Corzine's driver faces police review - Criminal Coddling on Display

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

http://tinyurl.com/25rwvb

Corzine's driver faces police review

Friday, April 20, 2007

By JOHN P. McALPIN and JOSH GOHLKE - AP

An internal state police panel of accident experts will decide if
Governor Corzine's driver was at fault in last week's crash, and only
the state police superintendent will say if he will face disciplinary
action.

That has some experts wondering if the state police should be the only
ones reviewing an accident where their driver was speeding and the
governor not wearing his seat belt. In some cases, courts have approved
outside monitors to review police actions to ensure public
accountability, experts noted.

(snip)

Corzine's case, however, is different. Not so much so because of the
trooper's passenger, but for how the accident was presented to the public.

At first, state police said it was the driver of a red pickup truck that
caused last week's crash and that speed played no part in the wreck.
Then came word that Rasinski was using the SUV's emergency lights to
move traffic out of the way as Corzine headed to Princeton to broker a
meeting between disgraced radio star Don Imus and the Rutgers women's
basketball team.

On Tuesday, Fuentes said crash data showed Rasinski was going at least
91 mph seconds before the crash. The highway's posted speed limit is 65 mph.

Now police believe that the driver of the red pickup was trying to avoid
Corzine's car, believing there was an accident or other emergency. That
truck driver moved to the highway's shoulder but lost control and
swerved back into traffic. The driver of a white Dodge Ram moved to
avoid the red Ford and then struck Corzine's SUV.

Corzine

 

You accidently got the words backwards, and added too many words, I fixed
them for you in this, "An internal expert Police State panel..."

In service of God and Country

Joseph


"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:TIzXh.4852$j63.714@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25rwvb
>
> Corzine's driver faces police review
>
> Friday, April 20, 2007
>
> By JOHN P. McALPIN and JOSH GOHLKE - AP
>
> An internal state police panel of accident experts will decide if Governor
> Corzine's driver was at fault in last week's crash, and only the state
> police superintendent will say if he will face disciplinary action.
>
> That has some experts wondering if the state police should be the only
> ones reviewing an accident where their driver was speeding and the
> governor not wearing his seat belt. In some cases, courts have approved
> outside monitors to review police actions to ensure public accountability,
> experts noted.
>
> (snip)
>
> Corzine's case, however, is different. Not so much so because of the
> trooper's passenger, but for how the accident was presented to the public.
>
> At first, state police said it was the driver of a red pickup truck that
> caused last week's crash and that speed played no part in the wreck. Then
> came word that Rasinski was using the SUV's emergency lights to move
> traffic out of the way as Corzine headed to Princeton to broker a meeting
> between disgraced radio star Don Imus and the Rutgers women's basketball
> team.
>
> On Tuesday, Fuentes said crash data showed Rasinski was going at least 91
> mph seconds before the crash. The highway's posted speed limit is 65 mph.
>
> Now police believe that the driver of the red pickup was trying to avoid
> Corzine's car, believing there was an accident or other emergency. That
> truck driver moved to the highway's shoulder but lost control and swerved
> back into traffic. The driver of a white Dodge Ram moved to avoid the red
> Ford and then struck Corzine's SUV.
>
> Corzine

 

[GK]

Joseph wrote:
> You accidently got the words backwards, and added too many words, I
> fixed them for you in this, "An internal expert Police State panel..."
>
> In service of God and Country
>
> Joseph
>
>
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:TIzXh.4852$j63.714@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/25rwvb
>>
>> Corzine's driver faces police review
>>
>> Friday, April 20, 2007
>>
>> By JOHN P. McALPIN and JOSH GOHLKE - AP
>>
>> An internal state police panel of accident experts will decide if
>> Governor Corzine's driver was at fault in last week's crash, and only
>> the state police superintendent will say if he will face disciplinary
>> action.
>>
>> That has some experts wondering if the state police should be the only
>> ones reviewing an accident where their driver was speeding and the
>> governor not wearing his seat belt. In some cases, courts have
>> approved outside monitors to review police actions to ensure public
>> accountability, experts noted.
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> Corzine's case, however, is different. Not so much so because of the
>> trooper's passenger, but for how the accident was presented to the
>> public.
>>
>> At first, state police said it was the driver of a red pickup truck
>> that caused last week's crash and that speed played no part in the
>> wreck. Then came word that Rasinski was using the SUV's emergency
>> lights to move traffic out of the way as Corzine headed to Princeton
>> to broker a meeting between disgraced radio star Don Imus and the
>> Rutgers women's basketball team.
>>
>> On Tuesday, Fuentes said crash data showed Rasinski was going at least
>> 91 mph seconds before the crash. The highway's posted speed limit is
>> 65 mph.
>>
>> Now police believe that the driver of the red pickup was trying to
>> avoid Corzine's car, believing there was an accident or other
>> emergency. That truck driver moved to the highway's shoulder but lost
>> control and swerved back into traffic. The driver of a white Dodge Ram
>> moved to avoid the red Ford and then struck Corzine's SUV.
>>
>> Corzine

 

That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned up
in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat belts off in
time! So by the Law, they were ordered to do what killed them! Who was
right? Were those that think they were saving life but caused death, right?
Who is responsible for their death? Should it be left up to the free will
and free choice for the individual to make the choice for themselves, in
each new circumstance, or should they be forced to do what may just as
easily kill them, rather than save them? Why do you guys always want to
destroy Life and Liberty, do not you know or understand that without the
freedom to choose for oneself, in each new circumstance, that the letter of
the Law Kills? I am allergic to Wheat Glutton, should I be forced to eat
Wheat Glutton just because the majority does? I have bad reactions to Most
Prescription Drugs that nearly kill me, should I be forced to take
Prescription Drugs, just because the majority can handle the bad side
effects? But by they Law they repeatedly force Prescription Psychotropic
Drugs on me that may kill me! Owned by the Slave Masters, the Drug Dealers
and the Law Enforcers that support the greed of our Drug Pushers, who
repeatedly force Enslaving Drugs upon us falsely saying that they are
helping us, Us Iatrogenic Slaves, say to our Slave Masters, give us Liberty,
or give us Death!

HTTP://JosephLoegering.blogspot.com

In service of God and Country

Joseph

"GK" <ontheair247@atverizon.net> wrote in message
news:%dGXh.3626$nR1.3587@trnddc06...
> Joseph wrote:
>> You accidently got the words backwards, and added too many words, I fixed
>> them for you in this, "An internal expert Police State panel..."
>>
>> In service of God and Country
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:TIzXh.4852$j63.714@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/25rwvb
>>>
>>> Corzine's driver faces police review
>>>
>>> Friday, April 20, 2007
>>>
>>> By JOHN P. McALPIN and JOSH GOHLKE - AP
>>>
>>> An internal state police panel of accident experts will decide if
>>> Governor Corzine's driver was at fault in last week's crash, and only
>>> the state police superintendent will say if he will face disciplinary
>>> action.
>>>
>>> That has some experts wondering if the state police should be the only
>>> ones reviewing an accident where their driver was speeding and the
>>> governor not wearing his seat belt. In some cases, courts have approved
>>> outside monitors to review police actions to ensure public
>>> accountability, experts noted.
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> Corzine's case, however, is different. Not so much so because of the
>>> trooper's passenger, but for how the accident was presented to the
>>> public.
>>>
>>> At first, state police said it was the driver of a red pickup truck that
>>> caused last week's crash and that speed played no part in the wreck.
>>> Then came word that Rasinski was using the SUV's emergency lights to
>>> move traffic out of the way as Corzine headed to Princeton to broker a
>>> meeting between disgraced radio star Don Imus and the Rutgers women's
>>> basketball team.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, Fuentes said crash data showed Rasinski was going at least
>>> 91 mph seconds before the crash. The highway's posted speed limit is 65
>>> mph.
>>>
>>> Now police believe that the driver of the red pickup was trying to avoid
>>> Corzine's car, believing there was an accident or other emergency. That
>>> truck driver moved to the highway's shoulder but lost control and
>>> swerved back into traffic. The driver of a white Dodge Ram moved to
>>> avoid the red Ford and then struck Corzine's SUV.
>>>
>>> Corzine

 

[Server 13]

<Joseph> wrote in message
news:L_6dndOK67Mzo7LbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned up
> in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat belts off
> in time! So by the Law, they were ordered to do what killed them! Who was
> right? Were those that think they were saving life but caused death,
> right? Who is responsible for their death? Should it be left up to the
> free will and free choice for the individual to make the choice for
> themselves, in each new circumstance, or should they be forced to do what
> may just as easily kill them, rather than save them? Why do you guys
> always want to destroy Life and Liberty, do not you know or understand
> that without the freedom to choose for oneself, in each new circumstance,
> that the letter of the Law Kills? I am allergic to Wheat Glutton, should I
> be forced to eat Wheat Glutton just because the majority does? I have bad
> reactions to Most Prescription Drugs that nearly kill me, should I be
> forced to take Prescription Drugs, just because the majority can handle
> the bad side effects? But by they Law they repeatedly force Prescription
> Psychotropic Drugs on me that may kill me! Owned by the Slave Masters, the
> Drug Dealers and the Law Enforcers that support the greed of our Drug
> Pushers, who repeatedly force Enslaving Drugs upon us falsely saying that
> they are helping us, Us Iatrogenic Slaves, say to our Slave Masters, give
> us Liberty, or give us Death!
>
> HTTP://JosephLoegering.blogspot.com

lol Must be a single white male.


>
> In service of God and Country
>
> Joseph
>
> "GK" <ontheair247@atverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%dGXh.3626$nR1.3587@trnddc06...
>> Joseph wrote:
>>> You accidently got the words backwards, and added too many words, I
>>> fixed them for you in this, "An internal expert Police State panel..."
>>>
>>> In service of God and Country
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:TIzXh.4852$j63.714@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/25rwvb
>>>>
>>>> Corzine's driver faces police review
>>>>
>>>> Friday, April 20, 2007
>>>>
>>>> By JOHN P. McALPIN and JOSH GOHLKE - AP
>>>>
>>>> An internal state police panel of accident experts will decide if
>>>> Governor Corzine's driver was at fault in last week's crash, and only
>>>> the state police superintendent will say if he will face disciplinary
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>> That has some experts wondering if the state police should be the only
>>>> ones reviewing an accident where their driver was speeding and the
>>>> governor not wearing his seat belt. In some cases, courts have approved
>>>> outside monitors to review police actions to ensure public
>>>> accountability, experts noted.
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>> Corzine's case, however, is different. Not so much so because of the
>>>> trooper's passenger, but for how the accident was presented to the
>>>> public.
>>>>
>>>> At first, state police said it was the driver of a red pickup truck
>>>> that caused last week's crash and that speed played no part in the
>>>> wreck. Then came word that Rasinski was using the SUV's emergency
>>>> lights to move traffic out of the way as Corzine headed to Princeton to
>>>> broker a meeting between disgraced radio star Don Imus and the Rutgers
>>>> women's basketball team.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, Fuentes said crash data showed Rasinski was going at least
>>>> 91 mph seconds before the crash. The highway's posted speed limit is 65
>>>> mph.
>>>>
>>>> Now police believe that the driver of the red pickup was trying to
>>>> avoid Corzine's car, believing there was an accident or other
>>>> emergency. That truck driver moved to the highway's shoulder but lost
>>>> control and swerved back into traffic. The driver of a white Dodge Ram
>>>> moved to avoid the red Ford and then struck Corzine's SUV.
>>>>
>>>> Corzine

 

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

GK wrote:

>>
> There is no corruption involved here. This is normal practice in all
> states, all day long. Sometimes even those fast moving State Troopers
> can't get out of the way of us ordinary civilians just driving to work.
> I say better to have driving on limited access highways restricted to
> drivers that can pass a more rigid driving test. As it is now, any clown
> can get on a high speed road and cause all sorts of problems to others.
> Should be a driving test with mandatory high speed driving required.
> Blow your doors off, you criminal slow speed lugtard coddler.
>
> G

You know, of course, that you're a psychopath. How many kids do you
gleefully kill by your speeding each week?

 

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

Joseph wrote:
> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned
> up in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat belts
> off in time!

Now how the hell, do you know that?? If they'd been unbuckled they'd
have likely been killed instantly when their head hit the windshield or
something.

Anyway, i bet they were doing 90 mph and that's the real problem.

 

My uncle was a State trooper, and the rescuers were trying to cut the seat
belts while the cars were burning, they got the children out that were not
wearing belts, but the adults burned up.

It happens a lot!

