47 reasons to distance yourself from the Clintons

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47 reasons to distance yourself from the Clintons


Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what hashappened to many
'friends' of the Clinton's


1- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted White water partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement He was a key
witness in Ken Starr's investigation.


2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997
at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just
after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the
White House. Lesbian Hillary was sexually harassing her.


3 - Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of
Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot
wound to the head, ruled a suicide.


4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was
being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a
deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died.
A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.


5 - C. Victor Raiser II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992


6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director
found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described
by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor"


7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in
the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey
was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.


8 - Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in
Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection
outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a
dossier on Clinton .. He allegedly threatened to reveal this house.


9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
had a 'Black Book' of people which contained names of influential
people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas ..


10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent
hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.


11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed
suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-
defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy
Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.


12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy
Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found
dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the
grave site of his fiance.


13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was
a convicted drug distributor.


14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal Mean Airport drug smuggling case. He died of
three gunshot wounds.


15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he
was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of
the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.


16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.


17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mean
Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his
wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.


18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
with Casolaro and the 1980 'October Surprise' was found dead on a
toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington , DC apartment. Had delivered a
report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.


19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment
balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty
scandal.


20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with
Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the
Department of Commerce.


21 - Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John
Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small
plane crash.


22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health
Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a
small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's
advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and
brother.


23 - Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was
no accident.


24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found
dead after his car had hit a utility pole.


25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.


26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,
1994 when his plane exploded.


27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as 'The boys on the track case.'
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport
drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death
said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim
the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many
linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a
Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:


28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, 7/88.


29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988


30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.


31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash
dump in April 1989.


33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his
death was due to 'natural causes'.


34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of
his pickup truck in June 1990.


35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was
killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.


THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:


36 - Major William S. Barkley J


37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds


38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley


39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel


40 - Major General William Robertson


41 - Col. William Densberger


42 - Col. Robert Kelly


43 - Spec. Gar y Rhodes


44 - Steve Willis


45 - Robert Williams


46 - Conway LeBleu


47 - Todd McKeehan
 
robertrice@rogers.com wrote:
> On Feb 17, 1:56 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 1:50 pm, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
>>
>> [ Nothing of any consequence. ]
>>
>> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>> nonsense time and again.
>>
>> Of course, you rightwankers never let facts get in the way.

>
> Please get it debunked then, I'd like to see that. Are they all still
> alive or something?
>
> I'm not a right winger either. Just an astute observer.
>
> And from everything I've seen, the Clintons are most decidedly NOT
> good people,


Yes, but both Bill and Hillary was a close friend of Vince foster and
there is no evidence the Clintons were involved. Mary McDougal was not
being harassed by Hillary, but she did have knowledge of the Lewinsky
affair. How many Republicans have died while Bush was president. Did he
kill all of them?

--
McCain on the Iraq War
McCain said winning the war would be
 
robertrice@rogers.com wrote:

> On Feb 17, 1:56 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 17, 1:50 pm, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
>>
>>[ Nothing of any consequence. ]
>>
>>This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>>nonsense time and again.
>>
>>Of course, you rightwankers never let facts get in the way.

>
>
> Please get it debunked then, I'd like to see that.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
 
And what did the Starr report conclude about all this?

Answer: nothing.


<robertrice@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> 47 reasons to distance yourself from the Clintons
>
>
> Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what hashappened to many
> 'friends' of the Clinton's
>
>
> 1- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted White water partner died of an
> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement He was a key
> witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
>
>
> 2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997
> at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just
> after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the
> White House. Lesbian Hillary was sexually harassing her.
>
>
> 3 - Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of
> Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot
> wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
>
>
> 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
> to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
> skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was
> being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a
> deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died.
> A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
>
>
> 5 - C. Victor Raiser II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
> raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
>
>
> 6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director
> found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described
> by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor"
>
>
> 7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in
> the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
> Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
> Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey
> was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
>
>
> 8 - Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in
> Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection
> outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a
> dossier on Clinton .. He allegedly threatened to reveal this house.
>
>
> 9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
> had a 'Black Book' of people which contained names of influential
> people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas ..
>
>
> 10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent
> hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
>
>
> 11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
> found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
> It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed
> suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-
> defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy
> Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
>
>
> 12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy
> Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found
> dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the
> grave site of his fiance.
>
>
> 13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was
> a convicted drug distributor.
>
>
> 14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the CIA, was
> related to the Barry Seal Mean Airport drug smuggling case. He died of
> three gunshot wounds.
>
>
> 15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he
> was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of
> the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
>
>
> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
>
>
> 17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mean
> Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his
> wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
>
>
> 18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
> with Casolaro and the 1980 'October Surprise' was found dead on a
> toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington , DC apartment. Had delivered a
> report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
>
>
> 19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
> Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment
> balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty
> scandal.
>
>
> 20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with
> Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
> 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the
> Department of Commerce.
>
>
> 21 - Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John
> Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small
> plane crash.
>
>
> 22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health
> Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a
> small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's
> advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and
> brother.
>
>
> 23 - Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was
> no accident.
>
>
> 24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
> Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found
> dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
>
>
> 25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>
>
> 26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,
> 1994 when his plane exploded.
>
>
> 27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as 'The boys on the track case.'
> Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport
> drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death
> said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim
> the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many
> linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a
> Grand Jury.
>
>
> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
>
>
> 28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
> truck, 7/88.
>
>
> 29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
>
>
> 30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
>
>
> 31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash
> dump in April 1989.
>
>
> 33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his
> death was due to 'natural causes'.
>
>
> 34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of
> his pickup truck in June 1990.
>
>
> 35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was
> killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
>
>
> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
>
>
> 36 - Major William S. Barkley J
>
>
> 37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
>
>
> 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
>
>
> 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
>
>
> 40 - Major General William Robertson
>
>
> 41 - Col. William Densberger
>
>
> 42 - Col. Robert Kelly
>
>
> 43 - Spec. Gar y Rhodes
>
>
> 44 - Steve Willis
>
>
> 45 - Robert Williams
>
>
> 46 - Conway LeBleu
>
>
> 47 - Todd McKeehan
 
