Tiger Racist?

[timesjoke]

I have been reading some of the many commentary columns about the Tiger situation after a friend showed me an interesting trend.

They "seem" to be saying that he is pushing a sort of racist pattern where even when he is chasing other women, he only selects "Barbi Doll" white women. The question some seem to be asking is with all the vast sea of beautiful women in the world, why does he not select any variety in his various sexual partners?

The one thing they never say is "where is the black women"?

The trend of sports and other very famous black men is to "NOT" want anything to do with black women and the point that seems to be made is people like Tiger Woods are making the situation worse.

You know what, I feel putting these people too high on a pedestal is a recipe for danger anyway but to a certain degree I guess I see some of this point. The common expression for "making it" for a black man is to have a white woman, so the question is:

Is that a bad thing?

Thoughts?

 

[mercury]

He's only 1/4 Black... does that mean that if there's any African American in his lineage that he should ONLY date Black women? What's the big freaking deal?

He's also 1/4 Dutch, so maybe his upbringing and exposure to that culture helped frame his preferences.

I don't know... and I don't really care.

 

[timesjoke]

I have several friends who are black so I have asked a couple of them today what they think about this attention to the race aspect and it is interesting to hear the difference between how black men and black women respond.

Black women really do seem to take this issue seriously and to them when a famous black man rejects black women completely, it does bother some of them.

 

[ImWithStupid]

My theory is that white barbie doll type women are more likely to be skanky ***** that would sleep with a married man.

Second thought, no. All kinds of women are skanky *****.

 

[emkay64]

I have a very good black friend. He says he's not attracted to black women. Well..let me rephrase...initially he is but inevitably he said he doesn't like the look of the skin surrounding the woman's genitalia, nipple, and nor does he like the texture of the hair. Hypocrite for sure, but the heart wants what the heart wants lol.

 

[timesjoke]

I have my own theory.

I really like most black women as friends, they tend to be very........energetic with their opinions. Rarely have I found a black woman who was not fast to tell you what was on their minds.

White women can be vocal, but not with the assertiveness that the average black woman has (in my experience). In all the cases I have seen with famous black men who have the "Barbi" white girls, the women seem very submissive to the guy........something no black woman I have ever known would be willing to do.

Take this situation for example, sure his wife beat his azz with a golf club, Tiger tried to drive away and crashed his car. Tiger lied and said his wife did not hit him but if that was what I know as the average black woman there would have been no lies, she would have still been beating him with the golf club when the cops arrived and she would have screamed out "ya, I beat his azz, the S. O. B. should not have been ******** around on me, I should cut his d!ck off, and I will if he does it again".

 

[hugo]

I am more attracted to Filipinas and Latinas. Does that make me a racist? I would argue the vast majority of individuals who marry within their race are more likely to be racist.

 

[timesjoke]

To be a racist under the way this is talking about is usually "excluding" a group.

Some people are saying that these black men are excluding even the possibility of dating in their own race at all, so I guess that is the exclusion the way they see it. This is not my point of view though, I am just talking about some of the commentary I have seen from the black community especially many black women.

I think it is funny actually.

emkay,

The heart wants, what the heart wants, but how often do we want the fancy sport car because our neighbor has one?

The new zero turning radius mower because the neighbor has one?

The big Christmas light display because the neighbor has one?

The question that some of these groups seem to be asking is if these famous black men with white women are setting up other black men to reject black women. Is that a possibility?

Are black men like Tiger Woods setting the standard that other black men try to achieve?

Remember the commercials "be like Mike"?

 

[emkay64]

"Are black men like Tiger Woods setting the standard that other black men try to achieve?

Remember the commercials "be like Mike"?"

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I'm going to go with "people are idiots if they take everything so **** literally". It should be painful to be that stupid. That said...yes...some stupid people will follow suit to be like him.

 

[timesjoke]

I'm going to go with "people are idiots if they take everything so **** literally". It should be painful to be that stupid. That said...yes...some stupid people will follow suit to be like him.

And I guess that is the point some of these groups are making so the next question is......should someone like Tiger Woods be more careful as to what they do because millions of young black children are looking up to him as their role model?

