Sexual harassment

[Ahhlee]

As long as your happy I guess that is all that matters, but I ask a question, what happens when your 70 and look back at the "bumps" in the road of many different partners and yet nobody is beside you at the end?
In the youth *** ed class I help to teach, we cover that *** intended *** to be a kind of communication between our souls, a binding beyond the physical or logical realm. The more souls we "mingle" with, the more we confuse our souls and after awile it becomes close to impossible to have a lasting relationship with someone of the opposite ***.

But this is just my opinion.

At 70, I could have been married to the same man for 50 years and still wind up alone. Marriage doesn't guarantee that someone will be by my side in my waning years.

I'm not worried about being alone....I guess because I'm really not. It's hard to explain.

The job is the place more men and women are exposed to each other over long periods of time. If your "looking" for something that is missing and there are less barriers inhibiting your initiating a sexual encounter, the workplace seems to be the most logical place to look first.

Well yeah, it is pretty common for relationships to form at work. I'm not disputing that.

The point I was addressing is that the NEW "booty call" mentality is what is causing these types of relationships to form and I would argue that it's not based on the fact that it's been going on for decades....with both singles and married folks.

I agree, remember I am the responsibility "preacher" beyond everything else but our society has been changing into being almost completely void of responsibility these days. We are teaching people that being selfish is good.

Well looky there. We agree on something.

In the cases I investigated with women, the most common theme was inmates who were showering the ladies with a lot of attention. It would start with going out of their way to say hi to the woman every day and asking for advise on things from her, trying to get her into discussions of relationships and personal feelings. Then there is hand made cards or other crafts (some inmates are true artists) but I see it all as just keeping the flow of attention on the woman, making her feel important and then one day they allow it to go further.
These guys have 24 hours a day to figure out ways to manipulate the system and the officers/nurses. In the case of the pictures I mentioned before he had broken the ice with this woman by approaching her with needing a "woman's" advise on how to deal with his teenage daughter who was in a lot of trouble. That was the bridge to get her to open up on her own personal information.

But even though he did have a daughter, his ex-wife broke all ties with him and would not even allow a letter to the daughter much less phone calls or visits so he never needed help with his daughter, it was all just a scam.

So what conclusion can possibly be made from this?

Well it seems that the key to happiness with some women is showing her a lot of attention, listen to her and make her feel important with asking her advise on things and give her little gifts now and then and no matter how bad you can be in every other way outside of this involvement, she will love you.

Fools in love are just that.....fools.

I will agree that women are the more forgiving ***, though, and sometimes that tends to burn them pretty **** bad.

 

[timesjoke]

At 70, I could have been married to the same man for 50 years and still wind up alone. Marriage doesn't guarantee that someone will be by my side in my waning years.

I'm not worried about being alone....I guess because I'm really not. It's hard to explain.

One would think that there would be more of a connection between people who have been together 'exclusively' for most of their life compared to people who have been bouncing around from one person to the next without dedication or love being between them.

Well yeah, it is pretty common for relationships to form at work. I'm not disputing that.

The point I was addressing is that the NEW "booty call" mentality is what is causing these types of relationships to form and I would argue that it's not based on the fact that it's been going on for decades....with both singles and married folks.

So if girls don't even want to be taken out for dinner before ***, if both men and women are turning more and more to shallow sexual encounters, you don't think that can bleed over to the workplace?

Well looky there. We agree on something.

Strange things happen sometimes

Fools in love are just that.....fools.

I don't know, I don't feel like a fool, in fact I feel like a brilliant man, I did something right to end up in love, it is the best feeling in the world to know someone loves you that does not feel obligated to love you like family.

I will agree that women are the more forgiving ***, though, and sometimes that tends to burn them pretty **** bad.

That is why I have little sympathy for women who complain about men who don't pay their child support. The guy was obviously a scumbag before you made a baby with him, don't act surprised now when he follows through with his potential you knew about.

Being a tad more selective who they produce children with would make a lot of women much more happy.

