Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:01:40 GMT, Cory Bhreckan
<coryvreckan@NO_SPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

>Captain Compassion wrote:
>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>> news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>
>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>>
>>> Good...
>>>
>>> Next?
>>>
>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>
>That's retarded. Amputations are legal, can you document any legally
>mandatory amputations?

Bush's brain?

WB Yeats
 
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
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> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>
>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>
>>> By Mike Dorning
>>> Washington Bureau
>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>
>>
>>Good...
>>
>>Next?
>>
> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>
> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret Sanger
> award.
>
Prove it. We have had legal abortions for decades and our nation hasn't
suffered at all. Show us the problems we are supposed to have. When an
abortion meant some one with a coat hanger woman died for their right to
choose to be pregnant.

You repugs showed your cowardice and political sense. When you owned both
houses of congress you didn't do a thing to out law abortion. You wanted
abortion as a way to raise funds. How cynical is that?
 
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:56:20 -0700, "Bokonon"
> <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>>news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>Good...
>>>>
>>>>Next?
>>>>
>>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>
>>Horse ****.
>
> Who exactly would this benefit? Certainly not middle class educated
> white women. Most can afford the several hundred dollar cost of a
> first trimester abortion besides they are not having all that many
> babies anyway. This is targeted at the poor and the brown. If you can
> justify high taxes on cigarettes and maybe a fat tax because of high
> medical costs surely ther can be justification for terminating high
> cost babies if the state has to pay the freight.
>
Why didn't you take care of this when you controlled congress???? To
gutless? Or did the anti-abortion fight raise money for the repugs?
 
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
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> On 19 Jul 2007 02:31:15 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>
>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>news:1mdt93h2viogluputjrmmifjsb5ocrtpbv@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2007 21:03:17 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>>news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Next?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>>>>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's a GOOD idea, Premptive Abortions... I like it, just think if we
>>>>had of had that around when that evil old bitch babs was whelping
>>little
>>>>georgie ????
>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret
>>Sanger
>>>>> award.
>>>>
>>>>HEY THANKS !!!... <bows ... blows kisses>
>>>>
>>>>err... who TF is Margaret Sanger????
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." -- Margaret
>>>>> Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control
>>>>
>>>>Oh THAT Margaret Sanger the "Eugenics" nutball, hasn't she been dead
>>for
>>>>50 years or something...
>>>>
>>>>But WTF has abortion to do with "Birth Control"? except that the
>>>>quickest way to REDUCE abortions is to have MORE Birth Control... a
>>>>simple logical relationship that (of course) flies totally over the
>>>>heads of you ****ing lowIQ reichtard morons..
>>>>
>>>>btw, Sanger was OPPOSED to abortion, you incredible moron...
>>>>
>>> Margaret Higgins Sanger (September 14, 1879 ?ESeptember 6, 1966) was
>>> an American birth control activist, an advocate of negative eugenics,
>>> and the founder of the American Birth Control League (which eventually
>>> became Planned Parenthood).
>>>
>>
>>"eventually" ????
>>
>>She died 41 years ago you ****ing idiot, abortion was NOT legal in 1966
>>
>>> And Planned Parenthood opposes abortion?
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
>>
>>Sanger's 1938 autobiography notes her 1916 opposition to abortion as the
>>taking of life:
>>"To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the
>>wrong
>>way?\no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that
>>contraception was the
>>better way, the safer way?\it took a little time, a little trouble, but
>>was well worth while
>>in the long run, because life had not yet begun."
>>
> She would be called a right wing wacko today. Do you agree with her?
>
>>> Where do you want your award sent?
>>
>>Do you enjoy looking stupid sparky? You must, since you do it so often.
>>
> Do you see any real difference between forced abortion and forced
> contraception? I don't.
>
You just got beat like a brass gong.
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Have you actually read Sanger?
>

Rob, buddy, your asking a right winger if they ever read a book. Maybe you
need some sleep.

