America about to get bigger.

builder

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Found this link on the alt.politics forum.

No wonder illegal aliens isn't a big issue. But what about security?

What about jobs and unemployment? What about America's constitution? Is that about to be used as dunny paper? Rewritten to suit a private agenda?

Something smells a bit funny here.

President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.
 

RoyalOrleans

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I voted for, "Canada and Mexico are already part of the United States."

We jokingly refer to Canada as "America's Largest National Park", "The 51st State of the Union", and "The Parking Lot".

Did you hear that Mexico will not be entering an athlete in the next Summer Olympic Games?

Why, RO? Why?

It is because all of their best runners, jumpers, and swimmers are here.

 

ImWithStupid

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**** yea.

We should have taken Canada from England during the American Revolution while we had the backing of France, Spain and the Netherlands, and we should have taken Mexico during the Mexican/American war anyway.

 

snafu

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It would be nice but I won't happen. Canada is strong enough and Mexico would probably need a civil war or something.
 

builder

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This article is old hat now, but the military agenda is made more clear by this statement.

The creation of NORTHCOM announced in April 2002, constitutes a blatant violation of both Canadian and Mexican territorial sovereignty. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced unilaterally that US Northern Command would have jurisdiction over the entire North American region. Canada and Mexico were presented with a fait accompli. US Northern Command's jurisdiction as outlined by the US DoD includes, in addition to the continental US, all of Canada, Mexico, as well as portions of the Caribbean, contiguous waters in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans up to 500 miles off the Mexican, US and Canadian coastlines as well as the Canadian Arctic.
NorthCom's stated mandate is to "provide a necessary focus for [continental] aerospace, land and sea defenses, and critical support for [the] nation’s civil authorities in times of national need."
It has been on the table (under the table for us) for years now.

 

ToriAllen

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The first thing that comes to mind is, "If this plan is so secret, how do they know about it?" More conspiracy theory bullshit.

Personally, I am all for adding Mexico and Canada. The Mexican Government wouldn't allow it, though. They are living too good to give up power. I don't think Canada would go for it either. The politics conflict a little too much. It is a good idea in theory, but it won't happen any time soon.

 

builder

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Well it's clearly not secret now ToriAllen, chuckles , or we wouldn't be talking about it. ;)

As an aside, news like this is best leaked out, rather than announced formally. Kind of like breaking the ice with a chip hammer, rather than a hand grenade approach..

 

TerroristHater

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Well it's clearly not secret now ToriAllen, chuckles , or we wouldn't be talking about it. ;)
As an aside, news like this is best leaked out, rather than announced formally. Kind of like breaking the ice with a chip hammer, rather than a hand grenade approach..
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I agree with TA, in that it isn't going to happen. This is simply more of Bush's delusional neocon bullshit. If this isn't a perfect example of why neocons need to be banned from holding public office of anykind.

I vote the way I did because 50% of Mexico already lives here. As for Canukistan, I don't want them in the union until they deport the terrorists living in their territory.

As for chimpy and mcfuckstick, there needs to be a congressional committee assigned to review everything they do. This will protect the American people from any further neocon delusions.

This country would be far better off if Samuel Alito was removed from the Supreme Court. He too is a neocon douchebag!

:cool:

 

builder

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This country would be far better off if Samuel Alito was removed from the Supreme Court. He too is a neocon douchebag!

:cool:
I'll pen a letter to my congressman immediately. ;)

 
Did you hear that Mexico will not be entering an athlete in the next Summer Olympic Games?
Why, RO? Why?

It is because all of their best runners, jumpers, and swimmers are here.
LMAO! Now that is true cough I mean -funny-.

 

snafu

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I agree with TA, in that it isn't going to happen. This is simply more of Bush's delusional neocon bullshit. If this isn't a perfect example of why neocons need to be banned from holding public office of anykind.

I vote the way I did because 50% of Mexico already lives here. As for Canukistan, I don't want them in the union until they deport the terrorists living in their territory.

