*bangs head on keyboard*

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Onideus Mad Hatter

Guest
Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web

development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big

city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem

though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted

it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,

the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or

make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.

Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can

always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter

mhm ? x ?

http://www.backwater-productions.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog

Hatter Quotes

-------------

"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're

saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the

best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally ***** slapped you

with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my

bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity

of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct

that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others

of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start

creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ******* high on themselves if they think that

they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just

givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even

properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of **** itself in all its tormentive rage,

endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you

don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton

tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a

function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.

Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast

indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,

gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

 
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Rev Turd Fredericks

Guest
Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:


> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>

Why not do both? Work at Wal-Mart part time a couple days a week or

something. That way, if the graphic design thing doesn't work out, you

can fall back to Wal-Mart.

 
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winged avenger

Guest
Onideus Mad Hatter allegedly gouged the following in alt.2600:


> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>

Web design outfits come and go, Wal Mart is forever (for good or bad) so

you're balancing possible job satisfaction/less bucks against very probable

job security/more bucks....Your call (Are you sure the Wal Mart job is always

gonna be open?).

 
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baxter

Guest
On Dec 18, 5:14?am, winged avenger <f...@tme.com> wrote:


> Onideus Mad Hatter allegedly gouged the following in alt.2600:


>


> > Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> > development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> > city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> > though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! ? sigh ?Granted


> > it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. ?So,


> > the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> > make less money but do something in my field? ?Decisions, decisions.


> > Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> > always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>


> Web design outfits come and go, Wal Mart is forever (for good or bad) so


> you're balancing possible job satisfaction/less bucks against very probable


> job security/more bucks....Your call (Are you sure the Wal Mart job is always


> gonna be open?).

depends on if he's working working a corporate position or store

position. any retail outlet will always hire back, i'm still on the

payroll for a cvs job i barely remember having 5 years ago (drank

alot). i say go for your field, but then again.... i ALWAYS go for

personal fulfillment over money.

- bax

 
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mimus

Guest
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:39:38 -0800, baxter wrote:


> On Dec 18, 5:14 am, winged avenger <f...@tme.com> wrote:


>


>> Onideus Mad Hatter allegedly gouged the following in alt.2600:


>>


>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart!   sigh  Granted


>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still.  So,


>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>>> make less money but do something in my field?  Decisions, decisions.


>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>>


>> Web design outfits come and go, Wal Mart is forever (for good or bad) so


>> you're balancing possible job satisfaction/less bucks against very probable


>> job security/more bucks....Your call (Are you sure the Wal Mart job is always


>> gonna be open?).


>


> depends on if he's working working a corporate position or store


> position. any retail outlet will always hire back, i'm still on the


> payroll for a cvs job i barely remember having 5 years ago (drank


> alot). i say go for your field, but then again.... i ALWAYS go for


> personal fulfillment over money.

Not to mention it looks better on the resume.

And the contacts you make may lead to better things, unless of course you

repulse them all . . . .

--

tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

"You are either insane or a fool."

"I am a sanitary inspector."

< _Maske: Thaery_

 
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fsdstudio@gmail.com

Guest
On Dec 18, 12:01?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-

productions.net> wrote:


> So,


> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> make less money but do something in my field? ?Decisions, decisions.


> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>

You comment quite often about doing your own art on your own terms.

So, you need to find out:

What sort of arrangement would any of the design companies offer you

regarding the ownership / use of the work? By default, once you

become an employee, you enter a "work for hire" situation -- meaning

they own everything you do while on their time. They don't even have

to allow you to use the stuff in a portfolio if they don't want to.

So make sure you know the terms there.

How willing are you going to be to compromise to the corporate

mentality? Meaning you might not always have the freedom to take on

just the projects that interest you.

Have you considered whether or not dedicating your creativity all day

long to someone else would compromise the "for yourself" stuff you

want to do in your off hours?

I'm not trying to discourage you. Actually, I think that working in

an "official" capacity can actually be a boost to credibility -- as

well as giving a lot of learning opportunities. BUT there are

downsides, particularly for anyone used to doing whatever they want on

their own terms.

