Re: Ugly Betty vs. Envious Debby

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Ramon F Herrera

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On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>
> > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>
> > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM and
> > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television studio
> > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>
> > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes, feature
> > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> > broad, box office appeal.

>
> > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> > Latino audiences proud.

>
> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
>
> Deborah
>
> > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing the
> > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>
> > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008



A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
many respects, aren't we, Debbie?

I bet your face is green.

Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
there to make the Germans proud?

-Ramon
 
On 10 Apr 2007 09:44:50 -0700, "Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net>
wrote:

>On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>>
>> > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>> > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>>
>> > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM and
>> > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television studio
>> > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>>
>> > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>> > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes, feature
>> > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>> > broad, box office appeal.

>>
>> > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>> > Latino audiences proud.

>>
>> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
>>
>> Deborah
>>
>> > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>> > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing the
>> > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>> > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>>
>> > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>> > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
>
>A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>many respects, aren't we, Debbie?


No, but you are most certainly jealous of any Anglo in this country
and you prove it all of the time with your posts.
>
>I bet your face is green.
>
>Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>there to make the Germans proud?
>
>-Ramon
>
 
On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>
> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>
> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>
> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM and
> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television studio
> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>
> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes, feature
> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> > > broad, box office appeal.

>
> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> > > Latino audiences proud.

>
> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>
> > Deborah

>
> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing the
> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>
> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>
> I bet your face is green.
>
> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> there to make the Germans proud?
>
> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
show that was running in Mexico for years.

Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.

The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
newsgroup are getting left behind.
 
<robert_not_roberto@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>>
>> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>>
>> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>>
>> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
>> > > and
>> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
>> > > studio
>> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>>
>> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
>> > > feature
>> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>> > > broad, box office appeal.

>>
>> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>> > > Latino audiences proud.

>>
>> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>>
>> > Deborah

>>
>> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
>> > > the
>> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>>
>> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>>
>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>>
>> I bet your face is green.
>>
>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>> there to make the Germans proud?
>>
>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>
> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> show that was running in Mexico for years.


BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
It's from Colombia.


>
> Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
> who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
> plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
>
> The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
> newsgroup are getting left behind.

WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
"
 
On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>
> >> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>
> >> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> >> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>
> >> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
> >> > > and
> >> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
> >> > > studio
> >> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>
> >> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> >> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
> >> > > feature
> >> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> >> > > broad, box office appeal.

>
> >> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> >> > > Latino audiences proud.

>
> >> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> >> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> >> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>
> >> > Deborah

>
> >> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> >> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
> >> > > the
> >> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> >> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>
> >> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> >> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
> >> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> >> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?

>
> >> I bet your face is green.

>
> >> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> >> there to make the Germans proud?

>
> >> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> > excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> > plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> > show that was running in Mexico for years.

>
> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
> It's from Colombia.
>
>
>
> > Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
> > who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
> > plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.

>
> > The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
> > newsgroup are getting left behind.

>
> WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
> IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
> YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
> "



I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
mental capacity, Geek Boy.

So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
reach, Geek Boy:

I publicly challenge you to take the discussion of whether calling an
anti-Hispanic like your self "racist" is proper or not, to an apropos
forum such as alt.english.usage or alt.usage.english. That way you
cannot hide in your little group of like-minded API cheerleaders.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone about last
time we discussed the usage of the English language (that language you
so-called real Americans should know better than me), when I said that
"illegal immigrant" is proper English.

What were the results of that discussion?

I won that discussion by unanimity.

Every single expert on the English language (that one that you racists
and so-called Real Americans profess to know so well). You cannot find
ONE knowledgeable English professor or expert that will support the so-
popular concept in the racist groups that an immigrant cannot be
illegal.

-Ramon

ps: I am not mestizo, I am pure white blood, and my genes are so much
better than yours, if I may add.
 
On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>
> >> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>
> >> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> >> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>
> >> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
> >> > > and
> >> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
> >> > > studio
> >> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>
> >> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> >> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
> >> > > feature
> >> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> >> > > broad, box office appeal.

>
> >> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> >> > > Latino audiences proud.

>
> >> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> >> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> >> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>
> >> > Deborah

>
> >> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> >> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
> >> > > the
> >> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> >> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>
> >> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> >> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
> >> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> >> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?

>
> >> I bet your face is green.

>
> >> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> >> there to make the Germans proud?

>
> >> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> > excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> > plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> > show that was running in Mexico for years.

>
> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
> It's from Colombia.
>


You are the one who is wrong, GB.

