MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union.................

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MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.

Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.

The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
Baker and Ken Shepherd.

Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.

View video here.
http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.

And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
quickly. That didn't happen again.


Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?

UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.

SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
Bush . . .

BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
unanimous.]

SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
coverage.

BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
found out, got very angry,

BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.

SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.

BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.

SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.

BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!

SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!

BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.

SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
Sunlight's the best disinfectant.

BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.


I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
having a Republican brother.
 
Who wouldn''t?


"Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187279642.256605.180110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
> By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
> UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.
>
> Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
> MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
> ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.
>
> The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
> discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
> and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
> applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
> memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
> Baker and Ken Shepherd.
>
> Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.
>
> View video here.
> http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
> Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
> though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
> outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.
>
> JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
> love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
> was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
> into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
> I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
> and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.
>
> And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
> State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
> were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
> actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
> MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
> night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
> store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
> it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
> down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
> booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
> quickly. That didn't happen again.
>
>
> Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
> But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
> professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
> booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?
>
> UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.
>
> SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
> ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
> back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
> Bush . . .
>
> BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
> unanimous.]
>
> SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
> coverage.
>
> BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!
>
> SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
> found out, got very angry,
>
> BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.
>
> SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.
>
> BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.
>
> SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
> But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.
>
> BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!
>
> SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!
>
> BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.
>
> SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
> Sunlight's the best disinfectant.
>
> BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.
>
>
> I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
> she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
> stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
> having a Republican brother.
>
 
On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Who wouldn''t?




Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........




>
> "Greg Brown" <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187279642.256605.180110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
> > By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
> > UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.

>
> > Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
> > MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
> > ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.

>
> > The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
> > discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
> > and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
> > applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
> > memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
> > Baker and Ken Shepherd.

>
> > Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.

>
> > View video here.
> >http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
> > Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
> > though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
> > outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.

>
> > JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
> > love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
> > was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
> > into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
> > I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
> > and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.

>
> > And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
> > State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
> > were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
> > actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
> > MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
> > night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
> > store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
> > it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
> > down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
> > booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
> > quickly. That didn't happen again.

>
> > Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
> > But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
> > professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
> > booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?

>
> > UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
> > ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
> > back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
> > Bush . . .

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
> > unanimous.]

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
> > coverage.

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
> > found out, got very angry,

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
> > But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.

>
> > SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
> > Sunlight's the best disinfectant.

>
> > BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.

>
> > I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
> > she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
> > stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
> > having a Republican brother.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Who wouldn''t?

>
> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........


That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
feel that they are unbiased?

BLP
 
"Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187302706.525566.303890@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> Who wouldn''t?

>
>
>
> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>
>


So do you post here also whenever FoxNews gloats over how wonderful Bush is
and that he should be made President for Life?

>
>
>>
>> "Greg Brown" <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187279642.256605.180110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
>> > By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
>> > UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.

>>
>> > Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
>> > MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
>> > ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.

>>
>> > The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
>> > discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
>> > and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
>> > applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
>> > memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
>> > Baker and Ken Shepherd.

>>
>> > Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.

>>
>> > View video here.
>> >http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
>> > Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
>> > though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
>> > outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.

>>
>> > JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
>> > love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
>> > was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
>> > into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
>> > I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
>> > and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.

>>
>> > And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
>> > State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
>> > were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
>> > actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
>> > MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
>> > night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
>> > store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
>> > it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
>> > down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
>> > booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
>> > quickly. That didn't happen again.

>>
>> > Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
>> > But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
>> > professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
>> > booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?

>>
>> > UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
>> > ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
>> > back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
>> > Bush . . .

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
>> > unanimous.]

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
>> > coverage.

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
>> > found out, got very angry,

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
>> > But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.

>>
>> > SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
>> > Sunlight's the best disinfectant.

>>
>> > BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.

>>
>> > I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
>> > she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
>> > stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
>> > having a Republican brother.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>
 
"Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Who wouldn''t?

>>
>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>
> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
> feel that they are unbiased?
>
> BLP


They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
shows their bias.

They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
away from work..
 
On Aug 16, 6:12 pm, "GoMavs" <M...@ericks.com> wrote:
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
> >> > Who wouldn''t?

>
> >> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>
> > That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
> > something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
> > feel that they are unbiased?

>
> > BLP

>
> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
> shows their bias.


In their private lives, they may feel however they want. How does this
translate to reporting bias?

> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
> away from work..


There is a difference between writing from a biased perspective and
booing someone on TV.

BLP
 
On Aug 16, 3:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Who wouldn''t?

