CLINTONS' AND CYBERSTALKERS

[DGVREIMAN]

CLINTONS AND CYBERSTALKERS



I received this Email today from someone on alt.politics
that has been keeping track of the cyberstalker SteveL for
me and watching the smear merchant gang this anonymous
cyberstalker incites and belongs to self destruct.

It is worth a read, but is it true? If it is the rise of
Adolph Hitler to power has nothing on the Clintons.... If it
is not true then it may be the start of a right-wing
conspiracy to smear the Clintons....input is appreciated and
this is not a copyrighted article as the absence of my
copyright notice clearly indicates.

I believe most Americans are looking for a Democratic to
take the Oval Office next year, and I suspect that person
with be Hillary Clinton. My personal opinion is that I doubt
if she could do any worse considering she is going to leave
our troops alone that are fighting our war on terror, and
she said she will continue to back General Petraeus and the
new "surge" policies that have finally been implemented by
our military officers - (kill the wounded and eat the
prisoners). (About time).

As long as she does not screw up our Health Care, I suspect
it is time for a change from a conservative government to a
liberal one. I believe the alterations between Conservative
and Libel governments every eight years or so is one of the
main reasons our country stays strong and viable. (I don't
like "Goose Steppers" anymore than I like "Cut and Runners,"
and I believe most Americans feel the same way).

(BTW stay tuned for a full exposure of Nigel Brooks and Tom
Rau's "criminal libel" in respect to them repeatedly
claiming I said I had a Purple Heart Medal even after I told
them several times I did not write nor did I post any such
claims, and further have stated the exact opposite before
and after the alleged quip these smear merchants are
fraudulently referencing as coming from me (also recently
forged by the anonymous cyberstalker and copyright infringer
Stevel). I was saving this item for court but what the hell,
I have many more suprprises for the smear gang anyway, and
just think, I have not even started to defend myself from
their fraud, forgeries and outright libel).

Doug Grant (Tm)

Army Strong

Happy Birthday

> -----Original Message-----
> >
>>
>> Subject: So you want to work for the Clintons? Just a
>> quick refresher
>>
>> course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends"
>> of the
>> Clintons.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner
>> died of an
>> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He
>> was a key
>> witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was
>> murdered July 1997
>> at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder
>> happened just
>> after she was to go public with her story of sexual
>> harassment in the
>> White House.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and
>> colleague of
>> Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a
>> gunshot
>> wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
>> Chairman.
>> Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A
>> pathologist close to the
>> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top
>> of Brown's
>> skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his
>> death Brown was
>> being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness
>> to cut a
>> deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the
>> plane also died.
>> A few days later the air Traffic controller committed
>> suicide.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
>> Clinton fund
>> raising organization died in a private plane crash in
>> July 1992.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6- Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political
>> Director>> found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock,
>> September 1992. Described
>> by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
>>
>>
>>
>> 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November
>> 1993 deep in
>> the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a
>> suicide. Ed
>> Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey
>> claimed Bill>> Clinton groped her in the oval office in
>> the White House. Ed Willey
>> was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
>>
>>
>>
>> 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security
>> team in
>> Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted
>> intersection outside
>> Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a
>> dossier on Clinton.
>> He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After
>> he died the
>> files were mysteriously removed from his house.
>>
>>
>>
>> 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was
>> reported that he
>> had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of
>> influential
>> people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
>>
>>
>>
>> 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
>> apparent hanging
>> suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
>>
>>
>>
>> 11- Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
>> Ferguson, was
>> found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot
>> to her head.
>
>> It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
>> packed
>> suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson
>> was a
>> co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
>> lawsuit.
>> Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
>> Paula Jones.
>>
>>
>>
>> 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of
>> Kathy Ferguson.
>>> Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was
>>> found dead in
>> June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the
>> grave site
>> of his fiance.
>>
>>
>>
>> 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan
>> Lassater, died by
>> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
>> His client was
>> a convicted drug distributor.
>>>>
>>
>> 14- Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the
>> CIA, was
>> related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling
>> case. She died
>> of three gunshot wounds.
>>
>>
>>
>> 15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with
>> Clinton when he
>> was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to
>> the back of
>> the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of
>> her death.
>>
>>
>>
>> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the
>> deaf from 1978
>> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car
>> accident.
>>
>>
>>
>> 17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.
>> Investigating Mena
>> Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He
>> slit his
>> wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at
>> Mena Airport
>> with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found
>> dead on a
>> toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. Had
>> delivered a
>> report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
>>
>>
>>
>> 19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for
>> Resolution Trust
>> Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia
>> apartment
>> balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
>> Guaranty
>> scandal.
>>
>>
>>
>> 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
>> closely with
>> Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died
>> November 29, 1996.
>> Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at
>> the
>> Department of Commerce.
>>
>>>>
>> 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who
>> gave John
>> Huang's special security clearance, died shortly
>> thereafter in a
>> small plane crash.
>>
>>
>>
>> 22- Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National
>> Chiropractic Health
>> Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve
>> Dickson in a
>> small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
>> Clinton's
>> advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother,
>> stepfather and
>> brother.
>>
>>
>>
>> 23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas ,
>> death was no
>> accident.
>>
>>
>>
>> 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out
>> to Bill
>> Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He
>> was found
>> dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
>>
>>
>>
>> 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His
>> death was a
>> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>>
>>
>>
>> 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser
>> died March
>> 1,1994 when his plane exploded.
>>
>>
>>
>> 27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the
>> track" case.
>> Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena
>> Arkansas airport
>> drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report
>> of death
>> said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later
>> reports claim
>> the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the
>> tracks. Many
>> linked to the case died before their testimony could come
>> before a
>> Grand Jury.
>>
>>>>
>> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY
>> CASE:
>>
>>
>>
>> 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into
>> the back of a
>> truck 7/88.
>>
>>
>>
>> 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov., 1988.
>>
>>
>>
>> 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January
>> 1989.
>>
>>
>>
>> 31-Jeff Rhodes - Was shot, mutilated and found burned in
>> a trash dump
>> in April 1989.
>>
>>
>>
>> 33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner
>> ruled his
>> death was due to "natural causes".
>>
>>
>>
>> 34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the
>> front seat of
>> his
>
>> pickup truck in June 1990.
>>
>>
>>
>> 35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry
>> deaths. He was
>> killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
>>
>>
>>
>> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
>>
>>
>>
>> 36-Major William S. Barkley Jr.>>
>> 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
>>
>> 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
>>
>> 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
>>
>> 40-Maj or General William Robertson
>>
>> 41-Col. William Densberger
>>
>> 42-Col. Robert Kelly
>>
>> 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
>>
>> 44-Steve Willis
>>
>> 45-Robert Williams
>>
>> 46-Conway LeBleu
>>
>> 47-Todd McKeehan
>>
>>
>>
>> Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public
>> become aware
>> of what happens to "friends" of the Clintons.
>
>
>
_________________________________________________________________

 

[SteveL]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:05:12 -0800, "DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

>CLINTONS AND CYBERSTALKERS
>
>
>
>I received this Email today from someone on alt.politics
>that has been keeping track of the cyberstalker SteveL for
>me and watching the smear merchant gang this anonymous
>cyberstalker incites and belongs to self destruct.

You mean someone who's been reading my posts.....

What's the matter Dougie. You post to alt.politics but don't read it?

You need someone to "keep track" of me?

How sad for you.

>
>It is worth a read, but is it true? If it is the rise of
>Adolph Hitler to power has nothing on the Clintons.... If it
>is not true then it may be the start of a right-wing
>conspiracy to smear the Clintons....input is appreciated and
>this is not a copyrighted article as the absence of my
>copyright notice clearly indicates.
>
>I believe most Americans are looking for a Democratic to
>take the Oval Office next year, and I suspect that person
>with be Hillary Clinton. My personal opinion is that I doubt
>if she could do any worse considering she is going to leave
>our troops alone that are fighting our war on terror, and
>she said she will continue to back General Petraeus and the
>new "surge" policies that have finally been implemented by
>our military officers - (kill the wounded and eat the
>prisoners). (About time).
>
>As long as she does not screw up our Health Care, I suspect
>it is time for a change from a conservative government to a
>liberal one. I believe the alterations between Conservative
>and Libel governments every eight years or so is one of the
>main reasons our country stays strong and viable. (I don't
>like "Goose Steppers" anymore than I like "Cut and Runners,"
>and I believe most Americans feel the same way).
>
>(BTW stay tuned for a full exposure of Nigel Brooks and Tom
>Rau's "criminal libel" in respect to them repeatedly
>claiming I said I had a Purple Heart Medal even after I told
>them several times I did not write nor did I post any such
>claims,

So what? That's not evidence. You lied.

> and further have stated the exact opposite before

So what? That's not evidence. You lied.

>and after the alleged quip these smear merchants are
>fraudulently referencing as coming from me (also recently
>forged by the anonymous cyberstalker and copyright infringer
>Stevel).

Screen shot from Google as well as the full post with headers.
That's what you call evidence, Dougie.

Not a bunch of whiny "But I didn't post that claim that I had a Purple
Heart!, even though it came from my PC, was posted in my name, and
carried on my turn of an argument I'd had for about 6 posts with
ChipC!!"

> I was saving this item for court but what the hell,
>I have many more suprprises for the smear gang anyway, and
>just think, I have not even started to defend myself from
>their fraud, forgeries and outright libel).

Ooh lets's see what you were saving for court then!

Hmm let's see.

>
>Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>Army Strong
>
>Happy Birthday
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >
>>>
>>> Subject: So you want to work for the Clintons? Just a
>>> quick refresher
>>>
>>> course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends"
>>> of the
>>> Clintons.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner
>>> died of an
>>> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He
>>> was a key
>>> witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was
>>> murdered July 1997
>>> at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder
>>> happened just
>>> after she was to go public with her story of sexual
>>> harassment in the
>>> White House.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and
>>> colleague of
>>> Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a
>>> gunshot
>>> wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
>>> Chairman.
>>> Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A
>>> pathologist close to the
>>> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top
>>> of Brown's
>>> skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his
>>> death Brown was
>>> being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness
>>> to cut a
>>> deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the
>>> plane also died.
>>> A few days later the air Traffic controller committed
>>> suicide.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
>>> Clinton fund
>>> raising organization died in a private plane crash in
>>> July 1992.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6- Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political
>>> Director>> found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock,
>>> September 1992. Described
>>> by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November
>>> 1993 deep in
>>> the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a
>>> suicide. Ed
>>> Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey
>>> claimed Bill>> Clinton groped her in the oval office in
>>> the White House. Ed Willey
>>> was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security
>>> team in
>>> Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted
>>> intersection outside
>>> Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a
>>> dossier on Clinton.
>>> He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After
>>> he died the
>>> files were mysteriously removed from his house.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was
>>> reported that he
>>> had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of
>>> influential
>>> people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
>>> apparent hanging
>>> suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11- Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
>>> Ferguson, was
>>> found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot
>>> to her head.
>>
>>> It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
>>> packed
>>> suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson
>>> was a
>>> co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
>>> lawsuit.
>>> Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
>>> Paula Jones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of
>>> Kathy Ferguson.
>>>> Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was
>>>> found dead in
>>> June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the
>>> grave site
>>> of his fiance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan
>>> Lassater, died by
>>> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
>>> His client was
>>> a convicted drug distributor.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> 14- Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the
>>> CIA, was
>>> related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling
>>> case. She died
>>> of three gunshot wounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with
>>> Clinton when he
>>> was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to
>>> the back of
>>> the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of
>>> her death.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the
>>> deaf from 1978
>>> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.
>>> Investigating Mena
>>> Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He
>>> slit his
>>> wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at
>>> Mena Airport
>>> with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found
>>> dead on a
>>> toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. Had
>>> delivered a
>>> report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for
>>> Resolution Trust
>>> Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia
>>> apartment
>>> balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
>>> Guaranty
>>> scandal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
>>> closely with
>>> Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died
>>> November 29, 1996.
>>> Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at
>>> the
>>> Department of Commerce.
>>>
>>>>>
>>> 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who
>>> gave John
>>> Huang's special security clearance, died shortly
>>> thereafter in a
>>> small plane crash.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 22- Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National
>>> Chiropractic Health
>>> Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve
>>> Dickson in a
>>> small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
>>> Clinton's
>>> advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother,
>>> stepfather and
>>> brother.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas ,
>>> death was no
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out
>>> to Bill
>>> Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He
>>> was found
>>> dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His
>>> death was a
>>> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser
>>> died March
>>> 1,1994 when his plane exploded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the
>>> track" case.
>>> Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena
>>> Arkansas airport
>>> drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report
>>> of death
>>> said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later
>>> reports claim
>>> the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the
>>> tracks. Many
>>> linked to the case died before their testimony could come
>>> before a
>>> Grand Jury.
>>>
>>>>>
>>> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY
>>> CASE:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into
>>> the back of a
>>> truck 7/88.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov., 1988.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January
>>> 1989.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 31-Jeff Rhodes - Was shot, mutilated and found burned in
>>> a trash dump
>>> in April 1989.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner
>>> ruled his
>>> death was due to "natural causes".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the
>>> front seat of
>>> his
>>
>>> pickup truck in June 1990.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry
>>> deaths. He was
>>> killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 36-Major William S. Barkley Jr.>>
>>> 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
>>>
>>> 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
>>>
>>> 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
>>>
>>> 40-Maj or General William Robertson
>>>
>>> 41-Col. William Densberger
>>>
>>> 42-Col. Robert Kelly
>>>
>>> 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
>>>
>>> 44-Steve Willis
>>>
>>> 45-Robert Williams
>>>
>>> 46-Conway LeBleu
>>>
>>> 47-Todd McKeehan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public
>>> become aware
>>> of what happens to "friends" of the Clintons.
>>
>>
>>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>


