Chocolate Jesus exhibit cancelled

<toastmilque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 1, 10:04 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> toastmil...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture which,
>> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him suspended
>> >> in air
>> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>> >Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
>> >allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>>
>> Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S.
>> Constitution's
>> dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.
>
> Not at all. Where did the protestors attempt to do nullify free
> speech?

The exhibit was SHUT DOWN.

Some "protesters" sent DEATH THREATS. That's NOT free speech.
 
lorad474@cs.com wrote:
>On Apr 1, 8:09 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> lorad...@cs.com wrote:
>> >On Mar 31, 2:50 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> A CHOCOLATE JESUS in an ART GALLERY is NOT BURNING A CHURCH.
>> >> ****ing nutcase
>> >You attempt to destroy the basis of other people's belief system.
>> You insane cultists do that perfectly well all on your own.
>> Face it, moron: You insane Christians are zero different than
>> the rest of the religious loons that you hate filled morons
>> want to murder all around the world.
>Stupid mountain tricycle boy, Please just shut up and trike away.

This is what Christianity has devolved to, folks. Lovely, isn't it?

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On Apr 1, 9:46 pm, Scotius <wolvz...@mnsi.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:07:13 GMT, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rice) wrote:
> >"Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >><lorad...@cs.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1175407697.597730.308670@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Mar 31, 12:22 pm, The Pretzel <sal...@roldgold.net> wrote:
> >>> Up yours, pretzal.
> >>Pretzel Jesus!
> >>Brilliant!
>
> >I wonder what these insane culists think of their fellow Christian
> >Jack Shick's comic book "Death Cookie." }:-}
>
> >I see one of these Christian kooks complains about "liberals"
> >burning down Christian churches. Well every time a Christian
> >church is burned down, it's nearly always 100% some honkey
> >Christian mother**** that did it.
>
> You're a honkey Frederic.
>
>
>
>
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:09:15 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

>lorad474@cs.com wrote:
>>On Mar 31, 2:50 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> A CHOCOLATE JESUS in an ART GALLERY is NOT BURNING A CHURCH.
>>> ****ing nutcase
>>You attempt to destroy the basis of other people's belief system.
>
>You insane cultists do that perfectly well all on your own.
>
>Face it, moron: You insane Christians are zero different than
>the rest of the religious loons that you hate filled morons
>want to murder all around the world.

Is that how they are? Tell us when Pat Robertson wants to
behead you.

>
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>Insane Christofascist rightards think peanut butter debunks
>science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504
 
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 00:39:39 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

>lorad474@cs.com wrote:
>>On Apr 1, 8:09 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>>> lorad...@cs.com wrote:
>>> >On Mar 31, 2:50 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> A CHOCOLATE JESUS in an ART GALLERY is NOT BURNING A CHURCH.
>>> >> ****ing nutcase
>>> >You attempt to destroy the basis of other people's belief system.
>>> You insane cultists do that perfectly well all on your own.
>>> Face it, moron: You insane Christians are zero different than
>>> the rest of the religious loons that you hate filled morons
>>> want to murder all around the world.
>>Stupid mountain tricycle boy, Please just shut up and trike away.
>
>This is what Christianity has devolved to, folks. Lovely, isn't it?

Actually, he's quite right. You are stupid, you're always
posting BS stories about having been up on the mountain and having
seen a Republican in a truck or SUV, and you are always yapping about
how you bike around often. I think it's great that you're getting
exercise, but I could do without the made up stories of truck and SUV
accidents.

>
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>Insane Christofascist rightards think peanut butter debunks
>science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504
 
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:04:38 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

>toastmilque@yahoo.com wrote:
>>On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture which,
>>> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him suspended in air
>>> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>>Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
>>allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>
>Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S. Constitution's
>dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.

Ah, I see. So you think that when the founding fathers put the
"freedom of speech and expression" thing in the big document, they
didn't necessarily mean "You can speak out as much as you want against
any politician, individual, etc, with just cause, and say what you
believe even though it might be at odds with a government's ideas",
but rather "You can make stupid pieces of what you call art to show to
people, mocking other's beliefs, and you don't have to put up with
anyone saying anything nasty about YOU"?
You're an idiot frederic. I told you this before, and you
should have payed attention.