All these people gone and the Starr report came to what conclusion?


<robertrice@rogers.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 17, 1:56 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 17, 1:50 pm, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
>
> [ Nothing of any consequence. ]
>
> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> nonsense time and again.
>
> Of course, you rightwankers never let facts get in the way.


Please get it debunked then, I'd like to see that. Are they all still
alive or something?

I'm not a right winger either. Just an astute observer.

And from everything I've seen, the Clintons are most decidedly NOT
good people,
 
On Feb 17, 1:18 pm, Middle Class Warrior
<middle_class_warri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 1:56 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
> > <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 17, 1:50 pm, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:

>
> >> [ Nothing of any consequence. ]

>
> >> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> >> nonsense time and again.

>
> >> Of course, you rightwankers never let facts get in the way.

>
> > Please get it debunked then, I'd like to see that. Are they all still
> > alive or something?

>
> > I'm not a right winger either. Just an astute observer.

>
> > And from everything I've seen, the Clintons are most decidedly NOT
> > good people,

>
> Yes, but both Bill and Hillary was a close friend of Vince foster and
> there is no evidence the Clintons were involved. Mary McDougal was not
> being harassed by Hillary, but she did have knowledge of the Lewinsky
> affair. How many Republicans have died while Bush was president. Did he
> kill all of them?
>
> --
> McCain on the Iraq War
> McCain said winning the war would be "easy." "I know that as
> successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will
> be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women."
> [CNN, 9/24/02]
> At the 2004 Republican National Convention, McCain, focusing on the
> war in Iraq, said that while weapons of mass destruction were not found,
> Saddam once had them and "he would have acquired them again."
> "Make it a hundred" years in Iraq and "that would be fine with me."
> [Derry, New Hampshire Town Hall meeting, 1/3/08]
> "Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war."
> McCain on how long troops may remain in Iraq: "A thousand years. A
> million years. Ten million years. It depends on the arrangement we have
> with the Iraqi government." [Associated Press, 1/04/08]
> McCain on Bush tax cuts
> "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of
> the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle
> class Americans who most need tax relief (2001)."
> "But when you look at the percentage of the tax cuts that--as the
> previous tax cuts--that go to the wealthiest Americans, you will find
> that the bulk of it, again, goes to wealthiest Americans. ... A lot of
> Americans now are paying a very large a--low and middle-income Americans
> are paying a significantly larger amount of their income in taxes. I'd
> like to see them get the bulk of the relief (2003)."
> Promised to make the same Bush tax cuts he once opposed permanent
> (2008).
> McCain on Healthcare
> John McCain supported President Bush's veto of health care for 10
> million children.
> McCain on evolution
> "I believe in evolution."
> McCain on Iran
> "My greatest fear is the Iranians acquire a nuclear weapon and give it
> to a terrorist organization. And there is a real threat of them doing
> that."
> McCain on Chairman Mao
> "Remember the words of Chairman Mao: 'It's always darkest before it's
> totally black."
> McCain of Family Values
> "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and
> immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by
> pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."
> MCCain on the Keating 5 scandal
> "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group
> of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it
> conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the
> wrong thing to do."
> McCain on torture
> "Waterboarding is a form of torture no matter how it is done and
> should be a prohibited among U.S. military interrogation practices . . ."
> McCain on economics
> "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do
> about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."
> McCain on the Clintons
> "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her
> father."
> McCain on immigration reform
> "F k you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room."
> McCain on Aging
> "I'm older than dirt, I've got more scars than Frankenstein, but I've
> learned a few things along the way."
> McCain on the Estate tax
> "I am concerned that repeal of the estate tax would provide massive
> benefits solely to the wealthiest and highest-income taxpayers in the
> country. A Treasury Department study found that almost no estate tax has
> been paid by lower- and middle-income taxpayers. But taxes have been
> paid on the estates of people who were in the highest 20% of the income
> distribution at the time of their death. It found that
> 91% of all estate taxes are paid by the estates of people whose annual
> income exceeded $190,000 around the time of their death."
> Cindy McCain on political payback
> "Cindy recently admitted that she keeps a "grudge list".


