...Anybody know where our nukes are? Republican administration sure as hell doesn't.

In article <47FD52E2.255B9372@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>,
Kurt Lochner <kurt_lochner@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

> Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net>
> >
> > gringo <gringo@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> > > You defend the most inept, corrupt administration this
> > > nation has ever known...
> >
> >That's a lie, I do NOT defend Bill Clinton
>
> Last I looked, it was W. Bush and some Nixonian cronies that
> were running this nation into the ground..


So why did you claim that I defended Bill Clinton?
 
Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
>
> Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> >
> >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
> > >
> > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > >
> > > > >" ! Free Tibet ! " <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >spammer writhed in denials:
------------>
> > > > > > >Er, genius, Nixon got us out of Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam war.
> > > >
> > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower, both
> > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently "forgot"..
> > >
> > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> >
> > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
>
>Were Dulles and Ike in control when [..]

You must've slept through your history classes..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ngo_Dinh_Diem_at_Washington_-_ARC_542189.gif

--See subject header for details..
 
Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> babbled:
>
> Kurt Lochner was briefly amused by the evasions of:
> >
> >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > >
> > > gringo <gringo@nospam.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You defend the most inept, corrupt administration this
> > > > nation has ever known...
> > >
> > >That's a lie, I do NOT defend Bill Clinton
> >
> > Last I looked, it was W. Bush and some Nixonian cronies that
> > were running this nation into the ground..
>
>So why did you claim that I defended Bill Clinton?

So why did you 'project' the W. Bush administration's errors
of judgment upon former President Bill Clinton?

--See subject header for details..
 
In article <47FED843.2BC526F4@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>,
Kurt Lochner <kurt_lochner@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

> Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> >
> > Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> > >
> > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > >
> > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >" ! Free Tibet ! " <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >spammer writhed in denials:
> ------------>
> > > > > > > >Er, genius, Nixon got us out of Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam war.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower, both
> > > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently "forgot"..
> > > >
> > > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> > >
> > > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
> >
> >Were Dulles and Ike in control when LBJ lied us into a full scale war
> > with his lies about the Gulf of Tonkin Incident?



> You must've slept through your history classes..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident


Snicker.
 
Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
>
> Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> >
> >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> > > >
> > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >" ! Free Tibet ! " <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >spammer writhed in denials:
---------------->
> > > > > > > > >Er, genius, Nixon got us out of Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam war.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower, both
> > > > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently "forgot"..
> > > > >
> > > > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> > > >
> > > > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
> > >
> > >Were Dulles and Ike in control when [..]
> >
> > You must've slept through your history classes..
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ngo_Dinh_Diem_at_Washington_-_ARC_542189.gif
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident

http://www.vietnamwar.net/Eisenhower-3.htm

"I am, accordingly, instructing the American Ambassador to
Viet-Nam to examine with you in your capacity as Chief of
Government, how an intelligent program of American aid
given directly to your government can serve to assist
Viet-Nam in its present hour of trial, provided that your
Government is prepared to give assurances as to the standards
of performance it would be able to maintain in the event
such aid were supplied. The purpose of this offer is to
assist the Government of Viet-Nam in developing and
maintaining a strong, viable state, capable of resisting
attempted subversion or aggression through military means."

--See subject header for details..
 
We screwed your president's approval ratings along with the ones for his
"war."

"Prolly" pissed you off.

(snicker)


"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:19e79115-f380-4eed-b353-d8929d053c63@1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 9, 4:07 am, go...@roadrunner.com wrote:
> On Apr 9, 4:25 am, gringo <gri...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > spammer wrote:
> > > On Apr 8, 10:43 pm, Mani Deli <noth...@inter.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Its another failing war based on a continuous stream of lies just
like
> > >> Viet Nam. It will continued as long as the criminals who run this
> > >> country profit from it. Remember the crap General Westmorland used to
> > >> spout and that criminal Nixon. As a final fart at the American defeat
> > >> they said "now the Vietnamese boys will take over." It lasted five
> > >> more months. We killed three million Vietnamese and now it is a
> > >> trusted trading partner. That war caused a huge inflation this one so
> > >> far caused the death of our Constitutional freedoms.
>
> > > Er, genius, Nixon got us out of Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam war.
>
> > O astute one, you do realize, don't you, that he continued it four long
> > years (and 39,000 more deaths) longer than he should have--during his
> > campaign, he promised to end it within six months of election.
>
> > --
> > "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we
Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and
lynched."
> > --- George Herbert Walker Bush, in an interview with Sarah McClendon,
1992
>
> You mean like the Democrats in Congress are doing now? Elected in 2006
> to end the war. Hows that coming?
>
> The facts are that the Congress can end the war. They have voted twice
> to continue. They do not want the war to end because it is a campaign
> tool for them. The Democrat Congress owns this war for refusing to
> stop it as they promised. They lied perhaps?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

