Government Morons **** Me Off...
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Cogito Ergo Sum
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I'll say it again, PUT DOWN THE BONG. You're way to stoned.
Nowhere did I ever state that movies were reality; you implied this but I never said that. Go back and READ.
What I said is that I had seen this topic in a movie before. There is a huge difference.
Then, you tried to make fun of me by asking me if I believed in movies as real to which I corrected you again, and showed you the errors of your ways, but you only made yourself appear more the fool.
On second thought, go fire up that bong, because observation of what is going on around you, and making logical deductions about the direction of the future, eludes you. Toke on buddy.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell
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Finally, we agree on something!
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell
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You can have my bong when you pry my cold dead finger off of the carborator!
OK, I did, and this is what I found...
1) ...Let's review shall we, some science fiction movie stuff that has now become reality....
2) - In 1902, a 14-minute silent French film, "The Voyage to the Moon," introduced the world to a preposterous story about a group of men traveling to the moon.
3) - Satellite based weaponry (al la James Bond)
4) Lastly, I cannot help but think of the similarities of creating battlefield machines that can think and operate themselves with the concept behind the movies
Cogito Ergo Sum
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Concepts from movies turn into reality, yes. Correct. This was my point.
Movies in their entirety are reality, no. Take another hit and float away .
However, the government wasting 2 million of taxpayer dollars to fund the automated race is still not right. Personally I think we as the people need to take the checkbook away from the government. They have proven far too often that they are not responsible with it.
Movies in their entirety are reality, no. Take another hit and float away .
However, the government wasting 2 million of taxpayer dollars to fund the automated race is still not right. Personally I think we as the people need to take the checkbook away from the government. They have proven far too often that they are not responsible with it.
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell
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Thank you! ... hits bong, sounds of gurgling water and rushing air ... That's better!
Now, THAT I can agree with!
Komrade Vostok Hazard
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This **** sounds like something out of some rivethead's wet dream.
manmade drones that think for themselves? How in the **** is this even scientifically possible?
manmade drones that think for themselves? How in the **** is this even scientifically possible?
Anna Perenna
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How dare you criticise The Chief?No, instead, the current collection of warmongering ********, led by the man who ducked any wartime service, are seeking to develop WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION...KILLING MACHINES. ******* Great...
Oh this makes me so furious!
You TERRORIST!
*** bless Warmerica.
Cogito Ergo Sum
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And just what is this "foolish position" you claim that I have?
fullauto
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I think it's foolish to think that every technology has only 1 outcome and that it is bad...
Just because the military invented the TCP protocal doesn't mean that the internet is evil!
Yes, technology such as the nuclear fission, and knowlege such as Eugenics has been used to do some pretty bad things... But There has also been some realy good to both of those...
Nuclear technology will hopefully lead to cold fusion, and has been ground breaking in the medical field...
Eugenics has paved the way for advances with some genetic diseases, and helps up regulate a good breeding population in some endangered species...
To say that ANY technology has only evil implications is a bit short sighted....
Just because the military invented the TCP protocal doesn't mean that the internet is evil!
Yes, technology such as the nuclear fission, and knowlege such as Eugenics has been used to do some pretty bad things... But There has also been some realy good to both of those...
Nuclear technology will hopefully lead to cold fusion, and has been ground breaking in the medical field...
Eugenics has paved the way for advances with some genetic diseases, and helps up regulate a good breeding population in some endangered species...
To say that ANY technology has only evil implications is a bit short sighted....
Cogito Ergo Sum
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You missed the point by a mile.
I do not say that technology is bad. In fact, I think it is a good thing for the most part.
What I THINK is bad, is seeking out the creation of WEAPONS which are capable of functioning on a battlefield without human intervention or operation. i.e. killing machines and/or robotic warriors.
To construct such a thing, invites eventual disaster because to properly work, it would require a self-learning and thinking computer, on par with neural networks and/or quantum computing modalities; technologies currently being developed today at Wichita State University and other places in the world.
The concept of a "Mr. Data" from Start Trek, or more likely, a "Terminator" killing robot, is not that far fetched and I believe only a matter of time.
Did you watch the video clips I posted? What did they say to you or cause you to think?
Some, will argue that we will never have that technological ability, but I like to remind myself of the once empirically stated position that the Pentium processing platform would never exceed 1 gigahertz (GHz)...well, the little box here under my desk is humming away at a mere 2.4 GHz and all for about $500 new.
Chip technology is progressing at unheard of rates simply because the manufacturing technology is getting better all of the time. I predict that before too long, we will have desktop chips operating in the terahertz (THz) range.