I'm a Republican. Please don't ask me to defend Capt. Queeg. It's like
this. If Obama gets elected, a likely possibility at this point, Iran
will kill us all with EMP nukes.

Same thing with Hillary.

If Capt Queeg gets elected, he'll wipe out Iran. Sounds good.
Meanwhile, we'll have 100 million 4th grade educated Mexicans here
turning the US into a lawless slum.

So with McCain the US dies more slowly. That's all.
 
"Kelley Eidem" <awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> I'm a Republican. Please don't ask me to defend Capt. Queeg. It's like
> this. If Obama gets elected, a likely possibility at this point, Iran
> will kill us all with EMP nukes.


They have no such technology to do this.If they build a few nukes, they have
to be able to deliver them.I dont think Isael will let them get that far.

>
> Same thing with Hillary.
>
> If Capt Queeg gets elected, he'll wipe out Iran. Sounds good.
> Meanwhile, we'll have 100 million 4th grade educated Mexicans here
> turning the US into a lawless slum.
>
> So with McCain the US dies more slowly. That's all.


If Ahmedinejad doesnt play his cards right, the Ayatollah might sack him.


Ironically, Mr Ahmadinejad's position inside the country has become more
precarious since the publication of a US intelligence report in December
suggesting that Iran was no longer pursuing a nuclear weapons programme.

That report took some of the heat out of Iran's nuclear dispute with the
West, and Mr Ahmadinejad consequently lost one of his strongest cards to
mobilise his supporters and to overshadow his internal problems.

In Iran's multi-layered and complicated political structure, the president
is not the most powerful man.

That status is reserved for the supreme leader, currently Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7204590.stm
 
<robertrice@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>On Feb 17, 2:47 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
>> > On Feb 17, 1:56 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
>> > <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> >>On Feb 17, 1:50 pm, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:

>>
>> >>[ Nothing of any consequence. ]

>>
>> >>This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>> >>nonsense time and again.

>>
>> >>Of course, you rightwankers never let facts get in the way.

>>
>> > Please get it debunked then, I'd like to see that.

>>
>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

>
>Thank you. It still seems suspicious though all those deaths of people
>very closely associated with the Clintons. I don't feel that debunk
>fully debunked the issue.


That's because you're a dipshit Reichtard who will parrot out any half-baked
bullshit that sounds good to you, regardless of truth, reality, or common
sense. Now certainly there are a few left-leaning dipshits, equally as
moronic as you who will parrot out equally slanted bullshit in the opposite
direction. The difference is not only are dipshit Reichtards who parrot out
such bullshit widely accepted into the Repugnant mainstream (i.e. Limpballs,
Dildo O'Reilley, Michael Wiener, etc.), Repugnants will gladly elect such
tin-foil hat morons (i.e. Rep. William Dannemeyer (R-CA) who started this
bullshit in the first place).

>Clinton is a known Satanist, friends with Bush Sr. and those types. I
>wouldn't put anything past him..


You're a known moron, but thanks for posting and once again proving the
rampant idiocy that thrives on the right.

Have a nice day.
 
Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:

> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> nonsense time and again.


All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
controlled Congres and Senate did.

The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
and senate to keep them in check. We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
of his presidency. The biggest tax increase in the history of the
planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class") an
attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care), and
an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
small percentage of weapons used to commit murder). I hate to think what
he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
destruction of evidence which is a felony.
 
The Vince Foster event was investigated by Ken Starr.

What were the findings???


"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
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> Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> > nonsense time and again.

>
> All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
> guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
> their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
> Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
> Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
> experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
> Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
> experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
> the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
> entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
> the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
> attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
> controlled Congres and Senate did.
>
> The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
> and senate to keep them in check. We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
> his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
> of his presidency. The biggest tax increase in the history of the
> planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class") an
> attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
> arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care), and
> an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
> small percentage of weapons used to commit murder). I hate to think what
> he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
> the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
> for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
> the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
> destruction of evidence which is a felony.
>
>
 
"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
news:1icgp2t.meh0evnilh2mN%nospam@noway.net...
> Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>> nonsense time and again.

>
> All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
> guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
> their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
> Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
> Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
> experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
> Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
> experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
> the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
> entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
> the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
> attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
> controlled Congres and Senate did.


