Obama Moritorium on Drilling May Cost Tens of Thousands of Jobs
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timesjoke
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Have you ever had a job? Do you know what a boss is? Well Obama is the boss, he either directly or indirectly is responsible for everything done under his administration, just like Obama tries to blame everything done in the past on Bush.
But like I already said, something this huge after Obama just got done closing off all drilling in America because it was too dangerious? Oh yes, this had to be sent by Obama's desk at the lest to inform him what was in the works and give him time to object if he wanted to object.
Common sense really.
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timesjoke
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Well again your the guy seeing conspiracies where they do not exist, I hope you get the professional help you need but sadly, most of you can't see you need that help in time to keep you from hurting yourself or others.
Emkay, your such a broken record, believe what you want, you never let anything like reality get in the way of anything you have ever said in your life before now so why should this be any different?
jokersarewild
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If it's so dangerous, we need the Mexicans to do it anyway. Mind you, again, the moratorium was on deep-water drilling, so as I was saying, the story was just made up for a slow news day. "We're supporting something monetarily that Obama had nothing against. Let's write some news!"
See previous. Also, the moratorium was lifted on June 21st of this year. The story IWS posted was dated 9/11/10. So why was it news that the ban that had already been lifted by a federal judge was being subverted by the powers that be? Since, you know, you can't actually get around a non-existant ban.
timesjoke
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You do know that it is the same Gulf Of Mexico right? They will be deep-water drilling too, and if they have an accident currents will drive that spill to America anyway so why not let Americans have those jobs instead of giving them away to Mexico and even paying Mexico to take the American jobs?
I Guess Obama does not feel we need jobs here.
Why is it you know nothing about just about everything you comment on? I have to provide you with some of the most basic of information every time I turn around like you being clueless about how the Democrats blocked every attempt of the Republicans to increase regulations on the banks and Fannie/Freddie that caused the housing market meltdown?
This is really getting old constantly having to tell you things you should already know as an American, at least if you want to talk about these things you should have enough motivation to actually go out and read up on the facts first.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65O5TA20100712
Every day you prove yourself to be an uneducated kid who is more interested in shooting off his mouth than actually knowing what he is talking about.
You have a trend to defend Obama in anything he does reguardless if you understand the issue at hand or not.
jokersarewild
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http://www.bloomberg...um-illegal.html
Which, as it turns out, is still illegal, because it's basically the same thing.
Oh, and hey, back to my point:
The story was saying there was a moratorium on drilling (the one IWS posted).
Ok. The "current" moratorium isn't about water depth, it's about the type of equipment used. So he didn't ban drilling in depths over 500 feet, he just banned the equipment. Which is illegal on his part. But he didn't ban deepwater drilling.
OH HEY LOOK! None of them involve deepwater drilling anyway. Oh wow. So the story was...MADE UP FOR A SLOW NEWS DAY!? *** ****, that's amazing.
And TJ said:
Oh wait...no they won't. Not the parts Ex-Im is loaning to, anyway. I'd recommend you educate yourself before you talk down to me, because it makes you look like a moron.
timesjoke
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What are you ranting about? The "second" request to lift the new ban was not approved, the new rules was targeting deep water drilling, they even admit it has the same effect just in a different way so this story IWS offered was about how the Obama administration has taken measures to kill jobs here, but at the samr time helps finance the same kind of drilling in the Gulf for Mexican workers that we will later be paying for as well because we will be buying the oil they produce instead of being able to have our own domestic supply.
There is more to this than just the lost jobs kid, this is about the longer term harms of increasing our dependence on imported oil instead of helping us to increase our own supply.
You do know there was a simpler solution don't you?
If Obama was so concerned with safety why not lift the older ban on shallow drilling in the Gulf? If the problem was caused by America forcing drillers to drill so deep due to the regulations put in place by our Government, then avoid that danger by letting them drill at safer depths.
But that solution would have made too much sense and kept American jobs, we can't do that now can we, lol.
Hey Builder, before you try to talk smack about my replies try to remember it was you who started trying to attack me in a sexual way when you said I was buying nipple clamps, if you can't stand the reply to what you start, don't start it.
jokersarewild
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Actually, it's going to trial on the 22nd, TJ. Read the article I linked. And when it gets overturned, then deepwater drilling can begin again.
Hm. Could be. However, again, the loan doesn't go to deepwater drilling outfits. Just thought I'd reiterate.