Huh? You were saving this for court???

Figures.

Crazy *******.

 

[DGVREIMAN]

Mr. Cyberstalker SteveL:

Rebuttal:

My lawyer and I have informed you many times to cease and
desist your cyberstalking, fraud, forgeries, death threats,
threats of violence, criminal libel and other crimes and
overt acts we believe you are perpetrating or inciting
against me on a regular and contrived basis. Still you
persist with your anonymous fraud and cyberstalking. You
must be aware of the repercussions of your actions yet you
arrogantly continue with your cyberstalking and criminal
acts even in the State you reside.

Your fraud is glaring. Your forgery is obvious. Google has
not replaced the post. Your version of it is not complete
and therefore you have forged yet another post. There is no
screen shot of the post and it cannot be found in any Google
archive.

However, I need to clear up one issue before I take further
action in respect to this issue:

Are you stating as a statement of fact on this forum and on
others that I, Douglas G.V. Reiman, did personally write and
post a post that claimed I had won the Order of the Purple
Heart, (a Purple Heart Medal)?

If that is your claim, then please make your criminal libel
as clear as possible so there can be no question as to
precisely what you are now fraudulently stating about me.

Doug Grant (Tm)

"SteveL" <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in
message
news:Lu-dnauyYIl-QKnanZ2dnUVZ8qminZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 14:05:12 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
> <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET>
> wrote:
>
>>CLINTONS AND CYBERSTALKERS
>>
>>
>>
>>I received this Email today from someone on alt.politics
>>that has been keeping track of the cyberstalker SteveL for
>>me and watching the smear merchant gang this anonymous
>>cyberstalker incites and belongs to self destruct.
>
>>
>>
>>It is worth a read, but is it true? If it is the rise of
>>Adolph Hitler to power has nothing on the Clintons.... If
>>it
>>is not true then it may be the start of a right-wing
>>conspiracy to smear the Clintons....input is appreciated
>>and
>>this is not a copyrighted article as the absence of my
>>copyright notice clearly indicates.
>>
>>I believe most Americans are looking for a Democratic to
>>take the Oval Office next year, and I suspect that person
>>with be Hillary Clinton. My personal opinion is that I
>>doubt
>>if she could do any worse considering she is going to
>>leave
>>our troops alone that are fighting our war on terror, and
>>she said she will continue to back General Petraeus and
>>the
>>new "surge" policies that have finally been implemented by
>>our military officers - (kill the wounded and eat the
>>prisoners). (About time).
>>
>>As long as she does not screw up our Health Care, I
>>suspect
>>it is time for a change from a conservative government to
>>a
>>liberal one. I believe the alterations between
>>Conservative
>>and Libel governments every eight years or so is one of
>>the
>>main reasons our country stays strong and viable. (I don't
>>like "Goose Steppers" anymore than I like "Cut and
>>Runners,"
>>and I believe most Americans feel the same way).
>>
>>(BTW stay tuned for a full exposure of Nigel Brooks and
>>Tom
>>Rau's "criminal libel" in respect to them repeatedly
>>claiming I said I had a Purple Heart Medal even after I
>>told
>>them several times I did not write nor did I post any such
>>claims,
>
>
>> and further have stated the exact opposite before
>
>>
>>and after the alleged quip these smear merchants are
>>fraudulently referencing as coming from me (also recently
>>forged by the anonymous cyberstalker and copyright
>>infringer
>>Stevel).
>
> Screen shot from Google as well as the full post with
> headers.
> That's what you call evidence, Dougie.
>
> >
>> I was saving this item for court but what the hell,
>>I have many more suprprises for the smear gang anyway, and
>>just think, I have not even started to defend myself from
>>their fraud, forgeries and outright libel).
>
>>
>>
>>Doug Grant (Tm)
>>
>>Army Strong
>>
>>Happy Birthday
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Subject: So you want to work for the Clintons? Just a
>>>> quick refresher
>>>>
>>>> course lest we forget what has happened to many
>>>> "friends"
>>>> of the
>>>> Clintons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater
>>>> partner
>>>> died of an
>>>> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement.
>>>> He
>>>> was a key
>>>> witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was
>>>> murdered July 1997
>>>> at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder
>>>> happened just
>>>> after she was to go public with her story of sexual
>>>> harassment in the
>>>> White House.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and
>>>> colleague of
>>>> Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of
>>>> a
>>>> gunshot
>>>> wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
>>>> Chairman.
>>>> Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A
>>>> pathologist close to the
>>>> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top
>>>> of Brown's
>>>> skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his
>>>> death Brown was
>>>> being investigated, and spoke publicly of his
>>>> willingness
>>>> to cut a
>>>> deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the
>>>> plane also died.
>>>> A few days later the air Traffic controller committed
>>>> suicide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
>>>> Clinton fund
>>>> raising organization died in a private plane crash in
>>>> July 1992.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6- Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee
>>>> Political
>>>> Director>> found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock,
>>>> September 1992. Described
>>>> by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November
>>>> 1993 deep in
>>>> the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a
>>>> suicide. Ed
>>>> Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey
>>>> claimed Bill>> Clinton groped her in the oval office in
>>>> the White House. Ed Willey
>>>> was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security
>>>> team in
>>>> Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted
>>>> intersection outside
>>>> Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a
>>>> dossier on Clinton.
>>>> He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
>>>> After
>>>> he died the
>>>> files were mysteriously removed from his house.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was
>>>> reported that he
>>>> had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of
>>>> influential
>>>> people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
>>>> apparent hanging
>>>> suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11- Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
>>>> Ferguson, was
>>>> found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a
>>>> gunshot
>>>> to her head.
>>>
>>>> It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
>>>> packed
>>>> suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny
>>>> Ferguson
>>>> was a
>>>> co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones
>>>> lawsuit.
>>>> Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
>>>> Paula Jones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of
>>>> Kathy Ferguson.
>>>>> Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was
>>>>> found dead in
>>>> June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at
>>>> the
>>>> grave site
>>>> of his fiance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan
>>>> Lassater, died by
>>>> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.
>>>> His client was
>>>> a convicted drug distributor.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14- Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for
>>>> the
>>>> CIA, was
>>>> related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling
>>>> case. She died
>>>> of three gunshot wounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with
>>>> Clinton when he
>>>> was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound
>>>> to
>>>> the back of
>>>> the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of
>>>> her death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the
>>>> deaf from 1978
>>>> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car
>>>> accident.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.
>>>> Investigating Mena
>>>> Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He
>>>> slit his
>>>> wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at
>>>> Mena Airport
>>>> with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found
>>>> dead on a
>>>> toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment.
>>>> Had
>>>> delivered a
>>>> report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for
>>>> Resolution Trust
>>>> Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia
>>>> apartment
>>>> balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the
>>>> Morgan
>>>> Guaranty
>>>> scandal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
>>>> closely with
>>>> Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died
>>>> November 29, 1996.
>>>> Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office
>>>> at
>>>> the
>>>> Department of Commerce.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce
>>>> who
>>>> gave John
>>>> Huang's special security clearance, died shortly
>>>> thereafter in a
>>>> small plane crash.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 22- Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National
>>>> Chiropractic Health
>>>> Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve
>>>> Dickson in a
>>>> small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
>>>> Clinton's
>>>> advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother,
>>>> stepfather and
>>>> brother.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas
>>>> ,
>>>> death was no
>>>> accident.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made
>>>> out
>>>> to Bill
>>>> Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop.
>>>> He
>>>> was found
>>>> dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His
>>>> death was a
>>>> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser
>>>> died March
>>>> 1,1994 when his plane exploded.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the
>>>> track" case.
>>>> Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena
>>>> Arkansas airport
>>>> drug operation. A controversial case, the initial
>>>> report
>>>> of death
>>>> said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later
>>>> reports claim
>>>> the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the
>>>> tracks. Many
>>>> linked to the case died before their testimony could
>>>> come
>>>> before a
>>>> Grand Jury.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY
>>>> CASE:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into
>>>> the back of a
>>>> truck 7/88.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov., 1988.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January
>>>> 1989.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 31-Jeff Rhodes - Was shot, mutilated and found burned
>>>> in
>>>> a trash dump
>>>> in April 1989.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the
>>>> Coroner
>>>> ruled his
>>>> death was due to "natural causes".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the
>>>> front seat of
>>>> his
>>>
>>>> pickup truck in June 1990.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry
>>>> deaths. He was
>>>> killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 36-Major William S. Barkley Jr.>>
>>>> 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
>>>>
>>>> 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
>>>>
>>>> 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
>>>>
>>>> 40-Maj or General William Robertson
>>>>
>>>> 41-Col. William Densberger
>>>>
>>>> 42-Col. Robert Kelly
>>>>
>>>> 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> 44-Steve Willis
>>>>
>>>> 45-Robert Williams
>>>>
>>>> 46-Conway LeBleu
>>>>
>>>> 47-Todd McKeehan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public
>>>> become aware
>>>> of what happens to "friends" of the Clintons.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
> Huh? You were saving this for court???
>
> Figures.
>
> Crazy *******.