>
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>Insane Christofascist rightards think peanut butter debunks
>science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504
 
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:07:13 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

>"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>><lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
>>news:1175407697.597730.308670@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 31, 12:22 pm, The Pretzel <sal...@roldgold.net> wrote:
>>> Up yours, pretzal.
>>Pretzel Jesus!
>>Brilliant!
>
>I wonder what these insane culists think of their fellow Christian
>Jack Shick's comic book "Death Cookie." }:-}
>
>I see one of these Christian kooks complains about "liberals"
>burning down Christian churches. Well every time a Christian
>church is burned down, it's nearly always 100% some honkey
>Christian mother**** that did it.

You're a honkey Frederic.

>
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>Insane Christofascist rightards think peanut butter debunks
>science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504
 
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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> lorad474@cs.com wrote:
>>On Apr 1, 8:09 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>>> lorad...@cs.com wrote:
>>> >On Mar 31, 2:50 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> A CHOCOLATE JESUS in an ART GALLERY is NOT BURNING A CHURCH.
>>> >> ****ing nutcase
>>> >You attempt to destroy the basis of other people's belief system.
>>> You insane cultists do that perfectly well all on your own.
>>> Face it, moron: You insane Christians are zero different than
>>> the rest of the religious loons that you hate filled morons
>>> want to murder all around the world.
>>Stupid mountain tricycle boy, Please just shut up and trike away.
>
> This is what Christianity has devolved to, folks. Lovely, isn't it?

People aren't buying their bullshit.

Now's the time for getting tough!
 
On Apr 1, 6:04 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175459091.517768.155410@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 1:23 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175394355.811157.85290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Mar 31, 5:49 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1175356073.302967.245150@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Chocolate Jesus exhibit cancelled
> >> >> >> Saturday, 31 March 2007, 08:08 GMT 09:08 UK
>
> >> >> >> A New York art gallery has decided to cancel an exhibit of a
> >> >> >> chocolate
> >> >> >> sculpture of Jesus Christ after protests by a US Catholic group.
>
> >> >> >> The six-foot (1.8m) sculpture, entitled "My Sweet Lord", depicts a
> >> >> >> naked
> >> >> >> Jesus Christ with his arms outspread.
>
> >> >> >> The sculpture, by artist Cosimo Cavallaro, was to have been
> >> >> >> displayed
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> Monday at Manhattan's Lab Gallery.
>
> >> >> >> The timing, over Easter Holy Week - the most important part of the
> >> >> >> Christian
> >> >> >> year - provoked an outcry.
>
> >> >> >> The Roger Smith Hotel housing the Lab gallery decided to cancel the
> >> >> >> exhibition after the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights
> >> >> >> called
> >> >> >> for a boycott.
>
> >> >> >> 'Strong-arming'
> >> >> >> "We're delighted with the outcome," said Kiera McCaffrey,
> >> >> >> spokeswoman
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> the League.
>
> >> >> >> Ms McCaffrey had called the exhibit "an assault on Christians".
>
> >> >> >> "They would never dare do something similar with a chocolate statue
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Prophet Mohammed naked with his genitals exposed during Ramadan."
>
> >> >> >> The Lab gallery's artistic director, Matt Semler, has offered his
> >> >> >> resignation, saying the decision to cancel the exhibition was a
> >> >> >> result
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> "strong-arming from people who haven't seen the show, seen what
> >> >> >> we're
> >> >> >> doing.
>
> >> >> >> "They jumped to conclusions completely contrary to our intentions,"
> >> >> >> he
> >> >> >> said.
>
> >> >> >> Mr Semler said the timing of the exhibition - when Christians mark
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> crucifixion and resurrection of Christ - was coincidental.
>
> >> >> >> Canadian-born Mr Cavallaro is known for using food ingredients in
> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> art,
> >> >> >> on one occasion painting a hotel room in mozzarella cheese.
>
> >> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
> >> >> >> which,
> >> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
> >> >> >> suspended
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> air
> >> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>
> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>
> >> >> > Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
> >> >> > allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>
> >> >> I'm saying that there was this story on the web and that I thought
> >> >> people
> >> >> in
> >> >> these groups might be interested.
>
> >> > What part of it did you think they'd find interesting? The part about
> >> > it being chocolate or the part about it being a figure of a naked man?
>
> >> The part where religious nut cases can't take a ****ing joke.
>
> > Hmm, I've read the article twice and still can't find anything in it
> > about the exhibit being a joke. Perhaps if I could read minds like you
> > apparently can I would know what the artists intend truly was.
>
> >> Do you think they put some cloth around the real Jesus' dingdong before
> >> they
> >> NAILED him to a CROSS to DIE in the HEAT?
>
> > I've no idea, but what has that to do with anything?
>
> >> >> It's interesting that YOU ASSUMED what you did.
>
> >> > It interests you when someone points out your hypocrisy? Good, there
> >> > may be hope for you yet.
>
> >> Maybe you can find the hypocrisy, because it's not there. If it were a
> >> chocolate Muhammed or Joseph Smith or Budda or whatever, and the follows
> >> of
> >> the non-chocolate version got pissed off, it would be just as funny.
>
> > Ah, now I see. You find a chocolate Jesus funny. Okay. Now that got
> > that cleared up would you mind answering my original question - do you
> > think these people should not have been allowed to protest?
>
> Of course they can protest.
>
> Are they allowed to deprive the artist of a living? No.

