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Funny you mentioned Billy Graham.. "The very first act of the new Bush administration was to have a Protestant Evangelist minister officially dedicate the inauguration to Jesus Christ, whom he declared to be 'our savior.' Invoking 'the Father, the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ' and 'the Holy Spirit,' Billy Graham's son, the man selected by President George W Bush to bless his presidency, excluded the tens of millions of Americans who are Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Shintoists, Unitarians, agnostics, and atheists from his blessing by his particularistic and parochial language." The plain message conveyed by the new administration is that George W Bush's America is a Christian nation and that non-Christians are welcome into the tent so long as they agree to accept their status as a tolerated minority rather than as fully equal citizens. In effect, Bush is saying: 'This is our home, and in our home we pray to Jesus as our savior. If you want to be a guest in our home, you must accept the way we pray.'" -- Alan M Dershowitz, in "Bush Starts Off by Defying the the Constitution," Los Angeles Times, January 24, 2001 This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.-- George W Bush God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them. -- George W Bush To date, we've arrested or otherwise dealt with many key commanders of al Qaeda.... All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries. Many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this way -- they are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies. -- George W Bush "Suspected terrorists" ? Interesting.. The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain. Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty, have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them. -- George W Bush When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive.-- George W Bush [i encourage] employers to permit their workers time off during the lunch hour to attend the noontime services to pray for our land -- George W Bush We come before God to pray for the missing and the dead, and for those who loved them.... Our purpose as a nation is firm, yet our wounds as a people are recent and unhealed and lead us to pray.... This world he created is of moral design. Grief and tragedy and hatred are only for a time. Goodness, remembrance, and love have no end, and the Lord of life holds all who die and all who mourn.... Neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities, nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth can separate us from God's love. -- George W Bush Through my Faith-Based and Community Initiative, my Administration continues to encourage the essential work of faith-based and community organizations. Governments can and should support effective social services, including those provided by religious people and organizations. When government gives that support, it is important that faith-based institutions not be forced to change their religious character. -- George W Bush Tyrants and dictators will accept no other gods before them. They require disobedience to the First Commandment. They seek absolute control and are threatened by faith in God. They fear only the power they cannot possess -- the power of truth. So they resent the living example of the devout, especially the devotion of a unique people chosen by God. -- George W Bush I ask Americans to bow our heads in humility before our Heavenly Father, a God who calls us not to judge our neighbors, but to love them, to ask His guidance upon our nation and its leaders in every level of government. -- George W Bush That answer your question as to why? Apparently you missed a lot.. Need more? There's plenty.. Being that no one in our government feels it necessary to count the number of civilians killed, here is the best estimate from foreign sources found here.. Mind you, this is just Iraq for the last 7 years.. Even if our "crusaders" didn't directly kill each and every one, our presence there is fully responsible. http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ “We don’t do body counts” ~ General Tommy Franks Documented civilian deaths from violence 97,461 – 106,348 (2003 - 2010) How about I give you the chance to prove the greater total killed by "muslim extremists" than just those in the last 7 years in Iraq if you can.. go ahead.. I'll wait .. I hate the US? How ya figure? I'd lie to myself and others and try to create different terms and double standards to fool people into thinking I'm better than someone else if I didn't hate it? Maybe the difference is I don't hate muslims either, or excuse the actions of me and mine whilst judging, labeling, and looking down on others for a sliver of our log, like you. I'm with you or against you, George Jr.? Nope.. not yet..

I expect people not to f ck with the exterior of my vehicle and I'm sure I'm not alone. Then I'm sure you wont mind when I decide to use your windshield as a toilet.. hahahaha

Official United States Government Definition of Terrorism "[An] act of terrorism, means any activity that (A) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; and appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping." Gee.. kinda embarrassing that our government fits it's own definition of terrorists.. they've intended to intimidate and coerce many a civilian population, including their own.. they've influenced many a government policy by intimidation and coercion, and have tried to affect the conduct of governments by assassinations and kidnappings.. What should we do about it? Blame Islam?

The vehicle itself is private property even if it is parked in a public place. At minimum they should have a got a warrant just like they would need one to tap someones phone. That said.. I'm more worried about a police state where it's ok to invade peoples privacy even at the ok of a judge than I am people growing, selling, and smoking MJ..

hahahahaha.. and just what prompted our last 2 invasions and wars in Muslim countries? Possibly considered "hate crimes"? I still get warm fuzzies recalling Bush at ground zero.. I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you and the people!! -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon! ~ Cowboy George [attach=full]2894[/attach] Errrrrrr.. the people who knocked those buildings down are dead George.. aint gonna hear sh t.. Who's the fukkin' retard?

