wez

Without a shred of emotion like a brainwashed, cold blooded killer? If one is void of emotion, they are dead.. emotions are ever present.. When they are surpressed, anger fills the void.

Hahahahaha... God help us.

Did you have thoughts of doing that to your ex wife and explaining it away for losing and having no control over your emotions?

TJ, you are talking about yourself. Good day and good night.

Are your emotions worthless to you? Abusive families suppress them until anger is the only one standing. Imagine not letting your child understand and express their emotions. Why do we have them for if not to use and understand them? Sad. I love my emotions. All of them. They tell me everything I need to know. There are no "bad' emotions. What a waste not to use your gifts. You are what you hate and that is why you hate it. ~ wez

Hey TJ, I was thinking.. You know how you're always saying we need to protect the weak? Yes? What if people such as yourself stopped proving to them that they're weak through anger, intimidation and hypocrisy and need any "protection" from those who they need protecting from? It's called extortion, check it out...

I spent 20 years with an abusive, angry woman. Then what are you? You're still stuck on something I said a month ago. What is my preset agenda? Where did I lie? I didn't say that's what soldiers are, you did. Soldiers are mainly good, young, highly impressionable people just starting out in life. Some places they are barely a teen. Some, single digits in age. I have nothing but love for the soldiers of the world. What's the debate? What are the legal and illegal ways to kill another human being? Where have I ever said that, to deny God, is to deny myself. What are you talking about? Is God American? What do you suggest? Thou shalt kill is out of the question. What do you suggest? Thou shalt kill is out of the question. What lies would those be, I never said soldiers were what you said they are. Why do you speak to me? Did you apologize to Jhony?

Just like your ex wife deserved what she got from you?

Proven wrong about what exactly? Jesus told the world about themselves, made them feel guilty, and was killed for it. Where did I reject God? Why do you bear false witness against me? No, I found it. What words of Jesus would you like to discuss? Lets face the reality of every word. I'm ready.

It's excellent.. Great lyrics too.. I absolutely love it... I'm gonna post the lyrics.. You Once Told Me Andain You once told me I will know it enough oh let me tell you something yeah I do you once told me I won't feel enough let me tell you that baby I do Sometimes I find myself in a sea in a dream that's so far away sometimes Tell me what's happened to me sometimes I see myself falling although I don't show it much sometimes I'm crazy for you well maybe I'm fine and tell me you're mine sometimes I find myself in a Sea.. in a dream that's so far away sometimes tell me what's happened to me Tell me baby can you hold me now we don't have to say it I feel it too and maybe I'm falling or maybe but I am not showing it much tell me baby can you see me now show me baby that I dont know how how can I start to see inside the fall but sometimes I find mysef in a sea in a dream that's so far away sometimes tell me what's happened to me In a sea, in a dream that's so far away sometimes tell me what's happened to me ....

Do I know you? What do you desire of me? You know, ridiculous anonymous person who gets a little chubby trolling on the internet who imagines he made some insignificant point, life wasn't always so sad and lonely. I had more friends than anyone I knew growing up. Life became sad and lonely when I became an adult and refused to trade my innocence and free will for a couple bucks and a few drinking buddies. If that's the price I pay, so be it... You don't need to worry about my penis, it's just fine. I don't want "superiority" over anyone, I'm a handful, I got enough to worry about without making myself responsible for anyone else to use as a scapegoat whom I can claim is me and punish without even knowing it. Plus, it's an illusion. Is your name "power"?

Love that song MM... Thanks for posting it. I never would have heard it otherwise.

I didn't really know about this til I followed that link and started reading. What a mess. That poor young girl. What a sh tty thing to do to anyone, especially a young girl. I'm sure it's not the first time someone committed suicide because of another persons deception online or in "real life". Just the first to get so much attention the way the nieghbor and "friend" was the culprit and the other circumstances. Apparently, the Drews even asked to store their foosball table at their house and after this happened, they smashed it and dumped it on the Drews lawn and the Drews pressed charges.. What amazes and disturbs me more is how many anonymous people out there have taken this story and made it their lifes mission to exact justice on Lori Drew, her Husband, and her family. When did everyone become God? Does it really make people feel better when someones life is destroyed? I'm sure she feels tremendous guilt for what she did and what happened despite popular opinion on that link. I think she knows it was wrong. What's she suppose to do? Enjoy being terrorized by the entire nation? Hang herself in public to satisfy the bloodlust of a sick society who will not rest until they have their "justice"? If charges can't be pressed for a crime, it's not up to anyone to exact "justice". No one knows how Lori Drews feels except Lori Drew. Her phone #, her husbands #, business #, address, house photo's, all the numbers of the businesses that advertised with her company.. unreal Lori Drews is obviously disturbed to do that to anyone, but she is not responsible for the young girls death. I wonder if any one of those vigilantes on that thread realize they are no better than her who they condemn, and are responsible for doing the same thing they are condemning her for? Doubt it.. tough to see when blinded by hate because ones own life is too painful to tend to.. It satisfies nothing in me to see Lori Drews family and children destroyed too.. Sick Sh t in a world of sick people, in my opinion.