Concurrently, as chip speed increases, the complexity of software also increases, and the net result is pure computational power, the fundamental building block of these types of machines.
Lastly, you are totally incorrect in your statement that "the military invented the TCP protocol". Nothing could be further from the truth.
IP and TCP were created at universities around the world, via a collection of scientists, but culminated under the direction of Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn.
In 1972, Vinton (Vint) Cerf was a DARPA scientist at Stanford University when he was appointed chairman of the newly created International Network Working Group (INWG), inspired by the earlier Network Working Group, and with a charter to establish common technical standards to enable any computer to connect to the ARPANET.
(DARPA is NOT a military organization; DARPA was designed to be an anathema to the conventional military and R&D structure and, in fact, to be a deliberate counterpoint to traditional thinking and approaches.)
So, specifically, in May, 1974, the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) published a paper titled "A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection." The authors, Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn were the pioneers who advanced this technology and began their refinement of this technology.
In his own words, Vinton Cerf stated:
"The very earliest work on the TCP protocols was done at three
places. The initial design work was done in my lab at Stanford.
The first draft came out in the fall of 1973 for review by INWG
at a meeting at University of Sussex (September 1973). A paper by
Bob Kahn and me appeared in May 1974 in IEEE Transactions on
Communications and the first specification of the TCP protocol
was published as an Internet Experiment Note in December 1974.
We began doing concurrent implementations at Stanford, BBN, and
University College London. So effort at developing the Internet
protocols was international from the beginning. In July 1975,
the ARPANET was transferred by DARPA to the Defense
Communications Agency (now the Defense Information Systems
Agency) as an operational network.
http://www.internetvalley.com/archives/mirrors/cerf-how-inet.txt
I do not say that technology is bad. In fact, I think it is a good thing for the most part.
What I THINK is bad, is seeking out the creation of WEAPONS which are capable of functioning on a battlefield without human intervention or operation. i.e. killing machines and/or robotic warriors.
To construct such a thing, invites eventual disaster because to properly work, it would require a self-learning and thinking computer, on par with neural networks and/or quantum computing modalities; technologies currently being developed today at Wichita State University and other places in the world.
The concept of a "Mr. Data" from Start Trek, or more likely, a "Terminator" killing robot, is not that far fetched and I believe only a matter of time.
Did you watch the video clips I posted? What did they say to you or cause you to think?
Some, will argue that we will never have that technological ability, but I like to remind myself of the once empirically stated position that the Pentium processing platform would never exceed 1 gigahertz (GHz)...well, the little box here under my desk is humming away at a mere 2.4 GHz and all for about $500 new.
Chip technology is progressing at unheard of rates simply because the manufacturing technology is getting better all of the time. I predict that before too long, we will have desktop chips operating in the terahertz (THz) range.
Concurrently, as chip speed increases, the complexity of software also increases, and the net result is pure computational power, the fundamental building block of these types of machines.
Lastly, you are totally incorrect in your statement that "the military invented the TCP protocol". Nothing could be further from the truth.
IP and TCP were created at universities around the world, via a collection of scientists, but culminated under the direction of Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn.
In 1972, Vinton (Vint) Cerf was a DARPA scientist at Stanford University when he was appointed chairman of the newly created International Network Working Group (INWG), inspired by the earlier Network Working Group, and with a charter to establish common technical standards to enable any computer to connect to the ARPANET.
(DARPA is NOT a military organization; DARPA was designed to be an anathema to the conventional military and R&D structure and, in fact, to be a deliberate counterpoint to traditional thinking and approaches.)
So, specifically, in May, 1974, the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) published a paper titled "A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection." The authors, Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn were the pioneers who advanced this technology and began their refinement of this technology.
In his own words, Vinton Cerf stated:
"The very earliest work on the TCP protocols was done at three
places. The initial design work was done in my lab at Stanford.
The first draft came out in the fall of 1973 for review by INWG
at a meeting at University of Sussex (September 1973). A paper by
Bob Kahn and me appeared in May 1974 in IEEE Transactions on
Communications and the first specification of the TCP protocol
was published as an Internet Experiment Note in December 1974.
We began doing concurrent implementations at Stanford, BBN, and
University College London. So effort at developing the Internet
protocols was international from the beginning. In July 1975,
the ARPANET was transferred by DARPA to the Defense
Communications Agency (now the Defense Information Systems
Agency) as an operational network.
http://www.internetvalley.com/archives/mirrors/cerf-how-inet.txt