 

[Mac]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:15:59 -0800, "DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

>Mr. Cyberstalker SteveL:
>
>Rebuttal:
>
>My lawyer and I have informed you many times to cease and
>desist...
SNIP

Really?
Your alleged lawyer has actually contacted SteveL ??
By Certified, Return post ??
Really?
---Mac, the Medic

 

[Pepperoni]

"DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
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> Mr. Cyberstalker SteveL:
>
> Rebuttal:
>
> My lawyer and I have informed you many times to cease and desist your
> cyberstalking, fraud, forgeries, death threats, threats of violence,
> criminal libel and other crimes and overt acts we believe you are
> perpetrating or inciting against me on a regular and contrived basis.
> Still you persist with your anonymous fraud and cyberstalking. You must
> be aware of the repercussions of your actions yet you arrogantly continue
> with your cyberstalking and criminal acts even in the State you reside.
>
> Your fraud is glaring. Your forgery is obvious. Google has not replaced
> the post. Your version of it is not complete and therefore you have
> forged yet another post. There is no screen shot of the post and it
> cannot be found in any Google archive.
>
> However, I need to clear up one issue before I take further action in
> respect to this issue:
>
> Are you stating as a statement of fact on this forum and on others that I,
> Douglas G.V. Reiman, did personally write and post a post that claimed I
> had won the Order of the Purple Heart, (a Purple Heart Medal)?
>
> If that is your claim, then please make your criminal libel as clear as
> possible so there can be no question as to precisely what you are now
> fraudulently stating about me.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)
>


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[SteveL]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:15:59 -0800, "DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

>Mr. Cyberstalker SteveL:
>
>Rebuttal:
>
>My lawyer

Is this the lawyer who left you to try to get a subpoena yourself
earlier this year, Mr Pro Se?

>and I have informed you many times to cease and
>desist your cyberstalking, fraud, forgeries, death threats,

It would never occur to you to back that up, would it?

Your mere word is enough.

EXCEPT IT ISN'T, DOUG.

A post with headers will do as a minimum. Hell - even a direct quote
with no headers of some "threat" from me would be a start!!

After all, if I can provide a full quote with full headers of your
purple heart lie along with a screenshot from Google, and you can
dismiss that as being somehow a "forgery" with just a wave of your
hand, then if your accusations against me is not to be similarly
dismissed out of hand you need to provide something of similar
substance.

Quid pro quo.

>threats of violence,

Yes you really do seem to believe your utterances have some mystical
power.

As in this case, people can provide empirical evidence by the
truckload of you making untruthful claims on Usenet, can prove it flat
again and again, dozens of examples from dozens of different people.

Yet you seem to believe a mere contrary assertion from you trumps all
that hard evidence ("I didn't write that post", or "The typist got it
wrong", or "somebody forged it", or... "everyone's out to get me"
or...."My dog ate my homework")

Thereafter, everyone is "deliberate lying" and "libeling" you because
they now "know" the "truth" but persist in their nefarious plans
against you despite the unassailable proof that is your
word..,........

On the other hand when it comes to your accusations, you feel you
can issue complete fantasy diarrhea like "death threats" and the
thought of actually providing a scintilla of evidence never even
crosses your pea brain.

The accusation stands proven because you made it. Who needs evidence?
Everybody knows you're right. You must be. You're DGVREIMAN!!!!

Except, the reality is you're just a pathological liar whose catch
phrase is "I never lie".


> criminal libel and other crimes and
>overt acts we believe you are perpetrating

"believe"? Ah, the carefully chosen weasel word from the archest
weasel on Usenet.

> or inciting
>against me on a regular and contrived basis. Still you
>persist with your anonymous fraud and cyberstalking. You
>must be aware of the repercussions of your actions yet you
>arrogantly continue with your cyberstalking and criminal
>acts even in the State you reside.


The "cyberstalking" and "fraud" exists only in your warped
imagination.

The only one really guilty of it is you. (Threatening emails,
Complaints to ISPs, contacting former employers, hundreds of threats
of lawsuits)

>
>Your fraud is glaring. Your forgery is obvious.

You pathological dishonesty is glaring. Your mental illness is
obvious.

> Google has
>not replaced the post.

Not deliberately, no. Accidents happen. Nevertheless the "don't show"
flag on the message was cleared for a couple of days. Long enough for
a number of people to get screenshots and text copies with full
headers.

You're busted.

> Your version of it is not complete

Doug you once again need to face a simple fact:

YOUR WORD IS NOT ENOUGH. Not by a long shot.

You can solve this so-called dispute very easily Doug. Have Google
re-instate the original post that you requested they remove.

Let's see if it differs by so much as one character from what I
posted and quote again below.

Come through for once Doogie.

Or will this be just like the "statement" you claimed to have from the
person who "really" posted the message - a message he posted from YOUR
PC, using YOUR name, carrying on YOUR argument with Chip in context,
directly responding to points Chip had made to YOU - a "rogue" post
that YOU never noticed or commented on when you made further posts to
the thread, even though it had made grossly false claims on your
behalf that you - DGVREIMAN "Doug says:" - had a Purple Heart.

Yep. Another set of golden opportunities to publicly rub our faces in
**** goes abegging while you bluster loudly and impotently instead.

>and therefore you have forged yet another post.

"therefore"? That's not a "Therefore".

Here's a "Therefore":
A post from your PC, bearing your name and sig, directly addressing
points directly made to you by your arch-enemy of the time, clearly
identifying the author as you ("Doug says") was "therefore" written by
you.

See? Easy. And much more convincing!


> There is no
>screen shot of the post and it cannot be found in any Google
>archive.

You even lie about that. I posted a screenshot from Google showing
that the post was back again, and you know it.

>
>However, I need to clear up one issue before I take further
>action in respect to this issue:
>
>Are you stating as a statement of fact on this forum and on
>others that I, Douglas G.V. Reiman, did personally write and
>post a post that claimed I had won the Order of the Purple
>Heart, (a Purple Heart Medal)?

It was posted from your PC, under your account name, directly in
answer to questions made personally of you, the author said he was
you.

So yes. That pretty much covers all the bases. Lying ****.

BTW, I agree with you about something: bragging about a Purple Heart
not received in combat is about as cowardly as it gets.


Read it (again) and weep

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"Chip C" <c...@chipcom.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.18b9c7081c961f5098a239@news-server.neo.rr.com...
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:56:03 GMT, DGVREIMAN allegedly wrote...
>
> > Doug Says: We declared war on terrorism. Saddam is
supporting,
> > financing, arming, training, aiding and harboring terrorists.
> > Duh. I suspect that you do not have clue about what you are
> > talking about, and I further suspect you have never seen a
shot
> > fired in anger in your life.
>
> I have a Purple Heart and a CAR that proves you wrong, Dougie.
> There are other countries, some that are our allies, who are
much
> more active in supporting and arming terrorists...yet you want
to go
> after Iraq because you don't have the will to go after them.
That, to
> me is cowardice.

Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received mine in a
real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have
never fought in a war. About the only place you could have
received a purple heart was in Lebanon, and that was not a
shooting war, just a bombing due to the ineptitude of a gang of
Marine officers. In respect to deposing Saddam, I am the one
advocating removing Saddam, you are the one advocating cowering,
hiding, and doing nothing. It is pretty clear who the coward is
around here. BTW, bragging about a Purple Heart not received in
combat is about as cowardly as it gets.
>
> > If you think this war is about defending ourselves , you
> > > are indeed delusional. If we wanted to defend ourselves by
> > invading
> > > someone, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Pakistan and France (hee
> > hee, why
> > > not?) would be at the top of the list...Iraq ain't ****.
You
> > are
> > > acting like a panic-stricken wimp...if you are a vet, stand
up
> > and
> > > show some balls.
> >
> > Doug Says: Let me see, you want to cower, run, hide, whine,
cry,
> > appease, and leave Saddam alone, and you call me a
> > "panic-stricken wimp?" Hmmmmm. Saddam is dangerous, and he
> > needs to be removed from power. Once Saddam is gone we will
have
> > the means and the bases to deal with Iran, which is clearly
our
> > next target. And yes I am a vet, and clearly you are not.
> >
>
> Just because you think not going to war tomorrow mean giving
Saddam a
> free ride doesn't make it any more factual. Open your eyes and
look
> at the entire battlefield instead of just through your narrow
gun-
> site. Saddam ain't ****, and puffing him up into some major
threat
> while ignoring the more imminent threats is the sign of a
cowering
> coward. I hate to call a vet a coward...but if you wish to be
> considered such, it is of your own choosing.

Doug Says: What you call me is irrelevant as you certainly do
not have the knowledge nor the information to pass judgment, not
to mention make condescending remarks. Saddam is supporting
terrorism, financing it, and arming terrorists. These terrorists
that Saddam is financing and supporting have already murdered
Americans. Now if you think we should attack someone else, then
say so. But right now Saddam is providing a major resource for
Al-Qeada, Haamas and the Islamic Jihad. All three of those
terrorist organizations have murdered Americans. Further, I am
the one advocating the removal of Saddam, you are the one that is
advocating appeasement, so which of us is the coward again?

If you knew anything about this issue you would realize our war
on terrorism and our desire to depose Saddam are interlinked. We
cannot continue to defeat terrorism unless we eliminate the
resources that terrorism is feeding upon, and one of the main
sources is Saddam. Further, you clearly are not aware that
Saddam declared war on the USA, Britain and Israel on December
27,2000 just ten months prior to the 911 massacres. Now even you
should agree that we remove a tyrant that has openly and public
declared war on the USA.

Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> --
> Chip C
> Personal site: http://www.chipcom.net/
> Christmas Stories: http://www.christmas-stories.com/
>
> "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
> -- Emiliano Zapata

 

[DGVREIMAN]

"Pepperoni" <undeliverableaddy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gtWdnegHvITxn6janZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
> news:nOCdneZHlf-6ZananZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Mr. Cyberstalker SteveL:
>>
>> Rebuttal:
>>
>> My lawyer and I have informed you many times to cease and
>> desist your cyberstalking, fraud, forgeries, death threats,
>> threats of violence, criminal libel and other crimes and overt
>> acts we believe you are perpetrating or inciting against me
>> on a regular and contrived basis. Still you persist with your
>> anonymous fraud and cyberstalking. You must be aware of the
>> repercussions of your actions yet you arrogantly continue with
>> your cyberstalking and criminal acts even in the State you
>> reside.
>>
>> Your fraud is glaring. Your forgery is obvious. Google has
>> not replaced the post. Your version of it is not complete and
>> therefore you have forged yet another post. There is no
>> screen shot of the post and it cannot be found in any Google
>> archive.
>>
>> However, I need to clear up one issue before I take further
>> action in respect to this issue:
>>
>> Are you stating as a statement of fact on this forum and on
>> others that I, Douglas G.V. Reiman, did personally write and
>> post a post that claimed I had won the Order of the Purple
>> Heart, (a Purple Heart Medal)?
>>
>> If that is your claim, then please make your criminal libel as
>> clear as possible so there can be no question as to precisely
>> what you are now fraudulently stating about me.
>>
>> Doug Grant (Tm)
>>
>
>
> Path:
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[Pepperoni]

"DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
news:nOCdneZHlf-6ZananZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Are you stating as a statement of fact on this forum and on others that I,
> Douglas G.V. Reiman, did personally write and post a post that claimed I
> had won the Order of the Purple Heart, (a Purple Heart Medal)?
>
> If that is your claim, then please make your criminal libel as clear as
> possible so there can be no question as to precisely what you are now
> fraudulently stating about me.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)


It does appear to have been posted by you, Doug.
http://tinyurl.com/27844x

 

[Pepperoni]

"DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Now if you, Mr. Huxton are claiming that I ever claimed I had won the
> Order of the Purple Heart Medal, please be specific in your statement of
> fact so there is no doubt as to your libel. If you are claiming that
> someone by the name of Chip posted the above passage you are absolutely
> correct as the headings above confirm.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)

http://tinyurl.com/27844x

You posted it, you live with it.

http://home.comcast.net/~thuxton/garryowen.htm

 

[DGVREIMAN]

"Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
newsai-Uy-C739A6.10335310112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
> In article <gbSdneBmSs9YyajanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Doug Says: The above post was not composed nor written nor
>> posted by me, and regardless, it is not referencing medals.
>
> The headers clearly indicate that Message-ID:
> <WaU3a.38894$rq4.3061...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
> was written by "DGVREIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>. Accept
> the facts.
>
>> The
>> cut and paste by ChIp is incomplete, does not contain the last
>> paragraph that explains what the typist was referencing.
>
> No doubt you will be posting a revised version with the
> missing last paragraph that will explain what the typist was
> referencing.