-- Robert

 
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Rev Turd Fredericks

Guest
baxter wrote:


> On Dec 18, 5:14 am, winged avenger <f...@tme.com> wrote:


>> Onideus Mad Hatter allegedly gouged the following in alt.2600:


>>


>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>>> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>> Web design outfits come and go, Wal Mart is forever (for good or bad) so


>> you're balancing possible job satisfaction/less bucks against very probable


>> job security/more bucks....Your call (Are you sure the Wal Mart job is always


>> gonna be open?).


>


> depends on if he's working working a corporate position or store


> position. any retail outlet will always hire back, i'm still on the


> payroll for a cvs job i barely remember having 5 years ago (drank


> alot). i say go for your field, but then again.... i ALWAYS go for


> personal fulfillment over money.


>


> - bax

I have done that for years (personal fulfillment over money), and find

that I am a happier person for it. It hasn't always been easy, but once

you become personally fulfilled, the money just starts coming :) I am

now fairly well known in my field of work and have to actually turn down

work because I don't have time (due to the personal fulfillment

requirement), but if I really needed the money I could always do the

work.

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

Guest
On Dec 18, 1:01?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-

productions.net> wrote:


> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web

I'd love to see the portfolio you presented.

Please share.

Drew

 
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Onideus Mad Hatter

Guest
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:54:26 -0800 (PST),

whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


>On Dec 20, 4:39?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


>productions.net> wrote:


>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:35:03 -0500, TheGist <theg...@nospam.net>


>> wrote:


>>


>> >Ha!


>> >The self-owna<**** SLAP>


>>


>> Poor Pissy, all that terrible **** hurt. ?Don't worry, I called a


>> WAAAAAmbulance for you.


>


>Wh<**** SLAP>

Hey Drew, why is it that your face is always all up into Pissy's

filthy little ******* here lately? I mean, okay, he's pathetic and

obviously he hasn't the ***** to stand up for himself without breaking

out into tears and crying for your **** secks, but honestly, he could

do a LOT better than you, Fanboi. So, given that, why don't you

just save him, and yourself, the embarrassment and, hey, SHUT THE ****

UP! Woah! Amazing how ~that~ works. And in the mean time you can

sit quietly like a good little asspie and wait for someone with moar

talent than you to come along and try to defend your boyfriends honor.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter

mhm ? x ?

http://www.backwater-productions.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog

Hatter Quotes

-------------

"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're

saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the

best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally ***** slapped you

with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my

bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity

of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct

that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others

of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start

creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ******* high on themselves if they think that

they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just

givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even

properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of **** itself in all its tormentive rage,

endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you

don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton

tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a

function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.

Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast

indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,

gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

Guest
On Dec 18, 3:57?pm, whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


> On Dec 18, 1:01?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


>


> productions.net> wrote:


> > Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>


> I'd love to see the portfolio you presented.


>


> Please share.

I'm still waiting. But don't worry, I'm not holding my breath.

Drew

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

Guest
On Dec 18, 1:01?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-

productions.net> wrote:


> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! ? sigh ?Granted


> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. ?So,


> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> make less money but do something in my field? ?Decisions, decisions.


> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.

Matthew Moulton's a fraud.

Drew

 
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Rev Turd Fredericks

Guest
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


> On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


> productions.net> wrote:


>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>


>


> Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


>


> Drew

Why do you say that?

 
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Onideus Mad Hatter

Guest
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:38:08 -0800, Rev **** Fredericks

<turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote:


>whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


>> On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


>> productions.net> wrote:


>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>>> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>>


>>


>> Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


>>


>> Drew


>Why do you say that?

Because he's a Hatter Addict whose all bitter and frothy and blames me

for "destroying" his froup (ADG). Apparently I somehow ~ magically ~

made all the regs run crying home to mommy and only him and Pissy

(TheGist) were left. As such they hold quite the grudge and have

devoted all their time on Usenet to frothing on about me, looking for

any possible angle they can find to try and say something mean and

nasty to me, with the ever failing hope that it's somehow going to

"get back" at me. Unfortunately for them they just haven't got a

****** cl00 and haven't realized that their little friends retarded on

back to Webbie land so they could have a moderator to babysit their

Internet experience. They would be better off if they realized that

they don't belong here, like their moar intelligent friends did, and

simply logged the **** off Usenet. Instead they just keep trying and

trying and trying to "get back" at dat mean 'ol Mad Hatter, never

comprehending that a true Netter will never be able to do anything but

laugh at their spastic little fit throwing attempts at virtual

retribution. They simply cannot grasp the fact that they're Webtards

trying to fit into a Netter world.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter

mhm ? x ?