Rarely have I seen more tin-foil hat bullshit in one place.


> The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
> and senate to keep them in check.


You mean the same one that failed to pass even 1/10th of their famous,
"Contract on America"?

Too ****ing funny.

> We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
> his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
> of his presidency.


The Deficit Reduction Act of 1993, which has been credited as the major
piece of legislation which lead to the greatest period of economic expansion
in American history was passed without a single Republican vote.

> The biggest tax increase in the history of the
> planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class")


You mean the one that raised taxes on ONLY the richest 2% of Americans? Try
comparing that to no less than 7 MAJOR tax increases signed by Raygun (and 1
more signed by "read my lips" Bush Sr.) which actually did raise taxes on
the middle class.

It wasn't the biggest tax increase in history, either, unless you buy into
Reichtard spin (AKA bullshit) which fails to take into account inflation.
Using standards more commonly used by grown ups and those who have an IQ
north of room temperature, Raygun's 1982 tax increase was larger (by far),
and it still wasn't the "biggest".

> an
> attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
> arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care),


Meanwhile the Republicans have allowed the US to spend more on healthcare
than any other nation in the G-8 (by far), while simultaneously having the
worst health care of any other nation in the G-8 (by far).

> and
> an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
> small percentage of weapons used to commit murder).


Perhaps you should try actually reading the Brady Bill sometime. While
you're at it, you might do a bit more research and you'd find most Americans
support stronger gun control laws (by far), but naturally you won't because
you're a Reichtard.

> I hate to think what
> he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
> the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
> for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
> the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
> destruction of evidence which is a felony.


No, actually they just call dipshits like you, a dipshit.

Investigators for the state of Texas (which, of course, is a far left
leaning state, donchaknow), concluded conclusively that Koresh had a
stockpile of illegal weapons, was repeatedly raping children, set the fires
which destroyed the compound, and killed many of their own members by their
own weapons fired at point blank range. Furthermore Special Counsel
Danforth (a Republican) concluded with "certainty" that the allegations the
government started the fire were meritless.

The government of the United States and its agents are not responsible for
the

April 19, 1993, tragedy at Waco. The government:

(a) did not cause the fire;

(b) did not direct gunfire at the Branch Davidian complex; and

(c) did not improperly employ the armed forces of the United States.

Responsibility for the tragedy of Waco rests with certain of the Branch
Davidians and

their leader, Vernon Howell, also known as David Koresh, who:

(a) shot and killed four ATF agents on February 28, 1993, and wounded 20
others;

(b) refused to exit the complex peacefully during the 51-day standoff that
followed

the ATF raid despite extensive efforts and concessions by negotiators for
the

Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI");

(c) directed gunfire at FBI agents who were inserting tear gas into the
complex on

April 19, 1993;

(d) spread fuel throughout the main structure of the complex and ignited it
in at least

three places causing the fire which resulted in the deaths of those Branch

Davidians not killed by their own gunfire; and

(e) killed some of their own people by gunfire, including at least five
children.

http://www.waco93.com/Danforth-finalreport.pdf

But Reichtards like you will always believe what you want to believe,
regardless of truth, proof, unbiased investigations, sound reasoning, and
good sense.

Have a nice day.
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Vince Foster event was investigated by Ken Starr.
>
> What were the findings???


Not just 1, but 3 (yes more than 2, less than 4) OFFICIAL investigations
(including Starr's) ALL concluded the exact same thing which was that Foster
committed suicide. Yet you still have mindless dipshits like the previous
poster who still to this day have their thumb up their ass as they squeek
their pathetic bullshit. But once again the mindless dipshit poster known
simply as "Ralph" proves conclusively that a high percentage of dipshit
Reichtards are still fully willing to provide proof of their own idiocy by
parroting out silly bullshit which has been soundly debunked over, and over,
and over again.




>
>
> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:1icgp2t.meh0evnilh2mN%nospam@noway.net...
>> Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>> > nonsense time and again.

>>
>> All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
>> guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
>> their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
>> Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
>> Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
>> experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
>> Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
>> experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
>> the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
>> entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
>> the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
>> attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
>> controlled Congres and Senate did.
>>
>> The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
>> and senate to keep them in check. We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
>> his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
>> of his presidency. The biggest tax increase in the history of the
>> planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class") an
>> attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
>> arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care), and
>> an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
>> small percentage of weapons used to commit murder). I hate to think what
>> he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
>> the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
>> for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
>> the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
>> destruction of evidence which is a felony.
>>
>>

>
>
 
robw <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Vince Foster event was investigated by Ken Starr.
>
> What were the findings???


They found that the Clintons had so much political backing that they can
get away with murder.

> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:1icgp2t.meh0evnilh2mN%nospam@noway.net...
> > Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> > > nonsense time and again.

