Ethanol is a joke.
- Thread starter ImWithStupid
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Better believe it.
Just saw the local paper today. It listed the most expensive gas prices by country:
(These prices are by liter in USD. One gallon being approximately 3.8 liters.)
Turkey $2.81 ($10.68 per gal)
Holland $2.36 ($8.97 per gal)
Germany $2.28 ($8.66 per gal)
Belgium $2.23 ($8.47 per gal)
UK, $2.16 ($8.21 per gal)
Denmark $2.15 ($8.17 per gal)
Iceland $2.13 ($8.09 per gal)
Finland $2.11 ($8.02 per gal)
Greece $1.98 ($7.52 per gal)
The US didn't make the top 15.
These countries would be nice..
LAOS VIENTIANE $1.66
THAILAND BANGKOK $1.60
CHINA TIANJIN $1.54
CHINA SHANGHAI $1.48
RUSSIA MOSCOW $1.45
KAZAKHSTAN ALMATY $1.36
KAZAKHSTAN ATYRAU $1.35
TAJIKISTAN DUSHANBE $1.32
AZERBAIJAN BAKU $1.15
VENEZUELA CARACAS $0.14
.14 cents? Holy ****...
Old Salt
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These countries are highly subsidized. As for the 14 cents, it's just another way the dictator, oops - president, buys his people's loyalty. Oh, yeah. That's still the price per Liter, isn't it?
By the way, a good portion of the cars in Turkey are converted to run on both gas and LPG. All of the taxis are.
Old Salt
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Here's an interesting article:
Toyota's New Fuel Cell Hybrid Goes Twice the Distance of Previous Model - AOL Autos
Toyota's New Fuel Cell Hybrid Goes Twice the Distance of Previous Model - AOL Autos
ImWithStupid
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That's way better than the current range of Chevy's Equinox SUV fuel cell vehicle that only, currently has a 150 mile range per fill up. I know they are working on that before the public release for sale but it would be nice if some of these companies would work together to advance their technology.
Old Salt
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It probably goes further because it's smaller and lighter.
I agree. If two or three of the major players were to pool their knowledge and form a synicate to develop new technologies, they could probably come up with a successor to the internal combustion engine in a very short timeframe. Working by themselves, I don't think there will be any major, cost-effective breakthrough for 10-15 years. All of the auto makers would benefit and the ones who aren't involved in the development could pay a licensing fee to help defray costs.
But that's just my opinion.
I agree. If two or three of the major players were to pool their knowledge and form a synicate to develop new technologies, they could probably come up with a successor to the internal combustion engine in a very short timeframe. Working by themselves, I don't think there will be any major, cost-effective breakthrough for 10-15 years. All of the auto makers would benefit and the ones who aren't involved in the development could pay a licensing fee to help defray costs.
But that's just my opinion.
Anna Perenna
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I think you're right, which is why researchers need to look at short-term solutions as well as long-term solutions (eg - hydrogen technology).
But being a greenie, I also think there needs to be simultaneous research into the environmental impacts of biofuel production (even the land-use change causes an exorbitant amount of damage), not to mention research into the environmental impacts of coal seam methane extraction.
At the moment, in Australia, there are a lot of forums on new energy solutions and the peak oil theory, but nobody is able to pinpoint one particular energy solution that would be best for "right now". I like the idea of geothermal energy but, like hydrogen technology, I don't see it eventuating for at least 20 years.