We Got the Whip Audioslave Oooooooooooh Oooooooooooh Oooooooooooh Oooooooooooh Long days and nights you fought for truth Gotta hand it to you Uprise and paid for in blood Only to love We're gonna hang you up You've got balls but..... We got the whip we got a better bomb We got the whip We got the whip we got a better bomb Oooooooooooh Oooooooooooh Heartache and strife is all you've known A slave since your youth And only one life to bargain with Admiration is due We're gonna string you up You've got balls but..... We got the whip we got a better bomb We got the whip We got the whip we got a better bomb Yeah Fearlessness in the face of death Pain with a smile Braving the fight until the end I know I will never be anything like you We got the whip we got a better bomb We got the whip We got the whip we got a better bomb

Well eddo.. I'd venture to guess that our country has killed exponentially more innocent people around the world in our military forays over the last 50 years than every "Islamic terroristic act" combined in the history of the world. Hell, make that the last 10 years in Afghanistan and Iraq alone.. Did either attack us and declare war on our country? I don't think so.. 16 of the people that flew planes into the trade center, as well as Bin Laden, came from Saudi Arabia.. what the hell are we doing? Should we pin it on Christianity? One's Islamic extremist terrorism and the other is what? Pick a word.. unfortunately, words don't fool me, so don't waste your time trying. Granted, we do it a lot prettier than someone strapping a bomb on their chest and blowing up a bus in Israel, but dead is dead, isn't it? Shock and awe on an entire city is good... flying planes into 3 buildings is bad? .. Is that how that works? Yep.. we've progressed alright.. into the most lethal, advanced killing machine ever known in the history of the world.. we should be proud.. not. Hey TJ.. now come explain how we only attack "military targets" (even though the claim is not the reality and you damn well know it). Be just as easy for them to claim they were also attacking military targets don't ya figure? After all, the plan was to destroy our economy, of which the economy and "money" is the only reason we've been sticking our nose and soldiers into their area of the world killing people and manipulating their politics since WWII, isn't it? Destroy our economy then sit back and watch us destroy ourselves.. seems they were successful so far.. The might = right of our military was no match for 19 morons.. here we are 10 years later still flailing around the middle east murdering people, going miles below broke, and trying to exact our revenge on 19 dead idiots... Brilliant.. Hypocrites stink..

Personally.. I could care less.. build it.. I'm smart enough to know that "Muslims" didn't attack the trade center.. 19 assholes did.. and they're dead.. Why connect a terrorist act with an entire race and religion? I think it would say a lot about our character as people to not condemn an entire culture for the choices of a few. Totally agree with everything Obama had to say about this.. I'd of been worried if he fed into the small minded, moronic, petty, ridiculous hate mongering. Why don't we just put up a military checkpoint and sign that says no Arabs allowed in Manhattan? That being said, people (many "Americans") are stupid and some will most likely turn to violence and commit terroristic acts upon it if they build it, somehow thinking they are morally justified in their terrorism and have the right to condemn/punish/kill/destroy/people and their property that had absolutely nothing to do with 19 idiots that flew planes into a skyscraper.. kinda like the redneck jackass who shot that guy from India after 9/11 because he thought he was arabic.. what a genius. I also think our country is guilty of a tad bit of terrorism ourselves throughout the world for the last 70 years.. people in glass houses and all that.. Should the world blame it on Christianity because that is the predominant religion around these parts? But I digress.. I guess it's not terrorism if ya put on a green camouflage outfit and have sophisticated weapons you can shoot/launch/drop from a safe distance to terrorize and intimidate people.. nor is it terrorism to covertly subvert legitimate governments in foreign countries to "secure resources", as our friend Fellatio would say.. oh.. wait.. yeah.. it is.. Real terrorists don't get their hands dirty.. hopefully someday the "muslims" will rise to our level and learn how to terrorize and control people properly, eh? What happened to the "melting pot", TJ?

