Schoolyard Taunting

snafu

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Commonsense Conservatives

Sarah Palin:
We don't trust utopian promises from politicians. The role of government is not to perfect us but to protect us -- to protect our inalienable rights. The role for the government in a civil society is to protect the individual and to establish a social contract so that we can live together in peace.
 

hugo

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Unless that individual is an employee or shareholder of an oil company or one of it's many contractors or suppliers and other beneficiaries from the trickle down effect of increased employment.

When it comes to politicians pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

 

timesjoke

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Like follow the law of the land?

Palin was following the law of the land to enforce the rights of her people who own the oil hugo.

We have already established you also get welfare from the unearned funds that are paid on your behalf into Government because of oil revenue. The forms welfare take may look different but the question is, did you "EARN" the money that was paid on your behalf?

No.

So if you did not "EARN" it, then that money was a form of welfare all residents of Texas benefit from.

Here in Florida we do not have a state income tax, this is made possible because my state has higher taxes on the vacation/resort industry. Every Floridian benefits from a large portion of our taxes being paid by other people.

Is that a form of welfare?

Sure, from a certain perspective, our vacation industry is a kind or state resource that we all benefit from.

I don't see a problem with that and maybe that makes me look a tad socialist to some very narrow minded people but to me I prefer sharing things equally to eliminate corruption.

If we gave individual politicians discretinary control over that kind of money on a election to election basis, it would be too much of a temptation for the average person. Consider that almost all politicians are also lawyers, people trained in the art of telling lies.

 

hugo

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Unless that individual is an employee or shareholder of an oil company or one of it's many contractors or suppliers and other beneficiaries from the trickle down effect of increased employment.

When it comes to politicians pay attention to what they do, not what they say

If you want something for nothing vote for Sarah, Be socialist,

Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Ronald Reagan - Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970

It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it.

Ronald Reagan -First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981

We who live in free market societies believe that growth, prosperity and ultimately human fulfillment, are created from the bottom up, not the government down. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding economic policies and benefiting from their success -- only then can societies remain economically alive, dynamic, progressive, and free. Trust the people. This is the one irrefutable lesson of the entire postwar period contradicting the notion that rigid government controls are essential to economic development.

Ronald Reagan -September 29, 1981
*** Bless You, Ronnie!

 

hugo

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Total State Expenditures per Capita, SFY2008

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Per Capita State Spending
United States $4,936

Alabama $8,586

Alaska $17,907

Arizona $3,804

Arkansas $5,893

California $5,311

Colorado $5,092

Connecticut $7,004

Delaware $9,839

District of Columbia NA

Florida $3,494

Georgia $3,791

Hawaii $8,668

Idaho $3,882

Illinois $3,650

Indiana $3,794

Iowa $5,387

Kansas $4,536

Kentucky $5,363

Louisiana $6,738

Maine $5,628

Maryland $5,266

Massachusetts $6,746

Michigan $4,397

Minnesota $5,438

Mississippi $5,305

Missouri $3,556

Montana $4,625

Nebraska $4,889

Nevada $3,532

New Hampshire $3,636

New Jersey $5,622

New Mexico $7,444

New York $5,961

North Carolina $4,497

North Dakota $5,608

Ohio $4,924

Oklahoma $5,478

Oregon $5,986

Pennsylvania $4,671

Rhode Island $6,737

South Carolina $4,616

South Dakota $3,915

Tennessee $4,218

Texas $3,380

Utah $4,554

Vermont $8,547

Virginia $4,532

Washington $4,833

West Virginia $10,309

Wisconsin $6,413

Wyoming $9,302
Newer numbers. Sarah increased socialism, in the state that was already the most socialist in the union, by 30%. Of course, she is a Republican it is great!! Republican socialism good. Democrat socialism bad! Good grief, no wonder we running down the path to serfdom. Florida voted for Barack Obama.

I have set my computer so those with IQs below 50 are on ignore. In case someone is wondering why I am not responding to his ignorant and childish drivel.

 

ImWithStupid

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How the does a state spend 18K per citizen? Y'all eating caviar, snaf?

I'm pretty sure it has a lot do do with a very low population and that leads to the government responsibility for the land management of a state that is more than twice the size of the next largest.

 

hugo

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I'm pretty sure it has a lot do do with a very low population and that leads to the government responsibility for the land management of a state that is more than twice the size of the next largest.
I'm betting it has a lot to do with welfare for the indigenous population.

 

Old Salt

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I'm pretty sure it has a lot do do with a very low population and that leads to the government responsibility for the land management of a state that is more than twice the size of the next largest.
It also has to do with the high prices on almost everything. It's kinda like Hawaii where things have to be shipped in at high cost.
 

snafu

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How the does a state spend 18K per citizen? Y'all eating caviar, snaf?
Everything has to be flown in at these villages across Alaska on mostly bush planes. Yeah they eat caviar but it's organic salmon roe they harvest themselves. The bread and butter on the other hand needs to be flown in as the fuel to cook and heat their homes. Milk as I said before goes for up to $10 a gallon in most villages. So it is extremely expensive for these people to live.

 

hugo

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Everything has to be flown in at these villages across Alaska on mostly bush planes. Yeah they eat caviar but it's organic salmon roe they harvest themselves. The bread and butter on the other hand needs to be flown in as the fuel to cook and heat their homes. Milk as I said before goes for up to $10 a gallon in most villages. So it is extremely expensive for these people to live.
Why did those expenses go up 30% under Palin? I don't want just a social conservative, I want an economic conservative.

 

snafu

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Why did those expenses go up 30% under Palin? I don't want just a social conservative, I want an economic conservative.
I don't know that it did go up by that much. I do know that all across America gas prices went up thus making expenses higher up here too.

 

timesjoke

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Everything has to be flown in at these villages across Alaska on mostly bush planes. Yeah they eat caviar but it's organic salmon roe they harvest themselves. The bread and butter on the other hand needs to be flown in as the fuel to cook and heat their homes. Milk as I said before goes for up to $10 a gallon in most villages. So it is extremely expensive for these people to live.
The thing hugo fails to understand is that we are not talking about Texas where everything is dirt cheap even the labor to build things where illegals from Mexico are conviently overlooked while they are needed to build a Government building but then are bad any other time.

As snaf points out, milk costs $10, now if we compare that cost to what the rest of us pay for milk, we see a lot more than a 30% increase on just one item.

Recent reports show that many states have run out of money in their unemployment accounts, most are experiencing massive shortfalls in tax collection while at the same time they were already deficit spending just like our Federal Government.

30%?

Maybe Alaska was the only State who saw what was comming and planned for it?

Hugo lives in a State where money he has not earned is used to offset his personal tax burdon, that is also welfare, but you notice he will never address that. Sure, he says he put me on ignore, he says that is because I am not smart but consider this........why is it someone who is so stupid can ask questions too difficult for him to respond to?

If I am stupid and my questions are too hard for him to answer, then he must be completely brain dead and only parrotting what he sees from other people instead of actually being able to discuss these things on his own.

 
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