Unless commissioned, artists are not guaranteed money for what they
create, they must earn it. They do that by producing art that people
are willing to buy or support by way of paying to view it. The artists
are free to create but not immune to criticism nor can they deny the
rights of those who wish to criticise from voicing their feelings
about the artists' works.

> Are they allowed to send DEATH THREATS? Take a ****ing guess.

Of course not. But since that isn't what happened here your assertion
is nothing more than the strawman tactic of someone who can't defend
their position. You're way out of your depth here, Roger. Give it up.

> >> Silly self-righteousness over a ****ING JOKE is always funny.- Hide
> >> quoted text -
>
> > Please be sure to keep that in mind the next time Ann Coulter cracks a
> > joke. You wouldn't want people to think you a hypocrit, would you?
>
> Everything Coulter says is a joke. Even more so when she's trying to be
> serious.

Then I can assume that you won't mind my pointing out what a hypocrite
you are the next time you pop up to criticise her work?

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On Apr 1, 6:06 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175459308.417727.174970@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 10:04 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
> >> toastmil...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture which,
> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him suspended
> >> >> in air
> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
> >> >Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
> >> >allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>
> >> Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S.
> >> Constitution's
> >> dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.
>
> > Not at all. Where did the protestors attempt to do nullify free
> > speech?
>
> The exhibit was SHUT DOWN.

That choice was made by the exhibitor.

> Some "protesters" sent DEATH THREATS. That's NOT free speech.

The article says nothing about death threats, LIAR.

