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By JOAN LOWY and ADAM GOLDMAN 2010-11-16T00:56:33ZWASHINGTON (AP) -- Nearly a week before the Thanksgiving travel crush, federal air security officials were struggling to reassure rising numbers of fliers and airline workers outraged by new anti-terrorism screening procedures they consider invasive and harmful....

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I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
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The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
 
IWS said:
I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
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The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
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They need to stop being retards and not look at it as "They are subjecting muslims to special things!" Sorry, dipshits, we're all subject to it. They keep playing the "oh woe is me" card, and it's a load of crap. This isn't a religious issue.
 
IWS said:
I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
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http://www.cnsnews.c...re-come-body-pa

The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
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Hell, they are some of the #1s that should be searched and scanned.... In fact, EXTRA searched and scanned.
 
Chi said:
IWS said:
I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
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http://www.cnsnews.c...re-come-body-pa

The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
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Hell, they are some of the #1s that should be searched and scanned.... In fact, EXTRA searched and scanned.
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Why? We would be singling them out, and giving them exactly the kind of ammunition they need to MAKE it a racial/religious issue.

Also, they shouldn't be subject to anything others aren't subject to. That's discrimination.
 
jokersarewild said:
Chi said:
IWS said:
I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
Click to expand...
http://www.cnsnews.c...re-come-body-pa

The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
Click to expand...


Hell, they are some of the #1s that should be searched and scanned.... In fact, EXTRA searched and scanned.
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Why? We would be singling them out, and giving them exactly the kind of ammunition they need to MAKE it a racial/religious issue.

Also, they shouldn't be subject to anything others aren't subject to. That's discrimination.
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You do know Middle Eastern people are already being singled out and extra searched for a long time now and with good reason right? When I used to work for United we were straight up told of this. The "random search lottery" feature on the computer system is programmed to choose Middle Eastern sounding names to "randomly" search. And many of these people knew this already because they mentioned to me that they didn't buy that this was a "random" search cuz the computer system just happened to choose them at all the other airports they had to travel thru or always do when they travel. The system also chooses people who pay with cash, buy a one way ticket or buy a ticket last minute.
 
Chi said:
jokersarewild said:
Chi said:
IWS said:
I rarely cry BS, but if it's called for, this is BS...



When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be “adjustments” and “more to come” on the issue.

“On the pat downs, CAIR [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] has recommended that Muslim women wearing hijabs refuse to go through the full body pat downs before boarding planes,” CNSNews.com asked Napolitano at a Monday press conference. “Will you insist that they do go through full body pat downs before boarding planes?”

“Look, we have, like I said before, we are doing what we need to do to protect the traveling public and adjustments will be made where they need to be made,” Napolitano responded. “With respect to that particular issue, I think there will be more to come. But, again, the goal here, you know, we’re not doing this just to do it.
Click to expand...
http://www.cnsnews.c...re-come-body-pa

The fukkin' gall Muslims have.

They honestly asked that Muslim women not be subject to the same checks at airports that old women and children are made to endure.

To add, the Obama Administration and the ongoing joke of a Homeland Security Secretary that exists as Janet, open borders in Arizona, Napolitano, is concerned. Who thought otherwise?
Click to expand...


Hell, they are some of the #1s that should be searched and scanned.... In fact, EXTRA searched and scanned.
Click to expand...

Why? We would be singling them out, and giving them exactly the kind of ammunition they need to MAKE it a racial/religious issue.

Also, they shouldn't be subject to anything others aren't subject to. That's discrimination.
Click to expand...

You do know Middle Eastern people are already being singled out and extra searched for a long time now and with good reason right? When I used to work for United we were straight up told of this. The "random search lottery" feature on the computer system is programmed to choose Middle Eastern sounding names to "randomly" search. And many of these people knew this already because they mentioned to me that they didn't buy that this was a "random" search cuz the computer system just happened to choose them at all the other airports they had to travel thru or always do when they travel. The system also chooses people who pay with cash, buy a one way ticket or buy a ticket last minute.
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It's still discrimination, whether it's "already being done" or not. It's not right, and it's not ONLY middle easterners who are/can be terrorists. Search the hell out of all of us and make it REALLY random.