The same goes for men, I have no sympathy for guys who have one night stands then cry about how they were "trapped" into child support by a woman who lied about being on the pill or something. They were fools, and will get the result of being a fool. They earned it.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

That is why I have little sympathy for women who complain about men who don't pay their child support. The guy was obviously a scumbag before you made a baby with him, don't act surprised now when he follows through with his potential you knew about.

Therein lies the rub, TJ.

If the guy doesn't cough up some child support, then you have a single mother who has to turn to the government for support (That is, hopefully at last resort and if all other efforts have failed.). Making their child the perfect little citizen: government educated, welfare'd to adulthood, and weak.

I would rather see scumbag, sh!theel fathers brought before a judge and garnished into paying child support than the taxpayer's dollar supporting the little *******. The child did not get to choose his parents.

Hindsight is 20/20 and a little discretion goes a long way, but I'm no responsible for some other guy's kid.

 

[Old Salt]

Therein lies the rub, TJ.
If the guy doesn't cough up some child support, then you have a single mother who has to turn to the government for support (That is, hopefully at last resort and if all other efforts have failed.). Making their child the perfect little citizen: government educated, welfare'd to adulthood, and weak.

I would rather see scumbag, sh!theel fathers brought before a judge and garnished into paying child support than the taxpayer's dollar supporting the little *******. The child did not get to choose his parents.

Hindsight is 20/20 and a little discretion goes a long way, but I'm no responsible for some other guy's kid.

Sure you are, RO. We ALL are. Don't forget, "it takes a village".

 

[eddo]

Therein lies the rub, TJ.
If the guy doesn't cough up some child support, then you have a single mother who has to turn to the government for support (That is, hopefully at last resort and if all other efforts have failed.). Making their child the perfect little citizen: government educated, welfare'd to adulthood, and weak.

I would rather see scumbag, sh!theel fathers brought before a judge and garnished into paying child support than the taxpayer's dollar supporting the little *******. The child did not get to choose his parents.

Hindsight is 20/20 and a little discretion goes a long way, but I'm no responsible for some other guy's kid.

i soooooooooooooooooo totally agree.

 

[Ahhlee]

One would think that there would be more of a connection between people who have been together 'exclusively' for most of their life compared to people who have been bouncing around from one person to the next without dedication or love being between them.

I dunno. I feel pretty darn connected to some people who I don't share my intimate surroundings with on a daily basis. ****, I probably appreciate them more because they aren't up my *** all day bugging me about little drudgeries that can become just so darn annoying.

I guess to each their own.

So if girls don't even want to be taken out for dinner before ***, if both men and women are turning more and more to shallow sexual encounters, you don't think that can bleed over to the workplace?

It's possible.

Actually, I think women are pretty tough today and many are realizing that they CAN and often times have to make it on their own. I will tell you, the last thing I want when I go to work to try to forge out an honest living for myself is for some jackhole sitting around commenting on my **** or *** when I'm trying to get **** done. I don't have time for such nonsense!

Perhaps that's why there are more sexual harassment suits today? Many women don't have that second income to rely on and can't just quit and go back to being a homemaker if things get too "dirty" at work. They NEED that job. Just a thought.

Oh, and I definitely require that a man take me out to dinner before ***....at the Country buffet. On double coupon day. *** that gets me HOT!

Strange things happen sometimes

'Tis true!

I don't know, I don't feel like a fool, in fact I feel like a brilliant man, I did something right to end up in love, it is the best feeling in the world to know someone loves you that does not feel obligated to love you like family.

I'm just saying love often makes one blind to the object of their affection's faults. Therefore a woman in love won't see a bad man as being "that" bad. I'm not excusing it, just saying that's possibly why such things happen.

That is why I have little sympathy for women who complain about men who don't pay their child support. The guy was obviously a scumbag before you made a baby with him, don't act surprised now when he follows through with his potential you knew about.
Being a tad more selective who they produce children with would make a lot of women much more happy.

The same goes for men, I have no sympathy for guys who have one night stands then cry about how they were "trapped" into child support by a woman who lied about being on the pill or something. They were fools, and will get the result of being a fool. They earned it.

OMFG!!!!