> >
> > All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
> > guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
> > their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
> > Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
> > Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
> > experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
> > Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
> > experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
> > the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
> > entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
> > the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
> > attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
> > controlled Congres and Senate did.
> >
> > The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
> > and senate to keep them in check. We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
> > his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
> > of his presidency. The biggest tax increase in the history of the
> > planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class") an
> > attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
> > arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care), and
> > an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
> > small percentage of weapons used to commit murder). I hate to think what
> > he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
> > the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
> > for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
> > the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
> > destruction of evidence which is a felony.
> >
> >
 
Nebuchadnezzar II <nebuchadnezzar@microsoft.com> wrote:

> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:1icgp2t.meh0evnilh2mN%nospam@noway.net...
> > Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
> >> nonsense time and again.

> >
> > All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton body
> > guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
> > their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of Bill
> > Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
> > Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
> > experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
> > Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
> > experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office in
> > the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of Foster
> > entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
> > the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a partisan
> > attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
> > controlled Congres and Senate did.

>
> Rarely have I seen more tin-foil hat bullshit in one place.
>
>
> > The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
> > and senate to keep them in check.

>
> You mean the same one that failed to pass even 1/10th of their famous,
> "Contract on America"?


Some did manage to get past Clinton's veto including the "The Fiscal
Responsibility Act" which requires a balanced budget which Clinton got
credit for.

> Too ****ing funny.
>
> > We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
> > his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
> > of his presidency.

>
> The Deficit Reduction Act of 1993, which has been credited as the major
> piece of legislation which lead to the greatest period of economic expansion
> in American history was passed without a single Republican vote.
>
> > The biggest tax increase in the history of the
> > planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class")

>
> You mean the one that raised taxes on ONLY the richest 2% of Americans?


The richest Americans are those who own the Federal Reserve which is a
privately owned bank that creates money out of nothing, then loans it
out at interest. The richest Americans tax you in the form of inflation.
They own controlling interest in all major media outlets, which is why
they harp on "tax cuts for the rich".

> Try
> comparing that to no less than 7 MAJOR tax increases signed by Raygun (and 1
> more signed by "read my lips" Bush Sr.) which actually did raise taxes on
> the middle class.
>
> It wasn't the biggest tax increase in history, either, unless you buy into
> Reichtard spin (AKA bullshit) which fails to take into account inflation.
> Using standards more commonly used by grown ups and those who have an IQ
> north of room temperature, Raygun's 1982 tax increase was larger (by far),
> and it still wasn't the "biggest".


Wrong.

> > an
> > attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
> > arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care),

>
> Meanwhile the Republicans have allowed the US to spend more on healthcare
> than any other nation in the G-8 (by far), while simultaneously having the
> worst health care of any other nation in the G-8 (by far).
>
> > and
> > an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a very
> > small percentage of weapons used to commit murder).

>
> Perhaps you should try actually reading the Brady Bill sometime. While
> you're at it, you might do a bit more research and you'd find most Americans
> support stronger gun control laws (by far), but naturally you won't because
> you're a Reichtard.


When Bill Clinton took credit for falling murder rates only about 1 or 2
people had actually been prosicuted under that Brady Bill. Meanwhile the
states had spent huge amount of money building more prisons.

> > I hate to think what
> > he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
> > the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
> > for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
> > the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
> > destruction of evidence which is a felony.

>
> No, actually they just call dipshits like you, a dipshit.
>
> Investigators for the state of Texas (which, of course, is a far left
> leaning state, donchaknow), concluded conclusively that Koresh had a
> stockpile of illegal weapons, was repeatedly raping children, set the fires
> which destroyed the compound, and killed many of their own members by their
> own weapons fired at point blank range.


Bullshit. The local sheriff had been out there several times and never
found anything wrong. The BATF has no jurisdiction over child abuse
anyway. It was a smoke screen to cover their asses.

> Furthermore Special Counsel
> Danforth (a Republican) concluded with "certainty" that the allegations the
> government started the fire were meritless.


I watched congressional hearings on the raid at Waco. Democrats defended
the Reno and the agents tooth and nail. Did you know the agents fired
over the incident were rehired and given desk jobs at the BATF a week or
two later?

> The government of the United States and its agents are not responsible for
> the
>
> April 19, 1993, tragedy at Waco. The government:
>
> (a) did not cause the fire;


Yes they did. What should have been done is the agents should have been
pulled out and replaced. Then the Davidians would have been much more
likely to give up. But the agents couldn't do that because there was too
much evidence in the complex to incriminate them.

> (b) did not direct gunfire at the Branch Davidian complex; and


Footage clearly showed the front of that building was riddled with
bullet holes, yet the Davidians' cars the agents took cover behind
didn't show a single bullet hole. All the windows were completely
intact. The agents destroyed the cars because they showed the battle was
very lopsided.

> (c) did not improperly employ the armed forces of the United States.