Perhaps we should focus on finding terrorists instead of muslims :p
 
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From the desk of Janet Napolitano:

Re: Recruitment and training of TSA airport screeners.

It has come to my attention that some of our TSA employees have expressed a certain amount of discomfort with the use of full-body scans and the accompanying "grope the rope" or "press the chest" searches that are mandatory for those opting out of our high-powered (but perfectly safe) X-ray machines. While I appreciate that the use of any new technology may be somewhat disconcerting at first, it is our obligation to make sure that we perform our assigned function flawlessly, without regard for our personal feelings for the manner in which we conduct ourselves on the job.

To expedite this flawless function, I am immediately implementing the following hiring and training policies for our personnel. Please be advised that Attorney General Eric Holder has reviewed these policies and assures me that they are both legal and Constitutional, and that President Obama has personally expressed to me his full support for these policies.

1) In all future background checks, we will now give preference to individuals who have arrest and/or conviction records for such offenses as indecent exposure, voyeurism and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. It is the finding of our psychology department that these individuals will be far less likely to flinch from performing their required duties while taking nude X-ray pictures and feeling up passengers. Additionally, any individual who has been successfully sued for sexual harassment should be given preference in the hiring process, especially if the harassment in question involved "inappropriate" touching. It is the finding of this office that such individuals have the moxie to do what needs to be done to accomplish our mission. Finally, extra preference should be given to any individual who meets the above criteria AND is sexually oriented towards members of his/her own gender. It is our belief that these individuals will be highly motivated to provide an extra-thorough touch to their job performance.

2) For those screeners who still blanch at doing their duty for their country due to "moral scruples" or other such nonsense, our psychologists have developed a training regimen which they assure me will bring them around in a hurry. These screeners will be required to view no fewer than four (4) consecutive hours of same-sex pornography (the gender of the performers will be the same as the gender of the TSA screener) at least twice a week. It is the view of our psychologists that repeated exposure to this material will, over time, break down these screeners reluctance to "get a grip" on their job duties, and thus improve their performance.

3) As per our previous guidelines, please be aware that the following groups are considered especially dangerous, and should receive extra attention from our new screening procedures:
a) U.S. military personnel returning from war zones or headed to war zones.
B) Individuals wearing garb readily identifiable as christian clergy.
c) Individuals sporting any button, decal, t-shirt, hat, logo, etc. identifying themselves as members of the "Tea Party" movement.
d) Elderly or disabled persons using metallic walkers, canes or braces of any sort.
e) Boy Scouts.

4) As per previous guidelines, please be aware that any individual wearing readily identifiable Muslim garb is NOT to be subjected to this screening process for ANY reason. This process is, of course, highly objectionable to practitioners of the peaceable religion of Islam, and could well be construed as profiling. Any TSA screener found to have coerced or attempted to coerce any Muslim to submit to these screening procedures is subject to immediate termination and criminal prosecution.

I hope and expect these new recruitment tools and training tips will be of the utmost value in carrying out our ongoing mission. Remember, only you can prevent profiling.

Sincerely,

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano
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http://beautifulletters-bls.blogspot.com/2010/11/tsa-announces-new-screener-recruitment.html
 
jokersarewild said:
[Also, they shouldn't be subject to anything others aren't subject to. That's discrimination.
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Bullshit, it is a fact, not a theory, that Arabic males are more likely to engage in terrorism, You have to keep a closer eye on them.
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/23/airport_security_108037.html

The concluding paragraphs on the above link:

What do the Israeli airport security people do that American airport security do not do? They profile. They question some individuals for more than half an hour, open up all their luggage and spread the contents on the counter-- and they let others go through with scarcely a word. And it works.

Meanwhile, this administration is so hung up on political correctness that they have turned "profiling" into a bugaboo. They would rather have electronic scanners look under the clothes of nuns than to detain a Jihadist imam for some questioning.

Will America be undermined from within by an administration obsessed with political correctness and intoxicated with the adolescent thrill of exercising its new-found powers? Stay tuned.
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Yes, profile all of the brown people. I'm sure that will have no ill effects whatsoever. Then the brown people will recruit the white people. Then you have to profile the white people! But the white people won't stand for such things, since we're white and privelaged and the like.

Don't profile. Either do it completely randomly, or check everyone with the same throughness.
 
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