Wow.. very cool pic IWS.. M27: Not a Comet Credit & Copyright: Matthew T. Russell [attach=full]1926[/attach] Explanation: While hunting for comets in the skies above 18th century France, astronomer Charles Messier diligently kept a list of the things he encountered that were definitely not comets. This is number 27 on his now famous not-a-comet list. In fact, 21st century astronomers would identify it as a planetary nebula, but it's not a planet either, even though it may appear round and planet-like in a small telescope. Messier 27 (M27) is an excellent example of a gaseous emission nebula created as a sun-like star runs out of nuclear fuel in its core. The nebula forms as the star's outer layers are expelled into space, with a visible glow generated by atoms excited by the dying star's intense but invisible ultraviolet light. Known by the popular name of the Dumbbell Nebula, the beautifully symmetric interstellar gas cloud is over 2.5 light-years across and about 1,200 light-years away in the constellation Vulpecula. This impressive color composite highlights details within the well-studied central region and fainter, seldom imaged features in the nebula's outer halo. It includes narrowband images recorded using filters sensitive to emission from oxygen atoms, shown in blue-green hues, and hydrogen atoms in red.

Hoag's Object: A Strange Ring Galaxy Credit: R. Lucas (STScI/AURA), Hubble Heritage Team, NASA [attach=full]1924[/attach] Explanation: Is this one galaxy or two? This question came to light in 1950 when astronomer Art Hoag chanced upon this unusual extragalactic object. On the outside is a ring dominated by bright blue stars, while near the center lies a ball of much redder stars that are likely much older. Between the two is a gap that appears almost completely dark. How Hoag's Object formed remains unknown, although similar objects have now been identified and collectively labeled as a form of ring galaxy. Genesis hypotheses include a galaxy collision billions of years ago and the gravitational affect of a central bar that has since vanished. The above photo taken by the Hubble Space Telescope in July 2001 reveals unprecedented details of Hoag's Object and may yield a better understanding. Hoag's Object spans about 100,000 light years and lies about 600 million light years away toward the constellation of the Snake (Serpens). Coincidentally, visible in the gap (at about one o'clock) is yet another ring galaxy that likely lies far in the distance.

Come Around Kim Richey I don't miss the good old days I've learned a lot since then I've changed my ways I'm not bothered by those things that used to get me down Only when you come around I don't carry much regret We all hold something that we'd just as soon forget I remember like it was today The love we found Every time you come around Every time you come around Well, I'm the first to say I should forget you And I wish I could But sometimes wishes don't come true Doesn't seem like much to ask To live a life that isn't caught up in the past But there's really no place else on earth For me right now I wish you'd come around I wish you'd come around Why don't you come around

Shimmer Shawn Mullins sharing with us what he knows shining eyes are big and blue and all around him water flows this world to him is new this world to him is new to touch a face to kiss a smile new eyes see no race the essence of a child the essence he's born to shimmer, he's born to shine he's born to radiate he's born to live, he's born to love but we'll teach him how to hate true love it is a rock smoothed over by a stream no ticking of a clock truly measures what that means truly measures what that means and this thing they call our time heard a brilliant woman say she said you know it's crazy how I want to try to capture mine I think I love this woman's way I think I love this woman's way she shimmers, the way she shines the way she radiates the way she lives, the way she loves the way she never hates sometimes I think of all of this that can surround me I know it all as being mine but she kisses me and wraps herself around me she gives me love, she gives me time and I feel fine I feel fine but time I cannot change so here's to looking back you know I drink a whole bottle of my pride and I toast to change to keep these demons off my back just get these demons off my back cause I want to shimmer, I want to shine I want to radiate I want to live, I want to love I want to try to learn not to hate try not to hate we're born to shimmer, we're born to shine we're born to radiate we're born to live, we're born to love we're born to never hate

Waiting for a Girl Like You Foreigner So long, I've been looking too hard, I've been waiting too long Sometimes I don't know what I will find, I only know it's a matter of time When you love someone, when you love someone It feels so right, so warm and true, I need to know if you feel it too Maybe I'm wrong, won't you tell me if I'm coming on too strong This heart of mine has been hurt before, this time I wanna be sure I've been waiting for a girl like you to come into my life I've been waiting for a girl like you, your loving will survive I've been waiting for someone new to make me feel alive Yeah, waiting for a girl like you to come into my life You're so good, when we make love it's understood It's more than a touch or a word can say Only in dreams could it be this way When you love someone, yeah, really love someone Now I know it's right, from the moment I wake up till deep in the night There's nowhere on earth that I'd rather be than holding you tenderly I've been waiting for a girl like you to come into my life I've been waiting for a girl like you, your loving will survive I've been waiting for someone new to make me feel alive Yeah, waiting for a girl like you to come into my life I've been waiting, waiting for you, ooh, I've been waiting I've been waiting (I've been waiting for a girl like you, I've been waiting) Won't you come into my life? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wITYgKqRb0Y

