Obama's Death Panel
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phreakwars
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Well, I guess all I would have to say about that, is it WOULD be a good idea, but having messages from allegedly YOU on a blog is not gonna get any message out unless you yourself are seen saying it.
Being a big hit with the internet crowd doesn't mean party success. It's just means you have a popular blog. The real test is actual interaction instead of blog comments and responses.
I know of several people (not on this site) that share a user name account but are actually a couple different people.
What's not to say Sarah Palin would not be doing the same? She obviously had speech writers helping her before. If Obama hiding behind a teleprompter is so gosh darn awful, then what type of credibility do you think one could expect hiding behind a keyboard?
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phreakwars
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ImWithStupid
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Actually you have to go back to the stimulus bill. That's where the framework was passed to establish the Tom Daschle/Great Britain style medical advisory council, so yes Pres. Obama has signed a bill making this law.
phreakwars
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Show me the bill and lines please.
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ImWithStupid
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No need. It's no longer just a bill. It's been established in law in the "stimulus package" with a panel already in place that includes Rahm Emanuel's brother...
Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research Membership
Ezekiel J. Emanuel, who wrote an article for The Hastings Center Report in 1996, in which he suggested that public deliberative forums should decide which health services should be socially guaranteed, and that those services "that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations" might be considered by this deliberative body as "basic", while "services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed". He goes on to give examples illustrating these two concepts: "not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia", (like your uncle, Phreak) while "guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason"
phreakwars
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So if it's already in the Stimulus you should be able to point out the wording for me so I can see it myself. It's already a LAW supposedly, so it MUST be on the books. I'm just asking which lines, I'm not able to find it on google anywhere, help me out. Should I try Microsoft's new BING search engine?
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ImWithStupid
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Clicky, clicky on the title of the program on my previous post.
Sorry my direct link to the law didn't help you out.
Don't know about BING, never used it.
phreakwars
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Ezekiel J. Emanuel's article is the proof? I looked on that page, I couldn't find anything about any death panels, or nothing about the Bill.
I'll look some more.... Yahoo didn't work... maybe if I searched using alta vista world translator and set my language to "chicken little".
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I'll look some more.... Yahoo didn't work... maybe if I searched using alta vista world translator and set my language to "chicken little".
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ImWithStupid
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Ezekiel J. Emanuel's article is the proof? I looked on that page, I couldn't find anything about any death panels, or nothing about the Bill.
I'll look some more.... Yahoo didn't work... maybe if I searched using alta vista world translator and set my language to "chicken little".
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All I said is to look at those in power and advising the President.
Ezikial Emanuel - We've established his view.
John Holdren - Obama science and technology advisor who along with Paul Erlich believe in the following...
Holdren is also a big supporter and fan of Peter Singer who believes that animals should have the right to human civil courts of law, and legal representation in courts and also that abortions should be allowed up to 20 days after birth and advocates for euthenasia of disabled babies.
Tom Daschle - http://Off Topic Forum.com/on-topic-bs/34832-this-really-frightens-me.html Yea, his tax cheatin' *** is still around and advising Obama.
phreakwars
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OK so they believe in that, show me the death squad policy. Come on man, you can do better then that.
So where is the SOURCE of this whole talk about death squads and what have you, I wanna know on what basis these claims are being made as FACTUAL.
I could write a column on how to make meth, does that make me a meth maker?
Replace the word meth with death.
And stay on topic, were talking about death squads, not Tom Dachle.
Your supposed to be convincing me this exists, not telling me about Dachle.
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So where is the SOURCE of this whole talk about death squads and what have you, I wanna know on what basis these claims are being made as FACTUAL.
I could write a column on how to make meth, does that make me a meth maker?
Replace the word meth with death.
And stay on topic, were talking about death squads, not Tom Dachle.
Your supposed to be convincing me this exists, not telling me about Dachle.
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ImWithStupid
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I never said anything about a death squad, in those words. I have been showing and expressing that the plan, and the idea that is being put in place is the framework for a Great Britain style council that decides who gets what health care based on certain criteria.
If you even try to deny that this is in place and that's obviously the goal, otherwise one stage wouldn't have been put in place back in the "stimulus bill" and now the rest is being put in place under the proposed health care bills, you will have no credibility other than a partisan hack.
There is no other explination why that council was put in place, but my scenerio.
There was a hiccup when Daschle was bumped as one of the many Democratic tax cheats, but it wasn't important. He moved right in with John Podesta with the Center for American Progress and meets at the White House all the time, but has no Constitutional regulations on him.
That's the only reason they didn't fight for Daschle like they did for Turbo Tax Timmy.
He could do the same thing but make more money with the CAP.
This isn't even a hidden conspiracy. It's right there in front of you.
How about a friendly bet. I'm willing to put up $100 that in 10 years there will be a Federal Bureaucracy that determines who is eligible for certain types of treatments, depending on age, disease, progression of disease, and availability.
phreakwars
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I'll only rebut the first sentence, the rest is hogwash..
YOU SHOWED ME NO PLAN WHAT SO EVER. I'm not denying anythings in place, I just want confirmation of it's existence. You haven't shown me big foot yet, just talk of it's sightings.
Even the Libertarian Hugo can easily see through that chicken little myth.
If it's already on the books, then you should have been able to rebut me by now, you can't because you keep looking and looking all over google so you can get that edge, you keep coming up short, so you back peddle a bit more, shuffle your talking point cards around a bit, try a couple more google search terms... and still... NOTHING.
Just admit defeat, you can't prove it because it doesn't exist.
Palin has taken to hiding behind a keyboard and spewing propaganda. She probably made a few contacts in Washington after McCain brought her in, that would hook her up with some decent cash for spreading their B.S., figured it was better pay and a safer bet then being a Governor, and off she goes.
She's making herself look like a crazed lunatic... but, whatever brings in the bacon I guess.
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YOU SHOWED ME NO PLAN WHAT SO EVER. I'm not denying anythings in place, I just want confirmation of it's existence. You haven't shown me big foot yet, just talk of it's sightings.
Even the Libertarian Hugo can easily see through that chicken little myth.
If it's already on the books, then you should have been able to rebut me by now, you can't because you keep looking and looking all over google so you can get that edge, you keep coming up short, so you back peddle a bit more, shuffle your talking point cards around a bit, try a couple more google search terms... and still... NOTHING.
Just admit defeat, you can't prove it because it doesn't exist.
Palin has taken to hiding behind a keyboard and spewing propaganda. She probably made a few contacts in Washington after McCain brought her in, that would hook her up with some decent cash for spreading their B.S., figured it was better pay and a safer bet then being a Governor, and off she goes.
She's making herself look like a crazed lunatic... but, whatever brings in the bacon I guess.
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ImWithStupid
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I can't prove, what is inevitable but hasn't happened yet. How about going on record and accept my wager?