Arizona State Senator responds to Immigration

snafu

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Senetor Sylivia Allen responds to immigration law

http://www.infowars.com/arizona-state-senator-responds-to-immigration-law/

Rancher Rob Krentz and his dog were found shot to death on his ranch along the Arizona border.


We need to secure our boarders and fight this trampling of our land.

The Socialists who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something.The Socialists wants us to just let them come. They want the “Transformation� to continue.

Dam socilaist lefties!

http://www.infowars....mmigration-law/

 

hugo

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Some of Brewer's opponents say she's not a true conservative and have hit her hard for demanding a temporary increase in the state sales tax. Her campaign has seized on the immigration bill to bolster her conservative credentials.
Sarah supporting a tax hiker. No surprise there.

 

ImWithStupid

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So if they need to secure the borders, why didn't they do just that instead of create a racist law?

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A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE26

MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON,

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EXCEPT IF THE DETERMINATION MAY HINDER OR OBSTRUCT AN INVESTIGATION. ANY

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PERSON WHO IS ARRESTED SHALL HAVE THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS

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DETERMINED BEFORE THE PERSON IS RELEASED. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS

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SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES

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CODE SECTION 1373©. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE

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OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY

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NOT CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE

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REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION
 

hugo

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A lie? So how does one identify a suspected illegal? Look for a kilt or a bottle of vodka?

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If they are working hard at a menial job there is a good chance they are illegal.

 

timesjoke

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So if they need to secure the borders, why didn't they do just that instead of create a racist law?

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Wow, just wow, more of the typical radical socialist blocking moves, call everyone a racist but do nothing to improve the situation.

The State is doing what it can, the Federal Government can easily stop most of the illegal problem but they "don't want to". Illegals represent too many liberal votes for the Democrats to act while the Republicans have been successfully intimidated by the Liberals to not act to be politically correct instead of doing what the Nation needs to survive. This law is a symptom of the real problem and that problem is we are not protecting our borders causing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to be spent supporting the illegals at the State level.

There is the "REAL" problem Bender. The responsibility for securing the border and deporting the illegals is on the Federal Government, and when they refuse to do that, it is not the Federal Government who has to pay for that lack, it is the local States who have to pay for the Federal Government's failure. This law is an attempt to stem the flow, I personally do not feel it is enough by far, but it is a beginning. But make no mistake, this was completely avoidable if the Federal Government had done their jobs.

This goes back to a point I have made before, we are way beyond the need for action, we do need to act, the question is will the Federal Government continue to dodge their responsibility or will they step up and not leave the States alone to fight this issue themselves? If they leave it to the Sates it will be messy and inconsistent, it will put Americans on the edge and we will most likely see a lot of bad behaviors in the future, all avoidable if the Federal Government steps in and does their job.

 

hugo

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This law is a symptom of the real problem and that problem is we are not protecting our borders causing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to be spent supporting the illegals at the State level.
What states should do is do as much as possible to see tax dollars do not go to services to illegal immigrants, including schooling. That and jail time for employers would be quite effective.

 

timesjoke

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What states should do is do as much as possible to see tax dollars do not go to services to illegal immigrants, including schooling.
The problem with that is the workers hugo.

All of the people who would work for those Government agencies are radical liberals and would never intentionally deny a claim for illegal status. There are already rules saying they can't get welfare but the workers already ignore those rules. Schools are the same, when was the last time you ever heard of the teacher's union supporting a conservative? Teachers are almost all way, way left liberals and they will never try to limit access to their schools to only those who are legal.

That and jail time for employers would be quite effective.
I agree. Big fines too, make it very unlikely any employer will take the chance.

But, I also support a guest worker program, let them come work as long as they are paying their taxes and are doing it right. The process must start with them going home though, no amnesty and no fast track to being an American.

 

phreakwars

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Wow, just wow, more of the typical radical socialist blocking moves, call everyone a racist but do nothing to improve the situation.

The State is doing what it can, the Federal Government can easily stop most of the illegal problem but they "don't want to". Illegals represent too many liberal votes for the Democrats to act while the Republicans have been successfully intimidated by the Liberals to not act to be politically correct instead of doing what the Nation needs to survive. This law is a symptom of the real problem and that problem is we are not protecting our borders causing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to be spent supporting the illegals at the State level.

There is the "REAL" problem Bender. The responsibility for securing the border and deporting the illegals is on the Federal Government, and when they refuse to do that, it is not the Federal Government who has to pay for that lack, it is the local States who have to pay for the Federal Government's failure. This law is an attempt to stem the flow, I personally do not feel it is enough by far, but it is a beginning. But make no mistake, this was completely avoidable if the Federal Government had done their jobs.

This goes back to a point I have made before, we are way beyond the need for action, we do need to act, the question is will the Federal Government continue to dodge their responsibility or will they step up and not leave the States alone to fight this issue themselves? If they leave it to the Sates it will be messy and inconsistent, it will put Americans on the edge and we will most likely see a lot of bad behaviors in the future, all avoidable if the Federal Government steps in and does their job.
This is the same guy who says "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY LIFE"

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hugo

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The problem with that is the workers hugo.

All of the people who would work for those Government agencies are radical liberals and would never intentionally deny a claim for illegal status. There are already rules saying they can't get welfare but the workers already ignore those rules. Schools are the same, when was the last time you ever heard of the teacher's union supporting a conservative? Teachers are almost all way, way left liberals and they will never try to limit access to their schools to only those who are legal.
Does not do much good to make more laws if you don't enforce the ones you already have.

 

phreakwars

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Here's the stupidity of TJ

Illegals represent too many liberal votes for the Democrats to act while the Republicans have been successfully intimidated by the Liberals to not act to be politically correct instead of doing what the Nation needs to survive.
Last I knew, illegals can't vote. Now he's insinuating it's a LEFT .vs RIGHT thing. Yeah, them evil liberals went out and made the Republicans of Arizona pass a racist law to win their hearts over and pull in some more voters. :rolleyes:

What a moron.

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