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Art Bulla
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22 I soon found, however, that my telling the story had excited a great
deal of prejudice against me among professors of religion, and was the cause
of great persecution, which continued to increase; and though I was an
obscure boy, only between fourteen and fifteen years of age, and my
circumstances in life such as to make a boy of no consequence in the world,
yet men of high standing would take notice sufficient to excite the public
mind against me, and create a bitter persecution; and this was common among
all the sects--all united to persecute me. (JS-H 1:22)
The following is my very first post on arm, which was rejected by the then
moderated soc.mormon, after which Elder Jong Kim then read and contacted me
and was baptized here in the waters of the Gulf of California here in the
Baja so. of San Felipe, after traveling across county on a Greyhound from
Tennessee.
First Post:
With hat in hand, and with due deference to the intelligence of men, I,
Art Bulla, would like to announce The Revelations of Jesus Christ, a volume
of revelations from the God of Israel, to be had in full @
http://www.artbulla.com , but more specifically in answer to the question,
"What Israel's God thinks of the Mormons", please see Section 2 which can be
downloaded for free at http://www.artbulla.com/zion/sec2.exe, virus free,
and again, no charge. I invite comments and objections and debate, which is
expected, concerning my right, and the whys and wherefores, authority, etc
to receive and deliver such to the children of men. I bring this to you in
the spirit of humility and some trepidation, for when I received my first
two written revelations a number of years ago, my hometeacher Randy O.
attacked me in his apartment at Married Student Housing at the University of
Utah, and broke my nose, and would have killed me outright had his wife not
run into the room screaming, "Randy, Randy, What are you doing?" This spirit
of fear is what Brigham Young stated was the cause of all persecution and is
the very spirit that has caused the martydom of all the Lords servants in
all ages of the world, and though blood was streaming down onto my white
shirt and tie, having returned from a meeting earlier that day, I rejoiced
and shouted for joy that I was accounted worthy to partake with the Lord of
Glory that which he also suffered at the hands of the superstitious and
over-righteous of mankind. Please have charity for me, for I come in the
spirit of fellowship and a desire to do right. Take me on, but do so with
intelligence and learning and I will respond likewise, for charity covereth
a multitude of sins, does it not? I am not lying when I say also that at a
High Council Court, held at night, that I was almost physically attacked
again by two members of said court, and so I judge righteous judgment when I
say that by their fruits ye shall know them. I end with a quote from George
Q. Cannon, 1st Counselor to Brigham Young, who stated, "The people who have
the truth are not afraid of any false doctrine or revelation. Secure in the
knowledge that God is with them they can afford to let false doctrine have
the freedom of action that God has given to every creature under heaven as
long as it does not infringe upon the rights of his fellow man. The people
who have the truth do not condescend to persecution, for if they condescend
to persecution they cease to be the people of God." The Book of Mormon
states twice and the Doctrine and Covenants once, that "Ye shall cast no one
out of your meeting which are held before the world if he is earnestly
seeking the Kingdom." I profess that I will repent if I can be shown my
error, otherwise, here I stand, I cannot recant.
Art Bulla http://www.artbulla.com "All men are liars who say they are of
the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood
of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God." Joseph Smith;
TPJS p. 376
This post however was greeted in a far different manner by the vipers and
cowards, Kevin Zoellner, but first Woody Brison with the greatest
vituperation and slander imagineable. At that time they knew absolutely
nothing about me for this post occurred in 2000, before I had any presence
on the web. Therefore what motivates such slander? It is not information
based, or based upon any knowledge whatsoever (except that I claimed the
gift of revelation), but the spirit of the devil which rages in them to
crucify the Lord afresh and put him to an open shame. This was predicted in
the BOM at the advent of the One Mighty and Strong by the following passage
in connection with the great and abominable Church:
18 But behold, that great and abominable church, the whore of all the
earth, must tumble to the earth, and great must be the fall thereof.
19 For the kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which belong to it
must needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with
his everlasting chains, and they be stirred up to anger, and perish;
20 For behold, at that day shall he rage in the hearts of the children of
men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good.
