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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:37:20 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:41:16 +0000, metro-golden-meower wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:06:45 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:18:20 +0000, metro-golden-meower wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:02:25 GMT, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in
>>>>> news:ghb84b$qjh$1@aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "undead rovers" are not only still going on like the Energizer
>>>>>>> bunny, but there seems to be a very strange media blackout on an
>>>>>>> early discovery by Opportunity of, well:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Early in its mission at Meridiani Planum, the Opportunity Mars rover
>>>>>>> shot back a Microscopic Imager photo that included a feature shaped
>>>>>>> like a Rotini pasta. At the time, its profile sparked discussion
>>>>>>> both inside and outside of the NASA Mars Rover Exploration team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I am surprised I do not hear any more commotion about the good old
>>>>>>> 'rotini' shape from Meridiani in the early part of the mission,"
>>>>>>> Gorevan said. "We have not yet been able to duplicate that shape
>>>>>>> with the RAT or any Mössbauer Spectrometer or Alpha Particle X-ray
>>>>>>> Spectrometer contact mechanisms." But Gorevan hastened to add:
>>>>>>> "That's infinitely far from saying it is of biologic origin, but it
>>>>>>> is proving resistant to duplication."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gorevan and his team have performed no direct tests attempting to
>>>>>>> duplicate the "rotini" feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frankly I do not know how to construct such a test," Gorevan
>>>>>>> explained. "What we are doing is looking out for features that might
>>>>>>> be embryonic or very old forms of the rotini feature that might have
>>>>>>> been made with the RAT. More attention will be paid on this effort
>>>>>>> toward examination of terrestrial specimens," Gorevan noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <more and photo, click on it to enlarge:>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://freddallas.blogspot.com/2008/11/martian-rotini-anyone.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lack of information. It might be a tooth from an
>>>>>> Aldebaranian wooly newt. Or a scale from some kind of atmospheric fish
>>>>>> (the ones with the needle teeth that attach to your kneecaps and take
>>>>>> over your mind).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where the **** are Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke. They would know
>>>>>> about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> They hit the bricks, and left Bradbury holding the bag. ;(
>>>>>
>>>>> I just looked up the school of authors groomed by John Campbell , and
>>>>> as far as I can deduce, they're all gone - Heinlein, Sturgeon, van Vogt
>>>>> and del Rey, as well as Asimov and Clarke. Rest in Peace; they were
>>>>> great men, ;(
>>>>
>>>> i never really cared for van vogt, my old man had shedloads of his
>>>> books. i tried reading 'em as a kid and didn't like 'em. i read one the
>>>> other week and it was supprizingly entertaining. i may try rereading him
>>>> at some point. maybe after i work my way through the 40 or so books i
>>>> picked up on ebay over the past couple of months.
>>>
>>> Didja fish through the Cordwainer Smith collection? huh? huh?
>>
>> why, yes. yes i did. the thing i most thought was how much like the
>> island of dr. moreau with the animal/humanized people who are
>> exploited servents. that really is a sick thing to do to any animal.
>> and the complete dissregard for thier lives if they where injured or
>> sick.
>
>The long struggle for civil rights of the Underpeople is a prominent theme
>in the later stories, climactically of course in the extremely disturbing
>"The Dead Lady of Clown Town" and stepping down a bit in "The Ballad of
>Lost C'Mell".
i'll check which storys are in the book later on as its still by the
side of my bed.
as a quick observation. i guess you could draw a parallell between
black civil rights and the underpeople. i'm not sure when the storys
where writen. none the less...
>> the other storys where good, but that one in particular sticks out.
>>
>> i was pretty ****** up with a really nasty cold when i read it, so i
>> think i'm going to read it again as i think i may have missed
>> something first read.
>
>All the best ones need savored over time and many many re-readings.
i will do that as i don't think i gave it enough attention when trying
to read it and another book during the nasty cold we all had.
>The man was a (somewhat twisty) genius.
twisty is better that straight up vanilla genius iyam.
>> currently i'm reading 'mission of gravity' by hal clement which i'm
>> really enjoying.
>
>He wrote an excellent sequel to that, _Star Light_, where the Mesklinites
>are being used as explorers on another high-grav world.
from my check of his work, there seems to be three books in the
series:
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk (i use that page a **** of a lot, quite
possibly daily and several times a day at that)
Mesklinite
1. Mission of Gravity (1954)
2. Close to Critical (1964)
3. Starlight (1971)
>> oh. i also read poul andersons 'broken sword' the
>> other day. that was one of the best hi fantasy books i've ever read. i
>> can see why its in the fantasy masterworks series.
>
>I've never been much on Anderson, although _Omnivore_ was distinctly odd,
>and the one novel of his "personifications" series, about Death, _On a
>White Horse_ IIRC, wasn't too bad, about on the level or better of
>Zelazny's "Amber" series (which I'm so-so about, too).
i've read a few of his over the years with some good and some bad. the
three lions book, i think it was called, was pretty good.
i'll have a look for 'omnivore' as odd books allways sound
interesting. the though of death on a white horse just makes me think
of clint eastwood in pale rider for some reason.
as for zelazny's amber... i've read 5 or 6 of them and only just got
the one i was missing a month or so back. i'll hopefully finnish that
series some time during jan as they're easy to read books.
