Al Gore slams global warming doubters at Live Earth

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Former US vice president Al Gore took a swipe at
global warming doubters Saturday as he opened the Washington leg of
the worldwide Live Earth concerts that he helped organize.

Washington was a last-minute addition to the global event months after
organizers failed to find a space on the US capital's National Mall, a
sprawling green space featuring monuments including the Congress
building.

Other events had reportedly already booked spaces for the same day on
the Mall, while a subsequent bid by some lawmakers to bring the show
to the doorsteps of the US Capitol was blocked by some Republican
lawmakers.

But the National Museum of the American Indian finally offered its
venue on the Mall for the show, which featured the Native American
band Blues Nation and an acoustic performance from country music stars
Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood.

"Some who don't understand what is now at stake tried to stop this
event on the Mall," the former Democratic presidential candidate said
in a thinly veiled hit on members of President George W. Bush's
Republican party.

"But here we are," he said as an image of a bright Earth shined behind
him. "And it wasn't the cavalry who came to our rescue, it was the
American Indian."

A few hundred spectators turned out for the concert, which began at
10:30 am (1430 GMT).

Gore, who has become a leading voice on global warming and won an
Oscar for his documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," was to appear later
at the New York leg of Live Earth.

Live Earth kicked off in Sydney with other shows also taking place
during the day in Tokyo, Shanghai, Hamburg, London, Johannesburg and
Rio de Janeiro, which are expected to attract an audience of two
billion people.

Performers include Madonna, The Police, Keith Urban, the Red Hot Chili
Peppers and Lenny Kravitz.


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
 
<taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1183850477.118301.26090@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
> is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
> to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
> warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.

So says Rush Doper and Bill O'Pervert.
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2003@lycos.com
wrote:

>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.

Exactly.

Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
personal options. Altruism not being a general human trait, self
sacrifice must be considered a form of insanity. -- Captain Compassion


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:20:11 GMT, "The News!" <Bush
Druggie@Crawfordl.net> wrote:

>
><taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:1183850477.118301.26090@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>> is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>> to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>> warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>
>So says Rush Doper and Bill O'Pervert.
>
So sez me as well.
Who am I? A guy who can think for himself and realizes that
the earth has warmed and cooled many times without mankind even being
there. Our contribution to earth's climate is minuscule, mate.
 
In article <8pd0931ddgu5l5e1aeo8pefq9f0tm89pd2@4ax.com>, JimPgh
<iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:20:11 GMT, "The News!" <Bush
> Druggie@Crawfordl.net> wrote:
>
> >
> ><taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
> >news:1183850477.118301.26090@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
> >> is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
> >> to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
> >> warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
> >
> >So says Rush Doper and Bill O'Pervert.
> >
> So sez me as well.
> Who am I? A guy who can think for himself and realizes that
> the earth has warmed and cooled many times without mankind even being
> there. Our contribution to earth's climate is minuscule, mate.

So you have research and scientific data to show that our contribution
to the climate is minimal? Those who disagree with you have plenty of
research and data to back their claims.
 
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:tlb093pre7g25in7d6m8unt097rigff0r3@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2003@lycos.com
> wrote:
>
>>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>
> Exactly.
>
> Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
> Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
> personal options. Altruism not being a general human trait, self
> sacrifice must be considered a form of insanity. -- Captain Compassion


Presumably you'd be a Libertarian?


>
>
> --
> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>
> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>
> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>
> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>
> Joseph R. Darancette
> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:17:19 -0400, Colonel Panic
<kernelpanic@originalrecipe.bsd> wrote:

>In article <8pd0931ddgu5l5e1aeo8pefq9f0tm89pd2@4ax.com>, JimPgh
><iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:20:11 GMT, "The News!" <Bush
>> Druggie@Crawfordl.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1183850477.118301.26090@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>> >> is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>> >> to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>> >> warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>> >
>> >So says Rush Doper and Bill O'Pervert.
>> >
>> So sez me as well.
>> Who am I? A guy who can think for himself and realizes that
>> the earth has warmed and cooled many times without mankind even being
>> there. Our contribution to earth's climate is minuscule, mate.
>
>So you have research and scientific data to show that our contribution
>to the climate is minimal? Those who disagree with you have plenty of
>research and data to back their claims.

