Race War, the real Cold War

tizz

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You actually amuse me as do all the blokes who feel a need to call me liberal. Friends get a kick out of it too. True I have lieberal ideas on some issues but I also have extremely conservative issues with others. It is simply your need to put labels on things in order to deal with them. You must be a man, only men are so black and white with everything LOL
 

fullauto

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You actually amuse me as do all the blokes who feel a need to call me liberal. Friends get a kick out of it too. True I have lieberal ideas on some issues but I also have extremely conservative issues with others. It is simply your need to put labels on things in order to deal with them. You must be a man, only men are so black and white with everything LOL
I really hope you don't think calling me a man is an insult of sorts... Men built this world, and it is men who guard and protect it... I am neither party... My ideas range all over the spectrum, but I am offended to think that people who are supposed to be well informed are blinded by what they see and hear on TV... The world is not black and white, but we had better get used to pointing the finger at people regardless of thier so called delicate sensabilities! can you not see what is going on around you... Has the matrix got such a hold on you that you beleive that every person on earth is created equal? Cmon.... I have more faith in Americans than that... Not everyone is equal... It's not a racial thing... it's a people thing! Some people are born with better atributes than others... It's a fact! There are people in Africa with a natural immunity to Aids! I bet you they will have a clutch on the next generation of people in Africa... Surelly you don't believe this Communist **** that we are all equal... Christ, I can admit that I am not the pinicle of human existance... I have my strong points sure, but surely I am not as genetically well off as others...

 

tizz

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I will admit that when I was young many of my ideals came from outside sources. Then I decided I wanted to know first hand so I went to find out. What I have said here is what I went and found out. Then I studied a little on asked a lot of questions and looked deeply at teh problems and the solutions as they are attempted now. I don'tbeliev ethe world is equal, I believe affirmative action has turned out to do more harm than good, but I also believe that there are logical solutions to problems that are not going away by themselves or with bandaids.
 

fullauto

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I will admit that when I was young many of my ideals came from outside sources. Then I decided I wanted to know first hand so I went to find out. What I have said here is what I went and found out. Then I studied a little on asked a lot of questions and looked deeply at teh problems and the solutions as they are attempted now. I don'tbeliev ethe world is equal, I believe affirmative action has turned out to do more harm than good, but I also believe that there are logical solutions to problems that are not going away by themselves or with bandaids.
My question is, at what point do you wash your hands of it and just call it as you see it, and not let blame redirection take place... Christ, Blame redirection should be a ******* Olympic event in this country... But the ACLU would dominate... not worth it...

 

tizz

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After seing this country and going into some of the most depressed area of it, I came home and decided that it was not finding blame that would change the reality but finding answers that were more than a bandaid on the problem to create an illusion for society and the rest of us could be conned into thinking it was getting better. I asked questioned and looked at what was being done and why it wasn't working. Throwing money at teh problem really does nothing. I try to be as logical as I can and not quite place blame but to find teh problems and attempt real answers. I don't claim to have all answers but I know what is being done now is doing nothing to solve the real problems. I am not about the ACLU as they take things to an extreme now and that will never help. I will never wash my hands of it, and that is probably because I am very poor and if it weren't for family helping me out I know for a fact that I would have to resort to raising my child in a **** enviornment and that scares teh **** out of me. (so does the fact that I cannot seem to type T H E instead of teh dammit) I actuallly DO want my child to have a better world to deal with when she is older and I want that for all children. It doesn't help is only the privelaged have a better world. FOr society as a whole to change, the world has to get better for everyone.
 

fullauto

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After seing this country and going into some of the most depressed area of it, I came home and decided that it was not finding blame that would change the reality but finding answers that were more than a bandaid on the problem to create an illusion for society and the rest of us could be conned into thinking it was getting better. I asked questioned and looked at what was being done and why it wasn't working. Throwing money at teh problem really does nothing. I try to be as logical as I can and not quite place blame but to find teh problems and attempt real answers. I don't claim to have all answers but I know what is being done now is doing nothing to solve the real problems. I am not about the ACLU as they take things to an extreme now and that will never help. I will never wash my hands of it, and that is probably because I am very poor and if it weren't for family helping me out I know for a fact that I would have to resort to raising my child in a **** enviornment and that scares teh **** out of me. (so does the fact that I cannot seem to type T H E instead of teh dammit) I actuallly DO want my child to have a better world to deal with when she is older and I want that for all children. It doesn't help is only the privelaged have a better world. FOr society as a whole to change, the world has to get better for everyone.
You are obviously NOT part of the problem group... Yes, you are poor... But instead of being out there shooting people and selling drugs, you are on a computer learning and reading! With that attitude, you desearve all the help society can afford... But MOST of these ******* people just want a check! regardless of whether or not they desearve it... Why can't we take the checks away from them and give them to people like you! People who CARE about how there children grow up... People who TRY to make things better instead of making them worse! Some people are just not worth helping... **** em....