Doug's Rebuttal: In fact, if a criminal charges are filed over
this issue (which will happen if anyone states that I claimed a
purple heart medal as a statement of fact and not as some smear
merchant's fraudulent opinion which is clearly designed to
defame) or a lawyer gets involved, the prosecutor or the lawyer
(if no statement of fact from an identifiable person I can file
a Federal court action at my expense asking for a restraining
order and damages in respect to this issue as soon as next week)
the lawyer can then Subpoena Google for a copy and the reason it
was removed. If the reason provided google for removal does not
state this post was removed due to the context being Purple Heart
Cards, or if the post itself does not state that fact as my
typist's notes indicate, then I will pay for all legal fees and
withdraw all charges. However, if it does contain the Purple
Heart Card reference, then YOU plead guilty to criminal libel
(that is if you are stating as a fact I ever claimed I had won a
purple heart medal) and you pay for the legal fees. If you are
not stating as a statement of fact that I ever claimed a Purple
Heart Medal then I suggest you stop attempting to associate me
with people that have been arrested for claiming fake medals or
for defrauding the US Government in some manner or another,
because such fraudulent associations clearly are designed to
criminally libel me by claiming I too am guilty of the same
crimes you are reporting. And even if you do not mention me by
name, your gang leader follows up on your post and does, which is
clearly represents criminal conspiracy to criminally libel me
over this issue.

I have not filed a single criminal complaint against anyone that
I believed to be a Veteran (SteveL is the one exception).
However, one more fraudulent association in that regard should be
enough for me to demand criminal libel charges be filed against
you in your home town, and then the Prosecutor can be the one
that contacts Google, and I will get a trip to Hawaii to testify.
If you continue to accuse me of a crime by implication or
statement, I will take legal action against you.
>
> Chip quoted your entire message - refutting it point by
> point, paragraph by paragraph -- including the last paragraph.
> He deleted only your signature.

Doug Says: Bullshit. See above to prove this issue once and for
all. He cut and pasted only the part he wanted to respond to and
the bottom of the post was not repeated by Chip, and your own
admission that he did not cut and paste any signature proves that
fact. Had he provided the entire post then a signature would
have appeared at the immediate bottom of the fragement he
excerpted. But it is interesting that you now admit that no
signature appears on the post, yet in ALL other cases it
does....You have just proved my point Mr. Rau that the cut and
paste by Chip was NOT complete and did not include the entire
contents of Post 17.
>
> See original messages -- yours and Chip C's -- below:
>
> Here is your original post (Number 17 in the thread)

Mr. Rau, you and I both know you are simply repeating what Chip
cut and pasted over a different post header. If post 17 was
complete it would have included a signature and the statement at
the bottom of the post that referenced the fact we were
discussing cards and not medals. The signature is missing. The
statement in parentheses is missing. You and the Cyberstalking
nutcase SteveL are simply forging headers over a cut and past by
Chip. Your forgery is obvious.

We all can see what you two are doing in your desperation. There
is no signature on the post and no statement in
parentheses....the post is clearly incomplete. If you disagree
find another complete post from the account I was using that did
not contain a signature.n No? Of course not becuase none exist.
However, you claim that I wrote this post although you also
acknowledge that this is the only post from the account I was
using that DID NOT contain a signature. So who signed the post?
If it was unsigned then the post cannot be attributed to anyone.
Yet if it was signed, then what you, Brooks and SteveL are
purporting to be the complete post Number 17 is an outright
forgery.

Moreover, my server allows me and encougages me to post
information to up to five or six different Newsgroups if those
newsgroups contain individuals that are interested in the post.

I have received emails from people that have been watching your
fraud and smear gang unravel, and they are rejoicing in the fact
that finally someone is standing up to your forgeries, fraud, and
outright oboloquy you and your gang members use to target your
smear victims.

Each newsgroup I list has responded at one time or another to
this issue, in many different ways. So please stop trying to
hide the truth about your forgeries, fraud and unethical
behavior....I noticed you did not try to omit newsgroups when you
and Brooks and other gang members were posting your fraud and
forgeries about me.

I have received a recent confirmation from Chip over this issue
and he confirmed precisely what he told me before, that (1) he
does not have a Purple Heart Medal, and (2) that was not the
context of his post, he was talking about Purple Heart Cards and
NOT Medals, which was a previous topic prior to this post.

I should also point out that in Feburary 2004, LONG BEFORE you
and Brooks started your smear campaign against me, I clearly
stated that I did not have a Purple Heart Medal. And then after
that date I reinterated that fact at least six more times. It is
obviously ridicilous to claim that I was claiming I had a Purple
Heart Medal in 2003, and so was Chip, yet neither of us have that
Medal, then in 2004 I and Chip both stated the exact opposite!

Further, if you claim we were talking about Medals and not Cards,
then you are calling ALL THREE individuals involved in this
exchange a liar, Chip, me and my typist. Yet we were the ONLY
people that could have possibily known our context and what we
were talking about, not unless of course, you are going to dreg
up your accalimed "mind reading skills" again - and if you do
that I will provide some more mind reading tests for you, and as
we both know, you and Brooks have failed all of those mind
reading tests miserably in the past.

Your fraud and forgeries have been exposed yet again Mr. Rau, and
if you would like to see a copy of that post, and/or the reason
it was removed, and if it does not state to Google an issue about
Purple Heart Cards, then I will pay all fees....but if Google
confirms what I am saying is true, you pay the fees. It won't
cost much for a lawyer to process a Subpoena to Google, so how
about it Rau, Brooks, SteveL, MAC, and other gang members, are
you going to "Walk the Walk" or is it just "Big Hat No Cattle"
once again from the Brooks smear gang and his Brownies?

There is more on this to come about your and SteveL's
preposterous claim that Google replaced a post they removed, and
how you forged headers and got caught.

Just when I think you and Brooks could not sink to any further
unethical depth, you surprise me with your dishonor and
deceit....


Doug Grant (Tm)

 

[Political Pagan]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:57:01 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
<dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:

>Just when I think you and Brooks could not sink to any further
>unethical depth, you surprise me with your dishonor and
>deceit....


Where's my criminal complaint Doogie? If you would have filed them, I
would have seen it by now.

You are nothing but hot air.


and YES you did state you won a purple heart.
I'm going to laugh if you ever take this to trial, and the post you
claimed that in is introduced. Can we say perjury Doogie?

--
"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so"
Bertrand Russell

 

[SteveL]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:57:01 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
<dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:


<snip Dougie's Brain Stew, except for:>

>Further, if you claim we were talking about Medals and not Cards,
>then you are calling ALL THREE individuals involved in this
>exchange a liar, Chip, me and my typist.

Just the other day you said.

"I know who the poster was and it was not me. I have communicated
with the author about this post, I have received a statement in
regards to this post certifying I was not the author"

Message-ID: <BoednaLl4u1NH6zanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Message ID's (was Re: EMOTIONAL DISTRESS AWARD"
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:18:04 -0800

Indeed, you're on record many times similarly DISAVOWING authorship of
that post. In fact it's your stated reason for having the post
removed from Google.

And now you're not only suddenly admitting authorship but admonishing
others for trying to "mind read" what YOU "really meant" by YOUR
words.

Oh dear. Caught in another lie, and a pathetic one at that.


SCREENSHOT OF FULL POST
http://tinyurl.com/27844x


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"Chip C" <c...@chipcom.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.18b9c7081c961f5098a239@news-server.neo.rr.com...
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:56:03 GMT, DGVREIMAN allegedly wrote...
>
> > Doug Says: We declared war on terrorism. Saddam is
supporting,
> > financing, arming, training, aiding and harboring terrorists.
> > Duh. I suspect that you do not have clue about what you are
> > talking about, and I further suspect you have never seen a
shot
> > fired in anger in your life.
>
> I have a Purple Heart and a CAR that proves you wrong, Dougie.
> There are other countries, some that are our allies, who are
much
> more active in supporting and arming terrorists...yet you want
to go
> after Iraq because you don't have the will to go after them.
That, to
> me is cowardice.

Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received mine in a
real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have
never fought in a war. About the only place you could have
received a purple heart was in Lebanon, and that was not a
shooting war, just a bombing due to the ineptitude of a gang of
Marine officers. In respect to deposing Saddam, I am the one
advocating removing Saddam, you are the one advocating cowering,
hiding, and doing nothing. It is pretty clear who the coward is
around here. BTW, bragging about a Purple Heart not received in
combat is about as cowardly as it gets.
>
> > If you think this war is about defending ourselves , you
> > > are indeed delusional. If we wanted to defend ourselves by
> > invading
> > > someone, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Pakistan and France (hee
> > hee, why
> > > not?) would be at the top of the list...Iraq ain't ****.
You
> > are
> > > acting like a panic-stricken wimp...if you are a vet, stand
up
> > and
> > > show some balls.
> >
> > Doug Says: Let me see, you want to cower, run, hide, whine,
cry,
> > appease, and leave Saddam alone, and you call me a
> > "panic-stricken wimp?" Hmmmmm. Saddam is dangerous, and he
> > needs to be removed from power. Once Saddam is gone we will
have
> > the means and the bases to deal with Iran, which is clearly
our
> > next target. And yes I am a vet, and clearly you are not.
> >
>
> Just because you think not going to war tomorrow mean giving
Saddam a
> free ride doesn't make it any more factual. Open your eyes and
look
> at the entire battlefield instead of just through your narrow
gun-
> site. Saddam ain't ****, and puffing him up into some major
threat
> while ignoring the more imminent threats is the sign of a
cowering
> coward. I hate to call a vet a coward...but if you wish to be
> considered such, it is of your own choosing.

Doug Says: What you call me is irrelevant as you certainly do
not have the knowledge nor the information to pass judgment, not
to mention make condescending remarks. Saddam is supporting
terrorism, financing it, and arming terrorists. These terrorists
that Saddam is financing and supporting have already murdered
Americans. Now if you think we should attack someone else, then
say so. But right now Saddam is providing a major resource for
Al-Qeada, Haamas and the Islamic Jihad. All three of those
terrorist organizations have murdered Americans. Further, I am
the one advocating the removal of Saddam, you are the one that is
advocating appeasement, so which of us is the coward again?

If you knew anything about this issue you would realize our war
on terrorism and our desire to depose Saddam are interlinked. We
cannot continue to defeat terrorism unless we eliminate the
resources that terrorism is feeding upon, and one of the main
sources is Saddam. Further, you clearly are not aware that
Saddam declared war on the USA, Britain and Israel on December
27,2000 just ten months prior to the 911 massacres. Now even you
should agree that we remove a tyrant that has openly and public
declared war on the USA.

Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> --
> Chip C
> Personal site: http://www.chipcom.net/
> Christmas Stories: http://www.christmas-stories.com/
>
> "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
> -- Emiliano Zapata

 

[Mac]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:57:01 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
<dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:

>Doug's Rebuttal: In fact, if a criminal charges are filed over
>this issue (which will happen if anyone states that I claimed a
>purple heart medal as a statement of fact...
SNIP

You, according to the HEADERS and the MESSAGE ID, claimed to have been
"wounded" while in Vietnam: you also claimed to have a Purple Heart.
---Mac, the Medic

 

[DGVREIMAN]

Bottom Line:

Chip says he was not referencing a Purple Heart Medal, my typist
says she was not referencing a purple heart medal, I say when I
was consulted on this post I did not respond referencing a Purple
Heart Medal, and so what Dai Uy say?

I, duh, read, duh, minds, and I say, duh, all do youse guys are
lying, but duh, I does, not know, duh, nor can I, duh, well, duh.

Fact: Chip said he was talking about Purple Heart Cards not
medals, I say that was the topic of conversation, my typist's
notes say the same, the Google archive in respect to the reason
for removal of the post confirms this fact....conclusion:

Dai Uy, and Nigel Brooks and gang have been caught in mid con and
mid smear once again.

Fact: Nigel Brooks and Tom Rau FORGED the term "Medal" into Chip
and my typists' post and reply......another Brooks/Rau forgery,
and this time, criminal libel. Like I said, dishonor, fraud,
unethical practices are the clear and obvious tactics of Tom Rau
and Nigel Brooks in respect to this issue and many more.

So is Rau going to confess to criminal libel, or is he going to
take my challenge of an independent legal review of this issue
and others?

Watch him duck, run, squirm and cower to this challenge.




Doug Grant (Tm)



"Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
newsai-Uy-48AE59.04452511112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
> In article <xbednRuFgslqyKvanZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>> newsai-Uy-C739A6.10335310112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
>> > In article <gbSdneBmSs9YyajanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> > "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Doug Says: The above post was not composed nor written nor
>> >> posted by me, and regardless, it is not referencing medals.
>
> Your statement; "Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also,
> and I received mine in a real war" is referencing the Purple
> Heart medal.
>
> This will be quite long, lest you accuse me of hiding your
> eloquent and revealing words.
>
> I'll try to write this response so that a third grader can
> understand.
>
>> >
>> > The headers clearly indicate that Message-ID:
>> > <WaU3a.38894$rq4.3061...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>> > was written by "DGVREIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>.
>> > Accept
>> > the facts.
>> >
>> >> The
>> >> cut and paste by ChIp is incomplete, does not contain the
>> >> last
>> >> paragraph that explains what the typist was referencing.
>> >
>> > No doubt you will be posting a revised version with the
>> > missing last paragraph that will explain what the typist was
>> > referencing.
>>
>> Doug's Rebuttal: In fact, if a criminal charges are filed
>> over
>> this issue (which will happen if anyone states that I claimed
>> a
>> purple heart medal as a statement of fact and not as some
>> smear
>> merchant's fraudulent opinion which is clearly designed to
>> defame) or a lawyer gets involved, the prosecutor or the
>> lawyer
>> (if no statement of fact from an identifiable person I can
>> file
>> a Federal court action at my expense asking for a restraining
>> order and damages in respect to this issue as soon as next
>> week)
>> the lawyer can then Subpoena Google for a copy and the reason
>> it
>> was removed. If the reason provided google for removal does
>> not
>> state this post was removed due to the context being Purple
>> Heart
>> Cards, or if the post itself does not state that fact as my
>> typist's notes indicate, then I will pay for all legal fees
>> and
>> withdraw all charges. However, if it does contain the
>> Purple
>> Heart Card reference, then YOU plead guilty to criminal libel
>> (that is if you are stating as a fact I ever claimed I had won
>> a
>> purple heart medal) and you pay for the legal fees. If you
>> are
>> not stating as a statement of fact that I ever claimed a
>> Purple
>> Heart Medal then I suggest you stop attempting to associate me
>> with people that have been arrested for claiming fake medals
>> or
>> for defrauding the US Government in some manner or another,
>> because such fraudulent associations clearly are designed to
>> criminally libel me by claiming I too am guilty of the same
>> crimes you are reporting. And even if you do not mention me
>> by
>> name, your gang leader follows up on your post and does, which
>> is
>> clearly represents criminal conspiracy to criminally libel me
>> over this issue.
>>
>> I have not filed a single criminal complaint against anyone
>> that
>> I believed to be a Veteran (SteveL is the one exception).
>> However, one more fraudulent association in that regard should
>> be
>> enough for me to demand criminal libel charges be filed
>> against
>> you in your home town, and then the Prosecutor can be the one
>> that contacts Google, and I will get a trip to Hawaii to
>> testify.
>> If you continue to accuse me of a crime by implication or
>> statement, I will take legal action against you.
>
> That sounds like yet another of your threats of legal
> action. I heard that posting threats of a financial nature on
> usenet is against federal law. But, it's probably not true.
> The person who posted that factoid is a notorious liar.
>
>> >
>> > Chip quoted your entire message - refutting it point by
>> > point, paragraph by paragraph -- including the last
>> > paragraph.
>> > He deleted only your signature.
>
> That's a fact. The posts that I provided in their
> entirety confirm that.
>
>>
>> Doug Says: Bullshit. See above to prove this issue once and
>> for
>> all.
>
> The posts, number 17 and 18, and their headers, already
> prove who wrote what.
>
>> He cut and pasted only the part he wanted to respond to and
>> the bottom of the post was not repeated by Chip, and your own
>> admission that he did not cut and paste any signature proves
>> that
>> fact. Had he provided the entire post then a signature
>> would
>> have appeared at the immediate bottom of the fragement he
>> excerpted.
>
> Isn't that what I said, he deleted ONLY the signature?

No Signature, no complete post, including what was written ABOVE
THE SIGNATURE!


>
>> But it is interesting that you now admit that no
>> signature appears on the post, yet in ALL other cases it
>> does....You have just proved my point Mr. Rau that the cut and
>> paste by Chip was NOT complete and did not include the entire
>> contents of Post 17.
>
> Okay, here's the entire contents of post number 17 -- the
> one that you swore to be the author of when you had it removed.

Doug Says: More Dai Uy fraud. I do not need to be the author of
the post to have it removed. Anyone can check with Google and
prove that Dai Uy (Tom Rau) is lying through his teeth. And the
post below clearly is not Post 17, no Signature and what appears
above the Signature. More obvious and incredible fraud and
forgeries from Thomas Rau:
>
> >
>> >
>> > See original messages -- yours and Chip C's -- below:
>> >
>> > Here is your original post (Number 17 in the thread)
>>
>> Mr. Rau, you and I both know you are simply repeating what
>> Chip
>> cut and pasted over a different post header.
>
> You know that it is an archived copy of the post that you
> swore you were the author of.

Doug Says: Your lying and desperation is obvious and
pathological. I swore I was the author? Bwhahahahah you are
nuts....please provide an URL to the archived copy you are
referncing, your dreams, your Walter Mitty fantasy, crazy, nuts,
goofy.....need some help Rau.
>
>> If post 17 was
>> complete it would have included a signature and the statement
>> at
>> the bottom of the post that referenced the fact we were
>> discussing cards and not medals. The signature is missing.
>
> Your signature is not missing on post 17 that you swore
> you were the author of. There was no statement in regarding
> cards. Furthermore, there is not, and never has been a card
> called the "Purple Heart Card." That is as stupid as saying a
> SFC was a butter-bar.

Doug Says: There is no post that references Medals, that forgery
was added by your gang leader Nigel Brooks. If Chip says we were
talking about Cards, and my typist says we were talking about
Cards, and I say we were talking about Cards, and the recent
confirmation to Chip confirms we were talking about Cards, and we
were the only three people involved in the discussion, then where
in the hell do you get off telling us what we were talking about?
Mind reading? Reading the entails of little animals?
Duhhhhhhhhh! The people involved in discussion are the ONLY
people that know the context of what they were talking about, and
you and your gang have been caught once again, like Brier Rabbit,
it the Tar Baby.....and there is much more to come, much more.

Bwhahahahahahahhahahah.

Fraud merchants always eventually show their true colors
>
>> The
>> statement in parentheses is missing. You and the
>> Cyberstalking
>> nutcase SteveL are simply forging headers over a cut and past
>> by
>> Chip. Your forgery is obvious.
>
> That is a libelous falsehood, intended to harm our
> reputations. Perhaps you should consult with your lawyer
> before making those kinds of statements.

Doug Says: If you want, my lawyer can send you and your local
prosecutor a letter confirming that fact? Do you agree?

>>
>> We all can see what you two are doing in your desperation.
>
> What do you mean "we"?

Doug Says:

You and your smear gang.
>
>> There
>> is no signature on the post and no statement in
>> parentheses....the post is clearly incomplete.
>
> There is a signature on the post you wrote (number 17) and
> have attempted to hide. There is not a statement in
> parentheses.

Doug Says: Then please provide a copy of the post that contains
the signature and the statement above the signature. No? Like I
said, a forgery.
>
>> If you disagree
>> find another complete post from the account I was using that
>> did
>> not contain a signature.n No?
>
> Why?
>
> I've told you five or six times that YOU signed your post
> (number 17). Chip C did not copy your signature when he
> replied in post number 18. He copied everything else.

Doug Says: Please provide your evidence that I signed post 17???
It does not appear in your forgery? Afraid to repost a forged
signature? Your lies and obvious forgeries are glaring Mr.
Rau....and there is much more to come over this issue.
>
>> Of course not becuase none exist.
>
> A freudian slip? Of course there was no statement in
> parenthese
>
>> However, you claim that I wrote this post although you also
>> acknowledge that this is the only post from the account I was
>> using that DID NOT contain a signature.
>
> Damn you're dense. In all seriousness Doug, you need to
> get a grip.
>
>> So who signed the post?
>
> Follow along here Doug,
>
> You signed post number 17.

Please provide Post number 17 with my signature. A failure to do
so will be a de facto admission you are lying and using fraud to
falsely accuse me of a crime.

We are waiting. Are you ready to confess to criminal libel or
should my lawyer contact you directly?

Doug Grant (Tm)
>

 

[Pepperoni]

"DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:rZWdnQ7Y98B_daranZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Fact: Chip said he was talking about Purple Heart Cards not medals, I say
> that was the topic of conversation, my typist's notes say the same, the
> Google archive in respect to the reason for removal of the post confirms
> this fact....conclusion:




The "CAR" that Chip was awarded refers to the "Combat Action Ribbon".
http://tinyurl.com/3xa4og

Establishing Authority

The Combat Action Ribbon was established on February 17, 1969, by Secretary
of the Navy John H. Chafee and announced by SECNAVNOTE 1650 of February 17,
1969. The Annual Defense Authorization Bill (Public Law 106-65) signed into
law by President Clinton on October 5, 1999, authorized the Secretary of the
Navy to award the Combat Action Ribbon to members of the Navy or Marine
Coprs who participated in combat during any period after December 6, 1941.

Effective Dates

The Combat Action Ribbon originally took effect on March 1, 1961; however,
with the passage of Public Law 106-65 (cited above), award of the Combat
Action Ribbon may now be made retroactive to December 7, 1941.


Establishing Authority

The Combat Action Ribbon was established on February 17, 1969, by
Secretary of the Navy John H. Chafee and announced by SECNAVNOTE 1650 of
February 17, 1969. The Annual Defense Authorization Bill (Public Law 106-65)
signed into law by President Clinton on October 5, 1999, authorized the
Secretary of the Navy to award the Combat Action Ribbon to members of the
Navy or Marine Coprs who participated in combat during any period after
December 6, 1941.

Effective Dates

The Combat Action Ribbon originally took effect on March 1, 1961;
however, with the passage of Public Law 106-65 (cited above), award of the
Combat Action Ribbon may now be made retroactive to December 7, 1941.

