not mine. You do it, you feel a need to punish and follow through with that desire. I'm not you, psycho

Once again, where the f ck did I ever say I wanted the government to take anything from anyone and give them to "people like me"? Never have I asked/expected or received anything from the government in my life.. Lemme ask you a question that went unanswered over two years ago again.. During and after your divorce, were there ever any legal issues of child support and did your ex wife EVER receive ANY government benefits for the sake of your children's welfare? 99.999999% certain I know the TRUE answer to that one.. 99.999999% certain you'd never honestly answer it in a million years either.. hypocrites are liars like that..

I never jumped on a soapbox and complained about rules or other people imposing rules and penalties ~ Lois My complaints were from the lack of consistency and fair application of rules ~ Lois As example even after there was a clear rule against people bringing their dirty laundry from other forums to this forum, you never stopped chasing eddo around about your banning at another site. ~ Lois So again we come back to "YOUR ACTIONS" to punish those who do not conform to your desires. ~ Lois You can't punnish me!! I don't get punnished!! I do the punnishing! Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaa ~ Lois ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hahahahaha.. And it's getting more and more absurd ~ Elton John Whatever is ok for you to do to another human being is ok for every other human being to do to you ~ wez I'm not you ~ wez Again, why do see being negative repped as punishment?

I bash corruption, exploitation, control, violence, and hypocrisy. I value freedom, hard work, honesty, compassion, forgiveness, and individualism. What's funny TJ.. you expect/demand everyone subscribe to your fantasy about what America is/should be, or else. You call anyone who doesn't agree with you liberal, socialist, blah, blah, whatever to try to shame/guilt them into your socialist collective where everyone is the same.You can't stand anyone having an independent thought/view/lifestyle that differs from your own. You have a compulsion to control people. You love to impose "punnishment" on others for being what you, in fact, are. Doesn't get much more socialist/communist than that, hypocrite. btw.. I'm not you..

I asked IWS if he punnished Wez for things he does wrong when he deletes things. I have seen many things deleted or edited by IWS and Wez still going strong like he never even noticed. ~ Louie So to justify my repremand from IWS, my comment about not going away mad and my admitting to "attacking members" must somehow be violations against the Site, but if this is the basis of me getting in trouble, the same thing would apply to most of what Wez says on this forum ~ Louie I see a clear double standard forming with how IWS is playing protective big brother with Wez, deleting his more offending remarks before people can complain but streching the rules as far as possible to give me warnings. ~ Louie Again, if he asks me to leave, I will gladly do as requested, but I will not sit back and watch this forum be ruined just because IWS feels some kind of protective obligation with Wez. ~ Louie Blinders are used to keep an animal focused down on where it is going. Being as your flailing around in all directions desperately trying to make excuses for Wez's own behavoir and condmemn those of us who "respond" to Wez's behavoir, maybe you could use some blinders of your own to get your focus back. ~ Louie Yopur supposed to be a staff member and a staff member needs to be more concerned with doing what is right for the forum and not what is right to feed his personal anger. ~ Louie This is not about you Wez, please leave me alone. The only reason I mention your name with the discussion id because IWS gave me two infractions based on my replies to this, otherwise I would not mention you at all. ~ Louie I am starting to get the feeling that this is like football, one guy breaks the rules and hits a player on the other team, the other player does not like the fact he was hit so he hits back, the officials only see the second hit. ~ Louie While you guys have been trying to do all sorts of back flips to deal with Wez, he has been the cause of all this mess including this perceived mess you see with me. I only started pushing for action with Wez because he was running without restriction and posting personal attacks and childish "I'm not you" crap all over the forum. ~ Louie If your upset at my trying to act, then simply look into the mirror because if you guys had acted when the Wez problem was forming, I would never have felt the need to act myself. ~ Louie Even if you do remove me now, at least I can leave with the knowledge that I acted and did not just sit back and watch Wez slowly ruin this forum. ~ Louie Just remember this, with everything you have done up to now, Wez is still doing what he has always done. How much time have you put into trying to educate him? How much time have you wasted? ~ Louie Everything including this with me is all a domino effect from him. ~ Louie The question is not if you will end up removing Wez, he will keep pushing and pushing until you have no other choice. The question is if you will have any members still here when that time comes. ~ Louie All I want is to be a member of a forum where open debating is possible without stuff like "I'm not you" being spammed all over the forum, I am not the only member of this forum that will vote with their feet if you cannot provide that environment. ~ Louie 3/2008 I never wanted to have anything to do with anything other then debating, the only reason any of this happened is because you refused to take action to deal with Wez.~ Louie 3/2008 Wez was being called out for his excessive and childish behavoir by more then just me, and not jusr eddo and brotherman either. Many people all saw Wez as a problem but you did nothing. When several of us started commenting to you about the need to take action, again you refused to act.~ Louie 3/2008 There have been complaints about Wez all over the forum, how is anyone supposed to know that you ignore complaints made on the open forum? ~ Louis I saw you edit several of Wez's posts right after he made them, you did not wait to see if someone would complain, that was the reason for me to ask you if you gave warnings for what you deleted. You replied that you do not make it official if someone does not complain.~ Louis At one point, most of the ones complaining stopped careing, they saw that Wez was still doing exactly what he has always done but your promises produced nothing but more failures.~ Louie if your looking for the reason I started pushing for you to deal with Wez was because you were not doing your job. If you had acted early on, none of this would have ever happened, but you can blame it all on me if it makes you feel better about yourself.~ Louie How many times do I have to say this, my actions were only made possible by your failure to deal with Wez. We cannot have a successful debating forum with someone running around spamming "I'm not you" in every thread. ~ Louis My complaint is not about the moderation so much as the lack of success.~ Louis No, I mean exactly what I said, lack of success, Wez is exactly the same now as he always was, he is even baiting me in this thread and on the shout box, but that does not count if someone does not complain right? ~ Louis So you call no change at all in Wez as a success? ~ Louie Now answer me this, if we use the ignore function, and you refuse to take action on Wez's bad bahavoir without a complaint, how do we complain if we don't see it? ~ Louis Your cure for the problem of Wez is the members must act like an ostrich? ~ Louie Bury our heads in the sand and pretend Wez does not exist? ~ Louie All I ever said was there was no change in what Wez was doing and that what had already been done was not working, it makes no difference who was doing it, it was unsuccessful. ~ Louie All anyone ever asked for was to deal with wez, while making members use the ignore feature can work for those members who want to stick around despite the mess caused by Wez, any new members will see his excessive personality and take off without taking the time to figure out how to ignore him. ~ Louie I can promise you this, as long as the rules are clear, I will never complain about a strict but fair set of rules, that is the way I run my forums. ~ Louie I as the last vestage of hope that something could be done never gave up, I guess my biggest problem was to care about this forum more then you cared about it.~ Louie I want to debate, not sit around a ghost town and to debate, we need people, people who will vote with their feet when faced with someone like Wez.~ Louis Let me give you a little advise, respect is earned, not taken by force.~ Louis --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hahahahahahaha ~ wez A mere drop in the bucket ~ wez No matter how many times you repeat something, the truth it does not make ~ wez What you hate is what you are and that is why you hate it ~ wez I'M NOT YOU! ~ wez