Here's the facts. The global temperature has increased 1 C. in the
last 100 years. About half of this was prior to 1940 and can not be
attributed to Human CO2 generation. So temperatures have increased
about .6C from 1940. It is impossible to ascertain how much of that
rise is from anthropogenic sources. And there is no indication in
climate history that CO2 has ever been the key to climate cycles. But
yet it is projected that temperatures will increase by up to 5C. in
the next 100 years because of an increase in CO2. We now have 60+ of
increasing CO2 but no real significant warming. The only significant
warming has been those in computer models not in the real world.


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
Captain Compassion wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2003@lycos.com
> wrote:
>
>
>>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>
>
> Exactly.
>
> Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
> Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
> personal options.


How much thought have you put into that? Anarchy quickly results in a
loss of freedom for nearly everyone.

Unfortunately, many freedoms conflict so we have to pick the more
valuable ones. Your right to life outweighs my freedom to shoot in your
direction, or drive the wrong way down the street, etc etc.
 
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:25:59 GMT, "Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net>
wrote:

>
>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:tlb093pre7g25in7d6m8unt097rigff0r3@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2003@lycos.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>>>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>>>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>>>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
>> Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
>> personal options. Altruism not being a general human trait, self
>> sacrifice must be considered a form of insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>
>
>Presumably you'd be a Libertarian?
>
Liberal (classical)

>
>>
>>
>> --
>> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>>
>> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>>
>> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
>> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>>
>> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>>
>> Joseph R. Darancette
>> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
>

--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:07:12 -0600, timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

>Captain Compassion wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2003@lycos.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>>>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>>>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>>>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>>
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
>> Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
>> personal options.
>
>
>How much thought have you put into that? Anarchy quickly results in a
>loss of freedom for nearly everyone.
>
>Unfortunately, many freedoms conflict so we have to pick the more
>valuable ones. Your right to life outweighs my freedom to shoot in your
>direction, or drive the wrong way down the street, etc etc.

Selling yourself into serfdom is seldom a good idea.


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
rest of you peasants. Pay your government masters like the good sheep
you are. We aren't in this together; I want nothing to do with you
and will ignore your idiotic rules and be smart enough not to get
caught. What dupes....

On Jul 7, 8:07 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
> Captain Compassion wrote:
> > On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:21:17 -0700, taxationistheft2...@lycos.com
> > wrote:
>
> >>Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
> >>is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
> >>to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
> >>warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>
> > Exactly.
>
> > Any truely rational individual will reject all theories, philosophies,
> > Political plans or belief systems that limit personal freedom or limit
> > personal options.
>
> How much thought have you put into that? Anarchy quickly results in a
> loss of freedom for nearly everyone.
>
> Unfortunately, many freedoms conflict so we have to pick the more
> valuable ones. Your right to life outweighs my freedom to shoot in your
> direction, or drive the wrong way down the street, etc etc.
 
"Colonel Panic" <kernelpanic@originalrecipe.bsd> wrote in message
news:070720072117195164%kernelpanic@originalrecipe.bsd...
> In article <8pd0931ddgu5l5e1aeo8pefq9f0tm89pd2@4ax.com>, JimPgh
> <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:20:11 GMT, "The News!" <Bush
>> Druggie@Crawfordl.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ><taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1183850477.118301.26090@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> Whether global warming is true or not cannot be determined, but what
>> >> is irrefutable is that proponents of it want control over people and
>> >> to run their lives because "they know better". Thus the global
>> >> warming agenda must be resisted by lovers of freedom.
>> >
>> >So says Rush Doper and Bill O'Pervert.
>> >
>> So sez me as well.
>> Who am I? A guy who can think for himself and realizes that
>> the earth has warmed and cooled many times without mankind even being
>> there. Our contribution to earth's climate is minuscule, mate.
>
> So you have research and scientific data to show that our contribution
> to the climate is minimal? Those who disagree with you have plenty of
> research and data to back their claims.