Criteria

The Combat Action Ribbon is a personal decoration awarded to members
of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard (when operating under the control
of the Navy) in the grade of captain (or colonel in the Marine Corps) and
below who have actively participated in ground or surface combat.

Personnel who earned the Combat Infantryman Badge or Combat Medical
Badge while a member of the Army may be authorized to wear the Combat Action
Ribbon. The principal criterion is that the recipient must have participated
in a bona fide ground or surface combat firefight or in an action during
which he was under enemy fire and his performance while under fire was
satisfactory.

Order of Precedence

The Combat Action Ribbon is worn after the Navy Achievement Medal and
before the Navy Presidential Unit Citation.

Devices

Because this ribbon is considered to be a personal decoration,
additional awards are indicated by gold stars five-sixteenths of an inch in
diameter (an additional star in silver of the same size denotes a sixth
award).

 

[DGVREIMAN]

"Nigel Brooks" <nbrooks@msn.com> wrote in message
news:5pot1pFs0g7cU1@mid.individual.net...
> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:xbednRuFgslqyKvanZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>> newsai-Uy-C739A6.10335310112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
>>> In article <gbSdneBmSs9YyajanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Says: The above post was not composed nor written nor
>>>> posted by me, and regardless, it is not referencing medals.
>>>
>>> The headers clearly indicate that Message-ID:
>>> <WaU3a.38894$rq4.3061...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>>> was written by "DGVREIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>.
>>> Accept
>>> the facts.
>>>
>>>> The
>>>> cut and paste by ChIp is incomplete, does not contain the
>>>> last
>>>> paragraph that explains what the typist was referencing.
>>>
>>> No doubt you will be posting a revised version with the
>>> missing last paragraph that will explain what the typist was
>>> referencing.
>>
>> Doug's Rebuttal: In fact, if a criminal charges are filed
>> over this issue (which will happen if anyone states that I
>> claimed a purple heart medal as a statement of fact and not as
>> some smear merchant's fraudulent opinion which is clearly
>> designed to defame) or a lawyer gets involved, the prosecutor
>> or the lawyer (if no statement of fact from an identifiable
>> person I can file a Federal court action at my expense
>> asking for a restraining order and damages in respect to this
>> issue as soon as next week) the lawyer can then Subpoena
>> Google for a copy and the reason it was removed. If the
>> reason provided google for removal does not state this post
>> was removed due to the context being Purple Heart Cards, or if
>> the post itself does not state that fact as my typist's notes
>> indicate, then I will pay for all legal fees and withdraw all
>> charges. However, if it does contain the Purple Heart Card
>> reference, then YOU plead guilty to criminal libel (that is if
>> you are stating as a fact I ever claimed I had won a purple
>> heart medal) and you pay for the legal fees. If you are not
>> stating as a statement of fact that I ever claimed a Purple
>> Heart Medal then I suggest you stop attempting to associate me
>> with people that have been arrested for claiming fake medals
>> or for defrauding the US Government in some manner or another,
>> because such fraudulent associations clearly are designed to
>> criminally libel me by claiming I too am guilty of the same
>> crimes you are reporting. And even if you do not mention me
>> by name, your gang leader follows up on your post and does,
>> which is clearly represents criminal conspiracy to criminally
>> libel me over this issue.
>
> Had the Stolen Valor Act amendment to Title 18 of the United
> States Code been in effect prior to your February 16, 2003
> post (number 17) to the thread entitled Al Qaeda Says Saddam an
> Infidel, I have every confidence that the claim to have been a
> Purple Heart recipient would have been prosecutable under that
> statute - but fortunately for you, the Statute was not signed
> into law until 2006 - so you get a free pass (ex post facto
> laws being unconstitutional)

Doug Says; Since I never claimed I received a Purple Heart
Medal, that law has zero applicability to me. However, since you
claimed that you received a Victoria Cross in Vietnam, and since
you claimed you receive Vietnam Campaign Medals that were awarded
long after you left the service, no doubt the criminal statutes
would apply to you if those claims were stated after 2006. Do
you wish to reiterate those claims you made in this respect, or
do you now want to admit you were lying and never earned the
medals you claimed you had been awarded?
>
>> I have not filed a single criminal complaint against anyone
>> that I believed to be a Veteran (SteveL is the one exception).
>> However, one more fraudulent association in that regard should
>> be enough for me to demand criminal libel charges be filed
>> against you in your home town, and then the Prosecutor can be
>> the one that contacts Google, and I will get a trip to Hawaii
>> to testify. If you continue to accuse me of a crime by
>> implication or statement, I will take legal action against
>> you.
>
> I have every confidence that when a competent prosecutorial
> authority reviews any claims you might wish to make concerning
> these matters, and they take into account the overwhelming
> evidence of your duplicity - and tell you politely to **** off.

Doug Says: Considering I have never posted any duplicity outside
of your forgeries and fraud claiming otherwise, I will be more
than happy to allow a prosecutor to review this
issue....apparently you are speaking for Mr. Rau and the rest of
your gang.
>
>
>>> Chip quoted your entire message - refutting it point by
>>> point, paragraph by paragraph -- including the last
>>> paragraph.
>>> He deleted only your signature.
>>
>> Doug Says: Bullshit. See above to prove this issue once and
>> for all. He cut and pasted only the part he wanted to respond
>> to and the bottom of the post was not repeated by Chip, and
>> your own admission that he did not cut and paste any signature
>> proves that fact. Had he provided the entire post then a
>> signature would have appeared at the immediate bottom of the
>> fragment he excerpted. But it is interesting that you now
>> admit that no signature appears on the post, yet in ALL other
>> cases it does....You have just proved my point Mr. Rau that
>> the cut and paste by Chip was NOT complete and did not
>> include the entire contents of Post 17.
>>>
>>> See original messages -- yours and Chip C's -- below:
>>>
>>> Here is your original post (Number 17 in the thread)
>>
>> Mr. Rau, you and I both know you are simply repeating what
>> Chip cut and pasted over a different post header. If post 17
>> was complete it would have included a signature and the
>> statement at the bottom of the post that referenced the fact
>> we were discussing cards and not medals. The signature is
>> missing. The statement in parentheses is missing. You and
>> the Cyberstalking nutcase SteveL are simply forging headers
>> over a cut and past by Chip. Your forgery is obvious.
>>
>> We all can see what you two are doing in your desperation.
>> There is no signature on the post and no statement in
>> parentheses....the post is clearly incomplete. If you
>> disagree find another complete post from the account I was
>> using that did not contain a signature.n No? Of course not
>> because none exist. However, you claim that I wrote this post
>> although you also acknowledge that this is the only post from
>> the account I was using that DID NOT contain a signature. So
>> who signed the post? If it was unsigned then the post cannot
>> be attributed to anyone. Yet if it was signed, then what you,
>> Brooks and SteveL are purporting to be the complete post
>> Number 17 is an outright forgery.
>>
>> Moreover, my server allows me and encourages me to post
>> information to up to five or six different Newsgroups if those
>> newsgroups contain individuals that are interested in the
>> post.
>>
>> I have received emails from people that have been watching
>> your fraud and smear gang unravel, and they are rejoicing in
>> the fact that finally someone is standing up to your
>> forgeries, fraud, and outright obloquy you and your gang
>> members use to target your smear victims.
>
> Sure you have (this is not an acknowledgement of the veracity
> of your claim to have received "supporting emails" it is
> sarcasm)
>
>> Each newsgroup I list has responded at one time or another to
>> this issue, in many different ways. So please stop trying to
>> hide the truth about your forgeries, fraud and unethical
>> behavior....I noticed you did not try to omit newsgroups when
>> you and Brooks and other gang members were posting your fraud
>> and forgeries about me.
>>
>> I have received a recent confirmation from Chip over this
>> issue and he confirmed precisely what he told me before, that
>> (1) he does not have a Purple Heart Medal, and (2) that was
>> not the context of his post, he was talking about Purple Heart
>> Cards and NOT Medals, which was a previous topic prior to this
>> post.
>
> Perhaps you would be so kind as to provide a copy of the
> communication between yourself and Mr. Ciammaichella - either
> here in these forums - or posted to your
> http://groups.google.com/group/namesofcyberstalkers google
> group.

Doug Says: Mr. Ciammaichella has not authorized me to repeat any
email correspondence between him and I...but I will state again
that he has confirmed that he was talking about Purple Heart
Cards and not Medals as he originally confirmed a few weeks after
the original exchange in 2003. Yet I notice that you, Mr. Brooks
has claimed he told you otherwise, and I say your claim he
contradicted the facts in this issue is an outright lie. Mr.
Ciammaichella did not tell you otherwise, and in fact did not
communicate with you at all....your claim is an outright lie and
fraudulent misrepresentation. Mr. Ciammaichella would never
claim a medal that he did not possess.
>
> Also kindly provide the appropriate reference for the "previous
> topic prior to this post" which referred to "Purple Heart
> Cards" there doesn't seem to be any such reference in Mr.
> Ciammaichella's google profile. A query of the google group
> archive only returns 16 instances where he has mentioned
> "Purple Heart"
>
> 1. To all members of this group - On Sept 11, 2002 (post 13
> and 100 of the thread)
> 2. Dems Want Draft Reinstate...Kool!!! - On Jan 11 -13, 2003
> (posts 74, 80, 85, 87)
> 3. Iraq: Direct action may become a necessity - on Jan 20,
> 2003
> 4. I was spit on when I returned from Vietnam - on Jan 28,
> 2003
> 5. Overpass Peace Protests anre booming - now spread to seven
> states - On Feb 3, 2003
> 6. The smoking gun has arrived - on Feb 5, 2003
> 7. 10 million join world protest rallies - on Feb 16, 2003
> 8. Al Qaeda Says Saddam an Infidel - on Feb 16, 2003 (posts 16
> and 18)
> 9. Vietnam was horrible thee was no room for Christ there - on
> Feb 17, 2003
> 10. Stand to the side lib pussies - and watch some real
> americans - on Mar 18, 2003
> 11. Hateful Democrats call American Troops baby killers - on
> Mar 29, 2003
>
> Also of note is the fact that you appear in only one of those
> exchanges in the thread entitled "Al Qaeda Says Saddam an
> Infidel"

Doug Says: You need to search further. I have several posts in
which I referenced purple heart cards, and whether Mr. Chip
referenced them in exchanges that did not involve me has no
bearing whatsoever as to my understanding and my typists'
understanding of the context of the Purple Heart Cards post he
directed to me...which Purple Heart Cards context he has
confirmed, not once, but now twice! Also please provide the
URL's of what you claim Chip wrote that did not involve me, so
far, all I see is perhaps more forgeries from Nigel Brooks, seral
liar.
>
>> I should also point out that in Feburary 2004, LONG BEFORE you
>> and Brooks started your smear campaign against me, I clearly
>> stated that I did not have a Purple Heart Medal. And then
>> after that date I reiterated that fact at least six more
>> times. It is obviously ridiculous to claim that I was
>> claiming I had a Purple Heart Medal in 2003, and so was Chip,
>> yet neither of us have that Medal, then in 2004 I and Chip
>> both stated the exact opposite!
>
> Actually, Mr. Ciammaichella is quite clear when he speaks about
> the Purple Heart he received in Lebanon.

Doug Says: Please provide the Google URL for the following post.
And I do note that you admit I was not involved nor knew of the
thread you are (fraudulently?) quoting. Consequently, it had
nothing to do with his context of Purple Heart Cards which was
the topic of the post that involved my typist and I..... So
attempting to take a post fragment (could be a forgery) from a
post you admit I had no knowledge of, to change a context in
which Chip made clear to me and my typist, is beyond fraud, it is
irrational desperation and obvious nonsense.

