Obama sing along

[timesjoke]

Oh quit the people. I'll say it again. If you don't have something nice to say don't say it. We all get the jest and TJ needs to get tougher skin. me.
You guys need to find a dog to kick or something to get your aggresion out.

lol, I am having a lot of fun with it snaf, this is exactly the same thing as the "motorboat" incident where Ali pretended it was bad just to have an excuse to flame me. Not one person thought Ali really believed a 'motorboat' was a form of opression to all women in the world as Ali said.....litterally.

IWS knew that I never really meant "all" teachers in a litteral sense, I even replied that I didn't after his first objection, my point was it may as well be "all" because those who don't.......keep their mouth shut, just like police who keep their mouth shut when they know they have an abusive fellow officer.

IWS is just missing Bender and needs someone to pick a fight with, so I was being an understanding friend and letting him get it all out.....I hope he feels better, the part that made it all worth it was watching how all the usual suspects came out of the woodwork to join in on the ********, it is just golden to watch people like Ali pretend to want the mess to end and claim she wants to keep flames off the regular forum but then makes several pure flame posts.......she is as two faced as it gets, and I laughed my *** off at how she can dish it out, but she can't take it.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Oh quit the people. I'll say it again. If you don't have something nice to say don't say it. We all get the jest and TJ needs to get tougher skin. me.
You guys need to find a dog to kick or something to get your aggresion out.

lol, I am having a lot of fun with it snaf, this is exactly the same thing as the "motorboat" incident where Ali pretended it was bad just to have an excuse to flame me. Not one person thought Ali really believed a 'motorboat' was a form of opression to all women in the world as Ali said.....litterally.
IWS knew that I never really meant "all" teachers in a litteral sense, I even replied that I didn't after his first objection, my point was it may as well be "all" because those who don't.......keep their mouth shut, just like police who keep their mouth shut when they know they have an abusive fellow officer.

IWS is just missing Bender and needs someone to pick a fight with, so I was being an understanding friend and letting him get it all out.....I hope he feels better, the part that made it all worth it was watching how all the usual suspects came out of the woodwork to join in on the ********, it is just golden to watch people like Ali pretend to want the mess to end and claim she wants to keep flames off the regular forum but then makes several pure flame posts.......she is as two faced as it gets, and I laughed my *** off at how she can dish it out, but she can't take it.

He wasn't just talking to them. Every thread keeps getting filled with the same BS. Let's try and keep the attacks and arguments at least somewhat on topic.

 

[Ahhlee]

lol, I am having a lot of fun with it snaf, this is exactly the same thing as the "motorboat" incident where Ali pretended it was bad just to have an excuse to flame me. Not one person thought Ali really believed a 'motorboat' was a form of opression to all women in the world as Ali said.....litterally.

THIS is what I said. Funny how now it has now been exaggerated to "opression(sp) to all women in the world"....litterally(sp)...???????

Motorboating should be reserved for lakes and strippers.
I'm not surprised you enjoy engaging in such a juvenille act that is meant to humiliate a woman sexually and keep her "under control". Not surpised at all.

I'm so glad that "NOT ONE" person thought I really, truly dislike the concept of motorboating. I'm sure you had "HUNDREDS OF SUPPORTIVE PM'S" backing that you, as usual, are right and know exactly what I think, perceive and feel.

Kudos to you.

And I still stand by my statement.....dumbass.

 

[timesjoke]

He wasn't just talking to them. Every thread keeps getting filled with the same BS. Let's try and keep the attacks and arguments at least somewhat on topic.

Well that is my point too BM.

IWS "COULD" have tried to discuss it calmly but go back and look at his very first post to me on this, he started tossing insults right from the start calling me a dubmass.......now I ask you, do you believe that is a fair debate method for IWS to have used?

Forget all the pile on with Ali and her followers, just concentrate on how IWS started the ball rolling and also look at my first attempts to be rational with IWS and I did not return his flames with more flames but instead tried to stay on topic and explain how I feel that even those teachers who do not directly do these things are still in on it by virture of their refusal to oppose it.

Agree with me or not I believe my point was valid for at least consideration but it was tossed aside in favor of their need to flame someone, they had not "fed" in a while and needed to chew someone up........

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Well that is my point too BM.
IWS "COULD" have tried to discuss it calmly but go back and look at his very first post to me on this, he started tossing insults right from the start calling me a dubmass.......now I ask you, do you believe that is a fair debate method for IWS to have used?

