Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rustock.g

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Barkimmy

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Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rusto

When I replied to the post I realized that the original poster had made

his/her question in 2 or more parts. As his/her W32/Rustock question had been

answered, and I had not run across that as of yet, I didn't see any reason

for me to answer that part. But I did notice that his/her question about not

being able to install some updates had not been answered yet. I had run

across that one, on several computers, each with different updates being

obstinate and each coming up with a different error code. I was able to

manually download and install the troublesome updates and solved that problem

on each computer that I found it on.

--

When you have 15 grandchildren you don''t let a persnickity obnoxious

computer get you down. There are times I wish I could just reboot the kids,

though.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

> A few points to add to my colleague Malke's comments:

>

> The person who started this thread (Original Poster or OP) and who was

> having the problem (possibly due to a Win32/Rustock.gen!C infection; cf.

> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.p...5a61b8d82f36160)

> hasn't been heard from since mid-August 2007, so there's little chance he'll

> see your reply offering assistance.

>

> It's highly unlikely that the OP would not have been able to successfully

> install anything downloaded from the Windows Update Catalog (KB323166). And

> in any event, he needed to get Windows fixed, not just install a few

> updates.

>

> A machine infected by a W32/Rustock-variant would most likely have other

> infections (e.g., Zlob; SDBot; Vundo), all of which affect Windows, not just

> updating. Expert assistance would be required and many steps would need to

> be taken in order to get the machine clean so that updating can take place;

> e.g., http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofiversion/...php/t97116.html

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

>

> Barkimmy wrote:<span style="color:green">

> > I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread

> > looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would

> > this one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query,

> > (search). Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I

> > misunderstood you. After all, you found your way here after all this

> > time,too. I apologize if I did something inappropriate on this site. I

> > just

> > figured a thread still readable, and not fully answered, was a thread

> > still

> > open. Let me know if I was wrong. I am still new to this site.

> ><span style="color:darkred">

> >> [This thread is from Aug-07]

> >>

> >> Barkimmy wrote:

> >>> I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently

> >>> this

> >>> has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on.

> >>> The

> >>> fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers

> >>> with

> >>> the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the

> >>> error

> >>> codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update

> >>> (or

> >>> several) fail to install.

> >>>

> >>> First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view

> >>> your

> >>> update history. There you will find any and all updates that have

> >>> failed.

> >>> Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with

> >>> the

> >>> x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write

> >>> this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.

> >>>

> >>> Then take your KB numbers to:

> >>>

> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166

> >>>

> >>> Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds

> >>> and

> >>> it worked great for me several times.

> >>>

> >>> I hope this helps.

> >>>

> >>>>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates

> >>>>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the

> >>>>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could

> >>>>>>> not

> >>>>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit

> >>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other

> >>>>>>> updates

> >>>>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying

> >>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete

> >>>>>>> out

> >>>>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still

> >>>>>>> doesn't

> >>>>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this

> >>>>>>> on

> >>>>>>> another computer provided by work.

> >>>>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick

> >>>>>>> at

> >>>>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install

> >>>>>>> Linux,

> >>>>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really

> >>>>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.

> >>>>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest

> >>>>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up

> >>>>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.

> >>>>>>> HELP!

> >>>>>> --

> >>>>>> ====================================

> >>>>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia

> >>>>>> ====================================

> >>>>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/

> >>>>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all

> >>>>>> may benefit. </span></span>

>

> </span>

 
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BoaterDave

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Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rusto

Thanks for responding Max - nice of you to 'pop in'! style_emoticons/

I found someone else with your name, here: http://maxwachtel.blog.com/

Dave

--------------------------------------- (better?)