Do tell.
http://en.wikipedia....toc_I_oil_spill
http://www.examiner.com/environmental-policy-in-national/second-oil-spill-discovered-gulf-of-mexico-as-shallow-drilling-deemed-safe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Santa_Barbara_oil_spill
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/us/03montara.html
So safe.
http://www.bloomberg...mwich-says.html
http://www.cbsnews.c...069-503544.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/energy/7033974.html
^Research.
No, not at all. Even though you fail at research so bad you refuse to acknowledge that we actually have
timesjoke
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So you were wrong, you claimed the ban was already lifted and you said what IWS posted was a non story, how about just admitting you were wrong instead of trying to save face?
And the outcome is not certain, the oil rigs are not going to just sit around waiting forever as round, after round, after round of new obsticles are tossed in their way by this Obama administration.
The loan is to a company, not a specific form of drilling kid, this company (PEMEX) does a lot of deep water drilling and there is no reason to believe they will not be deep drilling with this loan.
And again, this is more about how Obama is eliminating jobs here, while helping oil jobs get started someone else, the fact they will be drilling in the Gulf too is simply an interesting cherry on the top.
We need more of our own oil, not set in place policies and actions that make us more dependent on foreign oil.
Well as usual your not even keeping up with the conversation.
Let's try this again, the Obama administration has blocked deep drilling because of his concernes for the "greater danger" of dealing with a spill at those deapths.
Yes, spills do happen in shallow water, but they are easier to cap and deal with than the deep water drilling.
Nothing in life is 100% safe, but if Obama is so concerned with the deep water drilling he can open up the shallow drilling industry instead and provide hundreds of thousands of American jobs and at the same time provide America with a much larger domestic oil supply that increases the security of this Nation.
I would call that a win-win situation.
No, not at all. Even though you fail at research so bad you refuse to acknowledge that we actually have
I already told you then you ran around trying to gain some knowledge with last minute google searches and even your own links said the same thing I did:
Your confusing getting a permit with getting oil as well, they have to get the permit then start the process of trying to get the oil, many permits result in no oil being harvested Joker.
But look at this, 15 rigs are sitting around idle, we could have way more than 46 rigs but there is no reason to have more if the American Government will not approve permits to let them work so companies are out trying to get the oil where they are allowed to drill, and that is why we were deep drilling.
It costs a lot more to deep drill, if America would let them they would gladly turn away from deep drilling and concentrate on shallow drilling instead. So as I said, there is an easy solution if this Administration wants to make it easier to shallow drill and it has a nice side effect of employing hundreds of thousands of Americans.
Oh, all those workers will also be paying taxes, something the Government needs right now, lol.
jokersarewild
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http://www.cnsnews.c...s/article/72342
Must be great to be right, eh?
No, you said:No, not at all. Even though you fail at research so bad you refuse to acknowledge that we actually have
I already told you then you ran around trying to gain some knowledge with last minute google searches and even your own links said the same thing I did:
You said it was banned. Exact quote.
Your source for this would be...?
timesjoke
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Again, your nieve, the loans are to a company, not a specific style of oil drilling, there is nothing in the loans themselves to limit where the money can be used Joker, you fell for one of the oldest political tricks in the book, disinformation.
Look at how that fake story made you feel, that is what the progressives do to gain powerr over you, you let a irrelivent and wrong news story by a progressive news group alter reality in your mind.
You were so filled with rapture you missed the biggest painful truth they hid in that story " Because the United States accounts for a large share of Mexico’s oil exports, it is inevitable that the country will import oil produced as a result of federal loans, meaning that the U.S. federal government loaned money to the Mexican government to produce oil so that we could import it."
They loan the money to Mexico so we can buy their oil, so our tax money is taken from us to give to someone else who will then make a massive profit off of us as we buy their oil............
Why not help local companies get local oil and stop giving away our money to other Countries?
The problem is you refuse to understand how a ban like this works. It is banned, and the only way around that ban is to get special permits. These permits are not being issued fast enough because the permit process is too slow and the Government does not want to approve the permits anyway.
Stop trying to over analyse what I am saying, the deep water drilling is expensive, shallow water drilling is much, much cheeper, allowing companies to drill in shallow water will end the need for the riskier deep water drilling, but Obama does not want to free that up either so our only choice is to make our dependence on foreign oil even worse under his leadership.
The same sources you used kid, look at the quote I offered:
15 rigs are idle and can't find work, they need those permits to operate and this administration is not willing to allow them to drill, I say let them drill and make America stronger and safer in the process while giving hundreds of thousands of American good paying jobs.