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security,
that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is
well--and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away
carefully down to hell.
22 And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no
hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none--and thus he
whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from
whence there is no deliverance.
23 Yea, they are grasped with death, and hell; and death, and hell, and
the devil, and all that have been seized therewith must stand before the
throne of God, and be judged according to their works, from whence they must
go into the place prepared for them, even a lake of fire and brimstone,
which is endless torment.
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
26 Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and
denieth the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost!
27 Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more!
28 And in fine, wo unto all those who tremble, and are angry because of
the truth of God! For behold, he that is built upon the rock receiveth it
with gladness; and he that is built upon a sandy foundation trembleth lest
he shall fall.
29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and
we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough!
30 For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of
men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little;
and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my
counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will
give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be
taken away even that which they have.
31 Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm,
or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be
given by the power of the Holy Ghost.
32 Wo be unto the Gentiles, saith the Lord God of Hosts! For
notwithstanding I shall lengthen out mine arm unto them from day to day,
they will deny me; nevertheless, I will be merciful unto them, saith the
Lord God, if they will repent and come unto me; for mine arm is lengthened
out all the day long, saith the Lord God of Hosts. (2 Ne 28:18-32)
Now one has to wonder, what is the operation on these vituperants which
produces in them this bitter fruit? It is fear, saith the Lord. The cause
of all persecution is fear. And what are they afraid of? "They tremble and
are angry lest they shall fall" are the words of the BOM, the greatest
anti-(cultural) Mormon book ever written. For the Lord saw your day and I,
saith the Lord, revealed it to my servant Moroni in the day he read the
sealed portion written by the hand of the Brother of Jared:
35 Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not.
But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.
36 And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are
none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their
hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes,
and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your
churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of
your hearts.
37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine
apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and
the needy, the sick and the afflicted.
38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for
that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are
ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that
greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never
dies--because of the praise of the world?
39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet
suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the
afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not?
40 Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and
cause that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn
before the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to
cry unto the Lord from the ground, for vengeance upon your heads?
41 Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon
cometh that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not
suffer their cries any longer. (Morm 8:35-41)
For thus saith the Lord my people aforetime went down into Egypt and
sojourned there. Now what have I here, saith the Lord, that my people is
taken away for naught? They that rule over them maketh my people to howl
every day and my name is continually blasphemed. Therefore in that day they
shall know my name, they shall know that it is I that doth speak, behold it
is I. How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth
good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good,
that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Thy
watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing:
for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. Break
forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD
hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem. The LORD hath made
bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the
earth shall see the salvation of our God. Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out
from thence, touch no unclean [thing]; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye
clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. For ye shall not go out with
haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of
Israel will be your rereward. Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he
shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. And as many were astonied
at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than
the sons of men: So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut
their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see;
and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by
power;
16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them
like as Moses led the children of Israel.
17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye
must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.
18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the
redemption of Zion be. (D&C 103:15-18)
Therefore these are just fulfilling prophecy. Jong humbled himself at that
time and these gave way to fear and the devil took power over them to bring
their souls down to destruction.
So judge my very first post. Now dear reader, read and judge for yourself
whether it is I or them who are the "nutcases"?
The Gospel of salvation is perfectly calculated to cause division. It
strikes at the root of the very existence of mankind in their wickedness,
evil designs, passions, and wicked calculations. There is no evil among the
human family, but at the foundation of which it strikes effectually, and
comes in contact with every evil passion that rises in the heart of man. It
is opposed to every evil practice of men, and consequently it disturbs them
in the wicked courses they are pursuing.