http://www.backwater-productions.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog

Hatter Quotes

-------------

"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're

saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the

best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally ***** slapped you

with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my

bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity

of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct

that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others

of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start

creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ******* high on themselves if they think that

they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just

givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even

properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of **** itself in all its tormentive rage,

endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you

don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton

tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a

function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.

Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast

indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,

gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

Guest
On Dec 20, 11:38?pm, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>

wrote:


> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


> > On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


> > productions.net> wrote:


> >> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> >> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> >> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> >> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! ? sigh ?Granted


> >> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. ?So,


> >> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> >> make less money but do something in my field? ?Decisions, decisions.


> >> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> >> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>


> > Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


>


> > Drew


>


> Why do you say that?

The facts.

Drew

 
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Rev Turd Fredericks

Guest
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


> On Dec 20, 11:38 pm, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>


> wrote:


>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


>>> On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


>>> productions.net> wrote:


>>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


>>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


>>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>>>> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


>>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>>> Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


>>> Drew


>> Why do you say that?


>


> The facts.


>


> Drew

You know, you don't just call somebody a fraud without providing those,

and you have not done so. I'm not a big fan of hatter, but unless you

provide facts, you are just farting in the wind. Whether I like the guy

or not, you can't just **** out an insult like that without proving it

being true. It seems to me, you are just simply a wimp who can't measure

up to him.

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

Guest
On Dec 22, 12:00?am, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>

wrote:


> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


> > On Dec 20, 11:38 pm, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>


> > wrote:


> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


> >>> On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


> >>> productions.net> wrote:


> >>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


> >>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


> >>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


> >>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! ? sigh ?Granted


> >>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. ?So,


> >>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


> >>>> make less money but do something in my field? ?Decisions, decisions.


> >>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


> >>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


> >>> Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


> >>> Drew


> >> Why do you say that?


>


> > The facts.


>


> > Drew


>


> You know, you don't just call somebody a fraud without providing those,


> and you have not done so. I'm not a big fan of hatter, but unless you


> provide facts, you are just farting in the wind.

Gladly, sir.

Let's start with this thread. Matthew Moulton claims to have had 3

interviews for graphic design positions. Yet when twice asked to

provide a glimpse of his portfolio we hear crickets chirp. Not even a

<cockslap>. Try walking into an interview for graphic design without a

portfolio and you'll be shown the door. In the past when asked to back

up his boasts with a portfolio we got nothing but lame excuses. All he

has to hang his hat on is this file: http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png

That's closer to illustration than graphic design. He doesn't know how

to kern his letterforms, doesn't know the difference between

typesetting and typography, and claims that not only does he have "***

level skills" in the field, but file compression and coding is what

design is all about.

He has claimed to know all about photography, but has argued that

digital cameras can not be SLRs.

He has claimed that he employs a copy editor, yet his examples of such

are so full of gramatical and punctuation errors that a high school

sophomore could do better.

He claims to be writing a book on graphic design, based on one bit of

advice concerning coding he gave in ADG.

Claims to be in contact with the parent company of Care Bears and is

in negotiations to produce a full length film. Please, do you really

think a brand like that would entrust itself with a producer of http:/

backwater-productions.net?

So yes sir, I contend he's a fraud. Those at ADG have proven it time

and time again.

Drew

 
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Fred Doyle

Guest
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


> On Dec 22, 12:00 am, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>


> wrote:


>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


>>> On Dec 20, 11:38 pm, Rev **** Fredericks <turdfr...@catholic.org>


>>> wrote:


>>>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


>>>>> On Dec 18, 1:01 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-


>>>>> productions.net> wrote:


>>>>>> Well, I've applied to three different graphic design and/or web


>>>>>> development jobs in the Tri-City area (closest you can get to a "big


>>>>>> city" around here) and all three are interested in hiring me...problem


>>>>>> though...they all pay LESS than I make at Wal Mart! sigh Granted


>>>>>> it's not ~significantly~ less, only a dollar or two...but still. So,


>>>>>> the question is, do I keep working at Wal Mart making more money...or


>>>>>> make less money but do something in my field? Decisions, decisions.