>
> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Greg Brown" <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:1187279642.256605.180110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
> > > By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
> > > UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.

>
> > > Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
> > > MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
> > > ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.

>
> > > The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
> > > discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
> > > and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
> > > applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
> > > memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
> > > Baker and Ken Shepherd.

>
> > > Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.

>
> > > View video here.
> > >http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
> > > Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
> > > though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
> > > outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.

>
> > > JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
> > > love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
> > > was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
> > > into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
> > > I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
> > > and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.

>
> > > And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
> > > State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
> > > were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
> > > actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
> > > MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
> > > night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
> > > store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
> > > it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
> > > down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
> > > booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
> > > quickly. That didn't happen again.

>
> > > Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
> > > But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
> > > professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
> > > booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?

>
> > > UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
> > > ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
> > > back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
> > > Bush . . .

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
> > > unanimous.]

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
> > > coverage.

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
> > > found out, got very angry,

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
> > > But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.

>
> > > SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
> > > Sunlight's the best disinfectant.

>
> > > BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.

>
> > > I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
> > > she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
> > > stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
> > > having a Republican brother.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Uh, sorry there's a difference between being biased and being sane
 
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:02:34 GMT, "Andrew" <usafguy99@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>"Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1187302706.525566.303890@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Who wouldn''t?

>>
>>
>>
>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>
>>

>
>So do you post here also whenever FoxNews gloats over how wonderful Bush is
>and that he should be made President for Life?
>

Go ahead and give us a cite on that.

This is about a real event that actually happened. Not left-wing
wanking.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "Greg Brown" <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1187279642.256605.180110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
>>> > By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET
>>> > UPDATE: Joe and Mika discuss this NB item. See below.
>>>
>>> > Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at
>>> > MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom
>>> > ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.
>>>
>>> > The revelation came on "Morning Joe" today at 6:02 A.M. EDT. Joe was
>>> > discussing a recent episode at the Seattle Times in which reporters
>>> > and editors cheered the news that Karl Rove had resigned. Scarborough
>>> > applauded Seattle Times Executive Editor Dave Boardman for issuing a
>>> > memorandum reproving his colleagues. For more, read NB items by Brent
>>> > Baker and Ken Shepherd.
>>>
>>> > Joe went on to describe a similar incident at MSNBC.
>>>
>>> > View video here.
>>> >http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/07/2007-08-16MSNBCMJScarborough.wmv
>>> > Note: that's newsreader Mika Brzezinksi heard murmuring in assent,
>>> > though one has to wonder just how thrilled she was by Joe's candor in
>>> > outing her fellow MSNBC liberals.
>>>
>>> > JOE SCARBOROUGH: There was a story out of Seattle, and the reason I
>>> > love it is that it's transparency in the news. You have an editor who
>>> > was actually outing his own people. The Seattle Times newsroom broke
>>> > into applause when Karl Rove resigned. And of course that's bad. What
>>> > I like about it is that the editor actually wrote about it and went in
>>> > and told the people in the newsroom that was unacceptable.
>>>
>>> > And I've got to say, my first night here at MSNBC was the President's
>>> > State of the Union address in 2003, and I was shocked because there
>>> > were actually people in the newsroom that were booing the president
>>> > actually from the beginning to the end. And I actually talked to [NBC/
>>> > MSNBC executive] Phil Griffin about it, and he said "how was it last
>>> > night?" Because he was the one that called me out of the Ace Hardware
>>> > store, got my vest on. He said "how was it last night?" I said "well,
>>> > it's OK, I understand it's a little bit different up here than it is
>>> > down in northwest Florida, but you had people in the newsroom actively
>>> > booing the President of the United States. Phil turned red very
>>> > quickly. That didn't happen again.
>>>
>>> > Great news: the MSNBC newsroom no longer actively boos the President!
>>> > But did Griffin replace any of the offenders and bring in
>>> > professionals, or is MSNBC still staffed by people who simply do their
>>> > booing on the inside -- and in the news choices they make?
>>>
>>> > UPDATE, 8-16: At 6:48 A.M. EDT Joe and Mika discussed this item.
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: Chris [MJ producer Chris Licht] told me something in my
>>> > ear during break, that we talked at 6:02 about the Seattle Times and
>>> > back in 2003, back in 2003, the newsroom at MSNBC booing George
>>> > Bush . . .
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: Some people, yeah [Mika wanting to make clear it wasn't
>>> > unanimous.]
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: A lot of the people that were actually charged with the
>>> > coverage.
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh dear!
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, that's bad. And I talked about how Phil Griffin
>>> > found out, got very angry,
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: Right, as he should.
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: And cleaned that up. That never happened again.
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: N-o-o-o.
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: And this whole place has changed an awful lot since then.
>>> > But NewsBusters, already has a story at like 6:30.
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: Oh my God!
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: Ruthless efficiency!
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: I try not to look there. They don't like me.
>>>
>>> > SCARBOROUGH: They said I pulled back the curtain. You know what?
>>> > Sunlight's the best disinfectant.
>>>
>>> > BRZEZINKSI: Darn right.
>>>
>>> > I don't dislike Mika. I just wish she would admit the obvious: that
>>> > she is a liberal Democrat who occasionally lets her bias show, and
>>> > stop hiding behind the flimsy cover, as proof of her objectivity, of
>>> > having a Republican brother.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>>