When the Gospel which was preached by Jesus and His Apostles was preached to
the children of Israel by Moses, it created the same effect among them. When
he taught them to forsake their sins, to forsake every evil principle and
practice of their lives, and turn to the Lord with all their hearts, it
created such a division that Moses could not establish the Gospel among
them, after all the kindness the Lord had shown towards them, though He
brought them out of Egypt with a high hand, dividing the sea, causing the
water to gush out of the rock to quench their thirst, manna to fall from
heaven to satisfy their hunger, and quails to satisfy their desire for
flesh. He also ordained that their clothing should not wax old, nor their
shoes wear out for the space of forty years. They did not have to plough, to
reap, or gather into barns, as we do. Notwithstanding this manifestation of
the goodness of their God, he could not establish the Gospel among them, and
was obliged to give them a law of carnal commandments. Why did not the Lord
destroy them, seeing they were so very wicked? He did; and out of all who
left Egypt, only two went into the land of Canaan-Joshua and Caleb.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 1:, p.235-236)
The world entertain certain ideas concerning truth, they entertain certain
ideas concerning God and concerning His servants, and when men come to them
with something that conflicts with these ideas, they are led to reject them,
and it is not until a man has died, not until in many instances his blood
has been shed, that he is recognized as a Prophet of God. In fact it was an
accusation of the Savior against the Jews that they garnished the tombs and
sepulchres of the Prophets whom they had slain. They slew them, but after
their death their children said, "If we had lived in their days we would not
have slain the Prophets, we would have received their testimony," while they
treated the Prophets in their midst the same as their fathers had done their
predecessors. But it takes time to bring men to esteem Prophets. It has
taken centuries to sanctify the memory of the Son of God; centuries have
rolled on before He was recognized by the world as the being whom his
disciples testified he was. To his generation he was a vile impostor, and
was counted worthy of the most ignominious death that could be inflicted-to
be crucified between two thieves. Why, they had the most irrefutable
evidence, as they supposed, that He was not the Son of God. "Can there any
good thing come out of Nazareth?" "Why," said they, "art thou also of
Galilee? Search and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no Prophet." He was a
Galilean, and therefore, because of his lowly birth and surroundings, they
deemed themselves perfectly justified in rejecting Him. And as has been
quoted to-day, so confident were they that He was not the being whom He
represented himself to be that they said, "His blood be on us and upon our
children." They felt so secure in calling for his crucifixion, they were
willing to incur al the penalties which might be inflicted upon themselves
and their posterity for the death of a man who, in their estimation, was so
vile an impostor.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 22:, p.178)
This is not a new thing in the earth, the antagonism between error and
truth, between wrong and right, between the followers of him who seeks to
usurp dominion upon the earth, and the followers of the Son of God. That
antagonism has been a perpetual one, an undying one. It cost the blood of
the best Being that ever trod the earth, even the Son of God Himself, and
all His Apostles and all the prophets-they all, with few exceptions laid
down their lives for the truth. And yet we talk about our civilization, the
enlightened nineteenth century, and we say as did the generation in which
the Savior lived: "If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not
have slain the Prophets, we would not have been guilty of shedding their
blood." This was the cry of the generation in which the Savior lived, yet
that same generation crucified Him in the most ignominious manner.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 24:, p.103)
"Woody Brison" <woody.brison@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190522225.575951.95890@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 22, 5:10 pm, "Aaron Kim" <aa...@artbulla.com> wrote:
>
>> We will be discussing the difference between true vs. false prophets.
>> Many
>> people have the false impression that sectarian ministers like Oral
>> Roberts,
>
> from Wikipedia:
>
> "In 1977 [Oral] Roberts claimed to have a vision from a
> 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith
> Medical and Research Center and the hospital would be a
> success.[citations given] In 1980, Roberts said he had a
> vision which encouraged him to continue the construction of
> his City of Faith Medical and Research Center, which opened
> in 1981. At the time, it was among the largest health
> facilities of its kind in the world and sought to merge
> prayer and medicine in the healing process. The City of
> Faith was in operation for only eight years before closing
> in late 1989."
>
> and again,
>
> "In a 2004, television broadcast of Kenneth Copeland's
> Victory in Jesus, the elder Roberts claimed to have
> experienced a vision in which "A dark cloud surrounded New
> York," purportedly a "wake up call" to tell people that
> Christ's return is soon. A transcript of this meeting is
> available online.[citation given] Roberts explicitly stated
> on several christian TV shows that this cloud would
> literally appear over New York before the end of 2005 as a
> clear sign from God."
>
> Now review Deut. 18:22.