>>>>>> Of course on the one hand even if I stopped working at Wal Mart I can


>>>>>> always go back to it anytime I liak, so that's kinda nice.


>>>>> Matthew Moulton's a fraud.


>>>>> Drew


>>>> Why do you say that?


>>> The facts.


>>> Drew


>> You know, you don't just call somebody a fraud without providing those,


>> and you have not done so. I'm not a big fan of hatter, but unless you


>> provide facts, you are just farting in the wind.


>


> Gladly, sir.


>


> Let's start with this thread. Matthew Moulton claims to have had 3


> interviews for graphic design positions. Yet when twice asked to


> provide a glimpse of his portfolio we hear crickets chirp. Not even a


> <cockslap>. Try walking into an interview for graphic design without a


> portfolio and you'll be shown the door. In the past when asked to back


> up his boasts with a portfolio we got nothing but lame excuses. All he


> has to hang his hat on is this file: http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png


> That's closer to illustration than graphic design. He doesn't know how


> to kern his letterforms, doesn't know the difference between


> typesetting and typography, and claims that not only does he have "***


> level skills" in the field, but file compression and coding is what


> design is all about.


>


> He has claimed to know all about photography, but has argued that


> digital cameras can not be SLRs.


>


> He has claimed that he employs a copy editor, yet his examples of such


> are so full of gramatical and punctuation errors that a high school


> sophomore could do better.


>


> He claims to be writing a book on graphic design, based on one bit of


> advice concerning coding he gave in ADG.


>


> Claims to be in contact with the parent company of Care Bears and is


> in negotiations to produce a full length film. Please, do you really


> think a brand like that would entrust itself with a producer of http:/


> backwater-productions.net?


>


> So yes sir, I contend he's a fraud. Those at ADG have proven it time


> and time again.


>


> Drew


>


>

I can't believe you really need this stuff to believe Matt flushes out

more **** than a DQ bathroom. Here's a few more from just within the

last couple of weeks, all posted in these groups.

Matt's going to "rip apart the lives of jurors in ways they can never

imagine" in the MySpace cyber-bullying case cuz he didn't like their

verdict. Did he do anything at all? Ah yes, he contacted the lawyers in

the case who told him they couldn't give him the names but told him how

he could get them from court records. AND said they might like to use

him as a witness in an appeal , knowing he was going to to "rip apart

the lives of jurors"!!! Surrrrrreeeee. I believe that. That would sure

help their case. Can you imagine that? Matt testifying on the side of

someone convicted of cyber-bullying. Wouldn't any lawyer like to get him

on the stand and cross examine him about his posts?

He's going to write my customers and do some spec work to show them how

much better he can do than me, and then post it here for us to see. He

didn't.

All of Matt's many, world-class clients "customers" won't let him even

mention that he did work for them, an unheard of circumstance in our

industry. Freelancers rely on this ability and there are fair use rights

that allow it, as long as you don't mislead people about what you did no

the project. Ahhhh, there's the rub.

C'mon pay attention. Do you really need this stuff reiterated for you?

Fred Doyle

 
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Onideus Mad Hatter

Guest
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:54:23 -0800 (PST),

whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:


>Gladly, sir.

Mmmm, this will be fun to rip all apart.


>Let's start with this thread. Matthew Moulton claims to have had 3


>interviews for graphic design positions. Yet when twice asked to


>provide a glimpse of his portfolio we hear crickets chirp. Not even a


><cockslap>. Try walking into an interview for graphic design without a


>portfolio and you'll be shown the door.

Oh, ding, ding, ding, FALLACY!

Man, yer so ****** stupid you couldn't even manage to come up with one

single REAL fact, so you instantly ****** off into fallacy land.

Here's an ~ amazing ~ concept for you, Dipshit...just because YOU

can't see something (or aren't allowed to) doesn't mean it doesn't

exist you whiney little poser class fuckup. And it most certainly

does NOT constitute a "fact" in ANY sense of the word. Obviously,

if you think it does, you need to go on back to high school and work

some **** out, Downs.