They had military helicopters there with mounted machine guns. There is
some homemade footage showing

> Responsibility for the tragedy of Waco rests with certain of the Branch
> Davidians and
>
> their leader, Vernon Howell, also known as David Koresh, who:
>
> (a) shot and killed four ATF agents on February 28, 1993, and wounded 20
> others;


The battle ended when the agents ran out of bullets. Curious, huh?

> (b) refused to exit the complex peacefully during the 51-day standoff that
> followed


They were being shot at. The couldn't get out. Couldn't communicate out.
They hung a sign out the window saying "we want the press" and the press
made fun of them with a chant on TV saying, "God help us. We are the
press!" Freekin idiots. The BATF did allow Koresh to talk to a radio
station, but it wasn't an interview, but a sermon. It's likely the
police either intercepted the call or faked it with a tape of one of
Koresh's sermons. You really believe after being trapped and begging to
talk to the press that Koresh would give yet another sermon? The police
in this case are soo freekin guilty, especially those in charge.

> the ATF raid despite extensive efforts and concessions by negotiators for
> the
>
> Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI");
>
> (c) directed gunfire at FBI agents who were inserting tear gas into the
> complex on
>
> April 19, 1993;
>
> (d) spread fuel throughout the main structure of the complex and ignited it
> in at least
>
> three places causing the fire which resulted in the deaths of those Branch


Amazing how the tanks just happened to break a hole through through the
wall at the same places.

> Davidians not killed by their own gunfire; and


Autopsy photos are much more revealing than the government's version.
Make your own determination:

http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/2/2_pix.html
http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/33/33_pix.html
http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/36/36_pix.html

These and others found here:
http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/map/d_list00.htm
l

Remember this was a two story wooden structure, yet they look like they
came from the a fire and collapse of a 10 story concrete building.
There's little doubt they were run over by a tank most certainly in the
act of destroying evidence. By the time that anyone in the press or
private investigators were allowed access the site the only thing left
was a concrete slab. The crime scene was completely cleaned up.

> (e) killed some of their own people by gunfire, including at least five
> children.


They had three choices:

1) get shot by agents (if they weren't already trapped in the fire)
2) burn to death.
3) commit suicide.

Did you know people will jump from a tall building when on fire? Crazy,
isn't it?

By the way, did police check the ballistics of their own guns to see
where the bullets that hit themselves might have come from? Hummmmmm?


> http://www.waco93.com/Danforth-finalreport.pdf


That's so mired in politics. If the truth were known it would have
destroyed Reno and the Clinton presidency along with her.

> But Reichtards like you will always believe what you want to believe,
> regardless of truth, proof, unbiased investigations, sound reasoning, and
> good sense.
>
> Have a nice day.


There's lots of evidence that incriminates the agents. One of these
videos shows a home made clip by a solder bragging on another in uniform
sitting in a military helicopter with a mounted M-60 machine gun who
responds, "Honed, honed to a fine edge."
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=waco&hl=en&sitesearch=
 
Nebuchadnezzar II <nebuchadnezzar@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Yet you still have mindless dipshits like the previous
> poster who still to this day have their thumb up their ass as they squeek
> their pathetic bullshit. But once again the mindless dipshit poster known
> simply as "Ralph" proves conclusively that a high percentage of dipshit
> Reichtards are still fully willing to provide proof of their own idiocy....


Well, you sound like real treasure.

== PLOINK ==
 
"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
news:1icgtzf.6k4m441j8bcilN%nospam@noway.net...
> Nebuchadnezzar II <nebuchadnezzar@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message
>> news:1icgp2t.meh0evnilh2mN%nospam@noway.net...
>> > Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This "Clinton body count" **** has been shown to be pure myth and
>> >> nonsense time and again.
>> >
>> > All four agents killed at the raid at Waco, TX were ex-Bill Clinton
>> > body
>> > guards. Vince Foster was a lawyer for the Clintons, involved of many of
>> > their affairs going way back. Foster was even a childhood friend of
>> > Bill
>> > Cliknton. He knew a lot of their dirty little secrets. The night Vince
>> > Foster died Whitehouse staff cleaned out his office. Even safe cracking
>> > experts were called in to open Vince Foster's safe THAT NIGHT. Bill
>> > Clinton fired the head of the FBI the day before. Four hand writing
>> > experts found that his "suicide note" found torn up inside his office
>> > in
>> > the whitehouse was a forgery. Whitehouse security had a record of
>> > Foster
>> > entering the Whitehouse, but not leaving. Had Clinton been a Republican
>> > the press would have eaten him alive. Instead they spun it as a
>> > partisan
>> > attack while giving credit to Bill Clinton for what a Republican
>> > controlled Congres and Senate did.

>>
>> Rarely have I seen more tin-foil hat bullshit in one place.
>>
>>
>> > The best thing about the Clintons was a republican controlled congress
>> > and senate to keep them in check.

