On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:48:17 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoyle1@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:
>Actually, if you really know what you are doing, and not just pretending
>you do, you'd prolly want to make the kerning value smaller, not bigger,
>like with a negative number, to pull specific letter pairs together even
>tighter than the kerning table values indicate (not the whole block of
>text, specific letter pairs). Real professional graphic designers, not
>those pretending to be one, do it all the time for a variety of
>"specific stylistic reasons." I'll bet you learn that if you take any of
>those jobs you talked about and you'll be so proud of yourself.
Real professional designer know that it's not to good to *** rape
anything, whether it's filter effects or kerning. Just because your
stupid *** CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD be doing it. I
would suspect that most of the times you've done it you didn't even
know WHY you were doing it other than you thought it would look
cool. Further, making the kerning smaller, in most cases, will make
the text harder to read. For the most part kerning alteration is done
when you're having space/alignment issues, like if you need to fit a
lot of text onto one line or you need your text to take up moar white
space. It is NOT normally used for artistic/design purposes and if
that's what you're using it for you're likely an idiot. Basically
you're taking a tool that's used for type setting and trying to use it
as a design tool, which makes you look liak a ****** moron. Granted I
could ~maybe~ see ~some~ stylistic reasons for altering the kerning,
but for the most part...no. Essentially you're just throwing useless
**** at your design.
Here's a fun challenge...why don't you present to us a design that
would directly benefit from kerning alteration and, in your own words,
describe what benefits were achieved from doing it.
Hatter pops himself a beer.
This should be good.
>That's what you do with a program that is specifically designed for
>setting type like InDesign or Quark. They provide that functionality and
>make it readily accessible precisely because it IS something you do
>regularly in a program that is designed for type layout like InDesign.
Type setting isn't a direct part of graphic design, it's a part of
typography you ******* idiot. Granted at a stretch you could say that
a designer can use typography in their designs, but again, unless you
can specifically state HOW and WHY it would be a benefit to the
design...yeah, yer just blowin a goat.
>Did you know that InDesign even provides two distinct ways of altering
>kerning, one based on the kerning table for the font (metric kerning)
>and one that is used for combining unique, unmatched letter pairs not
>from the same font so they wont have a kerning table that would set
>kerning values for letter pairs (optical kerning).
There are actually even moar ways to play with kerning than that.
>But hey, you go on pretending you know what you're talking about. That's
>a good way to rise above minimum wage in those 3 jobs your contemplating
>taking. You tell them all about kerning on your first day and how they
>shouldn't " EVER alter the default kerning setting unless you had some
> VERY specific stylistic reason to do so." They'll be impressed with
>your graphic design knowledge. That's a good idea.
....so basically what you just said is that "real" graphic designers
**** around with kerning settings without actually having any reason
to do so other than they think it's the ~professional~ thing to do.
Yes, yes you really are THAT ****** stupid...and coincidentally it's
one of the reasons you AREN'T working in this field, Freddie boi. And
no, your dead end free lance site doesn't count:
http://www.leafpublishing.com
You best not quit YOUR day job anytime, you poser class dipshit.
**** you're so ****** stupid you can't even match your logo banner
into your site design. Then again maybe you're liak Drew and you just
don't know how to do anything:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.2600/msg/1a0b51e287439927
Is that it, Feddy? Do you just not know anything at all? nods
And yes, anyone looking at your site (or Drew's) can plainly see why
it is you spaz out over my work all the time. To put it bluntly,
you're a jealous little snit who covets my abilities whilst being
horribly butthurt over my general attitude online.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally ***** slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty ******* high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of **** itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )