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David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnetnone.net> wrote in
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> Jim Alder wrote:
>> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin Cunningham wrote:
>>>> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hatemonger Hopeless Harry <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Creationist cretin Huckabee bristles at creationism query
>>>>>
>>>>>> Huckabee bristles at creationism query
>>>>>> By LIZ SIDOTI and LIBBY QUAID
>>>>>> Associated Press Writers
>>>>>> Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist
>>>>>> preacher who has surged in Iowa with evangelical Christian support,
>>>>>> bristled Tuesday when asked if creationism should be taught in public
>>>>>> schools. Huckabee - who raised his hand at a debate last May when asked
>>>>>> which candidates disbelieved the theory of evolution - asked this time
why
>>>>>> there is such a fascination with his beliefs. "I believe God created
the
>>>>>> heavens and the Earth," he said at a news conference with Iowa pastors
who
>>>>>> murmured, "Amen." "I wasn't there when he did it, so how he did it, I
don't
>>>>>> know," Huckabee said.
>>>>> At which point Hopeless Harry chose to cut off his "reportage" lest
you
>>>>> hear this borderline brilliant statement;
>>>>>
>>>>> "That's an irrelevant question to ask me - I'm happy to answer what I
>>>>> believe, but what I believe is not what's going to be taught in 50
different
>>>>> states," Huckabee said. "Education is a state function. The more state
it
>>>>> is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are."
>>>>>
>>>>> Which he [Harry} followed up with his typical brilliant response,
worthy
>>>>> of a bored and spoiled valley girl;
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>> So your (I think he meant "you're") willing to say that we should
>>>> edjamacate (ironically, he's trying to sound dumber than he is here, I
>>>> think!) our children in our stupidity, right?
>>
>> Certainly not in YOUR stupidity, Kevin.
>>
>>>> Huckabee, soon to be the repug nominee is to (I think he meant "too")
>>>> stupid to understand evolution so he panders to conservatives
>>>> by putting evolution down, then when asked what he would do
>>>> he gets up on his hind legs and panders some more by insisting
>>>> that anything can and should be taught. So if you think algebra
>>>> is wrong you can teach Roman math?????
>>>>
>>>> If evolution is a lie then don't teach it. If its the truth the teach
the
>>>> heck out of it. You got a problem with that? Huckabee does.
>>> The problem is that no one has ever "proven" that evolution is the truth.
In
>>> fact, I challenge you to provide one example of a simple life form
"evolving"
>>> into a more complex life form.
>>
>> Intermediate fossils include
>> Australopithecus afarensis, from 3.9 to 3.0 million years ago (Mya).
Its
>> skull is similar to a chimpanzee's, but with more humanlike teeth. Most
>> (possibly all) creationists would call this an ape, but it was bipedal.
>> Australopithecus africanus (3 to 2 Mya); its brain size, 420-500 cc,
was
>> slightly larger than A. afarensis, and its teeth yet more humanlike.
>> Homo habilis (2.4 to 1.5 Mya), which is similar to
australopithecines,
>> but which used tools and had a larger brain (650-cc average) and less
>> projecting face.
>> Homo erectus (1.8 to 0.3 Mya); brain size averaged about 900 cc in
early
>> H. erectus and 1,100 cc in later ones. (Modern human brains average 1,350
cc.)
>> A Pleistocene Homo sapiens which was "morphologically and
>> chronologically intermediate between archaic African fossils and later
>> anatomically modern Late Pleistocene humans" (White et al. 2003, 742).
>> A hominid combining features of, and possibly ancestral to,
Neanderthals
>> and modern humans (Bermudez de Castro et al. 1997).
>> And there are fossils intermediate between these (Foley 1996-2004).
>
> How does this show a simple life form evolving into a more complex life
form?
Australopithecus afarensis IS simpler than the later forms. Were you
hoping for fossilized evidence of single celled organisms, knowing such things
don't exist? That's a little disingenuous, don't you think? The above clearly
illustrates an evolutionary process.