Forget all the pile on with Ali and her followers, just concentrate on how IWS started the ball rolling and also look at my first attempts to be rational with IWS and I did not return his flames with more flames but instead tried to stay on topic and explain how I feel that even those teachers who do not directly do these things are still in on it by virture of their refusal to oppose it.

Agree with me or not I believe my point was valid for at least consideration but it was tossed aside in favor of their need to flame someone, they had not "fed" in a while and needed to chew someone up........

And now it starts with me... My final comment in this thread on this matter... Yes IWS could have blah blah blah... You know who else could have?

.

.

.

????

You could have... interesting huh?

It is true.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Well that is my point too BM.
IWS "COULD" have tried to discuss it calmly but go back and look at his very first post to me on this, he started tossing insults right from the start calling me a dubmass.......now I ask you, do you believe that is a fair debate method for IWS to have used?

More lies...

http://Off Topic Forum.com/on-topic-bs/36868-obama-sing-along.html#post108716

http://Off Topic Forum.com/on-topic-bs/36868-obama-sing-along-2.html#post108722

 

[ImWithStupid]

Finstead tried to stay on topic and explain how I feel that even those teachers who do not directly do these things are still in on it by virture of their refusal to oppose it.

Which had nothing to do with my point of contention.

 

[ImWithStupid]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDaThwxR108&feature=sub]YouTube - Red Eye: Ode to Obama[/ame]

 

[timesjoke]

THIS is what I said. Funny how now it has now been exaggerated to "opression(sp) to all women in the world"....litterally(sp)...???????


I'm so glad that "NOT ONE" person thought I really, truly dislike the concept of motorboating. I'm sure you had "HUNDREDS OF SUPPORTIVE PM'S" backing that you, as usual, are right and know exactly what I think, perceive and feel.

Kudos to you.

And I still stand by my statement.....dumbass.

You said a lot more than that Ali, when I asked you why a 'motorboat' was bad to all women you said:

Humiliating your partner sexually gives you the upper hand in the relationship. Basic Psychology.

How is a 'motorboat' humiliating to a woman Ali?

The answer is it is not, while it "may" be humiliating to you to allow some give and take in shared sexual explorations, that does not mean "all" women are as sensative to keeping an iron grip over your men during ***.

And while we are at it Ali has just made a great point for me....and she didn't even understand it.

She said the "motorboat" was humiliating and kept women under control.

While she did not use the word "ALL" she didn't limit her comment either so it can easily be understood she was trying to say this was humiliating to all women and there was no way my doing this could be a pleasant sexual action for any woman.

Again we see the double standard, Ali can make a genaral claim meant to be a flame on me and that is fine but let me do it not as an attack but just as my opinion of how things are going bad in our schools and suddenly it is wrong to make a general statement.........

Hypocrites.

 

[timesjoke]

And now it starts with me... My final comment in this thread on this matter... Yes IWS could have blah blah blah... You know who else could have?

.

.

.

????

You could have... interesting huh?

It is true.

Well I was wrong about how IWS started his attacks, he called me ignorant in his first couple comments then moved to dumbass after that.

I did avoid calling him names BM, the only thing I could have done different was to run away after his first post that he called me ignorant in, is that what you believe I should have done?

I will admit I don't run away from bully tactics like what IWS started out with, he called me ignorant in his first post on purpose to start a fight. I tried to stay reasonable and explain my real meaning, but all he wanted was the fight.......how can I avoid something when no matter what I say, he was determined to flame me anyway?

If you don't want to reply here I can respect that, Ali and the rest have made this all about their hate for me anyway but I would really be interested in how you think I should handle thing like this when IWS was clearly the hostile one from his very first post, please pm me and we can discuss it in private outside of this mess.

 

[ImWithStupid]

Well I was wrong about how IWS started his attacks, he called me ignorant in his first couple comments then moved to dumbass after that.

Another misrepresentation. In the first one, I said your comment was ignorant. You can make an ignorant statement (might want to look up the definition of ignorant) without being an ignorant person.

It was then when you still didn't understand what was being said to you that I called you ignorant, and only after you still couldn't grasp the nature of the conversation did you prove that you were a dumbass.

I will admit I don't run away from bully tactics like what IWS started out with, he called me ignorant in his first post on purpose to start a fight.

No I didn't. Already addressed this one though.

If you don't want to reply here I can respect that, Ali and the rest have made this all about their hate for me anyway but I would really be interested in how you think I should handle thing like this when IWS was clearly the hostile one from his very first post, please pm me and we can discuss it in private outside of this mess.

<translation> I'm gonna take my ball and go home.

