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Alun Jones

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"Steve Riley [MSFT]" <steve.riley@microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> "Alun Jones" <alun@texis.invalid> wrote in message

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>> Windows Vista's firewall does a thoroughly competent job of preventing

>> traffic that you didn't invite.</span>

>

> Which is precisely the job of a firewall--that and nothing more.</span>

Strange - I thought the job of a firewall was to keep pestering the user:

"You've clicked on a link from a stranger who promised you naked Russian

tennis players, but might possibly infect your computer instead, do you

really expect to see naked Russian tennis players?"

.... and then expecting the user to pause for a moment's reflection before

clicking "no, not really, I must have been confused".

Anyone who believes that they will answer those questions correctly (and

then will investigate why an unexpected outbound connection was initiated)

might want something like ZoneAlarm.

Alun.

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Mick Murphy

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Windows One Care is a complete piece of garbage.

You can now be considered a spammer for Microsift Products!

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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

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> There is nothing wrong with Vista's built-in firewall.

> However, for maximum protection, consider installing

> a comprehensive anti-virus/security program, such as

> Windows OneCare. You can try it FREE for 90 days.

> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm

>

> --

> Carey Frisch

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Desktop Experience -

> Windows Vista Enthusiast

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>

> "AliceZ" wrote:

>

> I just bought a Toshbia A305 S6825 notebook with Vista Premium sp1 (which I

> was told had good security programs installed) and someone told me yesterday

> that the Firewall on Virsta Premium is not (very) effective. They suggested I

> should use the (new) ZA (which is about 45MB, so they say). They mentioned

> that they used "ShieldsUP" to test Vista Premium's Firewall and found a

> "ping" (don't know what that is!) got through.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions about the Vista Home Premium's

> Firewall? Or is this just too "hi tech" for me to get worried about now since

> I just bought the new Toshiba with Vista Home Premium sp1 and since I am a

> novice at all of this? I am trying to learn so much, as soon as possible,

> which is a bit confusing and daunting

> </span>

 
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Bruce Chambers

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AliceZ wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> I just bought a Toshbia A305 S6825 notebook with Vista Premium sp1 (which I

> was told had good security programs installed) and someone told me yesterday

> that the Firewall on Virsta Premium is not (very) effective. They suggested I

> should use the (new) ZA (which is about 45MB, so they say). They mentioned

> that they used "ShieldsUP" to test Vista Premium's Firewall and found a

> "ping" (don't know what that is!) got through.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions about the Vista Home Premium's

> Firewall? Or is this just too "hi tech" for me to get worried about now since

> I just bought the new Toshiba with Vista Home Premium sp1 and since I am a

> novice at all of this? I am trying to learn so much, as soon as possible,

> which is a bit confusing and daunting</span>

Vista's built-in firewall is perfectly adequate for most people.

While it's not quite up to the ease-of-use standards of Kerio or

ZoneAlarm, it has been noticeably improved over WinXP's version.

There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall:

1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only

one most people see. To further supplement this view, Sphinx's Vista

Firewall Control http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/) is a piece of freeware

that makes the Vista Firewall much more easily manageable to the average

user.

2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security

(WF.msc), accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder, for

the experienced user who wants more granular control.

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bb

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In article <34EC0591-85B0-4688-90D6-A2A93B1B295E@microsoft.com>,

AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com says...<span style="color:blue">

> Just wanted to mention that I tried the Shields Up not only on the Toshiba

> notebook with Vista Home Premium Sp1 (with also AVG-AV; AVG-AS, SpyBlaster),

> but also on our WinXPsp2 desktop which has NAV (AVG-AS; AdAware, SpyBlaster)

> and that also showed the same "ping" thing.</span>

The ping is most likely from your router, not your computer. For

example, FiOS routers come with ping response enabled to make it easier

for technicians. It can be turned off.

-bb

 
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Paul Smith

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"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I just bought a Toshbia A305 S6825 notebook with Vista Premium sp1 (which I

> was told had good security programs installed) and someone told me

> yesterday

> that the Firewall on Virsta Premium is not (very) effective. They

> suggested I

> should use the (new) ZA (which is about 45MB, so they say). They mentioned

> that they used "ShieldsUP" to test Vista Premium's Firewall and found a

> "ping" (don't know what that is!) got through.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions about the Vista Home Premium's

> Firewall? Or is this just too "hi tech" for me to get worried about now

> since

> I just bought the new Toshiba with Vista Home Premium sp1 and since I am a

> novice at all of this? I am trying to learn so much, as soon as possible,

> which is a bit confusing and daunting</span>

The built in Firewall is fine, I'd strongly recommend using that over

nag-ware like Zone Alarm, which probably isn't any more effective and just

is something else to think about, the build in Firewall just works.

Shields Up is from Steve Gibson (security researcher read: journalist), well

known for not having all screws fully tightened when it comes to this sort

of thing.

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