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<toastmilque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 1, 6:04 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175459091.517768.155410@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 1, 1:23 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1175394355.811157.85290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Mar 31, 5:49 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:1175356073.302967.245150@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> > On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Chocolate Jesus exhibit cancelled
>> >> >> >> Saturday, 31 March 2007, 08:08 GMT 09:08 UK
>>
>> >> >> >> A New York art gallery has decided to cancel an exhibit of a
>> >> >> >> chocolate
>> >> >> >> sculpture of Jesus Christ after protests by a US Catholic group.
>>
>> >> >> >> The six-foot (1.8m) sculpture, entitled "My Sweet Lord", depicts
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> naked
>> >> >> >> Jesus Christ with his arms outspread.
>>
>> >> >> >> The sculpture, by artist Cosimo Cavallaro, was to have been
>> >> >> >> displayed
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> Monday at Manhattan's Lab Gallery.
>>
>> >> >> >> The timing, over Easter Holy Week - the most important part of
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Christian
>> >> >> >> year - provoked an outcry.
>>
>> >> >> >> The Roger Smith Hotel housing the Lab gallery decided to cancel
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> exhibition after the Catholic League for Religious and Civil
>> >> >> >> Rights
>> >> >> >> called
>> >> >> >> for a boycott.
>>
>> >> >> >> 'Strong-arming'
>> >> >> >> "We're delighted with the outcome," said Kiera McCaffrey,
>> >> >> >> spokeswoman
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> the League.
>>
>> >> >> >> Ms McCaffrey had called the exhibit "an assault on Christians".
>>
>> >> >> >> "They would never dare do something similar with a chocolate
>> >> >> >> statue
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Prophet Mohammed naked with his genitals exposed during
>> >> >> >> Ramadan."
>>
>> >> >> >> The Lab gallery's artistic director, Matt Semler, has offered
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> resignation, saying the decision to cancel the exhibition was a
>> >> >> >> result
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> "strong-arming from people who haven't seen the show, seen what
>> >> >> >> we're
>> >> >> >> doing.
>>
>> >> >> >> "They jumped to conclusions completely contrary to our
>> >> >> >> intentions,"
>> >> >> >> he
>> >> >> >> said.
>>
>> >> >> >> Mr Semler said the timing of the exhibition - when Christians
>> >> >> >> mark
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> crucifixion and resurrection of Christ - was coincidental.
>>
>> >> >> >> Canadian-born Mr Cavallaro is known for using food ingredients
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> his
>> >> >> >> art,
>> >> >> >> on one occasion painting a hotel room in mozzarella cheese.
>>
>> >> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
>> >> >> >> which,
>> >> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
>> >> >> >> suspended
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> air
>> >> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>>
>> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>>
>> >> >> > Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
>> >> >> > allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>>
>> >> >> I'm saying that there was this story on the web and that I thought
>> >> >> people
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> these groups might be interested.
>>
>> >> > What part of it did you think they'd find interesting? The part
>> >> > about
>> >> > it being chocolate or the part about it being a figure of a naked
>> >> > man?
>>
>> >> The part where religious nut cases can't take a ****ing joke.
>>
>> > Hmm, I've read the article twice and still can't find anything in it
>> > about the exhibit being a joke. Perhaps if I could read minds like you
>> > apparently can I would know what the artists intend truly was.
>>
>> >> Do you think they put some cloth around the real Jesus' dingdong
>> >> before
>> >> they
>> >> NAILED him to a CROSS to DIE in the HEAT?
>>
>> > I've no idea, but what has that to do with anything?
>>
>> >> >> It's interesting that YOU ASSUMED what you did.
>>
>> >> > It interests you when someone points out your hypocrisy? Good, there
>> >> > may be hope for you yet.
>>
>> >> Maybe you can find the hypocrisy, because it's not there. If it were a
>> >> chocolate Muhammed or Joseph Smith or Budda or whatever, and the
>> >> follows
>> >> of
>> >> the non-chocolate version got pissed off, it would be just as funny.
>>
>> > Ah, now I see. You find a chocolate Jesus funny. Okay. Now that got
>> > that cleared up would you mind answering my original question - do you
>> > think these people should not have been allowed to protest?
>>
>> Of course they can protest.
>>
>> Are they allowed to deprive the artist of a living? No.
>
> Unless commissioned, artists are not guaranteed money for what they
> create, they must earn it. They do that by producing art that people
> are willing to buy or support by way of paying to view it. The artists
> are free to create but not immune to criticism nor can they deny the
> rights of those who wish to criticise from voicing their feelings
> about the artists' works.

Artists get work by having their work seen.

Art is bought at galllery shows.


>
>> Are they allowed to send DEATH THREATS? Take a ****ing guess.
>
> Of course not. But since that isn't what happened here your assertion
> is nothing more than the strawman tactic of someone who can't defend
> their position. You're way out of your depth here, Roger. Give it up.

There were death threats.

Keep up.


>
>> >> Silly self-righteousness over a ****ING JOKE is always funny.- Hide
>> >> quoted text -
>>
>> > Please be sure to keep that in mind the next time Ann Coulter cracks a
>> > joke. You wouldn't want people to think you a hypocrit, would you?
>>
>> Everything Coulter says is a joke. Even more so when she's trying to be
>> serious.
>
> Then I can assume that you won't mind my pointing out what a hypocrite
> you are the next time you pop up to criticise her work?

I won't be causing her "work" to be run. I won't be sending her any death
threats.
 
<toastmilque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 1, 6:06 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175459308.417727.174970@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 1, 10:04 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> >> toastmil...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
>> >> >> which,
>> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
>> >> >> suspended
>> >> >> in air
>> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>> >> >Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
>> >> >allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>>
>> >> Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S.
>> >> Constitution's
>> >> dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.
>>
>> > Not at all. Where did the protestors attempt to do nullify free
>> > speech?
>>
>> The exhibit was SHUT DOWN.
>
> That choice was made by the exhibitor.
>
>> Some "protesters" sent DEATH THREATS. That's NOT free speech.
>
> The article says nothing about death threats, LIAR.