In service of God and Country
Joseph
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:weMXh.8318$3P3.100@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Joseph wrote:
>> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned
>> up in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat belts
>> off in time!
>
> Now how the hell, do you know that?? If they'd been unbuckled they'd have
> likely been killed instantly when their head hit the windshield or
> something.
>
> Anyway, i bet they were doing 90 mph and that's the real problem.

 

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Q9MXh.8317$3P3.2670@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> GK wrote:
>
>>>
>> There is no corruption involved here. This is normal practice in all
>> states, all day long. Sometimes even those fast moving State Troopers
>> can't get out of the way of us ordinary civilians just driving to work.
>> I say better to have driving on limited access highways restricted to
>> drivers that can pass a more rigid driving test. As it is now, any clown
>> can get on a high speed road and cause all sorts of problems to others.
>> Should be a driving test with mandatory high speed driving required. Blow
>> your doors off, you criminal slow speed lugtard coddler.
>>
>> G
>
> You know, of course, that you're a psychopath. How many kids do you
> gleefully kill by your speeding each week?

Emotionally changed Germans, politicized the Medical Treatment and the their
judgment, advising forced treatment with Mind Control Drugs in the
Sanitariums of Nazi Germany. A lot of people the opposed Hitler just
disappeared in the Sanitariums of Nazi Germany. How many people do you kill
each hour by your Neo Nazism, including four years olds forced to take
dangerous Mind Control Drugs? And even though they will not all get cancer,
in Texas they all must be forced to take a Vaccine, a Vaccine that causes
Iatrogenic Illnesses in some, and even can cause Iatrogenic Deaths in some,
for a Vaccine for which most so not need, because they will never get
cancer.

With mint Doctors who tell me don't take the Psychotropic Drugs because they
are killing you, and having even had a Court order to order the Local Police
and Local Hospitals not to force treat me, because other Doctors said that
the Medications, were making me more dysfunctional, and were killing me,
everywhere that I go, people in the Public, and Police Officers, and Courts,
and Doctors, will not stop arrogantly saying You know, of course, that
you're a psychopath, and they force treat me as i fight each time for my
life, and the Drugs nearly kill me each time, till other Doctors step in and
stop the Neo Nazi Abuse! Why do you want to be a Neo Nazi, it is japanning
to tens of thousands of Americans, many of them just commit suicide, or get
weapons and kill people like in the VA tech School Shooting, and many other
School shootings. It is the treatment and the Drugs causing the school
shootings, why do you want to be a psychopath, and make more people kill
children in our Schools? Andrea Yates is just another one victimized by the
Drugs, the Police State, the Neo Nazi Courts, and the brainwashed Public.
See my Blog for links to many other innocent victims, forced treated with
dangerous Mind Control Drugs that only caused Iatrogenic Illnesses and
Iatrogenic Deaths.

In service of God and Country

Joseph

 

<Joseph> wrote in message
newsvudnSWjqIQnRbLbnZ2dnUVZ_ualnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:Q9MXh.8317$3P3.2670@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> GK wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> There is no corruption involved here. This is normal practice in all
>>> states, all day long. Sometimes even those fast moving State Troopers
>>> can't get out of the way of us ordinary civilians just driving to work.
>>> I say better to have driving on limited access highways restricted to
>>> drivers that can pass a more rigid driving test. As it is now, any clown
>>> can get on a high speed road and cause all sorts of problems to others.
>>> Should be a driving test with mandatory high speed driving required.
>>> Blow your doors off, you criminal slow speed lugtard coddler.
>>>
>>> G
>>
>> You know, of course, that you're a psychopath. How many kids do you
>> gleefully kill by your speeding each week?
>
> Emotionally changed Germans, politicized the Medical Treatment and the
> their judgment, advising forced treatment with Mind Control Drugs in the
> Sanitariums of Nazi Germany. A lot of people the opposed Hitler just
> disappeared in the Sanitariums of Nazi Germany. How many people do you
> kill each hour by your Neo Nazism, including four years olds forced to
> take dangerous Mind Control Drugs? And even though they will not all get
> cancer, in Texas they all must be forced to take a Vaccine, a Vaccine that
> causes Iatrogenic Illnesses in some, and even can cause Iatrogenic Deaths
> in some, for a Vaccine for which most so not need, because they will never
> get cancer.
>
> With mint Doctors who tell me don't take the Psychotropic Drugs because
> they are killing you, and having even had a Court order to order the Local
> Police and Local Hospitals not to force treat me, because other Doctors
> said that the Medications, were making me more dysfunctional, and were
> killing me, everywhere that I go, people in the Public, and Police
> Officers, and Courts, and Doctors, will not stop arrogantly saying You
> know, of course, that you're a psychopath, and they force treat me as i
> fight each time for my life, and the Drugs nearly kill me each time, till
> other Doctors step in and stop the Neo Nazi Abuse! Why do you want to be a
> Neo Nazi, it is japanning to tens of thousands of Americans, many of them
> just commit suicide, or get weapons and kill people like in the VA tech
> School Shooting, and many other School shootings. It is the treatment and
> the Drugs causing the school shootings, why do you want to be a
> psychopath, and make more people kill children in our Schools? Andrea
> Yates is just another one victimized by the Drugs, the Police State, the
> Neo Nazi Courts, and the brainwashed Public. See my Blog for links to many
> other innocent victims, forced treated with dangerous Mind Control Drugs
> that only caused Iatrogenic Illnesses and Iatrogenic Deaths.
>
> In service of God and Country
>
> Joseph

