Video Game Violence... True or B.S.?
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Greyfoxx
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No, it IS bs because they're just using video games as an excuse for their own actions. They needa grow the *f* up and take responsibility for thier own *f-ing* actions.
thats why parents are saying its the video games, so they can have an excuse for thier kids acting out. It couldnt be the *f-ing* parents' fault could it?!
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thats why parents are saying its the video games, so they can have an excuse for thier kids acting out. It couldnt be the *f-ing* parents' fault could it?!
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candygirl
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It definitely could be the parents.. I'm not saying it couldn't. i mean, Good Lord, you know how many kids DON'T have ADD, They just need their whiny *** spanked? Parents are to blame for a lot of BS their kids do! but I do think that there are a few cases, (not tons, not even frequent, but some) that are given the idea by a video game.
DarknessLover
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I am a hardcore gamer, I play Doom 3, Halo 2, Grand Theft Auto, The Godfather, and none of them have even partially influenced behavior. I was a fighter since I was in 3rd grade. I get into fights alot, and I usually got my *** kicked. I can say that games, helped my fighting, like Godfather, since it has something in it called "Black Handing" or something, but that's all, never influenced my behavior, but more my technique, I guess that is all.
Oh by the way, now I win more fights ^.^
Oh by the way, now I win more fights ^.^
Friðbjörn
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unbelievable how Manson gets blamed for everything...
and I mean the guys who did Columbine hated his music lol
soon there'll be one of these moms groups that's gonna pin this on GTA, Rammstein, Manson, and something else, to divert attention from parents not doing their jobs...
it's society's fault that someone gets so badly treated and/or isolated that they see nothing else in the situation than to shoot up a school.
and what is ****** up is that because of politics, everyone's sad now and this gets attention, but when this happens in Iraq and the 3rd world, we don't even get to know about it.
again, video games have nothing to do with this bullshit
and I mean the guys who did Columbine hated his music lol
soon there'll be one of these moms groups that's gonna pin this on GTA, Rammstein, Manson, and something else, to divert attention from parents not doing their jobs...
it's society's fault that someone gets so badly treated and/or isolated that they see nothing else in the situation than to shoot up a school.
and what is ****** up is that because of politics, everyone's sad now and this gets attention, but when this happens in Iraq and the 3rd world, we don't even get to know about it.
again, video games have nothing to do with this bullshit
FireHawk
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I am gonna call bull ****. It parents faults if there 11 year old kids have a "Mature" game and can't handle it. Yes kids sneak stuff my parents should watch what kids play if the kid is under 13 or immature for his age.
BTW If you buy your 10 year old a GTA game you have more problems than buying that game for your kid.
BTW AGAIN: The ERSB who rate the games is made up of parents I have read.
BTW If you buy your 10 year old a GTA game you have more problems than buying that game for your kid.
BTW AGAIN: The ERSB who rate the games is made up of parents I have read.
That **** Rammstein strikes again! Lighting **** on fire and speaking german,corruputing the kids minds I tells ya!
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I actually had to go to an assembly where we were told that violent music (R+was the example used) was part of the cause of school shootings including Columbine.
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I actually had to go to an assembly where we were told that violent music (R+was the example used) was part of the cause of school shootings including Columbine.
Chelsea x Horror
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Its bullshit.
Its the parents who control whether the child will become violent. If the parent teaches the child well enough, and the child is responsible than that child should be able to play a game that has violence and realize that its just a game and should not reflect real life.
Same with music. Parents are affraid that if a child listens to maralyn manson or eminem or black/hate metal that they will hate everything and become homicidal/suicidal. But if they parents taught them/raised them right it shouldn't be a problem.
Another good anecdote: Pitbulls. Are NOT violent unless abused and forced to fight. Unlike what most of society believes about them.
Its the parents who control whether the child will become violent. If the parent teaches the child well enough, and the child is responsible than that child should be able to play a game that has violence and realize that its just a game and should not reflect real life.
Same with music. Parents are affraid that if a child listens to maralyn manson or eminem or black/hate metal that they will hate everything and become homicidal/suicidal. But if they parents taught them/raised them right it shouldn't be a problem.
Another good anecdote: Pitbulls. Are NOT violent unless abused and forced to fight. Unlike what most of society believes about them.
azemkamikaze03
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ok.
so like it definitely does have an effect. youd have to be either blind, retarded, or not fully matured to deny that. (take you pick.)
all media has an effect. unconsciously or consciously. its practically common sense. take the streets. ghettos and ect. why do you think gang violence is such a big problem? it spread, the Crips never were so large but through rap music news of the gangs like them spread and pretty soon every where had their own blue/orange flag waving gang. when rappers rap about guns, drugs, ho's it subliminally influences a lot of it's listeners that taking part in that **** is ok. just like how a lot of LP fans say man i relate to your music so much. its the same way for people who listen to rap. they talk about how tough it is to not have a job and how the only way to get what u want is to do things the illegal way. becuase the illegal way is the crazy way but when u do crazy **** people respect u.
its the same aspect, with video games. I mean i find it quite amazing that a lot of these high school/college shooters play a lot of violent games, watch a lot of violent movies, listen to a lot of violent/disturbing music. you cannot tell me that doesn't effect them.
you can relate it kinda to the Chinese water drop torture thing how at first its fine, but then all u can focus on is the water dropping on u.