Robert-not-Roberto is right.

The show had been indeed running in Mexico (and Venezuela, and
Argentina, and Spain, etc., etc.) for years. Robert-not-Roberto never
said that the show was created in Mexico.

After you take the English-as-a-First-Language courses, take some
classes about Logic.

-Ramon
 
Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
>> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>>>>>> newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago
>>>>>> Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>>>>>> with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.
>>>>>> Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
>>>>>> studio
>>>>>> and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.
>>>>>> Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>>>>>> distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
>>>>>> feature
>>>>>> Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>>>>>> broad, box office appeal.
>>>>>> Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>>>>>> Latino audiences proud.
>>>>> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>>>>> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>>>>> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
>>>>> Deborah
>>>>>> As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>>>>>> Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>>>>>> out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.
>>>>>> Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>>>>>> companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008
>>>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>>>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>>>> I bet your face is green.
>>>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>>>> there to make the Germans proud?
>>>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
>>> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
>>> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
>>> show that was running in Mexico for years.

>> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
>> It's from Colombia.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
>>> who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
>>> plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
>>> The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
>>> newsgroup are getting left behind.

>> WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
>> IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
>> YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
>> "

>
>
> I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
> I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
> mental capacity, Geek Boy.
>
> So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
> reach, Geek Boy:
>
> I publicly challenge you to take the discussion of whether calling an
> anti-Hispanic like your self "racist" is proper or not, to an apropos
> forum such as alt.english.usage or alt.usage.english. That way you
> cannot hide in your little group of like-minded API cheerleaders.
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone about last
> time we discussed the usage of the English language (that language you
> so-called real Americans should know better than me), when I said that
> "illegal immigrant" is proper English.
>
> What were the results of that discussion?
>
> I won that discussion by unanimity.
>
> Every single expert on the English language (that one that you racists
> and so-called Real Americans profess to know so well). You cannot find
> ONE knowledgeable English professor or expert that will support the so-
> popular concept in the racist groups that an immigrant cannot be
> illegal.
>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: I am not mestizo, I am pure white blood, and my genes are so much
> better than yours, if I may add.
>
>

So you are a white racist, bragging about your genes?

--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
 
Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>>
>>>Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>>>with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>>
>>>Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM and
>>>will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television studio
>>>and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>>
>>>Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>>>distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes, feature
>>>Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>>>broad, box office appeal.

>>
>>>Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>>>Latino audiences proud.

>>
>>Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>>proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>>"Latin"[SIC] themes?
>>
>>Deborah
>>
>>
>>>As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>>>Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing the
>>>lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>>>out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>>
>>>Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>>>companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
>
>
> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>
> I bet your face is green.
>
> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> there to make the Germans proud?


If the Germans had had any sense, they would not have made it impossible
for him and people like him to live in Germany.

Like Germany, Mexico is driving out huge numbers of their people. The
only difference between them and the Nazis is that the Nazis rounded up
and killed their minorities, Mexico just sends them into exile and begs
them to send back billions of dollars in remittances.



--
http://thomashardman.com/ Centrist, Moderate, Republican in Maryland
A true Conservative isn't about to let
the enemies of America ruin his streams for Trout.
 
On Apr 10, 5:26 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> > On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
> >> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

>
> >>> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago
> >>>>>> Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> >>>>>> with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.
> >>>>>> Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
> >>>>>> studio
> >>>>>> and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.
> >>>>>> Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> >>>>>> distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
> >>>>>> feature
> >>>>>> Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> >>>>>> broad, box office appeal.
> >>>>>> Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> >>>>>> Latino audiences proud.
> >>>>> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> >>>>> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> >>>>> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
> >>>>> Deborah
> >>>>>> As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> >>>>>> Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> >>>>>> out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.
> >>>>>> Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> >>>>>> companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008
> >>>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> >>>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
> >>>> I bet your face is green.
> >>>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> >>>> there to make the Germans proud?
> >>>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> >>> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> >>> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> >>> show that was running in Mexico for years.
> >> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
> >> It's from Colombia.

>
> >>> Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
> >>> who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
> >>> plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
> >>> The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
> >>> newsgroup are getting left behind.
> >> WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
> >> IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
> >> YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
> >> "

>
> > I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
> > I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
> > mental capacity, Geek Boy.

>
> > So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
> > reach, Geek Boy:

>
> > I publicly challenge you to take the discussion of whether calling an
> > anti-Hispanic like your self "racist" is proper or not, to an apropos
> > forum such as alt.english.usage or alt.usage.english. That way you
> > cannot hide in your little group of like-minded API cheerleaders.

