ECONOMY ***BOOMING***!! - 4.9% GDP GROWTH!!

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David Hartung <dhart1ng@quixnetnone.net> wrote in
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> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>> On Dec 21, 2:21 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>>> On Dec 21, 1:43 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>>>>> The bottom 40% have no wealth.
>>>>> Why is this?
>>>> What do you mean, "why is this"? I assume you're reply would be
>>>> "because it's what they deserve". Perhaps. Perhaps not. But, they
>>>> will fight, because they have nothing to lose. Watch.
>>> When you can understand why the bottom 40% have no wealth, you will
>>> have gone a long way toward developing a solution.
>>>
>>> By the way, are you aware that that the Poor and destitute in the USA
>>> are better off than most people in the world today?
>>
>> They're better off than most people in the world David. But they're
>> worse off than most poor people in the industrialized world. And they
>> know it. Because the rich in the U.S. exploit the poor. And they
>> know it. Which is why, my freind, you are in for a fight!
>>
>> The solution is simple, as I have said. Jobs and education through
>> properly regulated government programs. Anything else is propaganda
>> for the rich.
>
> Do yo have any idea why America's poor are poor?


Because Scripture requires it. Matthew 26:6-13
 
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:476C6CA9.C893873C@yahoo.co.uk:

>
>
>>
> Why is there so much redistribution by government of tax money from the
> rich to the poor?


Because the US is a civilized country, unlike the
third world hellholes you admire.
 
Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:476C6CA9.C893873C@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> > Why is there so much redistribution by government of tax money from the
> > rich to the poor?
>
> Because the US is a civilized country, unlike the
> third world hellholes you admire.
>
I don't admire any third world hellholes.

--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
 
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:476CA39A.DD286553@yahoo.co.uk:

>
>
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:476C6CA9.C893873C@yahoo.co.uk:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> > Why is there so much redistribution by government of tax money from the
>> > rich to the poor?
>>
>> Because the US is a civilized country, unlike the
>> third world hellholes you admire.
>>
> I don't admire any third world hellholes.
>


Why not? They are free of the regulations/tax burden
environmentalism/feminism/liberal-media you abhor.
 
Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:476CA39A.DD286553@yahoo.co.uk:
>
> >
> >
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:476C6CA9.C893873C@yahoo.co.uk:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> > Why is there so much redistribution by government of tax money from the
> >> > rich to the poor?
> >>
> >> Because the US is a civilized country, unlike the
> >> third world hellholes you admire.
> >>
> > I don't admire any third world hellholes.
> >
>
> Why not? They are free of the regulations/tax burden
> environmentalism/feminism/liberal-media you abhor.
>
I don't know what you are talking about.



--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Dec 21, 7:47 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 1:19 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Dec 21, 12:30 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Dec 21, 12:18 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 11:57
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Dec 21, 9:06 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 2:21 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 21, 1:43 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
> > > > >> Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > > > >>> The bottom 40% have no wealth.
> > > > >> Why is this?
> >
> > > > > What do you mean, "why is this"? I assume you're reply would be
> > > > > "because it's what they deserve". Perhaps. Perhaps not. But, they
> > > > > will fight, because they have nothing to lose. Watch.
> >
> > > > When you can understand why the bottom 40% have no wealth, you will have gone a
> > > > long way toward developing a solution.
> >
> > > > By the way, are you aware that that the Poor and destitute in the USA are better
> > > > off than most people in the world today?
> >
> > > They're better off than most people in the world David. But they're
> > > worse off than most poor people in the industrialized world. And they
> > > know it. Because the rich in the U.S. exploit the poor. And they
> > > know it. Which is why, my freind, you are in for a fight!
> >
> > Do you really think that the poor in America are ready to rebel and burn
> > cars in the streets? I doubt it, mots of them own cars and don't want
> > theirs torched. They also have cable TV, video games, DVD players, cell
> > phones and other things that people who poor in other countries wouldn't
> > dream they could own.
> >
> > > The solution is simple, as I have said. Jobs and education through
> > > properly regulated government programs. Anything else is propaganda
> > > for the rich.
> >
> > You want make work jobs and "education"? What do you think that K
> > through 12 and college/uni is? That first part is free to any American,
> > so if you didn't learn anything, who should we blame?
> >
>
> Oh sure. You can make big money with K through 12 edcuation! Bill,
> you are a complacent asshole, and you will get what you deserve.
>
I'm trying to figure out why you think that K through 12 isn't an
education but then going to college/uni is even though good grades in K
through 12 will get you scholarships and other assistance such that you
surely can go to college/uni. So that's what I'm going on about. Do you
know?




