GUN NUT MASSACRES 5 WOMEN IN CHICAGO CLOTHING STORE

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Well, let's see.......

If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people who are
not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy one gun a
month?


"Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> robw wrote:
> > Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >
>
> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>
> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the dealer.
>
> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple
> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
> business days.
>
>
> > And before you even start, this would not include people with
collector's
> > licenses.
> >
> >
>
> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? Or
> would this be a new requirement?
>
>
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Straw buys are currently illegal.
> >>
> >> How do you propose to eliminate them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>> robw wrote:
> >>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
> >>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You?
> >>>>>
> >>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
> >>>
> >
> >
 
robw wrote:
> Well, let's see.......
>
> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people who are
> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy one gun a
> month?
>

That is not, by definition, a straw sale.

Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a month'
prevent straw buys?

>
> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>
>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>>
>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the dealer.
>>
>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple
>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
>> business days.
>>
>>
>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
> collector's
>>> licenses.
>>>
>>>
>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? Or
>> would this be a new requirement?
>>
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>>>>
>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>>>
>
>
 
robw, the topp posting retard wrote:

> My thinking is....

There's yer problem!
YOU don't think!

>that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he probably
> wouldn't have shot and killed people.

Considering the fact that it's ILLEGAL to own in Chicago in the first
place, your point is almost as moot as the shape of your head, poindextor!

The suspect did NOT have LEGAL access to it!
The VICTEMS were all DENIED!

Don't you get it?

Each and every time a VICTIM is "shot", the VICTIMS are unarmed due to
YOUR laws that unarm ONLY the victims!

There are already LAWS that say that it's against the law to rob,
murder, rape, etc.

Crimminals don't care.

However, YOU want rights that fight FOR the criminals!


Why is that?









> "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>>robw, the top postin retard wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down your
>
> throat?
>
>>it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget.
>> It was a MURDER EVENT.
>>
>>
>>>Yeah asshole, you keep smiling.
>>
>>I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened.
>>
>>YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, not
>>because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered.
>>
>> YOU still don't care, or understand.
>> :(
>>
>>
>
>
>
 
Hmmmm. I'm a legal buyer who plies my trade by purchasing handguns and
selling them to criminals.

I now can buy......oh, 30 a month.
If I can buy only one a month, I think that might harm my supply and
demand???

Hey ashole, you think the Tooth Fairy brings illegal guns to criminals???


"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3A9148FD8E7Sandman@216.196.97.136...
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
> > Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>
> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>
> > And before you even start, this would not include people with
> collector's
> > licenses.
> >
> >
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Straw buys are currently illegal.
> >>
> >> How do you propose to eliminate them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> >> robw wrote:
> >> >>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
> >> >>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You?
> >> >>>
> >> >> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> to terrorism is much, much worse
 
RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>
> And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
>

It won't.

If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical question,
he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being
able to buy one gun a month?"

What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
 
One a month sales would help hinder the supply????




"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3A912177DC4Sandman@216.196.97.136...
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
> > Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>
> Yep, and they are already illegal. Now what??
>
>
>
> --
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> to terrorism is much, much worse
 
Not what you inferred before there.


"KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
news:47a77fd7$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> robw wrote:
>
> > My right was taken away.....when?
>
> Your right to maintain a brain,, the day after your birth!
 
No, you're right.
He found the gun.

He didn't buy it, it wasn't given to him, he just found it.


"KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
news:47a7806a$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> robw the retarded top poster wrote:
>
> > Oh, I guess he found the gun under his pillow.
>
> Who "gave him the gun" you retard?
>
> YOU made the claim..YOU back it up.
 
Let's see where he got the gun......shall we?


"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A3A918FFF87Sandman@216.196.97.136...
> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:s-
> 2dnWlsdeLl7DranZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com:
>
> > My thinking is that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he
> probably
> > wouldn't have shot and killed people.
>
> I would bet that his access to any gun was already illegal.
>
> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> > news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >> robw, the top postin retard wrote:
> >>
> >> > Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down your
> > throat?
> >>
> >> it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget.
> >> It was a MURDER EVENT.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yeah asshole, you keep smiling.
> >>
> >> I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened.
> >>
> >> YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, not
> >> because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered.
> >>
> >> YOU still don't care, or understand.
> >> :(
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> RD (The Sandman)
>
> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
> to terrorism is much, much worse
 
So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to Lou of
Lou's pawn Shop who got closed for such sales.


"Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> robw wrote:
> > Well, let's see.......
> >
> > If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people who
are
> > not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy one
gun a
> > month?
> >
>
> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>
> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a month'
> prevent straw buys?
>
> >
> > "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> > news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >> robw wrote:
> >>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >>>
> >> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
> >>
> >> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
dealer.
> >>
> >> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
> >> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple
> >> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
> >> business days.
> >>
> >>
> >>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
> > collector's
> >>> licenses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? Or
> >> would this be a new requirement?
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> >>>> robw wrote:
> >>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
> >>>>
> >>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>>>>> robw wrote:
> >>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
> >>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
> >>>
> >
> >
 
If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and now I
can only buy one gun a month...

Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????




"Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
news:_wLpj.91004$L%6.53375@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:ZdOdnRpL9
> > _P65zranZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> >
> >> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
> >
> > And will eliminate straw purchases....how????
> >
>
> It won't.
>
> If you read his reply to me when I asked nearly the identical question,
> he states "If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to
> people who are not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being
> able to buy one gun a month?"
>
> What he describes is not "straw sales" nor "straw buys".
 
I'm not against concealed carry.
You won't find any posts where I've ever said that.
(please feel free to google all you want)

I have said I think it's not effective.

You're having a rehearsed argument with someone who doesn't think the way
you're expecting.




"KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
news:47a783f6$0$25020$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> robw, the topp posting retard wrote:
>
> > My thinking is....
>
> There's yer problem!
> YOU don't think!
>
> >that if the guy didn't have access to the gun he probably
> > wouldn't have shot and killed people.
>
> Considering the fact that it's ILLEGAL to own in Chicago in the first
> place, your point is almost as moot as the shape of your head, poindextor!
>
> The suspect did NOT have LEGAL access to it!
> The VICTEMS were all DENIED!
>
> Don't you get it?
>
> Each and every time a VICTIM is "shot", the VICTIMS are unarmed due to
> YOUR laws that unarm ONLY the victims!
>
> There are already LAWS that say that it's against the law to rob,
> murder, rape, etc.
>
> Crimminals don't care.
>
> However, YOU want rights that fight FOR the criminals!
>
>
> Why is that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> > news:47a766e1$0$25018$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >
> >>robw, the top postin retard wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Smiling that this is another gun event that we'll stuff down your
> >
> > throat?
> >
> >>it wasn't a "gun event", you mental midget.
> >> It was a MURDER EVENT.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yeah asshole, you keep smiling.
> >>
> >>I just smiled at your ignorance of what happened.
> >>
> >>YOU LAUGHED just because a gun was used by a retard like you, not
> >>because innocent UNARMED PEOPLE were murdered.
> >>
> >> YOU still don't care, or understand.
> >> :(
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
 
robw thrt top posting retard wrote:
> No, you're right.

I am always right

> He found the gun.

Or stole it, or bought it through a thief,Perhaps.
But YOU said it was given to him!
So, I proved you wrong again!


> He didn't buy it, it wasn't given to him, he just found it.

So admit you lied, you putz!

Your point?
As always, the fact is, the suspect shot unarmed people!

Deny that, and WIN A NEW CAR!
 
robw, the top posting retard wrote:

> Not what you inferred before there.

I've always inferred that you were a retard.
>
>
> "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:47a77fd7$0$25048$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>>robw wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My right was taken away.....when?
>>
>>Your right to maintain a brain,, the day after your birth!
>
>
>
 
robw, thr top[ posting retard wrote:

> If I legally buy 60 guns a month and sell them to criminals.....and now I
> can only buy one gun a month...

That would be a federal crime, you jackass.
Have you EVER paid attention?


> Ya' wanna buy stock in my company?????

You aren't smart enough to own a company.
Hells bells!

You also lied when you said you won 8k on the Superbowl.

Your so full of ****, you make your brown eye blue!
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:h4SdnY8oBZ4izzranZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> That is absolutely not true.
>
> Check out the law that was proposed in Philly.

Which only proves RD's point.


> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3A6DCC5192BSandman@216.196.97.136...
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:kIadnf_wgohZ9DvanZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> > If the gun was illegal it's only more **** to smear in your face.
>>
>> Not at all. I am as much against illegal possession of a firearm as you
>> should be. However, all the attempts of your ilk to pass gun control is
>> directed at the honest citizen not assholes like the one in Lane Bryant.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse
>
>
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TYSdnR5SR9CkzzranZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Im "get it" that morons like you have no regard for limiting illegal guns.

How? By limiting legal guns like was proposed in Philly?



> "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3A6DEEB9FC1Sandman@216.196.97.136...
>> "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> > I'm not opposed to guns.
>> > I'm opposed to illegal guns.
>>
>> So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get it now,
>> asshole?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RD (The Sandman)
>>
>> War is absolute hell.....but to give in
>> to terrorism is much, much worse
>
>
 
robw wrote:
> So what is your definition and you might want to pas it along to Lou of
> Lou's pawn Shop [ Lou's Loans ] who got closed for such sales.
>

Someone gives you the money and you buy a gun for them is a straw
purchase. Doesn't matter if it's one gun or several.

In a straw-purchase scheme, a felon, barred by law from buying guns,
recruits someone who can legally buy guns. The intermediary fills out
forms, passes a background check, purchases the guns, then gives them to
the felon, who uses them to commit crimes or illegally resells them for
a big profit.

Lou's Loans lost its license because of a multitude of violations of
federal gun laws, some of those violations were straw
sales/purchases--also there were illegal purchases and selling multiple
guns to a person without notifying the ATF in violation of the Federal
Multiple Handgun Reporting program.

How does one gun a month eliminate "straw purchases"?

> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:ToLpj.90999$L%6.70175@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>>> Well, let's see.......
>>>
>>> If a legal purchaser buys many guns a month and sells them to people who
> are
>>> not legal to own.......vs. that same person only being able to buy one
> gun a
>>> month?
>>>
>> That is not, by definition, a straw sale.
>>
>> Back to the original situation and question, how does 'one gun a month'
>> prevent straw buys?
>>
>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>> news:J3Lpj.90990$L%6.70634@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>> Limit the sale of hand guns to one a month.
>>>>>
>>>> How exactly does this prevent straw purchases?
>>>>
>>>> The final recipient of the gun is not the one buying it from the
> dealer.
>>>> Also, currently there is a Federal Multiple Handgun Reporting program.
>>>> Current federal law requires dealers to report to ATF any "multiple
>>>> sales" of two or more handguns that occur within five consecutive
>>>> business days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And before you even start, this would not include people with
>>> collector's
>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Is there a current requirement to obtain a "collector's license"? Or
>>>> would this be a new requirement?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dmKpj.60271$k27.3858@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Straw buys are currently illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you propose to eliminate them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>> robw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>>>>>>>>> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>>>
>
>
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cqadnWalQ8-MxDranZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
> If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>
> I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.

IOW, you want an impossible fantasy.....mean while back in reality......


> "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:47a75654$0$25029$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in
>> > news:9-idnZPN-aPEHjvanZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>> >>I'm not opposed to guns.
>> >>I'm opposed to illegal guns.
>>
>> > So are we opposed to illegal possession of guns. Do you get it now,
>> > asshole?
>>
>> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals can have guns in or near Chicago.
>> (legality means nothing)
>> "robw" forgets that ONLY criminals shoot unarmed people.
>> "robw" forgets that ONLY the free people are denied a method to defend
>> thenselvs in Chicago, as ordered by the LIBERAL government that inacted
>> stump stupid laws that cured nothing.
>> "robw" forgets that he is dancing in the blood of other's demise to
>> promote his stupidity.
>>
>
>
 
"robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pbmdnWB7jeED7TranZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Eliminating straw buys would be a great start.

You do realize that straw sales are ALREADY illegal. Right?

So how much more illegal do you want them to be?


> "Magus" <nope@noway.net> wrote in message
> news:bEJpj.90928$L%6.33472@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> robw wrote:
>> > If you want a legal carry law in Chicago, knock yourself out.
>> > If you want to legally own a million guns, so be it.
>> >
>> > I just want illegal guns reduced to nothing.
>> >
>> > You?
>> >
>>
>> How do you suggest that be accomplished?
>
>
 

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