>
>
>> Jimmy Swaggert,
>
> also from Wikipedia,
>
> "In 1986, Swaggart exposed fellow Assemblies of God
> minister Marvin Gorman, who was having an affair with one
> of his parishioners. ... As a retaliatory move, Marvin
> Gorman hired a private-detective to follow Swaggart. During
> his investigation, the detective found Swaggart in a
> Jefferson Parish, Louisiana motel on Airline Highway with
> prostitute Debra Murphree and took pictures as proof of the
> tryst.[1] Gorman presented Swaggart with the photos in a
> blackmail attempt, but Swaggart refused to pay. Gorman then
> presented the pictures to the presbytery leadership of the
> Assemblies of God, who decided that Swaggart should be
> suspended from broadcasting his television program for
> three months.
>
> "On February 21, 1988, without giving the details of his
> transgressions, Swaggart tearfully spoke to his family,
> congregation, and audience, saying, "I have sinned against
> You, my Lord, and I would ask that Your precious blood
> would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas
> of God's forgiveness."[2] Four days later on a New Orleans
> morning news show, Murphree stated that while Swaggart was
> a regular customer, they had never engaged in intercourse.
>
> "Against the ruling of the governing body of the Assemblies
> of God, Swaggart returned to his television pulpit long
> before his three-month suspension expired. He stated, "If I
> do not return to the pulpit this weekend, millions of
> people will go to hell." Believing that Swaggart was not
> genuinely repentant in not submitting to their authority,
> the Assemblies of God immediately defrocked Swaggart,
> removing his credentials and ministerial license.
>
> "On October 11, 1991, he was found in the company of
> another prostitute, Rosemary Garcia.[3] The pair was pulled
> over by the California Highway Patrol in Indio, California,
> for driving down the wrong side of the street. According to
> Garcia, Swaggart stopped to proposition her on the side of
> the road. When Garcia was asked by the patrolman why she
> was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for sex. I
> mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a
> prostitute." This time, rather than tearfully confessing to
> his congregation, Swaggart told his flock that "The Lord
> told me it's flat none of your business." His son Donnie
> then announced to the stunned audience that his father
> would be temporarily stepping down as head of Jimmy
> Swaggart Ministries for "a time of healing and counseling."
>
> "Following the scandals, Swaggart's ministry had been
> reduced by 85% as of 1995. While his ministry's annual
> revenue shrunk, his annual salary was still over $350,000
> at that time.
>
>>... Billy Graham,
>
> Billy Graham is highly respected, a friend of numerous U.S.
> Presidents and has preached to such large crowds so often
> that he probably holds the world's record. But I don't
> think he's ever claimed to be a prophet.
>
>>... etc. are true servants because they have huge
>> followers and they have fancy cathedrals.
>
> I thought this sermon was going to be about the difference
> between true and false prophets. You've changed the
> wording from prophet to servant. Anybody can be a true
> servant. To be a prophet of God is a much different thing.
>
> Roberts and Swaggart seem to be disqualified as prophets,
> and Roberts doesn't claim to be one.
>
>>... But we have learned that many of
>> these evangelists are corrupt, deceiving the flocks by soliciting
>> millions
>> of dollars only to increase their pocket book not to look after the
>> welfare
>> of Zion. Link to our radio program is at the very bottom.
>
> And then we have the false prophet Art Bulla, who seems to
> have at present just one follower - you. Why that many is a
> mystery to me.
>
>> Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Four 1839-42 Pg.205
>> The world always mistook false prophets for true ones, and those that
>> were sent of God, they considered to be false prophets and hence they
>> killed, stoned, punished and imprisoned the true prophets, and these had
>> to
>> hide themselves "in deserts and dens, and caves of the earth," and though
>> the most honorable men of the earth, they banished them from their
>> society
>> as vagabonds, whilst they cherished, honored and supported knaves,
>> vagabonds, hypocrites, impostors, and the basest of men.
>
> Bingo, Art in a nutshell. I'll refer you to
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.mormon/msg/
> cc2e942777acf1ac>
> rather than quote him. The basest of men.
>
> Wood
>
>
The Kingdom of God, or nothing.
http://www.artbulla.com
deal of prejudice against me among professors of religion, and was the cause
of great persecution, which continued to increase; and though I was an
obscure boy, only between fourteen and fifteen years of age, and my
circumstances in life such as to make a boy of no consequence in the world,
yet men of high standing would take notice sufficient to excite the public
mind against me, and create a bitter persecution; and this was common among
all the sects--all united to persecute me. (JS-H 1:22)
The following is my very first post on arm, which was rejected by the then
moderated soc.mormon, after which Elder Jong Kim then read and contacted me
and was baptized here in the waters of the Gulf of California here in the
Baja so. of San Felipe, after traveling across county on a Greyhound from
Tennessee.
First Post:
With hat in hand, and with due deference to the intelligence of men, I,
Art Bulla, would like to announce The Revelations of Jesus Christ, a volume
of revelations from the God of Israel, to be had in full @
http://www.artbulla.com , but more specifically in answer to the question,
"What Israel's God thinks of the Mormons", please see Section 2 which can be
downloaded for free at http://www.artbulla.com/zion/sec2.exe, virus free,
and again, no charge. I invite comments and objections and debate, which is
expected, concerning my right, and the whys and wherefores, authority, etc
to receive and deliver such to the children of men. I bring this to you in
the spirit of humility and some trepidation, for when I received my first
two written revelations a number of years ago, my hometeacher Randy O.
attacked me in his apartment at Married Student Housing at the University of
Utah, and broke my nose, and would have killed me outright had his wife not
run into the room screaming, "Randy, Randy, What are you doing?" This spirit
of fear is what Brigham Young stated was the cause of all persecution and is
the very spirit that has caused the martydom of all the Lords servants in
all ages of the world, and though blood was streaming down onto my white
shirt and tie, having returned from a meeting earlier that day, I rejoiced
and shouted for joy that I was accounted worthy to partake with the Lord of
Glory that which he also suffered at the hands of the superstitious and
over-righteous of mankind. Please have charity for me, for I come in the
spirit of fellowship and a desire to do right. Take me on, but do so with
intelligence and learning and I will respond likewise, for charity covereth
a multitude of sins, does it not? I am not lying when I say also that at a
High Council Court, held at night, that I was almost physically attacked
again by two members of said court, and so I judge righteous judgment when I
say that by their fruits ye shall know them. I end with a quote from George
Q. Cannon, 1st Counselor to Brigham Young, who stated, "The people who have
the truth are not afraid of any false doctrine or revelation. Secure in the
knowledge that God is with them they can afford to let false doctrine have
the freedom of action that God has given to every creature under heaven as
long as it does not infringe upon the rights of his fellow man. The people
who have the truth do not condescend to persecution, for if they condescend
to persecution they cease to be the people of God." The Book of Mormon
states twice and the Doctrine and Covenants once, that "Ye shall cast no one
out of your meeting which are held before the world if he is earnestly
seeking the Kingdom." I profess that I will repent if I can be shown my
error, otherwise, here I stand, I cannot recant.
Art Bulla http://www.artbulla.com "All men are liars who say they are of
the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood
of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God." Joseph Smith;
TPJS p. 376
This post however was greeted in a far different manner by the vipers and
cowards, Kevin Zoellner, but first Woody Brison with the greatest
vituperation and slander imagineable. At that time they knew absolutely
nothing about me for this post occurred in 2000, before I had any presence
on the web. Therefore what motivates such slander? It is not information
based, or based upon any knowledge whatsoever (except that I claimed the
gift of revelation), but the spirit of the devil which rages in them to
crucify the Lord afresh and put him to an open shame. This was predicted in
the BOM at the advent of the One Mighty and Strong by the following passage
in connection with the great and abominable Church:
18 But behold, that great and abominable church, the whore of all the
earth, must tumble to the earth, and great must be the fall thereof.
19 For the kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which belong to it
must needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with
his everlasting chains, and they be stirred up to anger, and perish;
20 For behold, at that day shall he rage in the hearts of the children of
men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good.
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security,
that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is
well--and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away
carefully down to hell.