>
> "Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com...
>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>> >news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>> >
>> >> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>> >>
>> >> By Mike Dorning
>> >> Washington Bureau
>> >> Published July 18, 2007
>> >>
>> >> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>> >> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Good...
>> >
>> >Next?
>> >
>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>
>> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret Sanger
>> award.
>>
>> "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." -- Margaret
>> Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>>
>> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>>
>> Joseph R. Darancette
>> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
>
>
 
"Tom Gardner" <tom(nospam)@ohiobrush.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9971970E8AAC2fubar@63.218.45.254...
>> Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>> news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>
>>> By Mike Dorning
>>> Washington Bureau
>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>
>>
>> Good...
>>
>> Next?
>
> So, you're saying that people that oppose abortion now have to pay for
> other people's abortions through insurance premiums? Maybe you should pay
> for other people's pilgrimages to the Holy Land or some other thing that
> you oppose with every fiber of your being.

It's also true that a doctor or pharmacist must provide medical services
that they don't like. If a pharmacist refuses to care the Plan B pill their
license can be revoked.

They both know as a part of their training what is expected of them, they
can't change their training or the oath they took later.
 
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:08:41 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com...
>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>
>>> By Mike Dorning
>>> Washington Bureau
>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>
>>Fine.
>>
>>Most insurance plans now cover Viagra -- what's your problem with
>>insurance
>>plans covering medical procedures -- I thought that's what insurance was
>>for.
>>
> Got no problem with any of that. But most insurance plans are private.
> I'm not really stressed out about abortion. I don't care if women D&C
> and aspirate their private parts until they perforate. It's their
> business. Lets say this happens.
>
> Joe S. finally lays off the booze long enough to knock up Mrs. S. She
> goes into see her health care provider and gets a bunch of tests. A
> week later an insurance adjuster from the Health care provider calls
> and says the results are in on your pregnancy test and we are sorry to
> say that your child is retarded and will need special care for his
> entire life at a cost of millions of dollars. He also points out that
> the insurance company provides free abortions to all women subscribers
> and recommends that you take this option. Mrs. S., in tears, explains
> to the adjuster that she can't do that because the baby is the late
> life love child of Joe and her. The adjuster then points out that on
> page 43, Paragraph 4, in very small print, that the company by
> allowing free abortion on demand takes no responsibility for children
> taken to term against the recommendation of the company and further
> states that violation of page 43 paragraph 4 may be cause for
> termination of the policy.
>
> Do you think that the government is kinder then the private insurers
> who have at some responsibility to their customers? When a poor woman
> is forced with the prospect of either having an abortion or loosing
> welfare is this not forced abortion?
>
> There is room for lots of mischief here.

When have private insurance companies ever done the right thing? Do you
really think that your insurance provider will do the right thing when your
injured? Are you really that dumb?
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:27:28 GMT, "Kevin Cunningham"
<smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com...
>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>
>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Good...
>>>
>>>Next?
>>>
>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>
>> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret Sanger
>> award.
>>
>Prove it. We have had legal abortions for decades and our nation hasn't
>suffered at all. Show us the problems we are supposed to have. When an
>abortion meant some one with a coat hanger woman died for their right to
>choose to be pregnant.
>
>You repugs showed your cowardice and political sense. When you owned both
>houses of congress you didn't do a thing to out law abortion. You wanted
>abortion as a way to raise funds. How cynical is that?
>
What's your problem. The Captain has never came out against abortion.
He don't care what you do with your body and your money. The captain
does have a problem with state sponsored abortion which is nothing
more than de facto eugenics.

How long before there are mobile abortion vans roaming through the
brown side of town.