BUT,BUT,BUT,BUT,BUSH,LIES,WAR,WMD,HALLIBURTON,IRAQ,IRAN,STOLE THE
ELECTION,DRAFT DODGER,IDIOT,NAZI,WAR
CRIMINAL,BUSH,BUSH,BUSH,AAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
In article <47FF72EE.7470E129@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>,
Kurt Lochner <kurt_lochner@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

> Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> >
> > Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> > >
> > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> > > > >
> > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >" ! Free Tibet ! " <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >spammer writhed in denials:
> ---------------->
> > > > > > > > > >Er, genius, Nixon got us out of Kennedy/Johnson's Vietnam
> > > > > > > > > >war.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower, both
> > > > > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently
> > > > > > > "forgot"..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
> > > >
> > > >Were Dulles and Ike in control when [..]
> > >
> > > You must've slept through your history classes..
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ngo_Dinh_Diem_at_Washington_-_ARC_54218
> > > 9.gif
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
>
> http://www.vietnamwar.net/Eisenhower-3.htm
>
> "I am, accordingly, instructing the American Ambassador to
> Viet-Nam to examine with you in your capacity as Chief of
> Government, how an intelligent program of American aid
> given directly to your government can serve to assist
> Viet-Nam in its present hour of trial, provided that your
> Government is prepared to give assurances as to the standards
> of performance it would be able to maintain in the event
> such aid were supplied. The purpose of this offer is to
> assist the Government of Viet-Nam in developing and
> maintaining a strong, viable state, capable of resisting
> attempted subversion or aggression through military means."


During the DemocRAT regime of Harry Truman.

"In 1950, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and China recognized each
other diplomatically. The Soviet Union quickly followed suit. U.S.
President Harry S. Truman countered by recognizing the French puppet
government of Vietnam."

"In 1950, the U.S. Military Assistance and Advisory Group (MAAG) arrived
to screen French requests for aid, advise on strategy and train
Vietnamese soldiers."


Vietnam was a DemocRAT war.

Try again.

Snicker.
 
Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> sniveled again:
>
> Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> >
> >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> > > >
> > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
-------------->
> > > > > > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower, both
> > > > > > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently
> > > > > > > > "forgot"..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
> > > > >
> > > > >Were Dulles and Ike in control when [..]
> > > >
> > > > You must've slept through your history classes..
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ngo_Dinh_Diem_at_Washington_-_ARC_542189.gif
> > >
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
> >
> > http://www.vietnamwar.net/Eisenhower-3.htm
> >
> > "I am, accordingly, instructing the American Ambassador to
> > Viet-Nam to examine with you in your capacity as Chief of
> > Government, how an intelligent program of American aid
> > given directly to your government can serve to assist
> > Viet-Nam in its present hour of trial, provided that your
> > Government is prepared to give assurances as to the standards
> > of performance it would be able to maintain in the event
> > such aid were supplied. The purpose of this offer is to
> > assist the Government of Viet-Nam in developing and
> > maintaining a strong, viable state, capable of resisting
> > attempted subversion or aggression through military means."
>
>During the [Democratic] regime of Harry Truman.

That would be incorrect..

>"In 1950, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and China recognized
>each other diplomatically. The Soviet Union quickly followed suit.
>U.S. President Harry S. Truman countered by recognizing the French
>puppet government of Vietnam."

That is also incorrect, as it is only a partial quote..