22 And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no
hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none--and thus he
whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from
whence there is no deliverance.
23 Yea, they are grasped with death, and hell; and death, and hell, and
the devil, and all that have been seized therewith must stand before the
throne of God, and be judged according to their works, from whence they must
go into the place prepared for them, even a lake of fire and brimstone,
which is endless torment.
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
26 Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and
denieth the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost!
27 Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more!
28 And in fine, wo unto all those who tremble, and are angry because of
the truth of God! For behold, he that is built upon the rock receiveth it
with gladness; and he that is built upon a sandy foundation trembleth lest
he shall fall.
29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and
we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough!
30 For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of
men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little;
and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my
counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will
give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be
taken away even that which they have.
31 Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm,
or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be
given by the power of the Holy Ghost.
32 Wo be unto the Gentiles, saith the Lord God of Hosts! For
notwithstanding I shall lengthen out mine arm unto them from day to day,
they will deny me; nevertheless, I will be merciful unto them, saith the
Lord God, if they will repent and come unto me; for mine arm is lengthened
out all the day long, saith the Lord God of Hosts. (2 Ne 28:18-32)
Now one has to wonder, what is the operation on these vituperants which
produces in them this bitter fruit? It is fear, saith the Lord. The cause
of all persecution is fear. And what are they afraid of? "They tremble and
are angry lest they shall fall" are the words of the BOM, the greatest
anti-(cultural) Mormon book ever written. For the Lord saw your day and I,
saith the Lord, revealed it to my servant Moroni in the day he read the
sealed portion written by the hand of the Brother of Jared:
35 Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not.
But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.
36 And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are
none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their
hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes,
and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your
churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of
your hearts.
37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine
apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and
the needy, the sick and the afflicted.
38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for
that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are
ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that
greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never
dies--because of the praise of the world?
39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet
suffer the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the
afflicted to pass by you, and notice them not?
40 Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and
cause that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn
before the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to
cry unto the Lord from the ground, for vengeance upon your heads?
41 Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon
cometh that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not
suffer their cries any longer. (Morm 8:35-41)
For thus saith the Lord my people aforetime went down into Egypt and
sojourned there. Now what have I here, saith the Lord, that my people is
taken away for naught? They that rule over them maketh my people to howl
every day and my name is continually blasphemed. Therefore in that day they
shall know my name, they shall know that it is I that doth speak, behold it
is I. How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth
good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good,
that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Thy
watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing:
for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. Break
forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD
hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem. The LORD hath made
bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the
earth shall see the salvation of our God. Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out
from thence, touch no unclean [thing]; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye
clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. For ye shall not go out with
haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of
Israel will be your rereward. Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he
shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. And as many were astonied
at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than
the sons of men: So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut
their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see;
and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by
power;
16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them
like as Moses led the children of Israel.
17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye
must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm.
18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the
redemption of Zion be. (D&C 103:15-18)
Therefore these are just fulfilling prophecy. Jong humbled himself at that
time and these gave way to fear and the devil took power over them to bring
their souls down to destruction.
So judge my very first post. Now dear reader, read and judge for yourself
whether it is I or them who are the "nutcases"?
The Gospel of salvation is perfectly calculated to cause division. It
strikes at the root of the very existence of mankind in their wickedness,
evil designs, passions, and wicked calculations. There is no evil among the
human family, but at the foundation of which it strikes effectually, and
comes in contact with every evil passion that rises in the heart of man. It
is opposed to every evil practice of men, and consequently it disturbs them
in the wicked courses they are pursuing.