>
> > I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone about last
> > time we discussed the usage of the English language (that language you
> > so-called real Americans should know better than me), when I said that
> > "illegal immigrant" is proper English.

>
> > What were the results of that discussion?

>
> > I won that discussion by unanimity.

>
> > Every single expert on the English language (that one that you racists
> > and so-called Real Americans profess to know so well). You cannot find
> > ONE knowledgeable English professor or expert that will support the so-
> > popular concept in the racist groups that an immigrant cannot be
> > illegal.

>
> > -Ramon

>
> > ps: I am not mestizo, I am pure white blood, and my genes are so much
> > better than yours, if I may add.

>
> So you are a white racist, bragging about your genes?
>


Nope. I was bragging about my individual genes. That is not racism.

If I say that the musical (not to mention the child molesting) genes
of Michael Jackson are much better than mine, that is the truth and it
is not racist.

OTOH, if somebody says:

All <your favorite or despised race here> are <such and such>.

That is a racist statement.

Every time society gives an award, an Olympic medal, a scholarship, a
Heisman Trophy, an Oscar, etc., etc. we are bowing our heads in
recognition of that individual's superior genes. When we give the
nicer cars, luxury homes and sexier ladies to a winner (who hopefully
didn't cheat) we are encouraging him/her to reproduce and give the
planet more people like him/her. Take for instance, Will Smith now
acting with his own kid.

As members of a self-preserving society, we also hope that the Gringo
Girls, Debbies/dsharavi -or the woman behind the "Drunk Drivers"
handle- of the world will remain barren and sterile.

BTW: I would like to withdraw the "better genes" comment, with my
apologies to all the readership, except to Geek Boy, because he has
written things which are much more hateful and hurtful, not only about
friends and relatives of mine, but also about the mother of his
children (who is a Mexican) and about his own descendants (which
belong to his hated Latino and Hispanic "non-race").

-Ramon
 
Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> On Apr 10, 5:26 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
>> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>>> On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
>>>> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago
>>>>>>>> Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>>>>>>>> with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.
>>>>>>>> Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
>>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>>>> and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.
>>>>>>>> Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>>>>>>>> distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>> Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>>>>>>>> broad, box office appeal.
>>>>>>>> Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>>>>>>>> Latino audiences proud.
>>>>>>> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>>>>>>> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>>>>>>> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
>>>>>>> Deborah
>>>>>>>> As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>>>>>>>> Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>>>>>>>> out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.
>>>>>>>> Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>>>>>>>> companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008
>>>>>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>>>>>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>>>>>> I bet your face is green.
>>>>>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>>>>>> there to make the Germans proud?
>>>>>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
>>>>> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
>>>>> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
>>>>> show that was running in Mexico for years.
>>>> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
>>>> It's from Colombia.
>>>>> Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
>>>>> who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
>>>>> plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
>>>>> The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
>>>>> newsgroup are getting left behind.
>>>> WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
>>>> IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
>>>> YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
>>>> "
>>> I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
>>> I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
>>> mental capacity, Geek Boy.
>>> So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
>>> reach, Geek Boy:
>>> I publicly challenge you to take the discussion of whether calling an
>>> anti-Hispanic like your self "racist" is proper or not, to an apropos
>>> forum such as alt.english.usage or alt.usage.english. That way you
>>> cannot hide in your little group of like-minded API cheerleaders.
>>> I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone about last
>>> time we discussed the usage of the English language (that language you
>>> so-called real Americans should know better than me), when I said that
>>> "illegal immigrant" is proper English.
>>> What were the results of that discussion?
>>> I won that discussion by unanimity.
>>> Every single expert on the English language (that one that you racists
>>> and so-called Real Americans profess to know so well). You cannot find
>>> ONE knowledgeable English professor or expert that will support the so-
>>> popular concept in the racist groups that an immigrant cannot be
>>> illegal.
>>> -Ramon
>>> ps: I am not mestizo, I am pure white blood, and my genes are so much
>>> better than yours, if I may add.