That is akin to me posting your claim of winning Victoria Crosses
in Vietnam, and winning Vietnam Campaign medals after you were
discharged to claims of you being a fake Federal Agent so as to
intimidate people not to rebut your lies and fraud. The two
claims are not related.
>
> a. In the "The Smoking Gun has arrived" thread (which you were
> not a participant to) - he said the following:
>
> " Among my decorations are a Combat Action Ribbon and a Purple
> Heart I have the dubious honor of winning after being
> wounded in action in Beirut in 1983."
>
> b. In the "I was spit on when I returned from Vietnam" thread
> he said this"
>
> "I also have a little bitty scar on my belly and a much bigger
> scar on my lower back that earned me this
> cute little piece of ribbon with a purple heart hanging from
> it, that I ****ed up and got in Lebanon in 1983. "
>
> He quite obviously was not speaking about a "card" in that
> post- it is clear that he was speaking about the Purple Heart
> Medal which is awarded to authorized personnel for wounds and
> injuries received as a result of enemy action.

Doug Says: I could care less what Chip said in other posts that
were not directed to me nor involved me, nor I even knew about,
which have zero bearing on this issue smear Merchant Brooks.

When he was addressing me, he was talking about Purple Heart
Cards, as he clearly stated and confirmed, and then recently
re-confirmed via email. Since you admit I was not involved in
the exchange above, I can only believe what the man said to me,
which was his reference to Purple Heart Cards....which prompted
my typist's reply in the same context.

So Chip, I, and my typist say our exchange was about Purple
Heart Cards, and you now claim that you know more than all three
people involved in the exchange? And now you are also calling
Chip a liar? Please Brooks, your fraud is glaring as usual. NO
DOUBT BECAUSE YOU ADDED THE TERM "MEDALS" TO HIS AND MY TYPIST'S
POST YOU ARE DUCKING AND DODGING YOUR FRAUD AND FORGERY----But in
truth Brooks, you have been caught, once again, in Tar Baby,
forging, lying and using outright fraud to defame, smear and cast
your target victims in a false light so as to incite and
encourage threats of death and violence....I strongly suggest you
consider the repercussions of your actions in the future.
>
>> Further, if you claim we were talking about Medals and not
>> Cards, then you are calling ALL THREE individuals involved in
>> this exchange a liar, Chip, me and my typist. Yet we were the
>> ONLY people that could have possibly known our context and
>> what we were talking about, not unless of course, you are
>> going to dreg up your acclaimed "mind reading skills" again -
>> and if you do that I will provide some more mind reading tests
>> for you, and as we both know, you and Brooks have failed all
>> of those mind reading tests miserably in the past.
>
> I think it is obvious who is the liar here Mr. Reiman - and I
> certainly do not acknowledge that you utilized a typist or
> anyone other than yourself made the Purple Heart (post number
> 17) claim.

Doug Says: Yes it is obvious that none of the posts contained
the term Medals, and you forged that term into those post, that
you, Nigel Brooks, are the obvious liar here. Moreover,
considering there is no way in the world you could know what I
used or the name of the typist that is willing to swear in court
that she was talking about Cards and that she typed the post, and
that Chip also confirmed that he was talking about Cards and not
medals, then clearly, any representation contrary to all those
people involved in both sides of this issue can only be
considered complete and outright fraud, false representations and
outright lies....which is clearly what you are doing Mr. Brooks.
ALL THOSE INVOLVED SAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CARDS AND NOT
MEDALS! How in the world can you claim to know more than all
three individuals involved in the exchange???? Mind reading?
More of your "Swami" bullshit? That what you are all about
Brooks. Nonsense and bullshit.

You are fraudulently attempting to contradict what all three of
those individuals involved in this exchange say was the context
of their discussion, and using criminal libel in the process. So
why am I not surprised at your lack of ethics Brooks?
>
> As indicated above - Mr. Ciammaichella is clearly speaking of
> the Purple Heart Medal when he call it a "cute little piece of
> ribbon with a purple heart hanging from it" in his post to the
> thread "I was spit on when I returned from Vietnam"

Doug Says: Mr. Brooks, you have taken a statement from Chip in a
completely different post that had nothing to do with Post 17 or
18, which you admit had nothing to do with me or the exchange my
typist had with him, and tried to use that non-applicable and
non-confirmed post fragment to apply to a post in which he was
talking about a Purple Heart Card which designates a service
connected disability at the time of his post. What he said in
other posts that I did not read nor applied to me could not
possibly have anything to do with the context he presented to me,
which he said was Purple Heart Cards. My typist replied in that
context, and the Google archive proves that fact irrefutably.
Moreover, I note that you do not provide any URL to confirm what
you claim Chip said in other posts that I had no knowledge of, so
I will assume they are just more Nigel Brooks forgeries as
usual....caught again Brooks I see....

You have fraudulently taken an alleged statement from Chip in a
post I clearly never saw nor replied to, and you have tried to
include it in an exchange I had with him in which he clearly said
did NOT involve the Purple Heart Medal, but instead, referenced
the Purple Heart Card. Your attempt to forge a post I never saw
nor responded to into my typist's response about Purple Heart
Cards is beyond unethical, it is outright fraud. The two posts
(if the one you are referencing exists which I doubt) are not
related, you know that, I know that, and the court will know that
fact as well. What Chip said or did not say in the past has no
relevance on what he did say to me, which was referencing a
Purple Heart Card, and NOT A MEDAL, (remember you FORGED THE TERM
MEDAL IN BOTH POSTS) and that prompted my typist's reply in the
same context....which BTW Google will confirm.
>
>> Your fraud and forgeries have been exposed yet again Mr. Rau,
>> and if you would like to see a copy of that post, and/or the
>> reason it was removed, and if it does not state to Google an
>> issue about Purple Heart Cards, then I will pay all
>> fees....but if Google confirms what I am saying is true, you
>> pay the fees. It won't cost much for a lawyer to process a
>> Subpoena to Google, so how about it Rau, Brooks, SteveL, MAC,
>> and other gang members, are you going to "Walk the Walk" or is
>> it just "Big Hat No Cattle" once again from the Brooks smear
>> gang and his Brownies?
>
> The only fraud here is you Mr. Reiman - what you might have
> told the good folks at google in your request to remove the
> post wherein you claimed to have had a Purple Heart is
> immaterial - you are simply not to be believed.

Doug Says: Mr. Brooks, I never claimed to have a Purple Heart
Medal in any post, and Google will confirm the reason the post
was removed, and confirm it was dealing with a Purple Heart Card
and not a Medal. You forged the term "Medal" in the post and now
you are attempting to attribute your forgery to me. I find it
amazing Mr. Brooks that when your fraud, false accusations,
obloquy and outright criminal libel has been exposed for what it
is, you blame me for your unethical practices.

Google will confirm the reason the post was removed, and the
context of the post, and this post was removed long before you or
your smear gang said a word about it.....so Google, like all
those Web Mangers that forced your eleven web sites down for your
abuse and fraud, (I believe Brooks holds the record for web sites
forced down due to fraud and abuse) will be considered
independent of this issue.

Like I said, if Google does not provide a copy of the post in
which my typist clearly said we were talking about Purple Heart
Cards, or the reason for the removal did not address that issue,
then I will pay for all costs to Subpoena Google, but if it does
confirm what I said, then you confess to criminal libel and you
pay the costs....time to Walk theWalk Mr. Brooks..

And if you think this is the end of the surprises that are in
store for you and your gang, you must realize that I have just
began to defend myself from your glaring fraud, false
accusations, forgeries and smear tactics.

Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>
>

 

[SteveL]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:45:51 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
<dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>Bottom Line:
>
>Chip says he was not referencing a Purple Heart Medal

Where?

, my typist
>says she was not referencing a purple heart medal, I say when I
>was consulted on this post I did not respond referencing a Purple
>Heart Medal, and so what Dai Uy say?
>
>I, duh, read, duh, minds, and I say, duh, all do youse guys are
>lying, but duh, I does, not know, duh, nor can I, duh, well, duh.
>
>Fact: Chip said he was talking about Purple Heart Cards not
>medals,

Liar. The context is clear and you are sinking faster than a brick.

> I say that was the topic of conversation, my typist's
>notes say the same, the Google archive in respect to the reason
>for removal of the post confirms this fact....conclusion:
>
>Dai Uy, and Nigel Brooks and gang have been caught in mid con and
>mid smear once again.
>
>Fact: Nigel Brooks and Tom Rau FORGED the term "Medal" into Chip
>and my typists' post and reply

Do you think that people cannot read?

Google of thread in question
(the last time I clicked it your post 17 came up again).
http://tinyurl.com/kfz36

Of course the facts are simple to verify. The posts simply refer to
"Purple Heart". The word "medal" is not used anywhere.

Good God, Doug. Who on earth do you think you are kidding? Anyone who
takes an the merest interest can simply read it for themselves on the
Google site, and you are proven to be a complete and total crackpot
(pathological) liar,

You are the most pathetically dishonest speciment of the human race I
have ever come across.

You truly are insane !

See a doctor.


>......another Brooks/Rau forgery,
>and this time, criminal libel. Like I said, dishonor, fraud,
>unethical practices are the clear and obvious tactics of Tom Rau
>and Nigel Brooks in respect to this issue and many more.
>
>So is Rau going to confess to criminal libel, or is he going to
>take my challenge of an independent legal review of this issue
>and others?
>
>Watch him duck, run, squirm and cower to this challenge.