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:41:16 +0000, metro-golden-meower wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:06:45 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:18:20 +0000, metro-golden-meower wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:02:25 GMT, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in
>>>>> news:ghb84b$qjh$1@aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "undead rovers" are not only still going on like the Energizer
>>>>>>> bunny, but there seems to be a very strange media blackout on an
>>>>>>> early discovery by Opportunity of, well:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Early in its mission at Meridiani Planum, the Opportunity Mars rover
>>>>>>> shot back a Microscopic Imager photo that included a feature shaped
>>>>>>> like a Rotini pasta. At the time, its profile sparked discussion
>>>>>>> both inside and outside of the NASA Mars Rover Exploration team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I am surprised I do not hear any more commotion about the good old
>>>>>>> 'rotini' shape from Meridiani in the early part of the mission,"
>>>>>>> Gorevan said. "We have not yet been able to duplicate that shape
>>>>>>> with the RAT or any Mössbauer Spectrometer or Alpha Particle X-ray
>>>>>>> Spectrometer contact mechanisms." But Gorevan hastened to add:
>>>>>>> "That's infinitely far from saying it is of biologic origin, but it
>>>>>>> is proving resistant to duplication."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gorevan and his team have performed no direct tests attempting to
>>>>>>> duplicate the "rotini" feature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Frankly I do not know how to construct such a test," Gorevan
>>>>>>> explained. "What we are doing is looking out for features that might
>>>>>>> be embryonic or very old forms of the rotini feature that might have
>>>>>>> been made with the RAT. More attention will be paid on this effort
>>>>>>> toward examination of terrestrial specimens," Gorevan noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <more and photo, click on it to enlarge:>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://freddallas.blogspot.com/2008/11/martian-rotini-anyone.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lack of information. It might be a tooth from an
>>>>>> Aldebaranian wooly newt. Or a scale from some kind of atmospheric fish
>>>>>> (the ones with the needle teeth that attach to your kneecaps and take
>>>>>> over your mind).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where the **** are Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke. They would know
>>>>>> about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> They hit the bricks, and left Bradbury holding the bag. ;(
>>>>>
>>>>> I just looked up the school of authors groomed by John Campbell , and
>>>>> as far as I can deduce, they're all gone - Heinlein, Sturgeon, van Vogt
>>>>> and del Rey, as well as Asimov and Clarke. Rest in Peace; they were
>>>>> great men, ;(
>>>>
>>>> i never really cared for van vogt, my old man had shedloads of his
>>>> books. i tried reading 'em as a kid and didn't like 'em. i read one the
>>>> other week and it was supprizingly entertaining. i may try rereading him
>>>> at some point. maybe after i work my way through the 40 or so books i
>>>> picked up on ebay over the past couple of months.
>>>
>>> Didja fish through the Cordwainer Smith collection? huh? huh?
>>
>> why, yes. yes i did. the thing i most thought was how much like the
>> island of dr. moreau with the animal/humanized people who are
>> exploited servents. that really is a sick thing to do to any animal.
>> and the complete dissregard for thier lives if they where injured or
>> sick.
>
>The long struggle for civil rights of the Underpeople is a prominent theme
>in the later stories, climactically of course in the extremely disturbing
>"The Dead Lady of Clown Town" and stepping down a bit in "The Ballad of
>Lost C'Mell".
i'll check which storys are in the book later on as its still by the
side of my bed.
as a quick observation. i guess you could draw a parallell between
black civil rights and the underpeople. i'm not sure when the storys
where writen. none the less...
>> the other storys where good, but that one in particular sticks out.
>>
>> i was pretty ****** up with a really nasty cold when i read it, so i
>> think i'm going to read it again as i think i may have missed
>> something first read.
>
>All the best ones need savored over time and many many re-readings.
i will do that as i don't think i gave it enough attention when trying
to read it and another book during the nasty cold we all had.
>The man was a (somewhat twisty) genius.
twisty is better that straight up vanilla genius iyam.
>> currently i'm reading 'mission of gravity' by hal clement which i'm
>> really enjoying.
>
>He wrote an excellent sequel to that, _Star Light_, where the Mesklinites
>are being used as explorers on another high-grav world.
from my check of his work, there seems to be three books in the
series:
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk (i use that page a **** of a lot, quite
possibly daily and several times a day at that)
Mesklinite
1. Mission of Gravity (1954)
2. Close to Critical (1964)
3. Starlight (1971)
>> oh. i also read poul andersons 'broken sword' the
>> other day. that was one of the best hi fantasy books i've ever read. i
>> can see why its in the fantasy masterworks series.
>
>I've never been much on Anderson, although _Omnivore_ was distinctly odd,
>and the one novel of his "personifications" series, about Death, _On a
>White Horse_ IIRC, wasn't too bad, about on the level or better of
>Zelazny's "Amber" series (which I'm so-so about, too).
i've read a few of his over the years with some good and some bad. the
three lions book, i think it was called, was pretty good.
i'll have a look for 'omnivore' as odd books allways sound
interesting. the though of death on a white horse just makes me think
of clint eastwood in pale rider for some reason.
as for zelazny's amber... i've read 5 or 6 of them and only just got
the one i was missing a month or so back. i'll hopefully finnish that
series some time during jan as they're easy to read books.