As for chimpy and mcfuckstick, there needs to be a congressional committee assigned to review everything they do. This will protect the American people from any further neocon delusions.

This country would be far better off if Samuel Alito was removed from the Supreme Court. He too is a neocon douchebag!

:cool:

First of all this is only speculation. Second it's not Bush. They've been saying **** like this since way back.

 

TheJenn88

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While there are many practicalities in erasing the national border between the US and Canada (ok, fine - merge countries), like tariffs, security, etc. etc. I wouldn't want it to happen. I think there is still enough difference between the countries that a border should help define us. Yes, McDonalds and rap music is infiltrating both countries, but there are some values attributed to one country but not the other, that would not be up for discussion to axe.

I'm glad that the individual state has more power than the individual province, so that things like marriage, health care and education are more regional, but I wouldn't want to be governed the same for things like security and just the general impression that your country gives off. It's not an insult, I just don't want your presidents, your country's reputation, and the general American attitude. I very much love the country, but I wouldn't want to be a part of it.

I purposefully excluded Mexico simply because I don't care.

On another note, if the statistics I got were correct, 3.7% of America's population is illegal immigrants, and 1.5% of Canada's popluation is illegal immigrants. That's sort of embarrassing since we don't share any borders except with America blush

 

ImWithStupid

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While there are many practicalities in erasing the national border between the US and Canada (ok, fine - merge countries), like tariffs, security, etc. etc. I wouldn't want it to happen. I think there is still enough difference between the countries that a border should help define us. Yes, McDonalds and rap music is infiltrating both countries, but there are some values attributed to one country but not the other, that would not be up for discussion to axe.
Come on. You know that the only real difference between the US and Canada (other than Quebec speaking French and all of the western US speaking Spanish, Oh and you have successful national social programs) is the views on the "death penalty". :D

I'm glad that the individual state has more power than the individual province, so that things like marriage, health care and education are more regional, but I wouldn't want to be governed the same for things like security and just the general impression that your country gives off. It's not an insult, I just don't want your presidents, your country's reputation, and the general American attitude. I very much love the country, but I wouldn't want to be a part of it.
The only reason that Canada doesn't have a negative reputation anywhere is because of Canada's isolationist foreign policy. Canada is like the quiet kid that hangs around, observing, soaking in all the good ideas of everyone else, never voicing an opinion for or against anything and just when it's least expected they develop a huge trade deficit with their neighbors.

OK. The trade deficit thing doesn't really fit in with that analogy. It just amazes me when we constantly hear about the trade deficit with China, Japan and Southeast Asian countries. When right next door Canada has managed to increase the trade deficit with the US at a rate that is fairly equal to that of China. Sneaky Canuk bastards are trying to take over the US economy and managing to stay under the radar scope like they always do.

Well I'm not fooled. Be warned. Canada, I'm watching you, you shifty Northerners. :mad:

I purposefully excluded Mexico simply because I don't care.
Neither do the Mexican citizens. They're all in the US already. The only people still in the geographical borders of Mexico are Guatemalan, Hondurans, and El Salvadorans. But the Mexican citizen is still in their native country in spirit though.

Viva La Mexico

On another note, if the statistics I got were correct, 3.7% of America's population is illegal immigrants, and 1.5% of Canada's population is illegal immigrants. That's sort of embarrassing since we don't share any borders except with America blush
All that proves is that the Canadian border police can't even keep an eye on a few ships and planes. You all would be screwed worse than we are if you had any kind of border where someone would want to immigrate illegally.

 

TheJenn88

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Come on. You know that the only real difference between the US and Canada (other than Quebec speaking French and all of the western US speaking Spanish, Oh and you have successful national social programs) is the views on the "death penalty". :D
Lol, not just the death penalty. Acutally, informal polls show that the majority of Canadians are pro-death penalty.