OK Alone Gabriel Mann I opened up your letter when things were looking good you said goodbye in glitter I guess I knew you would be the kind with hearts on her eye's you're the junior prom queen in disguise you can go now that I know that I will be ok alone I took you out to dinner romance and candlelight 2 pills and bottled water suppress your appetite it's the way your telephones ring when I'm sharing an epiphany you should go now that I know that I will be ok alone you made me feel like I was someone you loved for real but now I find that you're handing out your candy valentines all over town what a sweet letdown you made me feel like i was someone you loved for real but now i find that you're handing out your candy valentines all over town a repeat letdown so I tore up your letter I lit a cigarette no reason to remember so easy to forget all the times you straightened my hair now I stay home watching millionaire all day, I think I can say that I will be I will be ok alone you made me feel like I was someone you loved for real but now I find that you're handing out your candy valentines all over town well, I will be ok alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70Wn6r0vLY

Sorry to hear that snaf... Glad he didn't decide to go out in a blaze of glory and use those other 5 bullets first.. Hope you're doin' all right bud.. There's always better options than the one this guy chose, and no amount of retirement money, or anything else is worth non - existence. Life is short enough the way it is..

Life is good.. Favre tells teammates he's returning; flies back to Minnesota

Hey TJ.. I'm not you..

I Would Find You Journey Many days have faded away And the time has passed Those were memories That have been by so fast I can't see you I can't hear you But I feel you I would find you, well I would find you Well, I would find you, I would find you I would find you, I would find you, I would find you Now that we know that we've been there And the time is running out That message was from The Lord, without a doubt I can't see you I can't hear you But I feel you Could it be that I feel so all alone? It's you that's driving me mad Oh you won't leave me alone You have touched my soul Certainly you have touched my soul Now hear me Could it be that you feel so all alone? If it's me that's driving you mad Oh, I would leave you alone Oh yes, I would https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-AL5qUM6Eo

That's awesome.. always good to see someone turn their life around. What you did was probably the nicest thing anyone ever did for her.. so cool that you ran into her and she let you know that. Have fun camping!!!

Happy B day snaf.. have a good one..

[attach=full]2872[/attach] Volume VI, No. 10, October 1988 The Sad Legacy of Ronald Reagan by Sheldon L. Richman In 1980, Jimmy Carter's last year as president, the federal government spent a whopping 27.9% of "national income" (an obnoxious term for the private wealth produced by the American people). Reagan assaulted the free-spending Carter administration throughout his campaign in 1980. So how did the Reagan administration do? At the end of the first quarter of 1988, federal spending accounted for 28.7% of "national income." Even Ford and Carter did a better job at cutting government. Their combined presidential terms account for an increase of 1.4%—compared with Reagan's 3%—in the government's take of "national income." And in nominal terms, there has been a 60% increase in government spending, thanks mainly to Reagan's requested budgets, which were only marginally smaller than the spending Congress voted. The result has been unprecedented government debt. Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight. The Sad Legacy of Ronald Reagan

Well said teach.. indeed.. both parties suck.. always have, always will. . Lookit' Ronnie "big talk" Reagan shrink government.. yee haw.. National Debt Graph: The Deficit is Medicine

Well, when robber barons are given all the stimulus as a bonus for raping the country for the previous decade to continue "business" as usual, good things can't be expected. Hardly Obama's fault there eddo.. How about I leave you a mountain of sh t and blame you for not cleaning it up in 2 days? Everything was so great before Obama right? Yep.. your house was overvalued by 75% .. good times.. good times.. Obama ruined it all.. Not only that, but it's wise to understand that government policies don't really show their true colors for decades sometimes.. if ya wanna blame someone, blame Ronnie "big government" Reagan.. this is the result of "trickle down economics" and the deregulation of everything. Senile actors make great prezzes!

Black Gives Way to Blue Alice in Chains I don't wanna feel no more It's easier to keep falling Imitations are pale Emptiness all tomorrows Haunted by your ghost Lay down, black gives way to blue Lay down, I'll remember you Fading out by design Consciously avoiding changes Curtains drawn now it's done Silencing all tomorrows Forcing a goodbye Lay down, black gives way to blue Lay down, I'll remember you...

I wont begrudge a man for hope.. ya never know.. anythings possible You go girl.. That's funny.. some friends of mine actually did that with the Twins twice before the season started.. 87' and 91' .. the only years they did it.. and the only years they won the world series.. not sure what the odds were but they were high..