--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Dec 22, 11:58 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 7:47 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Dec 21, 1:19 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Dec 21, 12:30 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 12:18 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 11:57
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Dec 22, 11:58 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 7:47 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Dec 21, 1:19 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Dec 21, 12:30 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 12:18 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > > > > > > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 21, 11:57
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Dec 22, 11:59 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 21, 9:06 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
> > > <tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Dec 21, 2:21 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 21, 1:43 pm, David Hartung <dhart...@quixnetnone.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Jerry Kraus wrote:
> > > > > > >>> The bottom 40% have no wealth.
> > > > > > >> Why is this?
> >
> > > > > > > What do you mean, "why is this"? I assume you're reply would be
> > > > > > > "because it's what they deserve". Perhaps. Perhaps not. But, they
> > > > > > > will fight, because they have nothing to lose. Watch.
> >
> > > > > > When you can understand why the bottom 40% have no wealth, you will have gone a
> > > > > > long way toward developing a solution.
> >
> > > > > > By the way, are you aware that that the Poor and destitute in the USA are better
> > > > > > off than most people in the world today?
> >
> > > > > They're better off than most people in the world David. But they're
> > > > > worse off than most poor people in the industrialized world. And they
> > > > > know it. Because the rich in the U.S. exploit the poor. And they
> > > > > know it. Which is why, my freind, you are in for a fight!
> >
> > > > Do you really think that the poor in America are ready to rebel and burn
> > > > cars in the streets? I doubt it, mots of them own cars and don't want
> > > > theirs torched. They also have cable TV, video games, DVD players, cell
> > > > phones and other things that people who poor in other countries wouldn't
> > > > dream they could own.
> >
> > > > > The solution is simple, as I have said. Jobs and education through
> > > > > properly regulated government programs. Anything else is propaganda
> > > > > for the rich.
> >
> > > > You want make work jobs and "education"? What do you think that K
> > > > through 12 and college/uni is? That first part is free to any American,
> > > > so if you didn't learn anything, who should we blame?
> >
> > > Oh sure. You can make big money with K through 12 edcuation! Bill,
> > > you are a complacent asshole, and you will get what you deserve.
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out why you think that K through 12 isn't an
> > education but then going to college/uni is even though good grades in K
> > through 12 will get you scholarships and other assistance such that you
> > surely can go to college/uni. So that's what I'm going on about. Do you
> > know?
>
> Bill, get a brain, or go away. There are problems in this country
> that need to be dealt with. Make sure you're not one of them.
>
Of course there are problems in [the United States]. I didn't claim
otherwise. I also didn't claim they didn't need to be dealt with. I
would not, however, advocate violence to that end. Violence is what the
people of Haiti seem to regularly resort to and that hasn't stood them
well.



--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
 
Jerry Kraus wrote:
>


>
> Bill, obviously you're confused. Fair enough. But, really, things
> aren't so very complicated. Most of the people in the U.S. have
> nothing, or next to nothing. The top 1% control 40% of the nation's
> wealth.
>
I'm not seeing why it's a problem to have some people who are rich
investing their riches. If you spread all the money around evenly,
assuming you can do that without just taking it from people who already
owned it, does that encourage investment or just more spending?


> This is not good for the country, or the people. These
>
There's a difference between "wealth" and "lifestyle". "Lifestyle" might
be similar for people of very different amounts of "wealth".


> people must be compelled to share their wealth, for the benefit of
> everyone. Very simple. Everything else is propaganda and nonsense.
> Understand?
>
It sounds like Communism to me.


> My suspicion is that you are not wealthy. You don't sound bright
> enough to be wealthy.
>
So smart people are wealthy, you say? That would suggest that they are
getting money because they have something valuable to contribute not
because they are doing something wrong.


> You are in the category of those people who
> can't understand why anything should ever change, or isn't perfect the
> way it is.
>
If you've read what I've written, I advocate change often. I supported
the effort in Iraq because, for example, I wanted to see democracy there
to address the hopelessness of the region which is ultimately what
brought about 9/11. So I'm not a status quoist at all. I'm not sure I
can support taking wealth and giving it away. That's not your money,
after all. I tend to support private rights of property.


> Change can be a good thing. At the present time it is necessary.
> And, it is coming. Probably soon. The excessive concentration of
> wealth is slowing the economy and hurting the dollar to the point that
> foreign countries have to prop up our largest banks.
>
Actually, I don't see it. If you give the poor more money, they will
just spend it buying crap imported from China. How does that help the
dollar?



> So, relatively poor people like you and me will get some resources to
> work with. Maybe do something useful. What, exactly, is wrong with
> that?
>
I can't support taking from those who earned their money to give it to
those who didn't. That makes wealth pointless because what's the point
of earning something if it's just taken away?


--
"Throw me that lipstick, darling, I wanna redo my stigmata."

+-Jennifer Saunders, "Absolutely Fabulous"
 

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