 

[Ahhlee]

The answer is it is not, while it "may" be humiliating to you to allow some give and take in shared sexual explorations, that does not mean "all" women are as sensative to keeping an iron grip over your men during ***.

Buwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Yep, I'm a total prude. You're so right! My views on sexuality are severely limited and completely narrow minded. If only an elite Aryan male would take pity on me and look past my "massive amounts of flesh" to teach me the fine, sensual arts of erotica, stimulating foreplay, the secrets to mind blowing *******, the tantalizing thrill of arousing one another slowly and deliberately to the heights of ecstasy and the point of no return.....and motorboating!!!

Yes, you should definitely feel sorry for the men who share my bed, the poor dears. My puritan techniques and iron grip leave them ALL less than satisfied with the experience.

giggles

As far as the other BS in your comment that I omitted, I may or may not address that later in the free for all. We shall see.

 

[Ahhlee]

Let's just take a look at the "safe schools czar" Kevin Jennings.
The only thing Jennings is famous for in schools for safety is for encouraging young boys into homosexuality. In his time as a school teacher and an advocate for teaching young boys about alternatave sexual lifestyles, he has been a steady critic of all religious groups and even spoke of his own drug abuse as a child like it was no big deal.

One of the groups Jennings helped to found was even revealed to be teaching specific homosexual acts to children in their school sponsored events like :

"Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's ****** or ******) often gets a bad rap....[it's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."

Now "fisting" is bad and is considered to be a "specific homosexual act"?

Interesting. That's a rather prude, limited view of "fisting" as both males and females are both capable of being fisted.....and fisting.

Hey TJ...do you like being "fisted"? If you don't, but your partner enjoyed doing it, you'd be 100% up for it right?

It's all about mutual pleasure after all.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

You said a lot more than that Ali, when I asked you why a 'motorboat' was bad to all women you said:

Humiliating your partner sexually gives you the upper hand in the relationship. Basic Psychology.

If we are talking basic psychology (I am not sure why you capitalized the B and the P in your quote.), then I could ask you if you wanted to motorboat your mother?

How is a 'motorboat' humiliating to a woman Ali?
The answer is it is not, while it "may" be humiliating to you to allow some give and take in shared sexual explorations, that does not mean "all" women are as sensative to keeping an iron grip over your men during ***.

Ohhh.... come on, TJ. A motorboat is to sexual exploration as a rusty trombone is to a marching band.

And, like flaming, humiliation is subjective. While your wife enjoys your sophomoric antics, others would say "graduate high school already." and stop basing your life on a Porky's movie.

She said the "motorboat" was humiliating and kept women under control.
While she did not use the word "ALL" she didn't limit her comment either so it can easily be understood she was trying to say this was humiliating to all women and there was no way my doing this could be a pleasant sexual action for any woman.

Again we see the double standard, Ali can make a genaral claim meant to be a flame on me and that is fine but let me do it not as an attack but just as my opinion of how things are going bad in our schools and suddenly it is wrong to make a general statement.........

Hypocrites.

Well... she did make a generalization where some women could subscribe to and others leave at the wayside. You created a statement that lumps all teachers into your statement. If you had said "teacher's unions", for example, this thread would hardly have any attention at all.

The mother of this entire argument is that you impuned ALL teachers by using the word ALL.

 

[Ahhlee]

Well... she did make a generalization where some women could subscribe to and others leave at the wayside. You created a statement that lumps all teachers into your statement. If you had said "teacher's unions", for example, this thread would hardly have any attention at all.
The mother of this entire argument is that you impuned ALL teachers by using the word ALL.

And RO seamlessly brings us back on topic.

TJ....do you honestly not see the difference between our two statements?

I said:

Motorboating should be reserved for lakes and strippers.
I'm not surprised you enjoy engaging in such a juvenille act that is meant to humiliate a woman sexually and keep her "under control". Not surpised at all.

I did not say ALL WOMEN. And I most certainly did not say "all women in the world". That little word twist and exaggeration was all your doing.

Was my statement a generalization? Yes. Did it leave zero room for exceptions? No.

You said:

Every Teacher in America would refuse to do this if it was for a conservative President, but every teacher in America is purely radical Liberal themselves and feel it is okay to brainwash little children to be brainless little robots for their political beliefs.

EVERY teacher. Absolute qualifier. Leaves no room for exception.

But there ARE exceptions. And like IWS said, even proving the existence of one exception leaves your statement void and you looking like an ignorant dumbass.

You know TJ...I think you have some good and valid points sometimes. I do! But your statements are so riddled with exaggerations, barbs, hooks, "100%" this and "Every, All, and None" that, that the actual intent behind your comments get lost because people wind up focusing on your absurd generalizations instead.