>In the past when asked to back


>up his boasts with a portfolio we got nothing but lame excuses.

Complete bullshit, I've posted quite literarily dozens of different

examples, some straight out of my portfolio, of course a fuckup Hatter

Addict liak you can simply conveniently ignore them for the benefit of

your delusions.


>All he has to hang his hat on is this file: http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png


>That's closer to illustration than graphic design.

And Drew, the fuckup, is just going to conveniently ignore the

following...

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Easy_Ambigram.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-21-2007_-_Dreamation_Logo_Idea.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-23-2007_-_Global_Warning.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-24-2007_-_Kitties_-_Yum_Yums.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-25-2007_-_Kitties_-_Stuck.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-26-2007_-_Kitties_-_What_That.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-27-2007_-_Kitties_-_Pokey_Bits.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-28-2007_-_Kitties_-_Piffle.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-29-2007_-_Kitties_-_I_Farted.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-30-2007_-_Kitties_-_Grumpus.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/5-1-2007_-_Kitties_-_Slow_Lane.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/5-2-2007_-_Kitties_-_Bored_Now.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/5-3-2007_-_Kitties_-_I%27ll_Fix_It.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/5-4-2007_-_Kitties_-_Furffle.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/5-5-2007_-_Kitties_-_Teach_It_A_Lesson.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/4-20-2007_-_Photo_Touchup.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/14_Days/Box_Thinker.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Business_Card.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Animated_Print_Test_1.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Animated_Print_Test_2.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/In_Progress_4.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Repaired_Images/Amy_-_Original.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Repaired_Images/Amy_-_Fixed.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Safe_Link_Logo_Idea_1.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Safe_Link_Logo_Idea_2.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Safe_Link_Logo_Idea_3.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Techniques/Lightning.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/candy_5.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphic_Design_-_Panic_Hans.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphical_Reverse_Engineering_-_Vista_Logo.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Web_Design_-_Graphical%20Fix_Example.png

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http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Discovery.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Manip.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Player.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/You_Lose_With_WAMU.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Lego/The_Tedium_Flows_Like_A_River.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Evul_Tree.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Nicky_Scanned.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Oatmeal_The_Magic_Keeristmas_Tree.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Pac_Man_Cookies.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Uncle_Robert.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Education_-_Trans.html

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_1.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_2.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_3.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_4.jpg

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http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_7.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_8.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Fauxpic_-_Lil_Jeffy.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Alice_Color.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Birthday_Card.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Cube_Design.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_DQ_-_Burgers.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_DQ_-_My_Logo_Design.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Envirojobby.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Glass_Technique.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Legos_-_Render_Edabedabind.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Patriots_Calander_August.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Semi-Transparent_Text_Technique.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_Speedy_URL.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphic_Design_-_T2_Phage.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Graphical_Reverse_Engineering_02.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/My_Art_-_Baby_Love-a-lot.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/My_Art_-_English_Killed.png

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http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/My_Art_-_Jack_In_The_Box.gif

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/My_Art_-_Pirate_Share_Bear.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_Space_Fine_Arts_Building_2.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_cafeteria.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_fine_arts_building_1.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_garden_and_church.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_library_floor_1.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_orphanage_dorms.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_orphanage_east.png

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http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_4th_space_rec_room.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_Mindows.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_Money_Icons.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Spriting_-_Teh_Conversion.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Backwater_Design_Idea.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Backwater_Video_Controls.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Button_Idea_1.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Button_Idea_2.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_CB_Site_Loader.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_CB_Site_Music_Player_Working_3.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_CB_Site_Story_Interface.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Icy_Design.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Retro_Gaming_Design.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Site_Stat_Tracker_-_Design_Idea.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Split_Form_A26.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Split_Form_Blog.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Web_Design_-_Wedding_Site_Map.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/Blog_Designs/Tree_Light.html

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/CC_Check/credit_card_check.swf

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/FF9_Guide/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/Flat_Space/index.swf