>>
>> You mean the same one that failed to pass even 1/10th of their famous,
>> "Contract on America"?

>
> Some did manage to get past Clinton's veto including the "The Fiscal
> Responsibility Act" which requires a balanced budget which Clinton got
> credit for.


It wasn't part of the "Contract on America", sparky, and furthermore the
deficit was already almost completely eliminated by that time.

http://www.commonsensedemocracy.com/postimages/deficit.gif

Try again.

>
>> Too ****ing funny.
>>
>> > We saw what Bill Clinton was like when
>> > his party had control of congress and the senate in the first two years
>> > of his presidency.

>>
>> The Deficit Reduction Act of 1993, which has been credited as the major
>> piece of legislation which lead to the greatest period of economic
>> expansion
>> in American history was passed without a single Republican vote.
>>
>> > The biggest tax increase in the history of the
>> > planet, ("i didn't say I wouldn't RAISE taxes on the middle class")

>>
>> You mean the one that raised taxes on ONLY the richest 2% of Americans?

>
> The richest Americans are those who own the Federal Reserve which is a
> privately owned bank that creates money out of nothing, then loans it
> out at interest. The richest Americans tax you in the form of inflation.
> They own controlling interest in all major media outlets, which is why
> they harp on "tax cuts for the rich".


You either need to lay off the drugs or take more of them.

>
>> Try
>> comparing that to no less than 7 MAJOR tax increases signed by Raygun
>> (and 1
>> more signed by "read my lips" Bush Sr.) which actually did raise taxes on
>> the middle class.
>>
>> It wasn't the biggest tax increase in history, either, unless you buy
>> into
>> Reichtard spin (AKA bullshit) which fails to take into account inflation.
>> Using standards more commonly used by grown ups and those who have an IQ
>> north of room temperature, Raygun's 1982 tax increase was larger (by
>> far),
>> and it still wasn't the "biggest".

>
> Wrong.


Why, because some dipshit Reichtard doesn't want to deal with the facts?
Sorry, sparky.

Try again.


>
>> > an
>> > attempt to take over our nation's health care (Bill and Hillary took
>> > arkansas from 48th to 49th in our nation in health and health care),

>>
>> Meanwhile the Republicans have allowed the US to spend more on healthcare
>> than any other nation in the G-8 (by far), while simultaneously having
>> the
>> worst health care of any other nation in the G-8 (by far).
>>
>> > and
>> > an attempt to disarm the American people (assault weapons made up a
>> > very
>> > small percentage of weapons used to commit murder).

>>
>> Perhaps you should try actually reading the Brady Bill sometime. While
>> you're at it, you might do a bit more research and you'd find most
>> Americans
>> support stronger gun control laws (by far), but naturally you won't
>> because
>> you're a Reichtard.

>
> When Bill Clinton took credit for falling murder rates only about 1 or 2
> people had actually been prosicuted under that Brady Bill. Meanwhile the
> states had spent huge amount of money building more prisons.


The Brady Bill was never intended to "prosicute(sic)" anyone, sparky.

He was given credit because the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement
Act of 1994 put 100,000 more police officers on the street, sparky. It
passed with only 2 Republican votes in the Senate, and 34 Republican votes
in the House. Crime in major cities immediately started a 10 year downward
trend. Ghouliani, did take credit for it in NYC, even though crime went
down in every major US city by similar amounts.

Try again.

>
>> > I hate to think what
>> > he would have done had he had democrats been in control of Congress and
>> > the Senate for 8 years. Did you know that by the time the defense team
>> > for the survivors at Waco were allowed access to the site of the raid,
>> > the only thing left was a concrete slab; Usually they call that
>> > destruction of evidence which is a felony.

>>
>> No, actually they just call dipshits like you, a dipshit.
>>
>> Investigators for the state of Texas (which, of course, is a far left
>> leaning state, donchaknow), concluded conclusively that Koresh had a
>> stockpile of illegal weapons, was repeatedly raping children, set the
>> fires
>> which destroyed the compound, and killed many of their own members by
>> their
>> own weapons fired at point blank range.

>
> Bullshit. The local sheriff had been out there several times and never
> found anything wrong. The BATF has no jurisdiction over child abuse
> anyway. It was a smoke screen to cover their asses.


The local sheriff is the one that requested federal government assistance,
sparky.

Try again.

>
>> Furthermore Special Counsel
>> Danforth (a Republican) concluded with "certainty" that the allegations
>> the
>> government started the fire were meritless.

>
> I watched congressional hearings on the raid at Waco. Democrats defended
> the Reno and the agents tooth and nail. Did you know the agents fired
> over the incident were rehired and given desk jobs at the BATF a week or
> two later?


WTF does this have to do with the Danforth (Republican) investigation,
sparky?

Try again.