Since you believe, have you given up all use of fuel? No? You just want
the OTHER guy to give up his life style...after all, you are a believer and
exempt.
 
taxationistheft2003@lycos.com wrote:

> OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
> rest of you peasants. Pay your government masters like the good sheep
> you are. We aren't in this together; I want nothing to do with you
> and will ignore your idiotic rules and be smart enough not to get
> caught. What dupes....
>

Die painfully, and soon. Scum.
 
On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, Defendario <Defenda...@netscape.com> wrote:
> taxationistheft2...@lycos.com wrote:
> > OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
> > rest of you peasants. Pay your government masters like the good sheep
> > you are. We aren't in this together; I want nothing to do with you
> > and will ignore your idiotic rules and be smart enough not to get
> > caught. What dupes....
>
> Die painfully, and soon. Scum.

You are a traitor to freedom. Weasels need to run to Canada while
they still can.

Also, anyone who believes in global warming is a gullible fool.
 
<taxationistheft2003@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1184107143.693979.213170@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, Defendario <Defenda...@netscape.com> wrote:
>> taxationistheft2...@lycos.com wrote:
> You are a traitor to freedom. Weasels need to run to Canada while
> they still can.
>
> Also, anyone who believes in global warming is a gullible fool.
I hope you have read "The Satanic Gases" if not get a copy. Good solid
reading about the questionable integrity of the global warming data and
those that interpet it.
 
taxationistheft2003@lycos.com wrote:
> OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
> rest of you peasants.

How can you complain about taxes if you're an anarchist? By the logic
of anarchy, there is no property; anybody is entitled to "your" stuff if
they're strong enough to take it from you. The government is, and it does.
 
taxationistheft2003@lycos.com wrote:

> On Jul 8, 9:35 pm, Defendario <Defenda...@netscape.com> wrote:
>
>>taxationistheft2...@lycos.com wrote:
>>
>>>OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
>>>rest of you peasants. Pay your government masters like the good sheep
>>>you are. We aren't in this together; I want nothing to do with you
>>>and will ignore your idiotic rules and be smart enough not to get
>>>caught. What dupes....
>>
>>Die painfully, and soon. Scum.
>
>
> You are a traitor to freedom.

You crow about tax evasion and flaunting the rule of law, yet I'm a
traitor?

> Weasels need to run to Canada while
> they still can.
>

You better run somewhere, because if I catch your (_!_) it will be worse
for you.

> Also, anyone who believes in global warming is a gullible fool.
>

Anyone who believes you is an idiot.

Hurry up and die, already. Scum.
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:07:11 -0600, timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

>taxationistheft2003@lycos.com wrote:
>> OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
>> rest of you peasants.
>
>How can you complain about taxes if you're an anarchist? By the logic
>of anarchy, there is no property; anybody is entitled to "your" stuff if
>they're strong enough to take it from you. The government is, and it does.

Wouldn't it depend upon what flavor of anarchy you are talking about?
Perhaps he's an anarcho-capitalist or an anarcho-individualist. Why
would you assume he's talking about anarcho-communism?




--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
Captain Compassion wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:07:11 -0600, timeOday
> <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>
>> taxationistheft2003@lycos.com wrote:
>>> OK, anarchy and freedom for me and Captain Compassion, socialism for
>>> rest of you peasants.
>> How can you complain about taxes if you're an anarchist? By the logic
>> of anarchy, there is no property; anybody is entitled to "your" stuff if
>> they're strong enough to take it from you. The government is, and it does.
>
> Wouldn't it depend upon what flavor of anarchy you are talking about?
> Perhaps he's an anarcho-capitalist or an anarcho-individualist. Why
> would you assume he's talking about anarcho-communism?

I'm talking about pure anarchy - the law of the jungle.

Property rights are instituted by law, and thus by government. They
restrict freedom (the freedom to walk off with stuff) in favor of
another value most people share - exclusive use of things.

"taxationistheft" thinks anarchy and complete freedom is the way to go,
but I disagree.

The law prohibiting murder is another restriction on freedom that most
people are in favor of.
 

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