"What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message

news:Xns9A64EEC02D751whatsinaname@207.46.248.16...<span style="color:blue">

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came up

> with this jewel in news:uGk0zJBiIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

><span style="color:green">

>> A fascinating insight into how matters may be construed by some,

>> Richard! I was pleased to hear that you have erradicated your

>> malware without the need for the procedures carried out by

>> 'Banwar' on the SWI forum, cited as an example by PA Bear.</span>

>

> You're not trolling for Bear, are you dave?

><span style="color:green">

>> I was impressed by Barkimmy (a fellow granddad!) taking the time

>> and trouble to try to help.</span>

>

> Chances were good that it was a waste of bandwidth since many posters

> do not "take the time and trouble" to follow-up.

><span style="color:green">

>> Malke responded (I believe Malke is

>> female) with an array of 'links' to other sites. I'd bet real

>> money that Richard and/or Barkimmy clicked on one or more of those

>> links without giving it a second thought. I once had a notion</span>

>

> I'll bet those two brain cells were ****** off!!!

><span style="color:green">

>> that, as this place has Microsoft in its name, someone would be

>> policing same. As far as I know, this is NOT so - no-one is

>> responsible for checking that links placed here take one to a

>> 'safe' place. A wonderful opportunity for 'the bad guys' to prey

>> upon innocent folk, eh?</span>

>

> This is a free, public forum. Even you are allowed to post here.

> Messages are not "approved" before posting but some have been removed

> from the MS servers for "bad" content and still remain on other

> servers.

>

><span style="color:green">

>> Here is the signature block of PA Bear, taken from AumHa.net:-

>>

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> AumHa VSOP, Admin & Moderator; MS MVP-Internet Explorer, Mail,

>> Consumer Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> Steely-eyed Missile Man, Sensei, Mule Skinner & Smart Alex</span>

>

> and what is your sig? troll wanabe????

><span style="color:green">

>>

>>

>> Wlth so many folk visiting AumHa for assistance with Malware

>> erradication, I cannot help wondering why Robear cited a

>> Spywareinfo site for his example, rather than one from AumHa.</span>

>

> Could be simple, it was the first entry using google?

><span style="color:green">

>> Perhaps Robear will explain why we should trust others when they

>> tell us to download 'unknown' programmes onto our machines without

>> us having any idea what effect they might have.</span>

>

> Who to trust? An age-old question.(or is that old-age)

><span style="color:green">

>>

>> Dave</span>

>

> is this supposed to be some kind of delimiter????<span style="color:green">

>>

>> </span>

><span style="color:green">

>> "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote in message

>> news:9933CFEF-CA4D-49F3-928B-94DCA4A21F7A@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>>> Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original poster

>>> is still around and did read your posts - thank you.

>>> Largely now overtaken by events.

>>> I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my

>>> installation from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.

>>> Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but

>>> have opted out

>>> of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have

>>> their own browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at

>>> present) with IE7. Richard</span>

>>

>> <snip></span>

>

> max

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What's in a Name?

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Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rusto

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came up

with this jewel in news:uI5m5dMiIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

<span style="color:blue">

> Thanks for responding Max - nice of you to 'pop in'! style_emoticons/

>

> I found someone else with your name, here:

> http://maxwachtel.blog.com/ </span>

That's what we need in this family-less attorneys and more doctors.

<span style="color:blue">

>

> Dave

>

> --------------------------------------- (better?)</span>

No. A good delimiter looks like this

--

Get it now?

A proper newsreader will strip everything below it when repling.

If you must use Outlook Express,this tool will help-

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

<span style="color:blue">

>

> "What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in

> message news:Xns9A64EEC02D751whatsinaname@207.46.248.16...<span style="color:green">

>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came

>> up with this jewel in news:uGk0zJBiIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> A fascinating insight into how matters may be construed by some,

>>> Richard! I was pleased to hear that you have erradicated your

>>> malware without the need for the procedures carried out by

>>> 'Banwar' on the SWI forum, cited as an example by PA Bear.</span>

>>

>> You're not trolling for Bear, are you dave?