Other articles do. Ignoramus.
 
On Apr 2, 7:12 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175521696.249193.110700@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 6:04 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175459091.517768.155410@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Apr 1, 1:23 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1175394355.811157.85290@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Mar 31, 5:49 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >> >>news:1175356073.302967.245150@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> >> > On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Chocolate Jesus exhibit cancelled
> >> >> >> >> Saturday, 31 March 2007, 08:08 GMT 09:08 UK
>
> >> >> >> >> A New York art gallery has decided to cancel an exhibit of a
> >> >> >> >> chocolate
> >> >> >> >> sculpture of Jesus Christ after protests by a US Catholic group.
>
> >> >> >> >> The six-foot (1.8m) sculpture, entitled "My Sweet Lord", depicts
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> naked
> >> >> >> >> Jesus Christ with his arms outspread.
>
> >> >> >> >> The sculpture, by artist Cosimo Cavallaro, was to have been
> >> >> >> >> displayed
> >> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> >> Monday at Manhattan's Lab Gallery.
>
> >> >> >> >> The timing, over Easter Holy Week - the most important part of
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Christian
> >> >> >> >> year - provoked an outcry.
>
> >> >> >> >> The Roger Smith Hotel housing the Lab gallery decided to cancel
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> exhibition after the Catholic League for Religious and Civil
> >> >> >> >> Rights
> >> >> >> >> called
> >> >> >> >> for a boycott.
>
> >> >> >> >> 'Strong-arming'
> >> >> >> >> "We're delighted with the outcome," said Kiera McCaffrey,
> >> >> >> >> spokeswoman
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> the League.
>
> >> >> >> >> Ms McCaffrey had called the exhibit "an assault on Christians".
>
> >> >> >> >> "They would never dare do something similar with a chocolate
> >> >> >> >> statue
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Prophet Mohammed naked with his genitals exposed during
> >> >> >> >> Ramadan."
>
> >> >> >> >> The Lab gallery's artistic director, Matt Semler, has offered
> >> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> >> resignation, saying the decision to cancel the exhibition was a
> >> >> >> >> result
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> "strong-arming from people who haven't seen the show, seen what
> >> >> >> >> we're
> >> >> >> >> doing.
>
> >> >> >> >> "They jumped to conclusions completely contrary to our
> >> >> >> >> intentions,"
> >> >> >> >> he
> >> >> >> >> said.
>
> >> >> >> >> Mr Semler said the timing of the exhibition - when Christians
> >> >> >> >> mark
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> crucifixion and resurrection of Christ - was coincidental.
>
> >> >> >> >> Canadian-born Mr Cavallaro is known for using food ingredients
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> >> art,
> >> >> >> >> on one occasion painting a hotel room in mozzarella cheese.
>
> >> >> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
> >> >> >> >> which,
> >> >> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
> >> >> >> >> suspended
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> air
> >> >> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>
> >> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>
> >> >> >> > Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
> >> >> >> > allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>
> >> >> >> I'm saying that there was this story on the web and that I thought
> >> >> >> people
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> these groups might be interested.
>
> >> >> > What part of it did you think they'd find interesting? The part
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > it being chocolate or the part about it being a figure of a naked
> >> >> > man?
>
> >> >> The part where religious nut cases can't take a ****ing joke.
>
> >> > Hmm, I've read the article twice and still can't find anything in it
> >> > about the exhibit being a joke. Perhaps if I could read minds like you
> >> > apparently can I would know what the artists intend truly was.
>
> >> >> Do you think they put some cloth around the real Jesus' dingdong
> >> >> before
> >> >> they
> >> >> NAILED him to a CROSS to DIE in the HEAT?
>
> >> > I've no idea, but what has that to do with anything?
>
> >> >> >> It's interesting that YOU ASSUMED what you did.
>
> >> >> > It interests you when someone points out your hypocrisy? Good, there
> >> >> > may be hope for you yet.
>
> >> >> Maybe you can find the hypocrisy, because it's not there. If it were a
> >> >> chocolate Muhammed or Joseph Smith or Budda or whatever, and the
> >> >> follows
> >> >> of
> >> >> the non-chocolate version got pissed off, it would be just as funny.
>
> >> > Ah, now I see. You find a chocolate Jesus funny. Okay. Now that got
> >> > that cleared up would you mind answering my original question - do you
> >> > think these people should not have been allowed to protest?
>
> >> Of course they can protest.
>
> >> Are they allowed to deprive the artist of a living? No.
>
> > Unless commissioned, artists are not guaranteed money for what they
> > create, they must earn it. They do that by producing art that people
> > are willing to buy or support by way of paying to view it. The artists
> > are free to create but not immune to criticism nor can they deny the
> > rights of those who wish to criticise from voicing their feelings
> > about the artists' works.
>
> Artists get work by having their work seen.
>
> Art is bought at galllery shows.