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/Forum_Template/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/Porchy/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_test_platform/liquid/

http://www.backwater-productions.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/carebears/

http://www.the-care-bears.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/npindex/index.html

http://www.backwater-productions.net/RMXP_CSG/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/data_archive/

http://www.ironartshop.com

http://www.tripoweraussies.com

http://www.backwater-productions.net/wwcc/histology-1/

http://www.backwater-productions.net/wwcc/yoga-online/

http://staff.wwcc.edu/steve.shoemake/website/anatomy1/tutorials/movements/index.html

http://www.backwater-productions.net/wwcc/cell-biology/

http://www.sarcastic-caret.net/wedding/

http://www.****-neopets.com

http://staff.wwcc.edu/steve.shoemake/website/anatomy1/tutorials/terms/index.html

At this point Drew only has two options...one, pretend it doesn't

exist. Two...throw a tantrum and flail about random accusations,

screaming on that I magically ~ stole ~ all of the work up there even

though he doesn't actually have any proof what so ever because he just

pulled it out of his butthurt little ***.

And here's the best part...all that work up there...hardly any of that

is even IN my portfolio. LOL, I actually have a whole **** load of

work that's never been shown to anyone on Usenet (for obvious reasons)

that is of course right on par with all the other work I've done up

there (some even moar impressive).


>He doesn't know how


>to kern his letterforms, doesn't know the difference between


>typesetting and typography,

This from the idiot who doesn't know how to properly antialias fonts:

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/OUCH_I_FUCKIN_CUT_MYSELF_ON_DREW%27S_STUPIDITY.png

Seriously Drew, could your amateur hour *** POSSIBLY get those lines

any moar jagged? LOL And the only "kerning" issues you've ever been

able to stand on were a couple of minute, pixel level alignments with

my Backwater logo...except then you got rightly ***** slapped that the

logo was purposefully deformed to make it look like it was being seen

underwater, with some areas of the text bulging out and some inward.

THAT is what created the "kerning issues" which you started

molesting up the *** for lack of any better of a critique. You failed

miserably of course since you didn't even have enough sense to

recognize that it was apart of the sites design/style. If you were a

REAL graphic artist you SHOULD have been able to see that. Also,

if you were a REAL graphic designer you would know that every

graphics proggie on the planet AUTO KERNS, so really, there's not any

way TO mess up the kerning unless you just went in and did it

manually for some specific stylistic reason. Only a fumbling idiot

who has never touched a graphics proggie in his life would think that

you had to MANUALLY KERN EVERY LETTER IN THE FONT...yes Drew, you

really are THAT ****** retarded.


>and claims that not only does he have "***


>level skills" in the field,

More hysterical, fit throwing lies from Drew. I never claimed to be a

"*** level" anything, the most I ever claimed was to have invented a

web coding form which I call "*** level" not to imply perfection, but

to imply creationism, since the site form is all about having just one

site that could adapt and interact with the user, changing it's own

content around rather than simply redirecting the user to another

page. Essentially a kind of "smart site" or a "living site". It

certainly does NOT mean "perfection" in any sense of the word, after

all, if *** were perfect he wouldn't have created retards liak Drew.


>but file compression and coding is what design is all about.

In a digital environment design is NOTHING without code, you

bumbling ****** ******. If you can't even grasp that fundamental

concept you're certainly no graphic designer, at least not one who

deals with any sort of technology. Every tool, every brush, every

filter, every effect, every program, it's ALL CODE you chromosomal

deficient. Tha ****, sometimes Drew is just so completely ******

stupid you almost have to just stop and try and figure out how it is

he's even managing to type and breath at the same time.


>He has claimed to know all about photography, but has argued that


>digital cameras can not be SLRs.

More bullshit lies taken out of contest, twisted and put into

convenient little strawmen.


>He has claimed that he employs a copy editor, yet his examples of such


>are so full of gramatical and punctuation errors that a high school


>sophomore could do better.

For those that missed that debacle Drew and a couple other idiots, who

ARE NOT English majors attempted to go through a text that I had

professionally copy edited...they came up with like TWO "errors"...or

so they claimed they were...that was until I started x-posting into

various English froups and the regs soundly ***** slapped Drew right

across his idiot face because the drooling moron couldn't even figure

out what the **** a semi-colon was.


>He claims to be writing a book on graphic design, based on one bit of


>advice concerning coding he gave in ADG.