"In 1950, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and China recognized
each other diplomatically. The Soviet Union quickly followed suit.
U.S. President Harry S. Truman countered by recognizing the French
puppet government of Vietnam. Washington feared that Hanoi was a
pawn of Communist China and, by extension, Moscow. This flew in
the face of the long historical antipathy between the two nations,
of which the U.S. seems to have been completely ignorant."

Also, you failed to mention that Eisenhower served as Chief of Staff
of the US Army..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower

"After his many wartime successes, General Eisenhower returned to
the U.S. a great hero. He was unusual for a military hero as he
never saw the front line in his life. The nearest he came to being
under enemy fire was in 1944 when a German fighter strafed the
ground while he was inspecting troops in Normandy. Eisenhower dove
for cover like everyone else and after the plane flew off, a
British brigadier helped him up and seemed very relieved he was
not hurt. When Eisenhower thanked him for his solicitude, the
brigadier deflated him by explaining "my concern was that you
should not be injured in my sector." This incident formed part
of Eisenhower's fund of stories he would tell now and again.

Not long after his return, a "Draft Eisenhower" movement in the
Republican party persuaded him to declare his candidacy in the
1952 presidential election to counter the candidacy of isolationist
Senator Robert Taft. (Eisenhower had been courted by both parties
in 1948 and had declined to run then.) Eisenhower defeated Taft
for the nomination but came to an agreement that Taft would stay
out of foreign affairs while Eisenhower followed a conservative
domestic policy. Eisenhower's campaign was a crusade against the
Truman administration's policies regarding "Korea, Communism and
Corruption" [..]

--See subject header for details..
 
In article <48017584.5ABACB9A@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>,
Kurt Lochner <kurt_lochner@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

> Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> sniveled again:
> >
> > Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> > >
> > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Lochner pointed out the obvious as it walked away snickering at:
> > > > >
> > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again amused by the juvenile evasions of:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Fraud A Blurtin' <fraud.a.blurting@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> whined:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploting the pathology exhibited by:
> -------------->
> > > > > > > > > Nope, that was John Foster Dulles and Dwight D. Eisenhower,
> > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > were "republicans", in case you right-tards conveniently
> > > > > > > > > "forgot"..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Nope, it was LBJ and his Gulf of Tonkin lies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So you're saying the Dulles and Ike had nothing to do with it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Were Dulles and Ike in control when [..]
> > > > >
> > > > > You must've slept through your history classes..
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ngo_Dinh_Diem_at_Washington_-_ARC_5
> > > > > 42189.gif
> > > >
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
> > >
> > > http://www.vietnamwar.net/Eisenhower-3.htm
> > >
> > > "I am, accordingly, instructing the American Ambassador to
> > > Viet-Nam to examine with you in your capacity as Chief of
> > > Government, how an intelligent program of American aid
> > > given directly to your government can serve to assist
> > > Viet-Nam in its present hour of trial, provided that your
> > > Government is prepared to give assurances as to the standards
> > > of performance it would be able to maintain in the event
> > > such aid were supplied. The purpose of this offer is to
> > > assist the Government of Viet-Nam in developing and
> > > maintaining a strong, viable state, capable of resisting
> > > attempted subversion or aggression through military means."
> >
> >During the [Democratic] regime of Harry Truman.
>
> That would be incorrect..
>
> >"In 1950, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and China recognized
> >each other diplomatically. The Soviet Union quickly followed suit.
> >U.S. President Harry S. Truman countered by recognizing the French
> >puppet government of Vietnam."
>
> That is also incorrect, as it is only a partial quote..
>
> "In 1950, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and China recognized
> each other diplomatically. The Soviet Union quickly followed suit.
> U.S. President Harry S. Truman countered by recognizing the French
> puppet government of Vietnam. Washington feared that Hanoi was a
> pawn of Communist China and, by extension, Moscow. This flew in
> the face of the long historical antipathy between the two nations,
> of which the U.S. seems to have been completely ignorant."
>
> Also, you failed to mention that Eisenhower served as Chief of Staff
> of the US Army..


Big deal, DemocRAT Truman was Commander-in-Chief, Ike's boss. It was
DemocRAT HST who initially got us involved in the Vietnam quagmire and
it was DemocRAT LBJ who escalated the war with his lies about the Gulf
of Tonkin.
 

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