When the Gospel which was preached by Jesus and His Apostles was preached to
the children of Israel by Moses, it created the same effect among them. When
he taught them to forsake their sins, to forsake every evil principle and
practice of their lives, and turn to the Lord with all their hearts, it
created such a division that Moses could not establish the Gospel among
them, after all the kindness the Lord had shown towards them, though He
brought them out of Egypt with a high hand, dividing the sea, causing the
water to gush out of the rock to quench their thirst, manna to fall from
heaven to satisfy their hunger, and quails to satisfy their desire for
flesh. He also ordained that their clothing should not wax old, nor their
shoes wear out for the space of forty years. They did not have to plough, to
reap, or gather into barns, as we do. Notwithstanding this manifestation of
the goodness of their God, he could not establish the Gospel among them, and
was obliged to give them a law of carnal commandments. Why did not the Lord
destroy them, seeing they were so very wicked? He did; and out of all who
left Egypt, only two went into the land of Canaan-Joshua and Caleb.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 1:, p.235-236)
The world entertain certain ideas concerning truth, they entertain certain
ideas concerning God and concerning His servants, and when men come to them
with something that conflicts with these ideas, they are led to reject them,
and it is not until a man has died, not until in many instances his blood
has been shed, that he is recognized as a Prophet of God. In fact it was an
accusation of the Savior against the Jews that they garnished the tombs and
sepulchres of the Prophets whom they had slain. They slew them, but after
their death their children said, "If we had lived in their days we would not
have slain the Prophets, we would have received their testimony," while they
treated the Prophets in their midst the same as their fathers had done their
predecessors. But it takes time to bring men to esteem Prophets. It has
taken centuries to sanctify the memory of the Son of God; centuries have
rolled on before He was recognized by the world as the being whom his
disciples testified he was. To his generation he was a vile impostor, and
was counted worthy of the most ignominious death that could be inflicted-to
be crucified between two thieves. Why, they had the most irrefutable
evidence, as they supposed, that He was not the Son of God. "Can there any
good thing come out of Nazareth?" "Why," said they, "art thou also of
Galilee? Search and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no Prophet." He was a
Galilean, and therefore, because of his lowly birth and surroundings, they
deemed themselves perfectly justified in rejecting Him. And as has been
quoted to-day, so confident were they that He was not the being whom He
represented himself to be that they said, "His blood be on us and upon our
children." They felt so secure in calling for his crucifixion, they were
willing to incur al the penalties which might be inflicted upon themselves
and their posterity for the death of a man who, in their estimation, was so
vile an impostor.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 22:, p.178)
This is not a new thing in the earth, the antagonism between error and
truth, between wrong and right, between the followers of him who seeks to
usurp dominion upon the earth, and the followers of the Son of God. That
antagonism has been a perpetual one, an undying one. It cost the blood of
the best Being that ever trod the earth, even the Son of God Himself, and
all His Apostles and all the prophets-they all, with few exceptions laid
down their lives for the truth. And yet we talk about our civilization, the
enlightened nineteenth century, and we say as did the generation in which
the Savior lived: "If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not
have slain the Prophets, we would not have been guilty of shedding their
blood." This was the cry of the generation in which the Savior lived, yet
that same generation crucified Him in the most ignominious manner.
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 24:, p.103)
"Woody Brison" <woody.brison@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190522225.575951.95890@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 22, 5:10 pm, "Aaron Kim" <aa...@artbulla.com> wrote:
>
>> We will be discussing the difference between true vs. false prophets.
>> Many
>> people have the false impression that sectarian ministers like Oral
>> Roberts,
>
> from Wikipedia:
>
> "In 1977 [Oral] Roberts claimed to have a vision from a
> 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith
> Medical and Research Center and the hospital would be a
> success.[citations given] In 1980, Roberts said he had a
> vision which encouraged him to continue the construction of
> his City of Faith Medical and Research Center, which opened
> in 1981. At the time, it was among the largest health
> facilities of its kind in the world and sought to merge
> prayer and medicine in the healing process. The City of
> Faith was in operation for only eight years before closing
> in late 1989."
>
> and again,
>
> "In a 2004, television broadcast of Kenneth Copeland's
> Victory in Jesus, the elder Roberts claimed to have
> experienced a vision in which "A dark cloud surrounded New
> York," purportedly a "wake up call" to tell people that
> Christ's return is soon. A transcript of this meeting is
> available online.[citation given] Roberts explicitly stated
> on several christian TV shows that this cloud would
> literally appear over New York before the end of 2005 as a
> clear sign from God."
>
> Now review Deut. 18:22.