 

Vortex

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You are obviously NOT part of the problem group... Yes, you are poor... But instead of being out there shooting people and selling drugs, you are on a computer learning and reading! With that attitude, you desearve all the help society can afford... But MOST of these ******* people just want a check! regardless of whether or not they desearve it... Why can't we take the checks away from them and give them to people like you! People who CARE about how there children grow up... People who TRY to make things better instead of making them worse! Some people are just not worth helping... **** em....

But how do you police that? Really?

How do you discern poor,lazy, and could give a rats ***...... from poor and doing everything in their power to change and educate themselves?

Even the dumbass lazy ***** can fake it...and the educated fools writing the checks cant tell the difference.....

The ones that deserve the "check" dont always get it because they are actually trying (and usually miss getting it because they are barely above the critera)......

So that gives the logic, why try when its handed out indescrimately?

Put me in charge of it....ill interview and watch every person personally....i can cut that budget it half, or more!....Unfortunately im only one person and FAR too many undeserving are getting "checks" for me to squelch!.....

Perhaps after 2 kids the "incentives" stop?!?!? That might help some...right?

(now i only read a post or 2 above...and only caught the first few posts on this topic...so if im out of line and make no sence...keep these in mind........and the fact that im a little drunk! but sane enough to comment on the last few posts...okay)

 

tizz

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You are obviously NOT part of the problem group... Yes, you are poor... But instead of being out there shooting people and selling drugs, you are on a computer learning and reading! With that attitude, you desearve all the help society can afford... But MOST of these ******* people just want a check! regardless of whether or not they desearve it... Why can't we take the checks away from them and give them to people like you! People who CARE about how there children grow up... People who TRY to make things better instead of making them worse! Some people are just not worth helping... **** em....

The only reason I am not on welfare is because my family could help me out. I really didn't want to go there because it is a trap. If you make too much you loose welfare but still do not have enough to pay rent. As it is, if I make more than $11500 I loose health insurance for my kid. I tis really hard to make your way out of the system. It is more a trap than a helping hand. If I start thinking that a person is not worth helping for any reason then what if they have children, what of their neighbors. I can't become selective because then everyone looses all over again

 

_Wow

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Well, the poor are usually forced by economy to live in less desireable neighborhoods and with **** *** schools, Few businesses want to open in teh area so few jobs are available. People get deserate and commit crime and so the cycle continues, and that goes for any nationlity. I never said the numbers were wrong, just selective and missing a **** of a lot of information.
Actually, I must side with fullauto on this as well. West Virginia is the whitest state in the union. It is also one of the poorest. It is also one of the least crime ridden. This little state shatters all of the socioeconomic excuses that the appologetic Marxists have created.

 

tizz

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Not killing me, I am just having a huge brthday party for my daughter today and I just haven't been able to think about this one at all.
 

fullauto

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Well let's have it... Most people here know my position. I defended it, and I've altered it when it's PROVEN to be inacurate on key points... but, we all know what it is...

Let's hear Tizz's oppinion on what some key issues that I feel will be a problem in the future... You, like me like to type... so here are some ?'s

1. What is the future of race relations in this country in the next 25 years

2. What is the future of socialist programs such as welfare in the next 25 years

3. what is the future of education in the next 25 years

4. what is the future of the US in the next 25 years.. economically and statistically

We all know my position, let's hear yours... :D

 

tizz

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Well let's have it... Most people here know my position. I defended it, and I've altered it when it's PROVEN to be inacurate on key points... but, we all know what it is...
Let's hear Tizz's oppinion on what some key issues that I feel will be a problem in the future... You, like me like to type... so here are some ?'s

1. What is the future of race relations in this country in the next 25 years

2. What is the future of socialist programs such as welfare in the next 25 years

3. what is the future of education in the next 25 years

4. what is the future of the US in the next 25 years.. economically and statistically

We all know my position, let's hear yours... :D
Before I answer those questions I would really like to think about them and I would also like to know if you are looking for my opinion based on where we are now and where I think it will go? Or are you looking more for how I would change things (realistically) and where I think we would end up after making those changes?

 

tizz

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PS there is no way I answering tonight, my head is freaking spinning after birthday day and I am tired as ****!!!! I need a REALLY BIG drink!
 
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