Moses and the Ten Commandments

[phreakwars]

(Now if I can only get some of my fellow believers to understand this, my life's work will be fulfilled.)

Well good luck with those fellow believers. 30 years of doing Catholic aerobics has taught me it's better to just be a Deist.

But instead of asking "is there an explanation for this" and researching it to find out, you ran off half ****ed screaming about how you found an EEK error in the BIBLE!! You failed to do your homework.

Isn't any homework to do, the bible says what it says, your now trying to tell me the VATICAN interpretation is wrong and misunderstood ??

Well if that is the case, then I think a switch to a more civilized "faith" such as Deism was the perfect choice. If I am presented with an alleged holy scripture like the bible, see something written in it, then need to "RESEARCH" the meaning to please the masses to have it interpreted into something THEY want to believe, then to me, the book is worthless.

Well, the link is to an article by someone who DID do the homework. By studying Semitic literature practices and customs, we see the "contradiction" isn't there, because the differences are accounted for by the customs of the people who wrote the book.

Really ?? I thought the link was to someone else's hypothesis.

Remember, the Bible wasn't written yesterday. This is a culture separated from us by 3500 years. If you do not take that into account, it GUARENTEES you will come up with a faulty interpretation.

Now you have me confused. Your now saying that TIME is a factor that should be accounted for in the interpretation of this book, yet, other religions like Islam, like to take pride in the fact that their version of the Qur'an has never changed since Mohammad allegedly wrote the damn thing.

I guess the only solution here is pretty simple....

ALL HEIL EN.KI !!!​

Furthurmore,http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tentab.html , does not even begin to cover the topic at hand. I was not disputing the 10 commandments per say, I was debating what was written on the tablets.​

It is usually argued that here, God said He would make a set of tables containing the words that were on the first set; yet the ten commands that follow do not match the usual set of "Thou shalt not..." commands. Well, here's what the deal is: Ex. 34 contains a ritual Decalogue that is likely meant to be parallel to the ethical Decalogue, and Ex. 34 as a whole is a narrative of the renewal of the covenant following the golden calf incident. The ritual Decalogue is an addition in light of that incident, and note that Moses is commanded to write them, whereas it is God who will write the new copy of the ethical set (34:1, 28; the subject of "he wrote upon the tables" in the last verse is God -- it is because these critics understand the subject as Moses that they are missing the point). FOLLOWED BY MORE YADDA, YADDA YADDA BULLSHIT....

So this is a RITUAL now is it ?? Boy someone needs to read the bible more often, ****in PAGAN GOD followers anyway. But for arguements sake, lets just take a look at the first 28 lines of Exodus 34:

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The LORD said to Moses, "Cut two stone tablets like the former, that I may write on them the commandments which were on the former tablets that you broke.

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Get ready for tomorrow morning, when you are to go up Mount Sinai and there present yourself to me on the top of the mountain.

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No one shall come up with you, and no one is even to be seen on any part of the mountain; even the flocks and the herds are not to go grazing toward this mountain."

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Moses then cut two stone tablets like the former, and early the next morning he went up Mount Sinai as the LORD had commanded him, taking along the two stone tablets.

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Having come down in a cloud, the LORD stood with him there and proclaimed his name, "LORD."

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Thus the LORD passed before him and cried out, "The LORD, the LORD, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in kindness and fidelity,

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continuing his kindness for a thousand generations, and forgiving wickedness and crime and sin; yet not declaring the guilty guiltless, but punishing children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generation for their fathers' wickedness!"

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Moses at once bowed down to the ground in worship.

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Then he said, "If I find favor with you, O Lord, do come along in our company. This is indeed a stiff-necked people; yet pardon our wickedness and sins, and receive us as your own."

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"Here, then," said the LORD, "is the covenant I will make. Before the eyes of all your people I will work such marvels as have never been wrought in any nation anywhere on earth, so that this people among whom you live may see how awe-inspiring are the deeds which I, the LORD, will do at your side.

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But you, on your part, must keep the commandments I am giving you today. "I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.

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Take care, therefore, not to make a covenant with these inhabitants of the land that you are to enter; else they will become a snare among you.

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1 Tear down their altars; smash their sacred pillars, and cut down their sacred poles.

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2 You shall not worship any other god, for the LORD is 'the Jealous One'; a jealous God is he.

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Do not make a covenant with the inhabitants of that land; else, when they render their wanton worship to their gods and sacrifice to them, one of them may invite you and you may partake of his sacrifice.

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Neither shall you take their daughters as wives for your sons; otherwise, when their daughters render their wanton worship to their gods, they will make your sons do the same.

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"You shall not make for yourselves molten gods.

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"You shall keep the feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days at the prescribed time in the month of Abib you are to eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you; for in the month of Abib you came out of Egypt.

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"To me belongs every first-born male that opens the womb among all your livestock, whether in the herd or in the flock.

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The firstling of an ass you shall redeem with one of the flock; if you do not redeem it, you must break its neck. The first-born among your sons you shall redeem. "No one shall appear before me empty-handed.

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"For six days you may work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; on that day you must rest even during the seasons of plowing and harvesting.

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3 "You shall keep the feast of Weeks with the first of the wheat harvest; likewise, the feast at the fruit harvest at the close of the year.

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Three times a year all your men shall appear before the Lord, the LORD God of Israel.

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Since I will drive out the nations before you to give you a large territory, there will be no one to covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the LORD, your God.

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"You shall not offer me the blood of sacrifice with leavened bread, nor shall the sacrifice of the Passover feast be kept overnight for the next day.

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"The choicest first fruits of your soil you shall bring to the house of the LORD, your God. "You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk."

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Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with them I have made a covenant with you and with Israel."

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So Moses stayed there with the LORD for forty days and forty nights, without eating any food or drinking any water, and he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.



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