>
>
>> Jimmy Swaggert,
>
> also from Wikipedia,
>
> "In 1986, Swaggart exposed fellow Assemblies of God
> minister Marvin Gorman, who was having an affair with one
> of his parishioners. ... As a retaliatory move, Marvin
> Gorman hired a private-detective to follow Swaggart. During
> his investigation, the detective found Swaggart in a
> Jefferson Parish, Louisiana motel on Airline Highway with
> prostitute Debra Murphree and took pictures as proof of the
> tryst.[1] Gorman presented Swaggart with the photos in a
> blackmail attempt, but Swaggart refused to pay. Gorman then
> presented the pictures to the presbytery leadership of the
> Assemblies of God, who decided that Swaggart should be
> suspended from broadcasting his television program for
> three months.
>
> "On February 21, 1988, without giving the details of his
> transgressions, Swaggart tearfully spoke to his family,
> congregation, and audience, saying, "I have sinned against
> You, my Lord, and I would ask that Your precious blood
> would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas
> of God's forgiveness."[2] Four days later on a New Orleans
> morning news show, Murphree stated that while Swaggart was
> a regular customer, they had never engaged in intercourse.
>
> "Against the ruling of the governing body of the Assemblies
> of God, Swaggart returned to his television pulpit long
> before his three-month suspension expired. He stated, "If I
> do not return to the pulpit this weekend, millions of
> people will go to hell." Believing that Swaggart was not
> genuinely repentant in not submitting to their authority,
> the Assemblies of God immediately defrocked Swaggart,
> removing his credentials and ministerial license.
>
> "On October 11, 1991, he was found in the company of
> another prostitute, Rosemary Garcia.[3] The pair was pulled
> over by the California Highway Patrol in Indio, California,
> for driving down the wrong side of the street. According to
> Garcia, Swaggart stopped to proposition her on the side of
> the road. When Garcia was asked by the patrolman why she
> was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for sex. I
> mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a
> prostitute." This time, rather than tearfully confessing to
> his congregation, Swaggart told his flock that "The Lord
> told me it's flat none of your business." His son Donnie
> then announced to the stunned audience that his father
> would be temporarily stepping down as head of Jimmy
> Swaggart Ministries for "a time of healing and counseling."
>
> "Following the scandals, Swaggart's ministry had been
> reduced by 85% as of 1995. While his ministry's annual
> revenue shrunk, his annual salary was still over $350,000
> at that time.
>
>>... Billy Graham,
>
> Billy Graham is highly respected, a friend of numerous U.S.
> Presidents and has preached to such large crowds so often
> that he probably holds the world's record. But I don't
> think he's ever claimed to be a prophet.
>
>>... etc. are true servants because they have huge
>> followers and they have fancy cathedrals.
>
> I thought this sermon was going to be about the difference
> between true and false prophets. You've changed the
> wording from prophet to servant. Anybody can be a true
> servant. To be a prophet of God is a much different thing.
>
> Roberts and Swaggart seem to be disqualified as prophets,
> and Roberts doesn't claim to be one.
>
>>... But we have learned that many of
>> these evangelists are corrupt, deceiving the flocks by soliciting
>> millions
>> of dollars only to increase their pocket book not to look after the
>> welfare
>> of Zion. Link to our radio program is at the very bottom.
>
> And then we have the false prophet Art Bulla, who seems to
> have at present just one follower - you. Why that many is a
> mystery to me.
>
>> Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Four 1839-42 Pg.205
>> The world always mistook false prophets for true ones, and those that
>> were sent of God, they considered to be false prophets and hence they
>> killed, stoned, punished and imprisoned the true prophets, and these had
>> to
>> hide themselves "in deserts and dens, and caves of the earth," and though
>> the most honorable men of the earth, they banished them from their
>> society
>> as vagabonds, whilst they cherished, honored and supported knaves,
>> vagabonds, hypocrites, impostors, and the basest of men.
>
> Bingo, Art in a nutshell. I'll refer you to
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.mormon/msg/
> cc2e942777acf1ac>
> rather than quote him. The basest of men.
>
> Wood
>
>
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