>> So you are a white racist, bragging about your genes?
>>

>
> Nope. I was bragging about my individual genes. That is not racism.
>
> If I say that the musical (not to mention the child molesting) genes
> of Michael Jackson are much better than mine, that is the truth and it
> is not racist.
>
> OTOH, if somebody says:
>
> All <your favorite or despised race here> are <such and such>.
>
> That is a racist statement.
>
> Every time society gives an award, an Olympic medal, a scholarship, a
> Heisman Trophy, an Oscar, etc., etc. we are bowing our heads in
> recognition of that individual's superior genes. When we give the
> nicer cars, luxury homes and sexier ladies to a winner (who hopefully
> didn't cheat) we are encouraging him/her to reproduce and give the
> planet more people like him/her. Take for instance, Will Smith now
> acting with his own kid.
>
> As members of a self-preserving society, we also hope that the Gringo
> Girls, Debbies/dsharavi -or the woman behind the "Drunk Drivers"
> handle- of the world will remain barren and sterile.
>
> BTW: I would like to withdraw the "better genes" comment,


It's too late, it's like calling a group of women, "nappy-headed hos",
you will never be forgiven. Once a racist, always a racist.


with my
> apologies to all the readership, except to Geek Boy, because he has
> written things which are much more hateful and hurtful, not only about
> friends and relatives of mine, but also about the mother of his
> children (who is a Mexican) and about his own descendants (which
> belong to his hated Latino and Hispanic "non-race").
>
> -Ramon
>
>



--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
 
On Apr 10, 5:38 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
> > >> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>
> > >> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>
> > >> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
> > >> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>
> > >> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
> > >> > > studio
> > >> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>
> > >> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
> > >> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
> > >> > > feature
> > >> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
> > >> > > broad, box office appeal.

>
> > >> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
> > >> > > Latino audiences proud.

>
> > >> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
> > >> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
> > >> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>
> > >> > Deborah

>
> > >> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
> > >> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
> > >> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>
> > >> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
> > >> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>
> > >> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
> > >> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?

>
> > >> I bet your face is green.

>
> > >> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
> > >> there to make the Germans proud?

>
> > >> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -

>
> > >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > > What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> > > excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> > > plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> > > show that was running in Mexico for years.

>
> > BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
> > It's from Colombia.

>
> > > Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
> > > who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
> > > plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.

>
> > > The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
> > > newsgroup are getting left behind.

>
> > WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
> > IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
> > YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
> > "

>
> I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
> I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
> mental capacity, Geek Boy.
>
> So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
> reach, Geek Boy:
>



Old Geek there is an idiot. Just like the rest of his racist pals.
They resist getting dictionaries, and if they could actually afford
one, they wouldn't be able to read and understand it.
 
George Bush wrote:
> On Apr 10, 5:38 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 4:05 pm, "GeekBoy" <n...@nerdy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> <robert_not_robe...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago
>>>>>>> Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>>>>>>> with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.
>>>>>>> Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television
>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>>> and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.
>>>>>>> Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>>>>>>> distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes,
>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>> Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>>>>>>> broad, box office appeal.
>>>>>>> Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>>>>>>> Latino audiences proud.
>>>>>> Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>>>>>> proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>>>>>> "Latin"[SIC] themes?
>>>>>> Deborah
>>>>>>> As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>>>>>>> Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>>>>>>> out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.
>>>>>>> Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>>>>>>> companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008
>>>>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>>>>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>>>>> I bet your face is green.
>>>>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>>>>> there to make the Germans proud?
>>>>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
>>>> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
>>>> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
>>>> show that was running in Mexico for years.
>>> BZZZZZZZT!!! WRONG RACIST ****!
>>> It's from Colombia.
>>>> Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
>>>> who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
>>>> plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
>>>> The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
>>>> newsgroup are getting left behind.
>>> WHAT ****ING "RACE" IS HISPANIC YOU PATHEIC RACIST ****ER??
>>> IT'S A NATIONALITY FROM SPAIN YOU STUPID ****ING MEZTISO PIECE OF ****.
>>> YORU PATHETIC KIND ARE NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A "RACE.
>>> "

>> I could point you to do some reading about linguistics, a course that
>> I took at MIT under Noam Chomsky, but that is way, way beyond your
>> mental capacity, Geek Boy.
>>
>> So let's lower the discussion a bit, within your low intellectual
>> reach, Geek Boy:
>>

>
>
> Old Geek there is an idiot. Just like the rest of his racist pals.
> They resist getting dictionaries, and if they could actually afford
> one, they wouldn't be able to read and understand it.
>
>

We can sure piss you off without a dictionary.

--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
 
On Apr 10, 8:43 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:

>
> We can sure piss you off without a dictionary.
>



LOL! You have got to be kidding, right?

You don't piss me off. I understand what a failure you and your
associates are. I see the personal failures of Hardman and your
Minutemen project and just generally laugh.