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> I was impressed by Barkimmy (a fellow granddad!) taking the time

>>> and trouble to try to help.</span>

>>

>> Chances were good that it was a waste of bandwidth since many

>> posters do not "take the time and trouble" to follow-up.

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> Malke responded (I believe Malke is

>>> female) with an array of 'links' to other sites. I'd bet real

>>> money that Richard and/or Barkimmy clicked on one or more of

>>> those links without giving it a second thought. I once had a

>>> notion </span>

>>

>> I'll bet those two brain cells were ****** off!!!

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> that, as this place has Microsoft in its name, someone would be

>>> policing same. As far as I know, this is NOT so - no-one is

>>> responsible for checking that links placed here take one to a

>>> 'safe' place. A wonderful opportunity for 'the bad guys' to prey

>>> upon innocent folk, eh?</span>

>>

>> This is a free, public forum. Even you are allowed to post here.

>> Messages are not "approved" before posting but some have been

>> removed from the MS servers for "bad" content and still remain on

>> other servers.

>>

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> Here is the signature block of PA Bear, taken from AumHa.net:-

>>>

>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>> AumHa VSOP, Admin & Moderator; MS MVP-Internet Explorer, Mail,

>>> Consumer Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>> Steely-eyed Missile Man, Sensei, Mule Skinner & Smart Alex</span>

>>

>> and what is your sig? troll wanabe????

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>>

>>>

>>> Wlth so many folk visiting AumHa for assistance with Malware

>>> erradication, I cannot help wondering why Robear cited a

>>> Spywareinfo site for his example, rather than one from AumHa.</span>

>>

>> Could be simple, it was the first entry using google?

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> Perhaps Robear will explain why we should trust others when they

>>> tell us to download 'unknown' programmes onto our machines

>>> without us having any idea what effect they might have.</span>

>>

>> Who to trust? An age-old question.(or is that old-age)

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>>

>>> Dave</span>

>>

>> is this supposed to be some kind of delimiter????<span style="color:darkred">

>>>

>>> </span>

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>> wrote in message

>>> news:9933CFEF-CA4D-49F3-928B-94DCA4A21F7A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original

>>>> poster is still around and did read your posts - thank you.

>>>> Largely now overtaken by events.

>>>> I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my

>>>> installation from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.

>>>> Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but

>>>> have opted out

>>>> of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have

>>>> their own browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at

>>>> present) with IE7. Richard

>>>

>>> <snip></span></span></span>

max

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BoaterDave

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Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rusto

OK Max - I appreciate your help.

For others looking in:-

OE-QuoteFix will extend the functionality of MS Outlook Express in numerous

ways! Its main purpose is to modify message composition windows on-the-fly

to allow for correct quoting and to change the appearance of your plain-text

replies and forwards in general: move your signature, use compressed

indentation, have RFC compliant signatures, etc.

But the second feature is equally practical: OE-QuoteFix can instantly color

quoted passages (according to the level of indentation), fix bad quoting and

generally beautify messages as you view them in Outlook Express.

Dave

-- (better now?)

"What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message

news:Xns9A6565B256311whatsinaname@207.46.248.16...<span style="color:blue">

> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came up

> with this jewel in news:uI5m5dMiIHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

><span style="color:green">

>> Thanks for responding Max - nice of you to 'pop in'! style_emoticons/

>>

>> I found someone else with your name, here:

>> http://maxwachtel.blog.com/</span>

>

> That's what we need in this family-less attorneys and more doctors.

><span style="color:green">

>>

>> Dave

>>

>> --------------------------------------- (better?)</span>

>

> No. A good delimiter looks like this

>

> --

>

> Get it now?

>

> A proper newsreader will strip everything below it when repling.

