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phreakwars said:
Cogito Ergo Sum said:There is no valid argument to support your position.
Pharmacies although private businesses, operate under the public trust. They are a highly regulated industry charged with providing and protecting the quality and accuracy of the FDA approved Pharmacopeia. They are the floodgate of control between poison and prescription.
The only option available to them is what price to charge. That's it. If Wal-Mart wants to charge 10 times more per dose than anybody else, they can, and their sales will drop to ZERO.
However, in order to comply with the terms of the contracts they hold with various insurance plans regarding reimbursement, in some cases, they would have to fill and be reimbursed based upon the contract formulary terms. They would have no choice in the matter.
It is a disturbing and frightening trend of having medical personnel decide what they will and will not do based upon their religious or moral beliefs. This should be penalized heavily in all cases. If you can't keep your personal beliefs out of your professional responsibility, you should forfeit your professional license. Period. Become a priest, a minister, a gardner, a painter, plumber, anything but don't be a doctor, nurse, pharmacist, or any other allied health practitioner.
Pharmacy is nothing more than the regulated disbursement of controlled substances. Nothing more. The pharmacy does not, nor should they be allowed to choose what they will and will not distribute. That's the job of the FDA, not the local pharmacy, not even a giant corporation like Wal-Mart.
Had I been the judge, not only would Wal-Mart be ordered to fill the prescription, but I would have fined them 100 million dollars in punitive fees for such a stupid stunt.
hugo said:
CES, you and Hugo have some valid arguments...Cogito Ergo Sum said:I sure am glad Hugo and his kind don't control the government; especially the FDA.
While it's fundamentally true that "A business, corporate, individual, partnership, etc, should have the right to choose what products they sell", abolishing the FDA would be cataclysmic at best.
Some business activities simply are less business and more of regulated professions. Drug manufacturing, drug testing, and drug dispersement via pharmacies just happens to be one of these activities.
Years ago, before drugs were monitored, controlled, and regulated by the government, hucksters were everywhere in this country selling concocted potions which they claimed did all sorts of miraculous things. Some were nothing more than sugar water or alcohol, but some, contained heavy metals, poisons, narcotics, and other such nasties and in fact, many injured or killed unsuspecting people.
Given Hugo's logic, which he derives from his flawed libertarian - rose colored glasses on- world view, it's not at all difficult to show just how foolish and misguided he is.
Specifically his "Let me explain something folks. A transaction should be between two willing parties." BULLSHIT.
If one is to believe this crap, then I should be able to take my folding table and coat hanger, and if I have another person who is willing to pay me, then I should be able to perform back room abortions without fear of government interference. Also, I should even be allowed to perform surgery and cut into a living human being if they are willing. Hugo argues that the government should not interfere!
Hugo's logic also would say that...
I should be able to manufacture my own chemical remedies for virtually anything I wish to claim that I can cure, so long as I have a willing buyer, and the government should not interfere.
I should be able to brew up alcoholic beverages in my garage or basement, regardless of quality or purity controls, ingredient standards or product testing and sell it to willing buyers without fear of government meddling.
Hell, I should be able to manufacture explosives and automatic weaponry, and even bombs if I choose and sell them to any willing buyer and the government should stay the **** out of our mutually agreed upon business.
Hugo, you're an ASS. Clearly blinded by your lopsided libertarian dogma and "logic" and as out of touch with reality as anyone I've ever met. The government, although not perfect, (and no one's is or ever was), is not the complete enemy of the people you try to make it out to be.
Here's the real truth people, not Hugo's warped version.
Although the government has it's cons, it also has it's pros and these pro's are big ones!
I like the fact that I can TRUST the quality, purity, and traceability of regulated pharmaceuticals. This is a good thing; thank you government!
I like the fact that alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages sold to me are free from impurities, toxics, and have strict quality controls placed upon them. This is a good thing; thank you government!
I like the fact that my car must meet basic safety standards in order to be manufactured and sold for use as a motor vehicle in this country and that the fuel manufactured for use in it is also regulated for quality and control. This is a good thing; thank you government!
I like the fact that my civic water supply is routinely checked and adjusted to ensure is purity and fitness for human consumption. This is a good thing; thank you government!
I like the fact that my doctor, pharmacist, nurse, physical therapist, phlebotomist, x-ray technician, any other medical person, my lawyer, accountant, barber and many other people I do business with or I come in contact with is licensed, has been tested and regulated to ensure that they have the necessary skills and knowledge to perform their function. This is a good thing; thank you government!
Yes, there are a lot of things my government does for me that I like. Lots of them. Thank you government! Yes, there are things my government sucks at, but the benefits my government provides far outweigh it's shortcomings.
So Hugo, take your "Let me explain something folks. A transaction should be between two willing parties" and shove it up your ass..that way your head will have some desperately needed company!
Agreed. That's the LAW...Cogito Ergo Sum said:
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