No, when you are aligned with a deep thinker <a joke> like Sandy Myers
and you keep claiming that you aren't racists for <fill in the silly
nonapplicable reason> I know two things. #1, the charge of racism
does keep you clowns from being credible on a national basis, and it's
hurting you jokers. And #2, the more that you deny that the Mexican
people are a race (just like the German people are a race, which is
the specific example my dictionary uses), that you clowns look
foolish.

Naw, I come here because I enjoy it. I enjoy seeing idiots struggling
and looking even dumber.
 
George Bush wrote:
> On Apr 10, 8:43 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
>
>> We can sure piss you off without a dictionary.
>>

>
>
> LOL! You have got to be kidding, right?
>
> You don't piss me off. I understand what a failure you and your
> associates are. I see the personal failures of Hardman and your
> Minutemen project and just generally laugh.
>
> No, when you are aligned with a deep thinker <a joke> like Sandy Myers
> and you keep claiming that you aren't racists for <fill in the silly
> nonapplicable reason> I know two things. #1, the charge of racism
> does keep you clowns from being credible on a national basis, and it's
> hurting you jokers. And #2, the more that you deny that the Mexican
> people are a race (just like the German people are a race, which is
> the specific example my dictionary uses), that you clowns look
> foolish.
>
> Naw, I come here because I enjoy it. I enjoy seeing idiots struggling
> and looking even dumber.
>


I enjoy you coming here, the more anti-American bullshit you post, the
more people that come over to our side.

Have you noticed that only three people agree with you, and they are the
same type person as you.

I doubt that Ramon has any respect for you, because he can tell from
your posts what type of person you are.


--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
 
<robert_not_roberto@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176233967.651882.266330@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
> excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
> plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
> show that was running in Mexico for years.


Actually, the original Ugly Betty is a Colombian soap, and, like all Latin
Ameerican soaps, may run about 3 to 5 months, but never "years."
 
On 10 Apr 2007 12:39:27 -0700, robert_not_roberto@hushmail.com wrote:

>On Apr 10, 12:44 pm, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 10:30 am, "dsharavi" <dshar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 9, 5:09 pm, "Jose" <pabl...@todito.com> wrote:

>>
>> > > newswire.co.nz, New Zealand - 3 hours ago

>>
>> > > Mexican actress turned producer Salma Hayek has set up a film company
>> > > with MGM to get Latino films out to mainstream audiences.

>>
>> > > Reuters reports the new company, Ventanazul, will be housed at MGM and
>> > > will be a partnership between the Hollywood film and television studio
>> > > and Hayek, the producer of hit TV show Ugly Betty.

>>
>> > > Ventanazul plans to make or buy independent movies, and hopes to
>> > > distribute two to four films a year that draw on Latin themes, feature
>> > > Latino or Latina actors and cross over to mainstream audiences for
>> > > broad, box office appeal.

>>
>> > > Hayek says they want the movies to appeal to everyone, while making
>> > > Latino audiences proud.

>>
>> > Why doesn't she set up in company in her native country, and make them
>> > proud THERE? What makes her think we give a **** about so-called
>> > "Latin"[SIC] themes?

>>
>> > Deborah

>>
>> > > As examples, Hayek pointed to Frida, the film about Mexican artist
>> > > Frida Kahlo for which she received an Oscar nomination for playing the
>> > > lead role, and Ugly Betty, which tells of young Betty Suarez, a fish-
>> > > out-of-water working at a fashion magazine.

>>
>> > > Hayek will serve as president and chief executive officer of the new
>> > > companyhttp://www.newswire.co.nz/main/viewstory.aspx?storyid=367367&catid=3008

>>
>> A little jealous of a woman who is obviously better than you in sooooo
>> many respects, aren't we, Debbie?
>>
>> I bet your face is green.
>>
>> Would you tell Albert Einstein to go back home and set up his research
>> there to make the Germans proud?
>>
>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>
>What these racist idiots don't understand is that Mexico has an
>excellent television industry that exports to other countries, and
>plenty of talent. Ugly Betty is actually an Americanized version of a
>show that was running in Mexico for years.
>
>Just like successful merchants bridge the gap between cultures, Hayek,
>who has been successful in both the Spanish world and the Anglo world,
>plans to develop shows using her Latin contacts.
>
>The world is changing, and the racist anti-Hispanic assholes in this
>newsgroup are getting left behind.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah, Mexico is so great and that would be why they continually send
their poor criminals to our country to crap on the people of this
nation.
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:29:57 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:

>Have you noticed that only three people agree with you, and they are the
>same type person as you.


Heck, Johnny, all three are probably the same person....AAC
 
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