Misery not only loves, but needs company, and they know how to get it. ~ wez The loving company of misery, is hate. ~ wez

Done playing the game with you to, boy, you decided the start time.. I decide when I stop.. Please carry on.. If you learned nothing today, you should look around again. Figure that out at your age, the sky is the limit. Peace, bro MAN.

However, you should all be able to see after the proceedings of the last few days and it's subsequent exposure as truth on this thread, http://Off Topic Forum.com/free-all/577-debate-over-tjs-debate-skills-new-post.html, It shows exactly why anyone in this world censors anyone and the common methods used to accomplish that. Fear through hypocrisy, intimidation, and mind f cks. Awsome post Ziraa... Maybe my favorite yet. I have nothing further to add. Debate with real life lessons.. Doesn't get any better than that.

There's already quite a few.. Sorry you got so offended at the magic 8 ball comment.. Hahahahahahaha

The title says it all... I think there is no truly "legal" way, as Jesus's law would see it. Which I believe what he spoke about were the natural laws that come from within that can guide a person to a fullfilling life of happiness. The Man "legal" and "illegal" ways, especially in the cases of war, are highly flawed and subjective to lean towards the Man with the bigger and better guns, in my opinion. In the case of self defense, I would trust my instincts. I'm not sure what I would do. I really would just be wanting to get away and out of danger I think. What does everyone see as "legal" and "illegal" when it comes to intentionally taking the life of another human being?

TJ, you were, are, and have been mad about that every time you've seen me since. Once again, you are personally attacking me because you disagree with me. There is no substance in anything you said to prove me a liar. You merely just keep repeating your accusations of me in the hopes of drawing the attention of anyone and everyone you can to validate your right to be angry with me. The mob has thus far reached 3. Perhaps if you repeat it long enough, the administration may get tired of all this mind f cking you are attempting and ban me. I've learned when enough is enough and I've had enough. I don't need to use anger, intimidation and mind f cks to validate my beliefs through other people. If you can't accept the way I feel about every military in this world and can't give me a valid debate, then it's over. I will not participate in your antics anymore as all I care to do is expose them (your antics), and then sit back and watch. Thanks for doing that for me. Feel free to personally attack me and derail every post I reply in, accuse me of being you, and cry to punish me for it. I will not be responding in kind anymore. "Legal and Illegal" depends on who has the bigger gun. To me, there is no "legal" way to intentionally take the life of another human being and I think Jesus would agree with me. Wouldn't you? How do they differ? Excellent topic.... Is that the only way to serve your country? I serve my country, and the world, as well as every individual in it the best I can. Perhaps you are not understanding what you are defending. Where did I lie? It is my belief.

yep.. I am, the truth shall set you free. Tough guy TJ, Junior, and eddo are cool and tough guy wez is a troll? Is that how that all works out.. Perhaps you should approach me differently in the future if you desire a different result, eh, tough guy?

You get what you give with me, f ckhead, try to intimidate me.. I'm immune. Kinda blows your whole world theory to sh t, doesn't it? I'm not afraid to die... get it? Getting rid of me and my beliefs on the militaries of the world from your personal view, will not make the beliefs go away.. I assure you, I'm not the only one.. Can't handle someone disagreeing with you? Army teach teach you how to try to mind f ck people into seeing things your way, or else? Good for you.

So that is where you are stuck and think you have a right to be angry with me and personally attack me and derail every thread and accuse me of being what you are and doing what you do? I offended you 3 weeks ago? Why didn't you say so.. I'll say it again. Get as pissed as you want, it was you who personally attacked me after that.. I was asking you about boot camp. Soldiers are trained to kill, first and formost. In order to accomplish that and perform on the field of battle and be able to kill another human being in cold blood, they must first undergo intense "training", do they not? Is individuality and getting in touch with your personal feelings of love and forgivness encouraged in the armed services? Those are good things, wouldn't you agree? I don't think they are encouraged, they are teaching people how to kill other people. Spaz away... hypocritize and personally attack me and derail every post on a chat forum while you accuse me of doing that to you.. You didn't even give me anything to disagree with. You personally attacked me because you disagreed with me and after 3 weeks or more, you finally admit it. Perhaps you'll stop now. I'm sorry I believe that, but your antics will not change that. Give a good reason why I should not think that.. You did the opposite, you gave me good reason to strengthen my belief in that. Thank you, I appreciate it.

Thank you fecky... I tire of defending myself against petty lies and hypocrisy wherever I go... I agree.

Here is TJ debating with Jhony, who thought a story about a stripper was questionable, who, by the way, never called TJ's honesty into question, or his integrity..... TJ's response tells me it may not be such a bad idea though..

I believe every word Jesus said.. And do you really feel the need to make personal attacks and false accusations in every thread on this forum and run around claiming it's someone else? Someone else being the person you do it to... F cking A moron... Get some help. Hahahahahaha