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:28:54 GMT, "Kevin Cunningham"
<smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:58et93da4bkp3l9rjv9vuurpo3fmr1lv6k@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:08:41 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com...
>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>
>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>
>>>Fine.
>>>
>>>Most insurance plans now cover Viagra -- what's your problem with
>>>insurance
>>>plans covering medical procedures -- I thought that's what insurance was
>>>for.
>>>
>> Got no problem with any of that. But most insurance plans are private.
>> I'm not really stressed out about abortion. I don't care if women D&C
>> and aspirate their private parts until they perforate. It's their
>> business. Lets say this happens.
>>
>> Joe S. finally lays off the booze long enough to knock up Mrs. S. She
>> goes into see her health care provider and gets a bunch of tests. A
>> week later an insurance adjuster from the Health care provider calls
>> and says the results are in on your pregnancy test and we are sorry to
>> say that your child is retarded and will need special care for his
>> entire life at a cost of millions of dollars. He also points out that
>> the insurance company provides free abortions to all women subscribers
>> and recommends that you take this option. Mrs. S., in tears, explains
>> to the adjuster that she can't do that because the baby is the late
>> life love child of Joe and her. The adjuster then points out that on
>> page 43, Paragraph 4, in very small print, that the company by
>> allowing free abortion on demand takes no responsibility for children
>> taken to term against the recommendation of the company and further
>> states that violation of page 43 paragraph 4 may be cause for
>> termination of the policy.
>>
>> Do you think that the government is kinder then the private insurers
>> who have at some responsibility to their customers? When a poor woman
>> is forced with the prospect of either having an abortion or loosing
>> welfare is this not forced abortion?
>>
>> There is room for lots of mischief here.
>
>When have private insurance companies ever done the right thing? Do you
>really think that your insurance provider will do the right thing when your
>injured? Are you really that dumb?
>
I certainly don't expect anything from a private insurance company.
The basic premise behind insurance is to collect as much as possible
from subscribers while paying out as little as possible in subscriber
claims. I've been self insured most of my adult life.

Now a question for you. Do you trust the government to do the right
thing in matters like this?




--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On 19 Jul 2007 02:31:15 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:

>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>news:1mdt93h2viogluputjrmmifjsb5ocrtpbv@4ax.com:
>
>> On 18 Jul 2007 21:03:17 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Good...
>>>>>
>>>>>Next?
>>>>>
>>>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>>>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>>>
>>>
>>>That's a GOOD idea, Premptive Abortions... I like it, just think if we
>>>had of had that around when that evil old bitch babs was whelping
>little
>>>georgie ????
>>>
>>>> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret
>Sanger
>>>> award.
>>>
>>>HEY THANKS !!!... <bows ... blows kisses>
>>>
>>>err... who TF is Margaret Sanger????
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." -- Margaret
>>>> Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control
>>>
>>>Oh THAT Margaret Sanger the "Eugenics" nutball, hasn't she been dead
>for
>>>50 years or something...
>>>
>>>But WTF has abortion to do with "Birth Control"? except that the
>>>quickest way to REDUCE abortions is to have MORE Birth Control... a
>>>simple logical relationship that (of course) flies totally over the
>>>heads of you ****ing lowIQ reichtard morons..
>>>
>>>btw, Sanger was OPPOSED to abortion, you incredible moron...
>>>
>> Margaret Higgins Sanger (September 14, 1879 ?ESeptember 6, 1966) was
>> an American birth control activist, an advocate of negative eugenics,
>> and the founder of the American Birth Control League (which eventually
>> became Planned Parenthood).
>>
>
>"eventually" ????
>
>She died 41 years ago you ****ing idiot, abortion was NOT legal in 1966
>
>> And Planned Parenthood opposes abortion?
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
>
>Sanger's 1938 autobiography notes her 1916 opposition to abortion as the taking of life:
>"To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong
>way?\no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the
>better way, the safer way?\it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while
>in the long run, because life had not yet begun."
>
>> Where do you want your award sent?
>
>Do you enjoy looking stupid sparky? You must, since you do it so often.
>
>Gonzo Funeral Watch: 128 days 22 hours 34 minutes and counting

It's not the abortion stupid people it's the eugenics.

"The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless
ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose
religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their
numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of
the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of
society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all
thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped."