--
President Bush was so buoyed by the warm reception he was given in Albania
that he immediately gave all 3 million Albanians American citizenship,
provided they learn Spanish. - Ann Coulter
news:crudneIORucrtMranZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> Jim Alder wrote:
>> David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin Cunningham wrote:
>>>> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hatemonger Hopeless Harry <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Creationist cretin Huckabee bristles at creationism query
>>>>>
>>>>>> Huckabee bristles at creationism query
>>>>>> By LIZ SIDOTI and LIBBY QUAID
>>>>>> Associated Press Writers
>>>>>> Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist
>>>>>> preacher who has surged in Iowa with evangelical Christian support,
>>>>>> bristled Tuesday when asked if creationism should be taught in public
>>>>>> schools. Huckabee - who raised his hand at a debate last May when asked
>>>>>> which candidates disbelieved the theory of evolution - asked this time
why
>>>>>> there is such a fascination with his beliefs. "I believe God created
the
>>>>>> heavens and the Earth," he said at a news conference with Iowa pastors
who
>>>>>> murmured, "Amen." "I wasn't there when he did it, so how he did it, I
don't
>>>>>> know," Huckabee said.
>>>>> At which point Hopeless Harry chose to cut off his "reportage" lest
you
>>>>> hear this borderline brilliant statement;
>>>>>
>>>>> "That's an irrelevant question to ask me - I'm happy to answer what I
>>>>> believe, but what I believe is not what's going to be taught in 50
different
>>>>> states," Huckabee said. "Education is a state function. The more state
it
>>>>> is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are."
>>>>>
>>>>> Which he [Harry} followed up with his typical brilliant response,
worthy
>>>>> of a bored and spoiled valley girl;
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>> So your (I think he meant "you're") willing to say that we should
>>>> edjamacate (ironically, he's trying to sound dumber than he is here, I
>>>> think!) our children in our stupidity, right?
>>
>> Certainly not in YOUR stupidity, Kevin.
>>
>>>> Huckabee, soon to be the repug nominee is to (I think he meant "too")
>>>> stupid to understand evolution so he panders to conservatives
>>>> by putting evolution down, then when asked what he would do
>>>> he gets up on his hind legs and panders some more by insisting
>>>> that anything can and should be taught. So if you think algebra
>>>> is wrong you can teach Roman math?????
>>>>
>>>> If evolution is a lie then don't teach it. If its the truth the teach
the
>>>> heck out of it. You got a problem with that? Huckabee does.
>>> The problem is that no one has ever "proven" that evolution is the truth.
In
>>> fact, I challenge you to provide one example of a simple life form
"evolving"
>>> into a more complex life form.
>>
>> Intermediate fossils include
>> Australopithecus afarensis, from 3.9 to 3.0 million years ago (Mya).
Its
>> skull is similar to a chimpanzee's, but with more humanlike teeth. Most
>> (possibly all) creationists would call this an ape, but it was bipedal.
>> Australopithecus africanus (3 to 2 Mya); its brain size, 420-500 cc,
was
>> slightly larger than A. afarensis, and its teeth yet more humanlike.
>> Homo habilis (2.4 to 1.5 Mya), which is similar to
australopithecines,
>> but which used tools and had a larger brain (650-cc average) and less
>> projecting face.
>> Homo erectus (1.8 to 0.3 Mya); brain size averaged about 900 cc in
early
>> H. erectus and 1,100 cc in later ones. (Modern human brains average 1,350
cc.)
>> A Pleistocene Homo sapiens which was "morphologically and
>> chronologically intermediate between archaic African fossils and later
>> anatomically modern Late Pleistocene humans" (White et al. 2003, 742).
>> A hominid combining features of, and possibly ancestral to,
Neanderthals
>> and modern humans (Bermudez de Castro et al. 1997).
>> And there are fossils intermediate between these (Foley 1996-2004).
>
> How does this show a simple life form evolving into a more complex life
form?
Australopithecus afarensis IS simpler than the later forms. Were you
hoping for fossilized evidence of single celled organisms, knowing such things
don't exist? That's a little disingenuous, don't you think? The above clearly
illustrates an evolutionary process.
--
President Bush was so buoyed by the warm reception he was given in Albania
that he immediately gave all 3 million Albanians American citizenship,
provided they learn Spanish. - Ann Coulter