The protesters didn't stop the art from being seen. The decision to
shut down the exhibit was made by the exhibitor.

> >> Are they allowed to send DEATH THREATS? Take a ****ing guess.
>
> > Of course not. But since that isn't what happened here your assertion
> > is nothing more than the strawman tactic of someone who can't defend
> > their position. You're way out of your depth here, Roger. Give it up.
>
> There were death threats.

Cite?

> Keep up.
>
>
>
> >> >> Silly self-righteousness over a ****ING JOKE is always funny.- Hide
> >> >> quoted text -
>
> >> > Please be sure to keep that in mind the next time Ann Coulter cracks a
> >> > joke. You wouldn't want people to think you a hypocrit, would you?
>
> >> Everything Coulter says is a joke. Even more so when she's trying to be
> >> serious.
>
> > Then I can assume that you won't mind my pointing out what a hypocrite
> > you are the next time you pop up to criticise her work?
>
> I won't be causing her "work" to be run. I won't be sending her any death
> threats.

You wouldn't have to. You claimed that - "Silly self-righteousness
over a ****ING JOKE is always funny."

- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
On Apr 2, 7:12 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175521851.082285.43780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 6:06 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1175459308.417727.174970@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Apr 1, 10:04 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
> >> >> toastmil...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> >On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
> >> >> >> which,
> >> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
> >> >> >> suspended
> >> >> >> in air
> >> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
> >> >> >Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
> >> >> >allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>
> >> >> Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S.
> >> >> Constitution's
> >> >> dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.
>
> >> > Not at all. Where did the protestors attempt to do nullify free
> >> > speech?
>
> >> The exhibit was SHUT DOWN.
>
> > That choice was made by the exhibitor.
>
> >> Some "protesters" sent DEATH THREATS. That's NOT free speech.
>
> > The article says nothing about death threats, LIAR.
>
> Other articles do. Ignoramus.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then provide a cite, LIAR.
 
<toastmilque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175610292.775220.142370@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 2, 7:12 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1175521851.082285.43780@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 1, 6:06 pm, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> <toastmil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1175459308.417727.174970@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Apr 1, 10:04 am, f...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
>> >> >> toastmil...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >> >On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> He used 200 pounds (90 kg) of chocolate to make the sculpture
>> >> >> >> which,
>> >> >> >> unusually, depicts Jesus without a loincloth. It showed him
>> >> >> >> suspended
>> >> >> >> in air
>> >> >> >> with his arms spread wide, as if crucified.
>> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6513155.stm
>> >> >> >Are you saying the people who were offended should not have been
>> >> >> >allowed to protest? How very liberal of you.
>>
>> >> >> Are you saying that Christofascists get to nullify the U. S.
>> >> >> Constitution's
>> >> >> dictate for freedom of speech? How very Christotaliban of you.
>>
>> >> > Not at all. Where did the protestors attempt to do nullify free
>> >> > speech?
>>
>> >> The exhibit was SHUT DOWN.
>>
>> > That choice was made by the exhibitor.
>>
>> >> Some "protesters" sent DEATH THREATS. That's NOT free speech.
>>
>> > The article says nothing about death threats, LIAR.
>>
>> Other articles do. Ignoramus.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Then provide a cite, LIAR.

Learn how to use a search engine.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/30/AR2007033001276.html?hpid=entnews

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2995872&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/30/chocolate.jesus.ap/index.html

www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2007-03-30-chocolate-jesus_N.htm

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/30/entertainment/main2629740.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_2629740

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1809752/posts

www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/3/30/212142.shtml?s=icp
 

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