>
 
GoMavs wrote:
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who wouldn''t?
>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>
>> BLP

>
> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
> shows their bias.
>


Were they reporting the BoooOos, Moron?

> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
> away from work..

The BooOs showed up in there reports, eh?
Like "Booooooo- Boooooo BOOOOO!!!!!"? Or was it BOOOOOOOOO!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" Were they quoted
"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"? or maybe the Boo0's were out of context? Did they
have a second source or were the "BOOO's" not named?

"Some folks say BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" Like that?

Christ you Rightards are childish and pathetic.
 
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:12:43 GMT, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote:

>
>"Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>
>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>>
>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>
>> BLP

>
>They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
>shows their bias.
>They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
>away from work..


Ummmm what were they reporting on? Actually MSNBC was just levelling
the field and counteracting all the cheers coming from Fox Noise. You
know, that fair and balanced network.

WB Yeats
 
On Aug 16, 5:20 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 6:12 pm, "GoMavs" <M...@ericks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>
> > >> > Who wouldn''t?

>
> > >> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>
> > > That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
> > > something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
> > > feel that they are unbiased?

>
> > > BLP

>
> > They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
> > shows their bias.

>
> In their private lives, they may feel however they want. How does this
> translate to reporting bias?
>
> > They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
> > away from work..

>
> There is a difference between writing from a biased perspective and
> booing someone on TV.
>
> BLP-



Considering they were basically reprimanded and told that it should
never happen again is a good clue that it shouldn't have happened in
the first place!
 
"GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
>
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>
>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........

>>
>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>
>> BLP

>
> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
> shows their bias.


Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.

****ing idiot.


>
> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
> away from work..


Bullshit.

Their product. They aren't robots.

They aren't like you.
 
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
> news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
>>
>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>
>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>
>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>
>>> BLP

>>
>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
>> shows their bias.

>
> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>
> ****ing idiot.
>

It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you have.
I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person is not
suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can you trust
the news that they feed us?
 
Jerry Okamura wrote:

> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
> you trust the news that they feed us?


That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for failure.

That's one of the reasons why it's so stupid for Bush's followers to
accept his word on faith - when so many, more credible, individuals and
organizations have already proved him wrong.
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:18:26 -0700, Greg Brown
<gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> Who wouldn''t?

>
>
>
>Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........


The reporting is supposed to be factual. That doesn't mean the
reporter is supposed to be some kind of ideological eunuch.
 
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46c61d9e$0$24082$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
>> news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
>>>
>>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>>
>>>> BLP
>>>
>>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
>>> shows their bias.

>>
>> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>>
>> ****ing idiot.
>>

> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person is
> not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can you
> trust the news that they feed us?


Everyone has biases.

That doesn't mean your work product is biased.
 
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
>> you trust the news that they feed us?

>
> That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
> single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for failure.


Which is why news sources have editors. And more editors.

Reputable ones at least.


>
> That's one of the reasons why it's so stupid for Bush's followers to
> accept his word on faith - when so many, more credible, individuals and
> organizations have already proved him wrong.
 
So you want Zombie News?


"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46c61d9e$0$24082$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
> > news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
> >>
> >> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Who wouldn''t?
> >>>>
> >>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
> >>>
> >>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
> >>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
> >>> feel that they are unbiased?
> >>>
> >>> BLP
> >>
> >> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This

clearly
> >> shows their bias.

> >
> > Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
> >
> > ****ing idiot.
> >

> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you

have.
> I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person is not
> suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can you

trust
> the news that they feed us?
>
 
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:piJxi.14884$eY.12386@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
>> you trust the news that they feed us?

>
> That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
> single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for failure.


Great idea!!! Now all you have to tell us how you achieve that goal?
>
> That's one of the reasons why it's so stupid for Bush's followers to
> accept his word on faith - when so many, more credible, individuals and
> organizations have already proved him wrong.


Or to accept what the other side says?
 
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