>
>> The government of the United States and its agents are not responsible
>> for
>> the
>>
>> April 19, 1993, tragedy at Waco. The government:
>>
>> (a) did not cause the fire;

>
> Yes they did. What should have been done is the agents should have been
> pulled out and replaced. Then the Davidians would have been much more
> likely to give up. But the agents couldn't do that because there was too
> much evidence in the complex to incriminate them.


Why, because some dipshit Reichtard doesn't want to deal with the facts?
Sorry, sparky.

Try again.

>
>> (b) did not direct gunfire at the Branch Davidian complex; and

>
> Footage clearly showed the front of that building was riddled with
> bullet holes, yet the Davidians' cars the agents took cover behind
> didn't show a single bullet hole. All the windows were completely
> intact. The agents destroyed the cars because they showed the battle was
> very lopsided.
>
>> (c) did not improperly employ the armed forces of the United States.

>
> They had military helicopters there with mounted machine guns. There is
> some homemade footage showing


What part of "improperly" do you not understand, sparky?

Try again.

>
>> Responsibility for the tragedy of Waco rests with certain of the Branch
>> Davidians and
>>
>> their leader, Vernon Howell, also known as David Koresh, who:
>>
>> (a) shot and killed four ATF agents on February 28, 1993, and wounded 20
>> others;

>
> The battle ended when the agents ran out of bullets. Curious, huh?


What's even more curious is how a Reichtard like you could possibly blame
Clinton, when February 28, 1993 was 1 month after Clinton took office and
the ATF was still being run by Bush admin appointees.

Curious, huh?

Try again.

>
>> (b) refused to exit the complex peacefully during the 51-day standoff
>> that
>> followed

>
> They were being shot at. The couldn't get out. Couldn't communicate out.
> They hung a sign out the window saying "we want the press" and the press
> made fun of them with a chant on TV saying, "God help us. We are the
> press!" Freekin idiots. The BATF did allow Koresh to talk to a radio
> station, but it wasn't an interview, but a sermon. It's likely the
> police either intercepted the call or faked it with a tape of one of
> Koresh's sermons. You really believe after being trapped and begging to
> talk to the press that Koresh would give yet another sermon? The police
> in this case are soo freekin guilty, especially those in charge.


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.


>
>> the ATF raid despite extensive efforts and concessions by negotiators for
>> the
>>
>> Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI");
>>
>> (c) directed gunfire at FBI agents who were inserting tear gas into the
>> complex on
>>
>> April 19, 1993;
>>
>> (d) spread fuel throughout the main structure of the complex and ignited
>> it
>> in at least
>>
>> three places causing the fire which resulted in the deaths of those
>> Branch

>
> Amazing how the tanks just happened to break a hole through through the
> wall at the same places.


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.


>
>> Davidians not killed by their own gunfire; and

>
> Autopsy photos are much more revealing than the government's version.
> Make your own determination:
>
> http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/2/2_pix.html
> http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/33/33_pix.html
> http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/36/36_pix.html
>
> These and others found here:
> http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/death/map/d_list00.htm
> l


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.

>
> Remember this was a two story wooden structure, yet they look like they
> came from the a fire and collapse of a 10 story concrete building.
> There's little doubt they were run over by a tank most certainly in the
> act of destroying evidence. By the time that anyone in the press or
> private investigators were allowed access the site the only thing left
> was a concrete slab. The crime scene was completely cleaned up.


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.

>
>> (e) killed some of their own people by gunfire, including at least five
>> children.

>
> They had three choices:
>
> 1) get shot by agents (if they weren't already trapped in the fire)
> 2) burn to death.
> 3) commit suicide.
>
> Did you know people will jump from a tall building when on fire? Crazy,
> isn't it?


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.


>
> By the way, did police check the ballistics of their own guns to see
> where the bullets that hit themselves might have come from? Hummmmmm?
>
>
>> http://www.waco93.com/Danforth-finalreport.pdf

>
> That's so mired in politics. If the truth were known it would have
> destroyed Reno and the Clinton presidency along with her.


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.

>
>> But Reichtards like you will always believe what you want to believe,
>> regardless of truth, proof, unbiased investigations, sound reasoning, and
>> good sense.
>>
>> Have a nice day.

>
> There's lots of evidence that incriminates the agents. One of these
> videos shows a home made clip by a solder bragging on another in uniform
> sitting in a military helicopter with a mounted M-60 machine gun who
> responds, "Honed, honed to a fine edge."
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=waco&hl=en&sitesearch=


Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo, Koo-Koo.
 
On Feb 17, 11:50 am, robertr...@rogers.com wrote:
> 47 reasons to distance yourself from the Clintons
>
> Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what hashappened to many
> 'friends' of the Clinton's
>
> 1- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted White water partner died of an
> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement He was a key


I believe the CBC is now well over a third of a trillion. That's more
than 3,333,333,333,333 people they have killed or had killed.

BLP
 
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