>
>
>
>
>Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>
>
>"Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>newsai-Uy-48AE59.04452511112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
>> In article <xbednRuFgslqyKvanZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dai Uy" <Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> newsai-Uy-C739A6.10335310112007@news-server.hawaii.rr.com...
>>> > In article <gbSdneBmSs9YyajanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> > "DGVREIMAN" <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Doug Says: The above post was not composed nor written nor
>>> >> posted by me, and regardless, it is not referencing medals.
>>
>> Your statement; "Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also,
>> and I received mine in a real war" is referencing the Purple
>> Heart medal.
>>
>> This will be quite long, lest you accuse me of hiding your
>> eloquent and revealing words.
>>
>> I'll try to write this response so that a third grader can
>> understand.
>>
>>> >
>>> > The headers clearly indicate that Message-ID:
>>> > <WaU3a.38894$rq4.3061...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>>> > was written by "DGVREIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>.
>>> > Accept
>>> > the facts.
>>> >
>>> >> The
>>> >> cut and paste by ChIp is incomplete, does not contain the
>>> >> last
>>> >> paragraph that explains what the typist was referencing.
>>> >
>>> > No doubt you will be posting a revised version with the
>>> > missing last paragraph that will explain what the typist was
>>> > referencing.
>>>
>>> Doug's Rebuttal: In fact, if a criminal charges are filed
>>> over
>>> this issue (which will happen if anyone states that I claimed
>>> a
>>> purple heart medal as a statement of fact and not as some
>>> smear
>>> merchant's fraudulent opinion which is clearly designed to
>>> defame) or a lawyer gets involved, the prosecutor or the
>>> lawyer
>>> (if no statement of fact from an identifiable person I can
>>> file
>>> a Federal court action at my expense asking for a restraining
>>> order and damages in respect to this issue as soon as next
>>> week)
>>> the lawyer can then Subpoena Google for a copy and the reason
>>> it
>>> was removed. If the reason provided google for removal does
>>> not
>>> state this post was removed due to the context being Purple
>>> Heart
>>> Cards, or if the post itself does not state that fact as my
>>> typist's notes indicate, then I will pay for all legal fees
>>> and
>>> withdraw all charges. However, if it does contain the
>>> Purple
>>> Heart Card reference, then YOU plead guilty to criminal libel
>>> (that is if you are stating as a fact I ever claimed I had won
>>> a
>>> purple heart medal) and you pay for the legal fees. If you
>>> are
>>> not stating as a statement of fact that I ever claimed a
>>> Purple
>>> Heart Medal then I suggest you stop attempting to associate me
>>> with people that have been arrested for claiming fake medals
>>> or
>>> for defrauding the US Government in some manner or another,
>>> because such fraudulent associations clearly are designed to
>>> criminally libel me by claiming I too am guilty of the same
>>> crimes you are reporting. And even if you do not mention me
>>> by
>>> name, your gang leader follows up on your post and does, which
>>> is
>>> clearly represents criminal conspiracy to criminally libel me
>>> over this issue.
>>>
>>> I have not filed a single criminal complaint against anyone
>>> that
>>> I believed to be a Veteran (SteveL is the one exception).
>>> However, one more fraudulent association in that regard should
>>> be
>>> enough for me to demand criminal libel charges be filed
>>> against
>>> you in your home town, and then the Prosecutor can be the one
>>> that contacts Google, and I will get a trip to Hawaii to
>>> testify.
>>> If you continue to accuse me of a crime by implication or
>>> statement, I will take legal action against you.
>>
>> That sounds like yet another of your threats of legal
>> action. I heard that posting threats of a financial nature on
>> usenet is against federal law. But, it's probably not true.
>> The person who posted that factoid is a notorious liar.
>>
>>> >
>>> > Chip quoted your entire message - refutting it point by
>>> > point, paragraph by paragraph -- including the last
>>> > paragraph.
>>> > He deleted only your signature.
>>
>> That's a fact. The posts that I provided in their
>> entirety confirm that.
>>
>>>
>>> Doug Says: Bullshit. See above to prove this issue once and
>>> for
>>> all.
>>
>> The posts, number 17 and 18, and their headers, already
>> prove who wrote what.
>>
>>> He cut and pasted only the part he wanted to respond to and
>>> the bottom of the post was not repeated by Chip, and your own
>>> admission that he did not cut and paste any signature proves
>>> that
>>> fact. Had he provided the entire post then a signature
>>> would
>>> have appeared at the immediate bottom of the fragement he
>>> excerpted.
>>
>> Isn't that what I said, he deleted ONLY the signature?
>
>No Signature, no complete post, including what was written ABOVE
>THE SIGNATURE!
>
>
>>
>>> But it is interesting that you now admit that no
>>> signature appears on the post, yet in ALL other cases it
>>> does....You have just proved my point Mr. Rau that the cut and
>>> paste by Chip was NOT complete and did not include the entire
>>> contents of Post 17.
>>
>> Okay, here's the entire contents of post number 17 -- the
>> one that you swore to be the author of when you had it removed.
>
>Doug Says: More Dai Uy fraud. I do not need to be the author of
>the post to have it removed. Anyone can check with Google and
>prove that Dai Uy (Tom Rau) is lying through his teeth. And the
>post below clearly is not Post 17, no Signature and what appears
>above the Signature. More obvious and incredible fraud and
>forgeries from Thomas Rau:
>>
>> >
>>> >
>>> > See original messages -- yours and Chip C's -- below:
>>> >
>>> > Here is your original post (Number 17 in the thread)
>>>
>>> Mr. Rau, you and I both know you are simply repeating what
>>> Chip
>>> cut and pasted over a different post header.
>>
>> You know that it is an archived copy of the post that you
>> swore you were the author of.
>
>Doug Says: Your lying and desperation is obvious and
>pathological. I swore I was the author? Bwhahahahah you are
>nuts....please provide an URL to the archived copy you are
>referncing, your dreams, your Walter Mitty fantasy, crazy, nuts,
>goofy.....need some help Rau.
>>
>>> If post 17 was
>>> complete it would have included a signature and the statement
>>> at
>>> the bottom of the post that referenced the fact we were
>>> discussing cards and not medals. The signature is missing.
>>
>> Your signature is not missing on post 17 that you swore
>> you were the author of. There was no statement in regarding
>> cards. Furthermore, there is not, and never has been a card
>> called the "Purple Heart Card." That is as stupid as saying a
>> SFC was a butter-bar.
>
>Doug Says: There is no post that references Medals, that forgery
>was added by your gang leader Nigel Brooks. If Chip says we were
>talking about Cards, and my typist says we were talking about
>Cards, and I say we were talking about Cards, and the recent
>confirmation to Chip confirms we were talking about Cards, and we
>were the only three people involved in the discussion, then where
>in the hell do you get off telling us what we were talking about?
>Mind reading? Reading the entails of little animals?
>Duhhhhhhhhh! The people involved in discussion are the ONLY
>people that know the context of what they were talking about, and
>you and your gang have been caught once again, like Brier Rabbit,
>it the Tar Baby.....and there is much more to come, much more.
>
>Bwhahahahahahahhahahah.
>
>Fraud merchants always eventually show their true colors
>>
>>> The
>>> statement in parentheses is missing. You and the
>>> Cyberstalking
>>> nutcase SteveL are simply forging headers over a cut and past
>>> by
>>> Chip. Your forgery is obvious.
>>
>> That is a libelous falsehood, intended to harm our
>> reputations. Perhaps you should consult with your lawyer
>> before making those kinds of statements.
>
>Doug Says: If you want, my lawyer can send you and your local
>prosecutor a letter confirming that fact? Do you agree?
>
>>>
>>> We all can see what you two are doing in your desperation.
>>
>> What do you mean "we"?
>
>Doug Says:
>
>You and your smear gang.
>>
>>> There
>>> is no signature on the post and no statement in
>>> parentheses....the post is clearly incomplete.
>>
>> There is a signature on the post you wrote (number 17) and
>> have attempted to hide. There is not a statement in
>> parentheses.
>
>Doug Says: Then please provide a copy of the post that contains
>the signature and the statement above the signature. No? Like I
>said, a forgery.
>>
>>> If you disagree
>>> find another complete post from the account I was using that
>>> did
>>> not contain a signature.n No?
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> I've told you five or six times that YOU signed your post
>> (number 17). Chip C did not copy your signature when he
>> replied in post number 18. He copied everything else.
>
>Doug Says: Please provide your evidence that I signed post 17???
>It does not appear in your forgery? Afraid to repost a forged
>signature? Your lies and obvious forgeries are glaring Mr.
>Rau....and there is much more to come over this issue.
>>
>>> Of course not becuase none exist.
>>
>> A freudian slip? Of course there was no statement in
>> parenthese
>>
>>> However, you claim that I wrote this post although you also
>>> acknowledge that this is the only post from the account I was
>>> using that DID NOT contain a signature.
>>
>> Damn you're dense. In all seriousness Doug, you need to
>> get a grip.
>>
>>> So who signed the post?
>>
>> Follow along here Doug,
>>
>> You signed post number 17.
>
>Please provide Post number 17 with my signature. A failure to do
>so will be a de facto admission you are lying and using fraud to
>falsely accuse me of a crime.
>
>We are waiting. Are you ready to confess to criminal libel or
>should my lawyer contact you directly?
>
>Doug Grant (Tm)
>>

 

[SteveL]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:45:26 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
<dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:

<snip>

>You have fraudulently taken an alleged statement from Chip in a
>post I clearly never saw nor replied to, and you have tried to
>include it in an exchange I had with him in which he clearly said
>did NOT involve the Purple Heart Medal, but instead, referenced
>the Purple Heart Card. Your attempt to forge a post I never saw
>nor responded to into my typist's response about Purple Heart
>Cards is beyond unethical, it is outright fraud. The two posts
>(if the one you are referencing exists which I doubt) are not
>related, you know that, I know that, and the court will know that
>fact as well. What Chip said or did not say in the past has no
>relevance on what he did say to me, which was referencing a
>Purple Heart Card, and NOT A MEDAL, (remember you FORGED THE TERM
>MEDAL IN BOTH POSTS) and that prompted my typist's reply in the
>same context....which BTW Google will confirm.

The term "MEDAL" does not exist in any of the posts in question -
certainly not in any of the quotes.. The posts simply refer to a
"Purple Heart" PERIOD.

Chip's two posts are still there on Google. So you cannot get away
with lying about them (though you're crazy enough to keep trying.

Nope, the only one using the "medal" qualifier is you , and if you're
going to try to claim that the image the simple term "Purple Heart"
conjures up is that of a "card" (whatever that means) and not the
medal, then you are even crazier than we'd already believed you to be
(and that's ****ING crazy!)

Are you stating categorically and on YOUR WORD and FOR THE RECORD that
Dan "Chip" Ciammaichella has had any dialog with you about this issue
and that he denies he has a Purple Heart or was talking about a Purple
Heart "card" in this exchange?

Careful what you casually commit yourself to, Dougie.

You've already claimed that your were not the author of post 17 (and
that you even had a "statement" from the real author "certifying" that
you were not the author).

You've also claimed that you WERE the author (and even chided people
for trying to mind read what you meant).

Both things cannot be true and therefore you must be lying about at
least one of them.

You're also lying about your communications with Chip.

Feel free to prove me wrong - and remember that assertions are not
proof.

 

[The Shadow]

On Nov 11, 9:45 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:45:51 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
>
> <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Bottom Line:
>
~~ very long snip ~~~

Did you, or has anyone, retained a copy of Mr. Reiman's original
post? It seems that post number 13, posted by DGVREIMAN on November
11th, to the thread: "Rebuttal Rau No Signature Admission ( Was Re:
Huxton Walk the Walk Re: CLINTONS' AND CYBERSTALKERS" has already been
mysteriously removed from the Google archive. See URL:
http://urlx.org/google.com/033c0

One must wonder why?

Might it have anything to do with the uncorroborated statements that
he is attributing to Dan "Chip" Ciammaichella?

Even The Shadow doesn't know.....

 

[DGVREIMAN]

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"The Shadow" <dashado@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194885323.538509.83940@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 9:45 pm, SteveL <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:45:51 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
>>
>> <dgvreiman@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Bottom Line:
>>
> ~~ very long snip ~~~
>
> Did you, or has anyone, retained a copy of Mr. Reiman's
> original
> post? It seems that post number 13, posted by DGVREIMAN on
> November
> 11th, to the thread: "Rebuttal Rau No Signature Admission ( Was
> Re:
> Huxton Walk the Walk Re: CLINTONS' AND CYBERSTALKERS" has
> already been
> mysteriously removed from the Google archive. See URL:
> http://urlx.org/google.com/033c0
>
> One must wonder why?
>
> Might it have anything to do with the uncorroborated statements
> that
> he is attributing to Dan "Chip" Ciammaichella?
>
> Even The Shadow doesn't know.....

Doug Says: SteveL: You have been informed several times that
anonymous cyberstalking is a Federal Crime. Please reference
H.R. 3402 Section 113, which provides Federal Criminal penalities
for anonymous cyberstalking, which you clearly are doing with
your repeated posting of fraud and outright forgeries in respect
to me.

The post you are referencing above has not been removed, nor has
the statement from Daniel "Chip" Ciammaichella that he does not
have a Purple Heart Medal and therefore could not have been
referencing one in his post been uncorroborated. In fact it has
been corroborated as recently as last week.

Please call the FBI and turn yourself in for Cyberstalking and
criminal copyright violations. Once you contact the FBI please
have them contact me for the appropriate criminal complaints.
This will be your last chance to voluntarily turn yourself in for
Federal Cyberstalking and criminal copyright violations prior to
my lawyer contacting the proper authorities about you....

Doug Grant (Tm)




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