I'm working on several books actually in my spare time, on a variety

of subjects and I've been told by numerous people that they would most

certainly purchase any technical based book I write. Here's one such

example:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/msg/460b86866553263b

: BTW, I thought I should mention that your explanation of Div layers is

: the best (and easiest to understand) that I've come across. I have

: about 3-4 (?) books on CSS, countless tutorials, mag articles,

: etc. And not a single frigging one explained it as well as you just did.

:

: When are you going to stop talking about it and write a frigging

: book?? I can't believe that I'm the only one who needs this kind of

: direction - if you're not going to think about the moolah, think about

: the number of designers *** web designers out there suffering

: needlessly! Even if you don't feel like dealing with publishers, you

: could do an e-Book and sell it on your web site . . . just a thought.

Drew of course has NEVER had ANYONE tell him that he should write

any sort of book nor has he EVERY had ANYONE thank him for sharing

his knowledge and expertise...mostly because he HAS NONE ! LOL


>Claims to be in contact with the parent company of Care Bears and is


>in negotiations to produce a full length film.

I most certainly am, Drewster. Of course as we've already covered, in

Drew's screwed up little world logistical FALLACIES somehow count as

"facts". By Drew's own logic he's the dumbest ******* ****** on the

planet simply because he has yet to prove otherwise. The absence of

evidence is not evidence.

Here, let's humiliate Drew some moar:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html

He's committing a series of "burden of proof" fallacies which state:

: 1. Claim X is presented by side A and the burden of proof actually rests on side B.

: 2. Side B claims that X is false because there is no proof for X.

Drew also enjoys committing "circumstantial ad hominems" whenever he

can, which state:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/circumstantial-ad-hominem.html

: 1. Person A makes claim X.

: 2. Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.

: 3. Therefore X is false.

He often uses my job at Wal Mart to try and pull off this fallacy.

His post here can also be classified as an "appeal to spite" fallacy

which follows the form:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-spite.html

: 1. Claim X is presented with the intent of generating spite.

: 2. Therefore claim C is false (or true)

In that all his "arguments" are attempts to paint me up as some kind

of nefarious liar or evil nasty person, which of course means that

ANYTHING I've ever said simply cannot be trusted and is

automatically false...at least in Drew's little world of stupid.

And of course in line with all of that he's also keen on "ad hominems"

and "ad hominem tu quoque" which state:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

: 1. Person A makes claim X.

: 2. Person B makes an attack on person A.

: 3. Therefore A's claim is false.

Again using Wal Mart as the primary example, Drew just ~loves~ to make

personal attacks based on where I work and tries to use my

circumstances as a means of justifying his false claims regarding my

range and level of skill. Poisoning the well, strawmen, and personal

attack fallacies also fall in line with these ad hominems that Drew

liaks to crutch around on when he has nothing to stand on.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html

: 1. Person A makes claim X.

: 2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.

: 3. Therefore X is false.

In that form Drew often liaks to selectively take bits of my trolling

endeavors and tries, rather stupidly, to apply them to every single

thing I've ever said. In Drew's screwed up little world if anyone

ever tell a lie in satire it automatically means that anything and

everything they say in the future will also be a lie.


>Please, do you really


>think a brand like that would entrust itself with a producer of http:/


>backwater-productions.net?

And yet there have even been people in ADG who outright hired me to do

work for them:

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/In_Progress_4.png

Despite all your frothing, screaming, fit throwing, fallacy *******

and finger pointing. Of course, it's no surprise that NO ONE has

EVER outright asked Drew for any help in ADG, much less has anyone

in ADG ever hired him on for a job.


>So yes sir, I contend he's a fraud. Those at ADG have proven it time


>and time again.

Those in ADG being...who? You and Pissy?

The true facts of the matter is that you've been ***** slapped in so

many different directions you can't even tell where the **** you're at

any more Drew. You're so blinded by horrible butthurt and rage that

you can't even think straight anymore. And a large part of that is

the fact that you've become a bitter and dejected little fuckup who

simply cannot contend in the digital age. You're a dinosaur, Drew.