There was a lady on one of the news shows last night that said white children have an endless supply of white role models to emulate but young black boys have very few and out of the few they have, successful black sports stars seem to have the most impact. So when these black role models show that real success includes a white woman on your arm.................that hurts relationships in the black community.

Do you think this is possible emkay?

Can this kind of attitude by someone like Tiger be passed on to generations of young black boys/men who look up to Tiger?

 

[emkay64]

"There was a lady on one of the news shows last night that said white children have an endless supply of white role models to emulate but young black boys have very few and out of the few they have, successful black sports stars seem to have the most impact. So when these black role models show that real success includes a white woman on your arm.................that hurts relationships in the black community.

Do you think this is possible emkay?

Can this kind of attitude by someone like Tiger be passed on to generations of young black boys/men who look up to Tiger?"

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Anything is possible. The IQ of the nation consistently drops at an alarming rate. Should Tiger be careful not to offend anyone? *** NO!!! His life his choice, free country. He can date and sleep with, marry or commit adultery with anyone he chooses. Not my concern, nor is it anyone elses.

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[mercury]

Tiger Woods should be able to date/marry anyone, of any race, and still not be pigeon holed in that way. Why? Because he is a mix of ALL the races.

And if anyone really wants to get all bent over it, why isn't it the Asians doing the complaining? (he IS 1/2 Asian, BTW...) I don't understand why he is considered a BLACK role model... is it just because he has a darker complexion?

I guess what I really don't understand is why everyone insists on ignoring the fact that he is 3/4 NOT Black.

 

[timesjoke]

Anything is possible. The IQ of the nation consistently drops at an alarming rate. Should Tiger be careful not to offend anyone? *** NO!!! His life his choice, free country. He can date and sleep with, marry or commit adultery with anyone he chooses. Not my concern, nor is it anyone else.

So you don't think his choice to sell his image and intentionally be a public icon has any responsibility attached to it? No greater responsibility than someone who is not a public figure or "setting the standards"?

I remember someone saying that Obama had more pressure on him to not screw up because he was the first black President and him messing up would be a bad mark on "all" black people, not just himself. I think a lot of people in the Black communities are trying to say that these famous black people should represent their race better because their failures are felt by more than just them.

Merc, because he looks black and has accepted many awards and attended many functions with people recognising him as a "black athlete".

As far as his "true" parentage, who knows for sure what that is? Without DNA testing there is no way to know for sure. Did you know it is possible for white parents to have a black child?

Understanding Genetics: Human Health and the Genome

In many cases it is our perceptions, not reality that governs our decisions, I made a big post about that once.

 

[emkay64]

So you don't think his choice to sell his image and intentionally be a public icon has any responsibility attached to it? No greater responsibility than someone who is not a public figure or "setting the standards"?

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No I don't. I think people need to grow a brain and think on their own.

 

[timesjoke]

No I don't. I think people need to grow a brain and think on their own.

Well this is where we will not agree.

If he is greedy enough to sponge off the public billions of dollars selling his image, I think a certain responsibility exists by that exchange of money to conduct yourself in certain ways.

He made almost all of his billions from selling his squeeky clean image, a great deal of the money he made was from helping to sell products to the black community who were buying into that image he was creating. This was all by choice, nobody forced Tiger to create this image, or to take the money.

I think we all are responsible to set the standards for younger generations but people like Tiger who make massive amounts of money selling their image has an even greater responsibility because he is taking the money.........

In my opinion.

 

[emkay64]

Yup, we disagree.

 

[hugo]

I'm not a role model... Just because I dunk a basketball doesn't mean I should raise your kids.

Charles Barkley

The real problem is too many black kids have no male role model in the home. It does not take a village to raise a child it takes a mother and father.

 

[snafu]

I must be a racist too because I like the barbie doll types too.

 

[snafu]

Tiger Woods should be able to date/marry anyone, of any race, and still not be pigeon holed in that way. Why? Because he is a mix of ALL the races.
And if anyone really wants to get all bent over it, why isn't it the Asians doing the complaining? (he IS 1/2 Asian, BTW...) I don't understand why he is considered a BLACK role model... is it just because he has a darker complexion?

I guess what I really don't understand is why everyone insists on ignoring the fact that he is 3/4 NOT Black.

merc I agree with you totally but society doesn't see it that way. if you have dark skin you are from Africa.