TJ - all the times we've gone 'round and 'round in debates, that is all I ever wanted you to say! Is that the responsibility goes both ways!

Wow! This makes me want to go out and learn how to Rumba.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Sure you are, RO. We ALL are. Don't forget, "it takes a village".

Some women have produced offspring with said village, but it was that one night of indiscretion with the wandering band of Gypsies that produced the little leechin' *******.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

OMFG!!!!
TJ - all the times we've gone 'round and 'round in debates, that is all I ever wanted you to say! Is that the responsibility goes both ways!

Wow! This makes me want to go out and learn how to Rumba.

You SHOULD make that line from TJ your signature and link it back to the thread.

 

[Ahhlee]

You SHOULD make that line from TJ your signature and link it back to the thread.

Yeah!!!! I know, right?

 

[timesjoke]

Therein lies the rub, TJ.
If the guy doesn't cough up some child support, then you have a single mother who has to turn to the government for support (That is, hopefully at last resort and if all other efforts have failed.). Making their child the perfect little citizen: government educated, welfare'd to adulthood, and weak.

I would rather see scumbag, sh!theel fathers brought before a judge and garnished into paying child support than the taxpayer's dollar supporting the little *******. The child did not get to choose his parents.

Hindsight is 20/20 and a little discretion goes a long way, but I'm no responsible for some other guy's kid.

Don't get me wrong RO, I completely agree. Men who make babies should be forced to support their children if they will not do it without force, you and I should not have to pay for their mistakes. I am just saying I don't want to hear either the man or woman bellyache over things they should have known before they made babies together.

I dunno. I feel pretty darn connected to some people who I don't share my intimate surroundings with on a daily basis. ****, I probably appreciate them more because they aren't up my *** all day bugging me about little drudgeries that can become just so darn annoying.

I guess to each their own.

Me and Tami talk about the "grind" sometimes. The day in, day out days that some feel are just unbearable. I experienced them with my first two wives, but so far I don't with Tami, maybe that feeling is the warning that your with the wrong person?

But yes, to each their own.

It's possible.

Actually, I think women are pretty tough today and many are realizing that they CAN and often times have to make it on their own. I will tell you, the last thing I want when I go to work to try to forge out an honest living for myself is for some jackhole sitting around commenting on my **** or *** when I'm trying to get **** done. I don't have time for such nonsense!

Perhaps that's why there are more sexual harassment suits today? Many women don't have that second income to rely on and can't just quit and go back to being a homemaker if things get too "dirty" at work. They NEED that job. Just a thought.

So more sexual harassment suits because they are unable to keep a man? I guess that is possible, anything in the persuit of a dollar I suppose.

Oh, and I definitely require that a man take me out to dinner before ***....at the Country buffet. On double coupon day. *** that gets me HOT!

I love buy one, get one free coupons, we call them 'cheep date night'.

So are there "bonuses" for better meals?

I'm just saying love often makes one blind to the object of their affection's faults. Therefore a woman in love won't see a bad man as being "that" bad. I'm not excusing it, just saying that's possibly why such things happen.

But shouldn't they avoid that with someone they know "IS" that bad before they allow things to get to the point of affection?

OMFG!!!!

TJ - all the times we've gone 'round and 'round in debates, that is all I ever wanted you to say! Is that the responsibility goes both ways!

Wow! This makes me want to go out and learn how to Rumba.

If you go back to our very first debate on abortion on this forum you will see I said this same thing then. We just don't have the other stuff taking your attention away from this comment now.

I have always said men are just as responsible, just in different ways.

And I would love to Rumba with you, to me the Rumba leads more to personal attitude and flair than any other dance, your certainly filled with spirited attitude, you should dance very well.

 

[Ahhlee]

Don't get me wrong RO, I completely agree. Men who make babies should be forced to support their children if they will not do it without force, you and I should not have to pay for their mistakes. I am just saying I don't want to hear either the man or woman bellyache over things they should have known before they made babies together.

Hear, hear! Responsibility all the way around!

Me and Tami talk about the "grind" sometimes. The day in, day out days that some feel are just unbearable. I experienced them with my first two wives, but so far I don't with Tami, maybe that feeling is the warning that your with the wrong person?
But yes, to each their own.