You died out, your "profession" as you once knew it no longer exists

and if you weren't old and retired you would find out very quickly

that you wouldn't be able to get a graphic design position even if you

were giving out blow jobs and working for free. You don't understand

any of this technology, you don't know how it works, you don't know

how to use it, all of your skills that you spent so many years

learning are all, now, effectively worthless. And in the time it took

you to get comfortable and turn a blind eye to the technological

revolution, thinking it was just some fad, some young kid liak me has

come along and in less than five years completely surpassed every

facet of antediluvian design knowledge you had. At this point you

couldn't even dream of breathing on my level, much less contending

against my level of skill and expertise. And of course there's proof

of that:

Yours:

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew%27s_Mom.png

Mine:

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_Fuck_Drew%27s_Mom_-_01.png

You're so completely devoid of talent and creativity that the best you

could come up with was raping a "safe palette" and presenting an

incoherent jumble of ****. WRD in the OOOOHHH...yeah that's brilliant

Drew, just what the **** is that supposed to represent exactly? Your

senility perhaps? Your ever failing grade school education after you

flunked out in the 4th grade? Come on Drew, step it the **** up and

try to defend that garish piece of **** you attempted to call art.

Just ~TRY~ and explain some meaningful level of symbolism and logic

out of that misspelled Clown raped **** smear. You lose,

*******...and it makes you SO angry and ****** off at me, doesn't

it? But think about this Drew...in all the time you're spending and

have spent obsessing over me and trying to tear me down to your

level...you could have been attempting to actually IMPROVE

yourself...but then again you probably recognize the fact that you're

just an old has-been (or never-was) and that even if you tried to get

on track at this point you would simply fail as you've failed through

your whole ******* life. Be angry. Be bitter. And don't EVER stop

obsessing over me and my artistic pursuits, you stupid ****** Hatter

Addict. You're eventually going to DIE having wasted most of your

twilight years trying to "get back" at some young kid who ****** all

over your lack of talent and then ***** slapped it across your stupid,

ugly face. You're not simply a never-was, you're a never-will-be at

that, you grouchy little *** faced fuckup.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter

mhm ? x ?

http://www.backwater-productions.net

http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog

Hatter Quotes

-------------

"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're

saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the

best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally ***** slapped you

with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my

bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity

of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct

that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others

of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start

creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ******* high on themselves if they think that

they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just

givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even

properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of **** itself in all its tormentive rage,

endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you

don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton

tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a

function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.

Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast

indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,

gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

 
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whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com

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On Dec 22, 1:12?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-

productions.net> wrote:


> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:54:23 -0800 (PST),


>


> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:


> >Gladly, sir.


>


> Mmmm, this will be fun to rip all apart.


>


> >Let's start with this thread. Matthew Moulton claims to have had 3


> >interviews for graphic design positions. Yet when twice asked to


> >provide a glimpse of his portfolio we hear crickets chirp. Not even a


> ><cockslap>. Try walking into an interview for graphic design without a


> >portfolio and you'll be shown the door.


>


> Oh, ding, ding, ding, FALLACY!


>


> Man, yer so ****** stupid you couldn't even manage to come up with one


> single REAL fact, so you instantly ****** off into fallacy land.


> Here's an ~ amazing ~ concept for you, Dipshit...just because YOU


> can't see something (or aren't allowed to) doesn't mean it doesn't


> exist you whiney little poser class fuckup. ?And it most certainly


> does NOT constitute a "fact" in ANY sense of the word. ?Obviously,


> if you think it does, you need to go on back to high school and work


> some **** out, Downs.


>


> >In the past when asked to back


> >up his boasts with a portfolio we got nothing but lame excuses.


>


> Complete bullshit, I've posted quite literarily dozens of different


> examples, some straight out of my portfolio, of course a fuckup Hatter


> Addict liak you can simply conveniently ignore them for the benefit of


> your delusions.


>


> >All he has to hang his hat on is this file:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png


> >That's closer to illustration than graphic design.


>


> And Drew, the fuckup, is just going to conveniently ignore the


> 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>


> At this point Drew only has two options...one, pretend it doesn't


> exist. ?Two...throw a tantrum and flail about random accusations,


> screaming on that I magically ~ stole ~ all of the work up there even


> though he doesn't actually have any proof what so ever because he just


> pulled it out of his butthurt little ***.

You're kidding me, right? Not one lick of that meets a professional

design standard. Thanks for the laugh, though.

fraud: 3 a person who deceives or is not what he pretends to be;

impostor; cheat

Drew

 
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