> If you must use Outlook Express,this tool will help-

> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

><span style="color:green">

>>

>> "What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in

>> message news:Xns9A64EEC02D751whatsinaname@207.46.248.16...<span style="color:darkred">

>>> "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came

>>> up with this jewel in news:uGk0zJBiIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>>>

>>>> A fascinating insight into how matters may be construed by some,

>>>> Richard! I was pleased to hear that you have erradicated your

>>>> malware without the need for the procedures carried out by

>>>> 'Banwar' on the SWI forum, cited as an example by PA Bear.

>>>

>>> You're not trolling for Bear, are you dave?

>>>

>>>> I was impressed by Barkimmy (a fellow granddad!) taking the time

>>>> and trouble to try to help.

>>>

>>> Chances were good that it was a waste of bandwidth since many

>>> posters do not "take the time and trouble" to follow-up.

>>>

>>>> Malke responded (I believe Malke is

>>>> female) with an array of 'links' to other sites. I'd bet real

>>>> money that Richard and/or Barkimmy clicked on one or more of

>>>> those links without giving it a second thought. I once had a

>>>> notion

>>>

>>> I'll bet those two brain cells were ****** off!!!

>>>

>>>> that, as this place has Microsoft in its name, someone would be

>>>> policing same. As far as I know, this is NOT so - no-one is

>>>> responsible for checking that links placed here take one to a

>>>> 'safe' place. A wonderful opportunity for 'the bad guys' to prey

>>>> upon innocent folk, eh?

>>>

>>> This is a free, public forum. Even you are allowed to post here.

>>> Messages are not "approved" before posting but some have been

>>> removed from the MS servers for "bad" content and still remain on

>>> other servers.

>>>

>>>

>>>> Here is the signature block of PA Bear, taken from AumHa.net:-

>>>>

>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>> AumHa VSOP, Admin & Moderator; MS MVP-Internet Explorer, Mail,

>>>> Consumer Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>> Steely-eyed Missile Man, Sensei, Mule Skinner & Smart Alex

>>>

>>> and what is your sig? troll wanabe????

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Wlth so many folk visiting AumHa for assistance with Malware

>>>> erradication, I cannot help wondering why Robear cited a

>>>> Spywareinfo site for his example, rather than one from AumHa.

>>>

>>> Could be simple, it was the first entry using google?

>>>

>>>> Perhaps Robear will explain why we should trust others when they

>>>> tell us to download 'unknown' programmes onto our machines

>>>> without us having any idea what effect they might have.

>>>

>>> Who to trust? An age-old question.(or is that old-age)

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dave

>>>

>>> is this supposed to be some kind of delimiter????

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>> "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>> wrote in message

>>>> news:9933CFEF-CA4D-49F3-928B-94DCA4A21F7A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original

>>>>> poster is still around and did read your posts - thank you.

>>>>> Largely now overtaken by events.

>>>>> I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my

>>>>> installation from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.

>>>>> Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but

>>>>> have opted out

>>>>> of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have

>>>>> their own browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at

>>>>> present) with IE7. Richard

>>>>

>>>> <snip></span></span>

> max

> --

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> </span>

 
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What's in a Name?

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Re: repeated crashes and failure to update ... is this Win32/Rusto

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came up

with this jewel in news:#nbBg#SiIHA.4764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

<span style="color:blue">

> OK Max - I appreciate your help.

>

> For others looking in:-

>

> OE-QuoteFix will extend the functionality of MS Outlook Express in

> numerous ways! Its main purpose is to modify message composition

> windows on-the-fly to allow for correct quoting and to change the

> appearance of your plain-text replies and forwards in general:

> move your signature, use compressed indentation, have RFC

> compliant signatures, etc. But the second feature is equally

> practical: OE-QuoteFix can instantly color quoted passages

> (according to the level of indentation), fix bad quoting and

> generally beautify messages as you view them in Outlook Express.

>

> Dave

>

> -- (better now?)</span>

snip

Yes and no. You put the delimiter in the wrong place(it should be at

the end of your message,above your sig) and you put your reply above

the quoted material instead of below. If you need some assistance,let

me know.

max

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