Lost For Words PINK FLOYD I was spending my time in the doldrums I was caught in the cauldron of hate I felt persecuted and paralyzed I thought that everything else would just wait While you are wasting your time on your enemies Engulfed in a fever of spite Beyond your tunnel vision reality fades Like shadows into the night To martyr yourself to caution Is not going to help at all Because there'll be no safety in numbers When the Right One walks out of the door Can you see your days blighted by darkness? Is it true you beat your fists on the floor? Stuck in a world of isolation While ivy grows over the door So I open my door to my enemies And I ask could we wipe the slate clean But they tell me to please go f ck myself You know you just can't win

Where the f ck did I ever say anything that you credited to me up there? Socialist laws are the way to go? Business owners shouldn't get to keep what they earn? I complain about people who work hard? Companies should be taken and given to the people? Your delusions are not my reality.. quit putting words and ideas in my mouth, dipsh t..

hahahaha.. you mean enforce the rules you demanded be created to deal with the "wez" problem? There was no f cking rules TJ!!! You demanding, whined, and cried them into existence.. Still wasn't good enough, was it? hahahaha.. Then when your own rules blew up in your face you cried foul.. too funny.. hahahaha.. You're the only one here that ever needed rules.. like every other control freak does. You are quite the piece of work.. why you're not a government spin doctor is beyond me.. the "rewards" would be endless!!! We destroyed your country, demolished your infrastructure, jailed our former yes man and installed a new puppet who outlawed your country from having a military, and now we have no choice but to maintain control to protect the Panama Canal from communists after we "give it back" at the turn of the century .. woe is us.. Once again for umpteenth time.. why do you see being negative repped as punishment? Do you base your self worth on your Off Topic Forum rep score? I'M NOT YOU Do and say whatever the f ck you want, moron.. I have no desire to control you.. besides, you make me laugh.

Errrrr.. no TJ.. I was making fun of you and being sarcastic.. are you really that dense? No, I am talking about your actions, you have already proven you say one thing and do another when it suits you so your comments are no longer worth paying attention to. You are now the bully you used to complain about Wez. Hypocrite. No.. once again you proved you are a hypocrite.. you think you're being punished/bullied by getting negative repped and cry about it yet you have no problem doing it to others times 10.. If I wanted to punish you I'd of joined the calls to ban your stoopid ass from this site many times over, like you've done to myself, which I thought was hilarious.. never had so much fun online as I did flouting your "authority".. I, as the last hope and vestige of this site care more about it than the admins ~ TJ hahahahaha.. what an idiot.. Bullies hate bullies, don't they, hypocrite? I'm not you.. cept to you and others like you.. Don't like it? Make another choice.. What you hate is what you are and that is why you hate it ~ wez