MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union.................

[Jerry Okamura]

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>
>>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
>>> you trust the news that they feed us?
>>
>> That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
>> single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for failure.
>
> Which is why news sources have editors. And more editors.
>
> Reputable ones at least.
>
I would think that it does very little good to have editors, even many
editors, if they have the same internal biases as the writer.

 

[Jerry Okamura]

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>>>
>>>>> BLP
>>>>
>>>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This
>>>> clearly shows their bias.
>>>
>>> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>>>
>>> ****ing idiot.
>>>
>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
>> you trust the news that they feed us?
>
> Everyone has biases.
>
> That doesn't mean your work product is biased.
>

No, it does not mean that their work product is biased, but it does take a
big effort on someone parts to be truly unbiased and I am not convinced that
it can be done, with every newsperson, and every editor, in every news
organization.

 

[Roger]

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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>>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>>
>>>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>>>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>>>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how
>>>> can you trust the news that they feed us?
>>>
>>> That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
>>> single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for
>>> failure.
>>
>> Which is why news sources have editors. And more editors.
>>
>> Reputable ones at least.
>>
> I would think that it does very little good to have editors, even many
> editors, if they have the same internal biases as the writer.

You think wrong.

 

[Roger]

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>>>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>>>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BLP
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This
>>>>> clearly shows their bias.
>>>>
>>>> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>>>>
>>>> ****ing idiot.
>>>>
>>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how can
>>> you trust the news that they feed us?
>>
>> Everyone has biases.
>>
>> That doesn't mean your work product is biased.
>>
>
> No, it does not mean that their work product is biased, but it does take a
> big effort on someone parts to be truly unbiased and I am not convinced
> that it can be done, with every newsperson, and every editor, in every
> news organization.

You do know that reporter and editor positions aren't jobs for life, right?

 

[Jerry Okamura]

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>>>>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news
>>>>> person is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias,
>>>>> than how can you trust the news that they feed us?
>>>>
>>>> That's easy. The answer is independent verification. Any time you
>>>> single-source from a third party, you're setting yourself up for
>>>> failure.
>>>
>>> Which is why news sources have editors. And more editors.
>>>
>>> Reputable ones at least.
>>>
>> I would think that it does very little good to have editors, even many
>> editors, if they have the same internal biases as the writer.
>
> You think wrong.
>

Okay...lousy response, but okay.....

 

[Jerry Okamura]

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased"
>>>>>>>> newsroom.........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>>>>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>>>>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BLP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This
>>>>>> clearly shows their bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>>>>>
>>>>> ****ing idiot.
>>>>>
>>>> It does not matter. You cannot be unbiased because of the biases you
>>>> have. I cannot be unbiased because of the biases I have. A news person
>>>> is not suppose to be biased, and when they show their bias, than how
>>>> can you trust the news that they feed us?
>>>
>>> Everyone has biases.
>>>
>>> That doesn't mean your work product is biased.
>>>
>>
>> No, it does not mean that their work product is biased, but it does take
>> a big effort on someone parts to be truly unbiased and I am not convinced
>> that it can be done, with every newsperson, and every editor, in every
>> news organization.
>
> You do know that reporter and editor positions aren't jobs for life,
> right?
>
What has that got to do with the price of beans?

 

[CHUCK MARTIN]

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>
>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>
>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>
>>> BLP
>>
>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
>> shows their bias.
>
> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>
> ****ing idiot.
>
>
>>
>> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
>> away from work..
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Their product. They aren't robots.
>
> They aren't like you.
>

however, these same repukes complaing now would be cheering if it were
clintons impeachment being cheered on in the fox spin room

 

[patriot]

"CHUCK MARTIN" <res8ezqw@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> wrote in message
>> news:%J5xi.68177$SV4.26483@trnddc08...
>>>
>>> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpramer@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Who wouldn''t?
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
>>>> something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
>>>> feel that they are unbiased?
>>>>
>>>> BLP
>>>
>>> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
>>> shows their bias.
>>
>> Booing off air is NOT REPORTING.
>>
>> ****ing idiot.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces
>>> or away from work..
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Their product. They aren't robots.
>>
>> They aren't like you.
>>
>
> however, these same repukes complaing now would be cheering if it were
> clintons impeachment being cheered on in the fox spin room
>We`ll have another chance to impeach a Clinton if Hillary gets in!

 

[Tom Sr.]

On Aug 16, 11:54 am, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> MSNBC Newsroom Booed Bush State of the Union
> By Mark Finkelstein | August 16, 2007 - 06:36 ET


And thus they showed their intelligence and sanity and that there yet
still remains some true American citizens.

-Tom Sr.

 

[Tom Sr.]

On Aug 19, 8:18 pm, "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> "Roger" <roge...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > You do know that reporter and editor positions aren't jobs for life,
> > right?
> -
> What has that got to do with the price of beans?

What does the price of beans have to do with having sanity,
intelligent, educated reporters and editors?

Why are you so concerned about the cost of vegetable that makes you
fart? Or is that how you manage to post as many ****-smelling post
every day and you are concerned they might be soon be beyond your
income to purchase -- and then you will have nothing to say.

The fact is, you have nothing to say now that doesn't stink.

-Tom Sr.

 

[Latrodectus]

On Aug 16, 6:12 pm, "GoMavs" <M...@ericks.com> wrote:
> "Baldin Lee Pramer" <baldinpra...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1187306489.680761.7990@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Aug 16, 4:18 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 16, 9:50 am, "Tom Mason" <tm...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Who wouldn''t?
>
> >> Considering this is supposed to be an "unbiased" newsroom.........
>
> > That doesn't mean they have to give up common sense. If Bush says
> > something stupid, should they be required to shut up so that you can
> > feel that they are unbiased?
>
> > BLP
>
> They have a duty and responsibility to report without bias. This clearly
> shows their bias.
>
> They need to keep their personal opinions in their journal oped pieces or
> away from work..

This is hilarious coming from people that watch FOX News. Scarborough
is nothing BUT opinion. I give him a tad of credit, though; he's not
as bad as Tucker.