-- Margaret Sanger. Speech quoted in Birth Control: What It Is, How It
Works, What It Will Do. The Proceedings of the First American Birth
Control Conference . Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November
11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review , Gothic Press,
pages 172 and 174.

--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:08:41 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
wrote:

>
>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com...
>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>
>> By Mike Dorning
>> Washington Bureau
>> Published July 18, 2007
>>
>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>
>Fine.
>
>Most insurance plans now cover Viagra -- what's your problem with insurance
>plans covering medical procedures -- I thought that's what insurance was
>for.
>
The Chinese health care system also provides for abortion. In fact
they often insist on it.
>
>
>>
>> Speaking on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards
>> before the family planning and abortion-rights group Planned
>> Parenthood Action Fund, Edwards lauded her husband's health-care
>> proposal as "a true universal health-care plan" that would cover "all
>> reproductive health services, including pregnancy termination,"
>> referring to abortion.
>>
>> Edwards was joined by Democratic candidates Sens. Hillary Clinton
>> (D-N.Y.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) at the group's political organizing
>> conference in addressing issues at the core of the political clash
>> between cultural liberals and conservatives, including abortion
>> rights, access to contraception and sex education.
>>
>> The recent 5-4 Supreme Court decision upholding a federal ban on a
>> late-term abortion procedure that opponents call "partial-birth
>> abortion" has increased anxieties among reproductive-rights advocates
>> over the future of constitutional protections for abortion rights. All
>> three of the Democratic campaigns used the forum to signal their
>> determination to appoint Supreme Court nominees who would uphold the
>> 1973 Roe vs. Wade abortion ruling.
>>
>> Obama, who earlier gained the endorsement of Washington, D.C., Mayor
>> Adrian Fenty, offered the group a vision of equal opportunity for
>> women, tying a call for improved access to contraceptives for
>> low-income women with a call for an "updated social contract" that
>> includes paid maternity leave and expanded school hours.
>>
>> Asked about his proposal for expanded access to health insurance,
>> Obama said it would cover "reproductive-health services." Contacted
>> afterward, an Obama spokesman said that included abortions.
>>
>> Clinton has not yet released her health-care proposal. She provided a
>> bruising critique of Bush administration policies and Republican
>> conservatives on abortion rights and contraception policy.
>>
>> She criticized cuts in contraception services for low-income women,
>> lengthy delays in approving over-the-counter sales of the
>> "morning-after" contraceptive pill and redirection of sex education
>> funds to abstinence-only programs that do not include information on
>> contraceptive use or condoms toto prevent the spread of AIDS.
>>
>> --
>> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>>
>> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>>
>> Joseph R. Darancette
>> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
>

--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:28:54 GMT, "Kevin Cunningham"
<smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:58et93da4bkp3l9rjv9vuurpo3fmr1lv6k@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:08:41 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com...
>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>
>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>
>>>Fine.
>>>
>>>Most insurance plans now cover Viagra -- what's your problem with
>>>insurance
>>>plans covering medical procedures -- I thought that's what insurance was
>>>for.
>>>
>> Got no problem with any of that. But most insurance plans are private.
>> I'm not really stressed out about abortion. I don't care if women D&C
>> and aspirate their private parts until they perforate. It's their
>> business. Lets say this happens.
>>
>> Joe S. finally lays off the booze long enough to knock up Mrs. S. She
>> goes into see her health care provider and gets a bunch of tests. A
>> week later an insurance adjuster from the Health care provider calls
>> and says the results are in on your pregnancy test and we are sorry to
>> say that your child is retarded and will need special care for his
>> entire life at a cost of millions of dollars. He also points out that
>> the insurance company provides free abortions to all women subscribers
>> and recommends that you take this option. Mrs. S., in tears, explains
>> to the adjuster that she can't do that because the baby is the late
>> life love child of Joe and her. The adjuster then points out that on
>> page 43, Paragraph 4, in very small print, that the company by
>> allowing free abortion on demand takes no responsibility for children
>> taken to term against the recommendation of the company and further
>> states that violation of page 43 paragraph 4 may be cause for
>> termination of the policy.
>>
>> Do you think that the government is kinder then the private insurers
>> who have at some responsibility to their customers? When a poor woman
>> is forced with the prospect of either having an abortion or loosing
>> welfare is this not forced abortion?
>>
>> There is room for lots of mischief here.
>
>When have private insurance companies ever done the right thing? Do you
>really think that your insurance provider will do the right thing when your
>injured? Are you really that dumb?
>
Private insurance companies are for profit entities. The basic theory
for their operation is to collect as much money from their subscribers
as they can while paying out as little in subscriber claims as
possible. I expect that private insurance companies "will do the right
thing" in respects to their bottom line. As grim as this sounds this
has two distinct advantages over universal state provided medical
services. The first thing is that you are not forced to become a
subscriber to any private insurance company. Secondly, those that run
the private insurance companies lack the ability to write public law.

