Phantom said:I can't remember the name of the texts off the top of my head
Dead sea scrolls?
Edit: nah, that wasn't it.
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Phantom said:I can't remember the name of the texts off the top of my head
ToriAllen said:I don't see what the big deal is in thinking that Jesus traveled. Wouldn't it be much better if he were well travelled and well educated?
Moko said:Dead sea scrolls?
Edit: nah, that wasn't it.
Anna Perenna said:Jesus appears to have gone missing from the ages of 12 to 30.
A common theory is that he travelled to India, Tibet, Nepal etc and studied Buddhism.
I'd be very interested to know what the religious people on this forum think about this topic.
I'll share my theory if you share yours.
ALLAH IS GREAT said:Well the answer is Jesus is a muslim. The term muslim means a person or anything that submits itself to the will of God. And Jesus did that, therefore he is a muslim.
If we want to play word games, then sure. Every religious person would be a Muslim by that definition.
A Muslim Jew? Poor Jesus. Talk about inner turmoil.
ALLAH IS GREAT said:Well No actually. Christians worship a man, Hindus worship idols, Buddhist cant see past themselves , Oh arent the Jews the ones God cursed?
He wasnt a Jew in Character or Faith.
ALLAH IS GREAT said:Well the answer is Jesus is a muslim. The term muslim means a person or anything that submits itself to the will of God. And Jesus did that, therefore he is a muslim.
ALLAH IS GREAT said:Christians worship a man
Hindus worship idols
Buddhist cant see past themselves
Oh arent the Jews the ones God cursed?
He wasnt a Jew in Character or Faith.
So what? If there is one thing I hate worse than seculars trying to use crap like that to disprove Christianity, it is Christians who blindly disagree with any secular theory that might threaten their personal belief. Maybe he did spend time traveling or learning about other cultures and beliefs. So what? WouldnPhantom said:To me it isn't a big deal. However, secular scholars use the theory of His supposed travels to pick up foreign religions, return to Israel, then teach said religion as something new in order to draw a following.
ToriAllen said:So what? If there is one thing I hate worse than seculars trying to use crap like that to disprove Christianity, it is Christians who blindly disagree with any secular theory that might threaten their personal belief. Maybe he did spend time traveling or learning about other cultures and beliefs. So what? Wouldn
ToriAllen said:I don
hugo said:Unless you were a merchant people did not travel back then.
Buddhism is more philosophy than religion. You can appreciate the philosophy and teachings without renouncing God.Phantom said:I agree. We know he spent his toddler years in Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod, traveled to Jerusalem as a child, and also roamed the Israeli countryside during his ministry.
If he traveled, so what? I don't feel Jesus was a Buddhist because the difference between Buddhism and Christianity have some extreme differences. The main one being Christianity/Judaism centers around a single deity while Buddhism has no deity- followers of Buddhism strive for "enlightenment," not the salvation of any god.
Not necessarily. Just because he was innately human, doesnAnna Perenna said:But it does call into question the (literal) claim that he is the Son of God.
"They do not offer animal sacrifice, judging it more fitting to render their minds truly holy. They flee the cities and live in villages where clean air and clean social life abound. They either work in the fields or in crafts that countribute to peace. They do not hoard silver and gold and do not acquire great landholdings; procuring for themselves only what is necessary for life. Thus they live without goods and without property, not by missfortune, but out of preference. They do not make armaments of any kind. They do not keep slaves and detest slavery. They avoid wholesale and retail commerce, believing that such activity excites one to cupidity. With respect to philosophy, they dismiss logic but have an extremely high regard for virtue. They honor the Sabbath with great respect over the other days of the week. They have an internal rule which all learn, together with rules on piety, holiness, justice and the knowledge of good and bad. These they make use of in the form of triple definitions, rules regarding the love of God, the love of virtue, and the love of men. They believe God causes all good but cannot be the cause of any evil. They honor virtue by foregoing all riches, glory and pleasure. Further, they are convinced they must be modest, quiet, obedient to the rule, simple, frugal and without mirth. Their life style is communal. They have a common purse. Their salaries they deposit before them all, in the midst of them, to be put to the common employment of those who wish to make use of it. They do not neglect the sick on the pretext that they can produce nothing. With the common purse there is plenty from which to treat all illnesses. They lavish great respect on the elderly. With them they are very generous and surround them with a thousand attentions. They practice virtue like a gymnastic exercise, seeing the accomplishment of praiseworthy deeds as the means by which a man ensures absolute freedom for himself."
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