George W Bush said that the Terrorist keep attacking us, because that they
hate Liberty, and every time that I point out that these US Laws take away
our Liberty, and that the letter of the Law kills, the Domestic enemies of
our rights, become Terrorists that attack, and arrogantly try to change my
mind with Dangerous Mind Drugs, just because they hate Liberty!


In service of God and Country

Joseph

 

[Fred G. Mackey]

Joseph wrote:
> My uncle was a State trooper, and the rescuers were trying to cut the
> seat belts while the cars were burning, they got the children out that
> were not wearing belts, but the adults burned up.
>
> It happens a lot!

Define "a lot".

Can you come up with even ONE documented case of this?

There are thousands of documented cases where seatbelts save lives and
where not wearing seatbelts has caused greater injury and death.

I disagree with seatbelt laws though. If you REALLY think that wearing
one will kill you, then I say let Darwin do his work.

 

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

Joseph wrote:

> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:weMXh.8318$3P3.100@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Joseph wrote:
>>> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that
>>> burned up in two different cars, just because they could not get the
>>> seat belts off in time!
>>
>> Now how the hell, do you know that?? If they'd been unbuckled they'd
>> have likely been killed instantly when their head hit the windshield
>> or something.
>>
>> Anyway, i bet they were doing 90 mph and that's the real problem.
>

> My uncle was a State trooper, and the rescuers were trying to cut the
> seat belts while the cars were burning, they got the children out that
> were not wearing belts, but the adults burned up.
>
> It happens a lot!
>
> In service of God and Country
> Joseph

I know it happens. I carry a sharp knife in my pocket while driving just
in case i have a crash and the belt jams. But you didn't address my
point that if they hadn't been buckled they likely would have been
killed by the collision itself.

 

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:E3TXh.3839$Ut6.2499@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Joseph wrote:
>
>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:weMXh.8318$3P3.100@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> Joseph wrote:
>>>> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned
>>>> up in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat
>>>> belts off in time!
>>>
>>> Now how the hell, do you know that?? If they'd been unbuckled they'd
>>> have likely been killed instantly when their head hit the windshield or
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Anyway, i bet they were doing 90 mph and that's the real problem.
>>
>
> > My uncle was a State trooper, and the rescuers were trying to cut the
> > seat belts while the cars were burning, they got the children out that
> > were not wearing belts, but the adults burned up.
> >
> > It happens a lot!
> >
> > In service of God and Country
> > Joseph
>
> I know it happens. I carry a sharp knife in my pocket while driving just
> in case i have a crash and the belt jams. But you didn't address my point
> that if they hadn't been buckled they likely would have been killed by the
> collision itself.

Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when the
driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out from a
heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was the only
one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went straight through
the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the Bridge, and turned
up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just came crawling out because
they were not wearing seat belts. But the driver died because we could not
get the seat belt lose, so that we could get him out an give him first aid
for the hearth attack!

In another crash, the only one out of five that survived was not wearing a
seat belt, and was thrown completely from the car as it was being crushed
against an Oak Tree at 90 some miles per hour, the four passengers wearing
seat belts, were crushed with the car, it was a real mess cleaning it up!

