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THE nation's most senior Muslim cleric has blamed immodestly dressed women who don't wear Islamic headdress for being preyed on by men and likened them to abandoned "meat" that attracts voracious animals.
In a Ramadan sermon that has outraged Muslim women leaders, Sydney-based Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali also alluded to the infamous Sydney gang rapes, suggesting the attackers were not entirely to blame.
While not specifically referring to the rapes, brutal attacks on four women for which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences, Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy (rahma) and gives you 65 years".
Lethalfind said:Not too diminish what your saying Builder, that is a terrible thing to say however its nothing new. That statement has been made by Muslims on this site about how Western women dress. I have had Muslim men say this in classes I have been in.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Of course in Sociology class when a guy said that, I replied "so Muslim men have NO control over themselves AND all the burden for this is placed on the women". He was pissed AND thanks to this being American and a public school, he could do nothing about my statement.
Yes, whatever you do, don't blame the culture that breeds this sort of old world theology.Mariama said:His comments were wrong, but do not for one minute blame Islam for what he said.
phreakwars said:The Muslim may have said it, but I can't say I disagree with the logic behind it.
If your in the mid east or anywhere for that matter, what's gonna give you a stiffy more ??
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Illogical! Physically it's the male that is stronger, but the female should be the deadlier of the species, however, the Islamic whackjobs have insured the near-extinction of the women in the Middle East! ISLAM IS PIGSHIT!!!Lethalfind said:I guess the obvious difference is that no matter how you dress a man (or undress him), women rarely are driven to rape him...AND when women do commit sexual crimes against a man, the women are blamed...and rightly so.
BUT men, being the weaker of the species are not expected to control themselves when a women is dressed provacatively and he can't control himself.
Thanks builder. You just made my day.builder said:I don't see your point, phreak.
Directing your post to a particular person would indeed circumvent confusion. In the future, utilize this tactic.Seeing you stupid comments makes me change my mind on certain things.
Your battling conceived generalizations, with generalizations. I don't drink, ever. Sodomy is gross, I don't diddle the pooper. Using women??? Hmmm, this statement is mired in ambiguity. All humans, be it man or woman, have the inherent trait of free thought. In some cultures their freedom of thought is suppressed. Here in America, freedom of thought is encouraged, yes, even for women. Freedom is a compromise of good and bad. With certain freedoms come a down side. Such as woman being allowed to wear sexy clothing. Some men are mentally defective and cannot control their sexual depravity. Rape may ensue with this combination of circumstance, the chance meeting of a sexily clad young lady and a sexual predator.People like you since the beginning have been saying and doing the same old tired things, Drinking too much, smoking, using women, the filthy act of sodomy....
Statistics are derived from reported incidents of rape. In many Muslim Nations, the statistics are skewed because of the lack of reported rape. Your assertion that low rape statistics in the Muslim world are the result of "protection" of women, well, I find it a humorous take on reality. With or without your admission, rape occurs in Muslim nations with great speed. Due to the "protection" of the Muslim woman, she has not the power nor the ability to have justice for the crime against her.We are protected which is why the west has sky high rape statistics!!
Is this by choice or by way of religious doctrine? Because choice is a good thing. Going out and enjoying life is a good thing. Maybe something bad will happen, and you will be left with regret for your debauchery. Maybe you will have a great time, then die the next day in a terrible fire. However you'll be glad for the good times you allowed yourself, as opposed to seething regret for living a life of sheltered comfort under the awning of religious laws.We do not go out late at night and drink till we cannot stand and we do not stay out without a man to look after us!!
The "dark ages". A reference to a time when religion of the land was the governing force. A time when peoples freedoms and choices were dictated by religious doctrine. A time when killing the non-believers, be it man woman or child, was an act which inherited one eternal martyrdom.and that is why you are stuck in the dark ages.
For you to continue to argue that the egregious stripping of human rights from women in the Muslim world is a form of adoring protection, will only result in my continuing to post examples to the contrary. Your stubborn opinion, derived from your instinct to protect your faith, will not have the power to counter the reality that exist.The Saudi kingdom is known for its harsh treatment of women, who are prohibited from driving or leaving their homes without their husbands, fathers, or brothers. In public, they are forced to wear suffocating black veils that cover them from head to toe, turning them into shadows of the men they walk behind.