The only reason that Canada doesn't have a negative reputation anywhere is because of Canada's isolationist foreign policy. Canada is like the quiet kid that hangs around, observing, soaking in all the good ideas of everyone else, never voicing an opinion for or against anything and just when it's least expected they develop a huge trade deficit with their neighbors.
Yes and no on that one. Being neutral doesn't necessarily mean that it's a bad thing. Some people prefer it that way. That's one of the biggest differences in our countries, and I think that characteristic should be acknowledge, defined, and separated. Sometimes I wish Canada did more, or more efficiently to help the world or become more involved, but because this is a distinguishing factor, that's another reasons our countries shouldn't merge.

OK. The trade deficit thing doesn't really fit in with that analogy. It just amazes me when we constantly hear about the trade deficit with China, Japan and Southeast Asian countries. When right next door Canada has managed to increase the trade deficit with the US at a rate that is fairly equal to that of China. Sneaky Canuk bastards are trying to take over the US economy and managing to stay under the radar scope like they always do.
Well I'm not fooled. Be warned. Canada, I'm watching you, you shifty Northerners. :mad:
Yeah well.. what can ya say :cool:

All that proves is that the Canadian border police can't even keep an eye on a few ships and planes. You all would be screwed worse than we are if you had any kind of border where someone would want to immigrate illegally.
Don't remind me how L (liberal..shh) our immigration policy has gotten. And I use the "L" word in the sense of failed. Slaughtered. Inefficient. Crappy. We don't have borders, yet we somehow manage to let 500,000 people slip in under the radar! Our new conservative government will hopefully crack down on this load of **** that the Liberals have let slip for th past 12 years.

 

builder

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So, on the one hand, we have people calling for a wall to built between Mehiko, and the US, and the same honkies saying Mehiko is already part of the US?

And the Nuckers are saying it's never gonna happen, and most of the illegal aliens they are hosting are actually expat yanks?

Interesting. Very ******' interesting.

So tell me something, please. If the US already controls both regions, without worrying about traffic either way, what is the point of establishing this new order?

Who stands to gain anything? Who will profit?

The people? Ha ******* ha. :rolleyes:

 

TerroristHater

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First of all this is only speculation. Second it's not Bush. They've been saying **** like this since way back.

Even if it's not Bush we still need a congressional commitee to review ever move he makes!!!

 

ToriAllen

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I agree with TA, in that it isn't going to happen. This is simply more of Bush's delusional neocon bullshit. If this isn't a perfect example of why neocons need to be banned from holding public office of anykind.
Wait a minute...The 'I agree with TA' comment and the 'Bush is a delusional neocon' comment should be in two separate paragraphs. I still maintain that it is just another way for Anti-Bush freakos to try to slander him. They probably didn't suspect that so many people actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea. This is because these type of people assume they know what everyone thinks, because there is no possible way that anyone would feel differently about a subject than they do... :rolleyes:

 

TerroristHater

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Wait a minute...The 'I agree with TA' comment and the 'Bush is a delusional neocon' comment should be in two separate paragraphs. I still maintain that it is just another way for Anti-Bush freakos to try to slander him. They probably didn't suspect that so many people actually think it wouldn't be a bad idea. This is because these type of people assume they know what everyone thinks, because there is no possible way that anyone would feel differently about a subject than they do... :rolleyes:

I am aware that there are others that know more then I do about politics; however, I still firmly believe that Bush is a delusional neocon douchbag who should be removed office. He is NOT a Republican. He is a neocon ******* who worships a pagan ***. It its a proven fact that he is a member of a secret society and that he holds the rank of "Magog".

Bush represents the very worst of this country and he needs to be removed from office and ANY AND ALL decisions he's made need to be examined.

:rolleyes:

 

ToriAllen

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I am aware that there are others that know more then I do about politics; however, I still firmly believe that Bush is a delusional neocon douchbag who should be removed office. He is NOT a Republican. He is a neocon ******* who worships a pagan ***. It its a proven fact that he is a member of a secret society and that he holds the rank of "Magog".
Bush represents the very worst of this country and he needs to be removed from office and ANY AND ALL decisions he's made need to be examined.

:rolleyes:
What I find to be the most humorous part of this entire speech is you having the nerve to call anyone else delusional... :rolleyes:

 
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