I was a pal bearer at my best friends funeral, he was wearing a seat belt
and the driver was not, the driver lived as she was thrown from the VW car,
but his neck was broke from the crushed roof of the car!

Do you need more documented incidents?

Or are you missing my point so you can keep kill people by allowing forced
treatment with dangerous mind control drugs?

In service of God and Country

 

[Gogarty]

In article <DIednfJ9LPPNka3bnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com>, Joseph says...
>

>
>Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when the
>driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out from a
>heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was the only
>one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went straight through
>the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the Bridge, and turned
>up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just came crawling out because
>they were not wearing seat belts. But the driver died because we could not
>get the seat belt lose, so that we could get him out an give him first aid
>for the hearth attack!
>
(Snip)

The only gamblers who win are those who know and respect the odds. All others
are losers. I am here today BECAUSE I was wearing a seat belt. It was long
before seat belts were required and was a lap belt only. But thanks to that
the steering wheel ended up in my shirt pocket and not in my spine. I still
have a pice of the steering wheel ornament in my desk drawer.

 

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

Gogarty wrote:
> In article <DIednfJ9LPPNka3bnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com>, Joseph says...
>
>> Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when the
>> driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out from a
>> heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was the only
>> one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went straight through
>> the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the Bridge, and turned
>> up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just came crawling out because
>> they were not wearing seat belts. But the driver died because we could not
>> get the seat belt lose, so that we could get him out an give him first aid
>> for the hearth attack!
>>
> (Snip)
>
> The only gamblers who win are those who know and respect the odds. All others
> are losers. I am here today BECAUSE I was wearing a seat belt. It was long
> before seat belts were required and was a lap belt only. But thanks to that
> the steering wheel ended up in my shirt pocket and not in my spine. I still
> have a pice of the steering wheel ornament in my desk drawer.
>

Absolutely. Joseph can't understand that belts do some harm but they do
a lot more good. All he talks about is the bad side of seat belts.

 

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Ai7Yh.4047$Ut6.769@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Gogarty wrote:
>> In article <DIednfJ9LPPNka3bnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com>, Joseph says...
>>
>>> Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when
>>> the driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out
>>> from a heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was
>>> the only one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went
>>> straight through the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the
>>> Bridge, and turned up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just
>>> came crawling out because they were not wearing seat belts. But the
>>> driver died because we could not get the seat belt lose, so that we
>>> could get him out an give him first aid for the hearth attack!
>>>
>> (Snip)
>>
>> The only gamblers who win are those who know and respect the odds. All
>> others are losers. I am here today BECAUSE I was wearing a seat belt. It
>> was long before seat belts were required and was a lap belt only. But
>> thanks to that the steering wheel ended up in my shirt pocket and not in
>> my spine. I still have a pice of the steering wheel ornament in my desk
>> drawer.
>>
>
> Absolutely. Joseph can't understand that belts do some harm but they do a
> lot more good. All he talks about is the bad side of seat belts.

Since I had already posted this in the same thread where does that put your
unjustifiable response? Who do you think you are to deliberately misjudge
people like that?

As an Engineer with a truck loaded with the right tools for the Job, I had
worked for some of the biggest auto salvage businesses in the US, and have
been on a lot of wrecker calls, and had to remove the trapped and the dead
bodies from the cars before we could haul them. And because I had the right
tools, the Sheriffs would often call me to use hydraulic jacks, and cutting
torches, to get either trapped people out, or to get dead bodies out of
crushed vehicles so that they could be hauled off.

So I have seen both the results of where seat belts at times saves someone,
and where it kills someone, I have seen at times where drugs saves someone,
and I have at times where they either disable and or kill someone. Who has
the right to force things on us that at times disables or kills the
innocent?

In service of God and Country

Joseph

Ps I have also seen where an Officers gun at times rightly saves someone by
killing a guilty dangerous person, and I have seen where at time they kill
someone who was no threat, and was innocent. And I have also seen where a
Citizen's gun at times rightly saves someone by killing a guilty dangerous
person, and I have seen where at time they kill someone who was no threat,
and was innocent. But more often, I have also seen too often where Citizens
had no gun to defend themselves, and were killed by the gun of a guilty
dangerous person,

Why not let all the just be able to defend themselves? Who want to destroy
this Liberty? President George W Bush said it is terrorists that hate
Liberty that keep attacking us! Has the News Media been paid by the
Terrorists and Communists to brainwash people to hate Liberty and keep
attacking us?