If you have something that special, then that's a good thing, TJ.

I'll tell you what....if I can find a guy who can make me laugh so hard that I snort while he's mowing the lawn and I'm washing the windows, perhaps I'd be willing to give that whole "exclusive relationship" thing a try.

But until then....fuggetaboutit.

So more sexual harassment suits because they are unable to keep a man? I guess that is possible, anything in the persuit of a dollar I suppose.

No, no...I disagree here. I don't think whether a woman has, is looking for, can't keep, or doesn't want a man has anything to do with her filing a sexual harassment claim. It's about her being made to feel so uncomfortable at work that she cannot perform her job effectively. And I'm talking about legitimate suits that do deserve justice and perhaps even monetary compensation, not revenge claims.

I love buy one, get one free coupons, we call them 'cheep date night'.

Since my surgery, I've found that one alcoholic beverage is now the equivilant of about 5. So I would have to say that as it stands, I am about the cheapest date I know....haha.

So are there "bonuses" for better meals?

Of course! If a guy goes all out to impress me, I always reward him with a Hickory Farms summer sausage sampler platter. It's the least I can do!

But shouldn't they avoid that with someone they know "IS" that bad before they allow things to get to the point of affection?

Yes, they should. You can love someone who turns bad, but I think it's more important to love yourself enough to leave a situation like that. Unfortunately not everyone has enough self-esteem to see or do that.

If you go back to our very first debate on abortion on this forum you will see I said this same thing then. We just don't have the other stuff taking your attention away from this comment now.
I have always said men are just as responsible, just in different ways.

Ehhh....I hate to spoil a good moment, so I'm just going to reread "The same goes for men, I have no sympathy for guys who have one night stands then cry about how they were "trapped" into child support by a woman who lied about being on the pill or something. They were fools, and will get the result of being a fool. They earned it" and call it good.

And I would love to Rumba with you, to me the Rumba leads more to personal attitude and flair than any other dance, your certainly filled with spirited attitude, you should dance very well.

Oh **** yeah, I'm a good dancer.....if you let me lead.

Yes, yes. I can be a bit of a **** cat served up with a side of sass, but at least I'm fun!

 

[timesjoke]

No, no...I disagree here. I don't think whether a woman has, is looking for, can't keep, or doesn't want a man has anything to do with her filing a sexual harassment claim. It's about her being made to feel so uncomfortable at work that she cannot perform her job effectively. And I'm talking about legitimate suits that do deserve justice and perhaps even monetary compensation, not revenge claims.

Oh, you had said something about women not having the second income to fall back on so I misunderstood what you meant.

Since my surgery, I've found that one alcoholic beverage is now the equivilant of about 5. So I would have to say that as it stands, I am about the cheapest date I know....haha.

I hope your 'results' are going well from that, after you had mentioned it I have met several people who have also had this done and they all love it.

Of course! If a guy goes all out to impress me, I always reward him with a Hickory Farms summer sausage sampler platter. It's the least I can do!

I am partial to cheese platters myself

Ehhh....I hate to spoil a good moment, so I'm just going to reread "The same goes for men, I have no sympathy for guys who have one night stands then cry about how they were "trapped" into child support by a woman who lied about being on the pill or something. They were fools, and will get the result of being a fool. They earned it" and call it good.

I guess my point is equally responsible, like two halves of an apple. They are equal in size but they are still different.

Oh **** yeah, I'm a good dancer.....if you let me lead.

Yes, yes. I can be a bit of a **** cat served up with a side of sass, but at least I'm fun!

Like I said, I bet you would be fun to dance with.

 

[eddo]

I'll tell you what....if I can find a guy who can make me laugh so hard that I snort while he's mowing the lawn and I'm washing the windows, perhaps I'd be willing to give that whole "exclusive relationship" thing a try.
But until then....fuggetaboutit.

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[eddo]

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[timesjoke]

My kind of mowing....

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[Ahhlee]

ME!!! ME!!! ME!!!

You're only interested now that Alyssa is taken!!!!!

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