dont blame it on the parents. let me ask you the guy who shot up vTech, his parents raised him strict and they never woulda thought of him doing that. so what would drive him to that? "violence in school" well let me ask you where did the people who exposed him to violence get it from?
music, movies, games, and other entertainment dont make people kill people. but they do expose ur deepest emotions and in a sense show u ways to make them better.
lets say thoes kids never looked on the internet, movies, games, music, tell me where did they learn how to shoot guns in such a violent manner? did the violence at school do it?
games do contribute to violence its a fact. kids, teens, the naive wont accept it but its true. of course people will be like OH I PLAY VIDEO GAMES THAT ARE EXtReMeLy VIoLent bUt I'M puREcTly noRmal. yea ive heard that one before. i dont believe it. maybe ur not violent but ur (chances are) not totally "normal."
u cant tell me that u dont (the hardcore gamers in here) brag about being able to shoot an old lady in the head from however many miles away in a video game. or how u beat mortal kombat. if you brag about it that means u love violence. if u love violence than that means its in ur head and if u ever needed to kill someone becuase ur angry well u already learned some techniques right?
im not saying i dont have my own faulty traits i love violent things. im not justifying that video games is a justifyable reason to get out of doing time for killin someone im just saying it does have an effect
so like it definitely does have an effect. youd have to be either blind, retarded, or not fully matured to deny that. (take you pick.)
all media has an effect. unconsciously or consciously. its practically common sense. take the streets. ghettos and ect. why do you think gang violence is such a big problem? it spread, the Crips never were so large but through rap music news of the gangs like them spread and pretty soon every where had their own blue/orange flag waving gang. when rappers rap about guns, drugs, ho's it subliminally influences a lot of it's listeners that taking part in that **** is ok. just like how a lot of LP fans say man i relate to your music so much. its the same way for people who listen to rap. they talk about how tough it is to not have a job and how the only way to get what u want is to do things the illegal way. becuase the illegal way is the crazy way but when u do crazy **** people respect u.
its the same aspect, with video games. I mean i find it quite amazing that a lot of these high school/college shooters play a lot of violent games, watch a lot of violent movies, listen to a lot of violent/disturbing music. you cannot tell me that doesn't effect them.
you can relate it kinda to the Chinese water drop torture thing how at first its fine, but then all u can focus on is the water dropping on u.
dont blame it on the parents. let me ask you the guy who shot up vTech, his parents raised him strict and they never woulda thought of him doing that. so what would drive him to that? "violence in school" well let me ask you where did the people who exposed him to violence get it from?
music, movies, games, and other entertainment dont make people kill people. but they do expose ur deepest emotions and in a sense show u ways to make them better.
lets say thoes kids never looked on the internet, movies, games, music, tell me where did they learn how to shoot guns in such a violent manner? did the violence at school do it?
games do contribute to violence its a fact. kids, teens, the naive wont accept it but its true. of course people will be like OH I PLAY VIDEO GAMES THAT ARE EXtReMeLy VIoLent bUt I'M puREcTly noRmal. yea ive heard that one before. i dont believe it. maybe ur not violent but ur (chances are) not totally "normal."
u cant tell me that u dont (the hardcore gamers in here) brag about being able to shoot an old lady in the head from however many miles away in a video game. or how u beat mortal kombat. if you brag about it that means u love violence. if u love violence than that means its in ur head and if u ever needed to kill someone becuase ur angry well u already learned some techniques right?
im not saying i dont have my own faulty traits i love violent things. im not justifying that video games is a justifyable reason to get out of doing time for killin someone im just saying it does have an effect
shadowfax1007
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UnhingedMouse0
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Im gonna chop up azems post here because I disagree.
It only has an effect if people let it have an effect. If the person is not brought up right or is just insane to begin with then it will effect them. Its also not becuase of the music, but rather the environment they live in. Some rich guy living in a nice neighborhood isnt going to go sell crack on the corner just becuase he heard it in a song. Why? Because thats not the environment hes in. Im not saying that the music dosent contribute to things, but Im saying it sure as **** is not the leading cause.
Yeah, but do you know how many people also love these things but have enough sense not to re-enact them? If someone just sees somthing and goes "I NEED TO REPEAT THAT NOW! WHERES MY SHOTGUN!?" then theyve got problems to begin with. Theres a very large line between whats real and whats not, and whats acceptable and whats not. The majority of people know where the line is. Those who dont are the ones who do the horrible things previously mentioned.
I fairly good point here, had he NEVER, ever ever ever, been exposed to any kind of violence, then yes, he would not have known that what he did was a option. But again I say, he was messed up to begin with. After the shooting occured there were so many things like "The Warning Signs: We Should Have Seen it Coming."
Remind me... what is normal again? I know when I play violent games Im not sitting there going, "Hmm I really wish I could shoot someones ******* head off!" and then go play the game.
Thats a load of bullshit right there, just becase you are good at a violent game does not mean you love violence. People get proud about whatever they can do well. Its just like any other competition to see who can do the best. It has nothing to do with people enacting their innermost violent fantasies. And if that is the reason why someone is playing a game, well let me say it again... they were messed up from the beginning.
Yes, it does have an effect as with EVERYTHING in life, but the question is is the THE one thing that made the people snap and do the things they did? Nope. Thus, I call bullshit.
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