 

[Shawn Hirn]

In article <L_6dndOK67Mzo7LbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com>, <Joseph>
wrote:

> That is funny, I know of six people off the top of my head, that burned up
> in two different cars, just because they could not get the seat belts off in
> time! So by the Law, they were ordered to do what killed them!

Can you say "bull ****?" Yes, I knew you could.

 

[Shawn Hirn]

In article <Y6qdnWyqMoL_Nq3bnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@bway.net>,
Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:

> In article <DIednfJ9LPPNka3bnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com>, Joseph says...
> >
>
> >
> >Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when the
> >driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out from a
> >heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was the only
> >one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went straight through
> >the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the Bridge, and turned
> >up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just came crawling out because
> >they were not wearing seat belts. But the driver died because we could not
> >get the seat belt lose, so that we could get him out an give him first aid
> >for the hearth attack!
> >
> (Snip)
>
> The only gamblers who win are those who know and respect the odds. All others
> are losers. I am here today BECAUSE I was wearing a seat belt.

Yup. Seat belts are no guarantee of surviving an auto accident, but the
vast majority of auto injuries and deaths happen because of a failure to
wear seat belts, such as the case where my sister got ran off a highway,
slammed into a utility pole and she walked away with a minor burn where
her face hit the airbag. Had she not been wearing a seat belt, she's
probably have perished in that accident. We also see that example loud
and clear with Governor Corzine.

So anyone who's a betting man bets the safe odds, which is to wear a
seat belt in a moving vehicle. Of course, there are times when a seat
belt causes more harm then it saves, but those are in the minority.

 

[Shawn Hirn]

In article <asudnXQkvqkMgqzbnZ2dnUVZ_oKnnZ2d@comcast.com>, <Joseph>
wrote:

> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:Ai7Yh.4047$Ut6.769@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Gogarty wrote:
> >> In article <DIednfJ9LPPNka3bnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com>, Joseph says...
> >>
> >>> Not always true, I was on the way to a Detroit Tigers Ball game, when
> >>> the driver of a Station wagon with his wife and nine kids, passed out
> >>> from a heat attack while turning onto a bridge off the exit ramp. He was
> >>> the only one wearing a seat belt, and the car kept turning and went
> >>> straight through the overpass sidewalk and rail and fell 70 feet off the
> >>> Bridge, and turned up side down, no one was seriously hurt, they just
> >>> came crawling out because they were not wearing seat belts. But the
> >>> driver died because we could not get the seat belt lose, so that we
> >>> could get him out an give him first aid for the hearth attack!
> >>>
> >> (Snip)
> >>
> >> The only gamblers who win are those who know and respect the odds. All
> >> others are losers. I am here today BECAUSE I was wearing a seat belt. It
> >> was long before seat belts were required and was a lap belt only. But
> >> thanks to that the steering wheel ended up in my shirt pocket and not in
> >> my spine. I still have a pice of the steering wheel ornament in my desk
> >> drawer.
> >>
> >
> > Absolutely. Joseph can't understand that belts do some harm but they do a
> > lot more good. All he talks about is the bad side of seat belts.
>
> Since I had already posted this in the same thread where does that put your
> unjustifiable response? Who do you think you are to deliberately misjudge
> people like that?
>
> As an Engineer with a truck loaded with the right tools for the Job, I had
> worked for some of the biggest auto salvage businesses in the US, and have
> been on a lot of wrecker calls, and had to remove the trapped and the dead
> bodies from the cars before we could haul them. And because I had the right
> tools, the Sheriffs would often call me to use hydraulic jacks, and cutting
> torches, to get either trapped people out, or to get dead bodies out of
> crushed vehicles so that they could be hauled off.

Ah yes, so that makes you an expert who can reach the ridiculous
conclusion that seat belts cause more harm than good?

 

[Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDE]

Joseph wrote:

>>
>> Absolutely. Joseph can't understand that belts do some harm but they
>> do a lot more good. All he talks about is the bad side of seat belts.
>
> Since I had already posted this in the same thread where does that put
> your unjustifiable response? Who do you think you are to deliberately
> misjudge people like that?
>

I'm not misjudging you. I'm correctly judging you. You're another of
these republican morons who see only one side of an issue. No wonder
you don't have any friends.