TJ, could you answer one question for me honestly? Because I'm dying to know.....do you truly not see that what you are doing leaves your arguments wide open and vulnerable to opposition or are you simply doing it to be an ***?

I really, really would love to know.

 

[snafu]

Never say never and never say all dem' people. The color of life is always gray. Motorboating for whores and boats? 1) I have a jet boat and 2) I don't think motorboating would arouse anybody. I think that would be for after play, not for play. You know motorboating sounds like a cuddling around thing and then getting the little women to get up and make some pancakes. I can think of a whole host of other erotic things to do with my spouse and not a ***** than motorboating.

The sing along....

It IS indoctrination! Period! They wanna take OUR pledge of allegiance out of the school but can praise one man that isn't a ***? I.. I.. It ****** me off to no extent.

Heil Hitler!

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Here is my fukken song of indoctrination...

From the Halls of Montezuma

To the shores of Tripoli

We fight our country's battles

In the air, on land, and sea;

First to fight for right and freedom

And to keep our honor clean;

We are proud to claim the title

Of United States Marine.

Our flag's unfurled to every breeze

From dawn to setting sun;

We have fought in every clime and place

Where we could take a gun.

In the snow of far-off Northern lands

And in sunny tropic scenes;

You will find us always on the job --

The United States Marines.

Here's health to you and to our Corps

Which we are proud to serve;

In many a strife we've fought for life

And never lost our nerve.

If the Army and the Navy

Ever look on Heaven's scenes,

They will find the streets are guarded

By United States Marines.

 

[timesjoke]

Never say never and never say all dem' people. The color of life is always gray. Motorboating for whores and boats? 1) I have a jet boat and 2) I don't think motorboating would arouse anybody. I think that would be for after play, not for play. You know motorboating sounds like a cuddling around thing and then getting the little women to get up and make some pancakes. I can think of a whole host of other erotic things to do with my spouse and not a ***** than motorboating.

My point was that Ali made it seem like there was no possible way for a motorboat to be consider "good" sexual play and in fact was oppressive to all women (she didn't use the word all but she never allowed for exception either).

My point from square one and I offered many, many examples that IWS, RO, and Ali all completely ignored was that even the teachers who turn a blind eye are just as guilty as those who directly do these things.

The sing along....

It IS indoctrination! Period! They wanna take OUR pledge of allegiance out of the school but can praise one man that isn't a ***? I.. I.. It ****** me off to no extent.

Heil Hitler!

Exactly, and not one teacher at that school complained, not one snaf, that upsets me that all of these teachers were involved in this indoctrination and the only reason any of us know about this is because the book writer who was behind some of this stuff released the video to generate chatter to help drive sales of her book.

 

[Ahhlee]

My point was that Ali made it seem like there was no possible way for a motorboat to be consider "good" sexual play

In my world, it's not. If another woman or man finds a person making childish engine noises and spraying spittle between their ******* erotic, then good on them. I find it disgusting, sophomoric, demeaning and not the least bit sexy.

and in fact was oppressive to all women

YOU said that. Not me. Those are not my words.

(she didn't use the word all but she never allowed for exception either).

Actually, yes I did. And that's why we're having this discussion, because you don't have the basic comprehension of what an absolute qualifier is.....or do you?

Seriously....please answer this:

TJ, could you answer one question for me honestly? Because I'm dying to know.....do you truly not see that what you are doing leaves your arguments wide open and vulnerable to opposition or are you simply doing it to be an ***?

I really, really would love to know.

My point from square one and I offered many, many examples that IWS, RO, and Ali all completely ignored was that even the teachers who turn a blind eye are just as guilty as those who directly do these things.

There are a lot of corrupt Republican politicians out there, TJ. Some have been jailed for their crimes. Yet you still support the Conservative party. Are you choosing to turn a blind eye to those who are abusing their political privileges? Are you then, in fact, as guilty as they?

Just wonderin.

Exactly, and not one teacher at that school complained, not one snaf, that upsets me that all of these teachers were involved in this indoctrination and the only reason any of us know about this is because the book writer who was behind some of this stuff released the video to generate chatter to help drive sales of her book.

This is one school. Even if ALL the teachers in that school were on board with the kids singing this song, that does not mean that EVERY teacher in the country would be ok with it.

Dumbass.

 

[ImWithStupid]

My point from square one and I offered many, many examples that IWS, RO, and Ali all completely ignored was that even the teachers who turn a blind eye are just as guilty as those who directly do these things.

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