So...what the duece?

[timesjoke]

Haha. Only TJ could turn this thread around to be about him. laughs Just kidding.

And yeah, I make just over minimum wage (I'm techinically a "supervisor", which means absolutely nothing to me, because a guy who smokes pot every day of his life makes 15 cents an hour more than I do and is so much of a pothead he performs like he has a mental handicap. He's a supervisor too, by the way.)

Well your story about the pot head makes the point of why most people see that level of worker as fairly low. Hard to respect that the workers can abuse drugs and nobody cares.

And to TJ: I actually NEED(ed) my job, so I can't exactly go "Well, since you won't pay me enough to do the badass job I COULD do, I quit!" It's "well...that's ty." I just went with the "Match my work quality to my pay". I still do a good job. I just sleep better at night knowing that I'm not getting cheated out of they money I could get

This is the hardest mentality to get out of guys who I hire for basic labor. They have it in their minds that they will only work so much because their rate of pay is low in their opinion.

Here is the problem with that:

You set your trends of work and even if you do step up the pace a little after a raise, you will fall back on the pace you have always known. I never give a raise to someone until they have earned it and show they can consistently work to that standard and every raise is probationary for 90 days so if they drop their pace, I take it back, and possibly let them go because they have dissapointed me at that point.

But, good for you in getting away from that mess and moving on. I don't really like Wal-Mart because I see them as part of our lost jobs problem but I don't begrudge anyone working for them. I just do not shop there myself unless I have to.

Starter jobs are like starter homes, you keep trying to work your way up to better levels until you feel you have what you feel is good for you. Some people stay happy with the fast food and a trailer to live in, some never find enough, Most really happy people are in the middle somewhere.

 

[snafu]

Well your story about the pot head makes the point of why most people see that level of worker as fairly low. Hard to respect that the workers can abuse drugs and nobody cares.





This is the hardest mentality to get out of guys who I hire for basic labor. They have it in their minds that they will only work so much because their rate of pay is low in their opinion.

Here is the problem with that:

You set your trends of work and even if you do step up the pace a little after a raise, you will fall back on the pace you have always known. I never give a raise to someone until they have earned it and show they can consistently work to that standard and every raise is probationary for 90 days so if they drop their pace, I take it back, and possibly let them go because they have dissapointed me at that point.

But, good for you in getting away from that mess and moving on. I don't really like Wal-Mart because I see them as part of our lost jobs problem but I don't begrudge anyone working for them. I just do not shop there myself unless I have to.

Starter jobs are like starter homes, you keep trying to work your way up to better levels until you feel you have what you feel is good for you. Some people stay happy with the fast food and a trailer to live in, some never find enough, Most really happy people are in the middle somewhere.

I'm sorta seeing this in an other perspective. I joined the Navy at 17. I started my job at the USPS at the age of 20. I have no other skills but when I retire I either need another job or lower my life style. I did do a few courses for computer repair and networking but it's already obsolete. I would have to continue training until I retire and that's a minimum of 3 more years. So what do I do? I'm on the other side of the specrtum.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

You can't live your life being concerned about how other people see you. Look at myself for example. Most of the regular posters here have called me every nasty or dirty name you can imagine just because they do not like my views on things. Some people will always look down on other people and it is only the latest excuse that changes.

******!

C NT!

Sh!theel!

Cokksukker!

Ok... it's out of my system now.

Oh wait...

*******!

There.

 

[RoyalOrleans]

Haha. Only TJ could turn this thread around to be about him. laughs Just kidding.
And yeah, I make just over minimum wage (I'm techinically a "supervisor", which means absolutely nothing to me, because a guy who smokes pot every day of his life makes 15 cents an hour more than I do and is so much of a pothead he performs like he has a mental handicap. He's a supervisor too, by the way.)

Now, I do understand the "anybody can do it" thing. That's just aggravating though. Sure, "anybody" can do it. But if you can do it for any somewhat good amount of time (turnover at the ol' KFC isn't quite as high as it is in other fast food places in the area), then you fare better than most people can. You get burnt out quickly. I've worked there for 2 years (yeah, I know, rethink my career choices), and it's not easy. The part that sucks is that you kind of get into a rhythm. You wake up, go to your ty job, then come home and do whatever. As long as you still get a paycheck, then it's not all that bad. But one day, you realize "HEY, I CAN'T STAND MY FSCKING JOB!" Then you apply to Wal-Mart. And you have a job there in less than a month (Orientation tomorrow. Starting pay is better than what I get paid to be a "supervisor" and the hours are better too.) So yeah. I'm totally done with that fast food ****.

And to TJ: I actually NEED(ed) my job, so I can't exactly go "Well, since you won't pay me enough to do the badass job I COULD do, I quit!" It's "well...that's ty." I just went with the "Match my work quality to my pay". I still do a good job. I just sleep better at night knowing that I'm not getting cheated out of they money I could get

And speaking of the whole "regional manager" thing: It IS possible to do that. The biggest problem with that is that you have to be a fast-food lackey for so long that most people can't handle it. As it stands, my boss WAS going to have me opening/closing the store, since I'm a "supervisor". However...she dropped the ball on it, and so I got ed out of moving up for the moment. But I get more hours working the mid-shift anyway. (So that *****.) My point is, it's not as easy to do it as it sounds. That 11 years? I believe it. My current General Manager at KFC has been there for 8. She's hoping to become a District Manager at some point, I believe. But unlike most managers, she's actually out on the floor packing/taking orders the whole time. Doing that for 8 years would probably drive me to become an alcoholic. And since she pulls down 2k a month PLUS 10% store profit(which generally is about another 2k, give or take, plus benefits and such), then I would be able to afford a lot of alcohol. Or, I could just get another job that pays better than hers (hopefully by the time I'm her age[24]). Then laugh as I don't actually have to work in fast food to make that much. And then maybe I'll buy a mansion. And hookers. And cocaine. It'll be pretty neat.

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[Ahhlee]

******!
C NT!

Sh!theel!

Cokksukker!

Ok... it's out of my system now.

Oh wait...

*******!

There.

Woah, tiger!

hands RO a moist towelette

 

[snafu]

******!
C NT!

Sh!theel!

Cokksukker!

Ok... it's out of my system now.

Oh wait...

*******!

There.

I really don't know where all this love is comming from. What's with all the name calling? Bender and wez, you two too. Good Grief!

 

[Ahhlee]

I really don't know where all this love is comming from. What's with all the name calling? Bender and wez, you two too. Good Grief!

I don't know where it's coming from, either...but it's kind of turning me on!