Why would you expect the state to "do the right thing" when your
injured? Are you really that gullible?


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:QjTni.8569$rR.6604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com...
>> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
>>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
>>>>
>>>> By Mike Dorning
>>>> Washington Bureau
>>>> Published July 18, 2007
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
>>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Good...
>>>
>>>Next?
>>>
>> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
>> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
>>
>> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret Sanger
>> award.
>>
> Prove it. We have had legal abortions for decades and our nation hasn't
> suffered at all. Show us the problems we are supposed to have. When an
> abortion meant some one with a coat hanger woman died for their right to
> choose to be pregnant.
>
> You repugs showed your cowardice and political sense. When you owned both
> houses of congress you didn't do a thing to out law abortion. You wanted
> abortion as a way to raise funds. How cynical is that?
>
The abortion debate is a meaningless fight. All you need to do is read
Blackman's rationale for picking three months for legal abortions to see
what the problem is. And if that still does not help, think about this.
Why is it okay to have an abortion within three months of pregnancy, and why
is it a double murder when you murder a woman who is in her third trimester
of pregnancy.
 
In article <46c39d3a$0$16482$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com says...
>
> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:QjTni.8569$rR.6604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
> > news:iiqs93dh2qfrqslbhuj06taamnfcf71cuq@4ax.com...
> >> On 18 Jul 2007 18:46:34 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> allegedly said in
> >>>news:7sms939anpm2qjul0l47argeisjc1ghi8d@4ax.com:
> >>>
> >>>> Democrats pledge support for wide access to abortion
> >>>>
> >>>> By Mike Dorning
> >>>> Washington Bureau
> >>>> Published July 18, 2007
> >>>>
> >>>> WASHINGTON -- Elizabeth Edwards said Tuesday that her husband's
> >>>> health-care plan would provide insurance coverage of abortion.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Good...
> >>>
> >>>Next?
> >>>
> >> Next will be mandatory abortions of high risk babies that would be a
> >> drain on the health care system or society as a whole.
> >>
> >> Congratulations Amanda you have just won this month's Margaret Sanger
> >> award.
> >>
> > Prove it. We have had legal abortions for decades and our nation hasn't
> > suffered at all. Show us the problems we are supposed to have. When an
> > abortion meant some one with a coat hanger woman died for their right to
> > choose to be pregnant.
> >
> > You repugs showed your cowardice and political sense. When you owned both
> > houses of congress you didn't do a thing to out law abortion. You wanted
> > abortion as a way to raise funds. How cynical is that?
> >
> The abortion debate is a meaningless fight. All you need to do is read
> Blackman's rationale for picking three months for legal abortions to see
> what the problem is. And if that still does not help, think about this.
> Why is it okay to have an abortion within three months of pregnancy, and why
> is it a double murder when you murder a woman who is in her third trimester
> of pregnancy.
>
>
Well law isn't science. Besides, what is inconsistent about it?

--
Hate Greed Death Bush
 

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