What the Mega-Mosque at Ground Zero Means to Worldwide Islam

snafu

snafu

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So I guess JFK saying no to operation Northwoods and sacking the plotters of an attack on Americans, along with staged terrorist attacks on American soil, hijacking planes and substituting drones painted up to look like commercial jets, was more "progressive" bullshit, TJ?
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You really are brainwashed, I was wondering for awile but you have completely lost all connection to reality. I had not really understood your brand of lunacy until recently when a friend of mine gave me a book explaining anti-colonialism, and this is another root motivation for Obama as well.

To you, any lie is justified as long as it fills your need to attack the systems you hate.

For the few on the forum interested in knowing what Builder is talking about, the joint chiefs were instrusted to provide a list of available options for dealing with Cuba. This concept was indeed included among a huge number of other ideas all brainstorming from different angles. It was never fully developed and never completely accepted as an alternative by anyone in power.

BUT.

Even if it was, we are still stuck on the same problem, a problem Builder refuses to address because he knows it proves an inside job to be impossible for 9/11.

The "regular Joe" who must be in on the conspiracy for it to work. It is one thing for a President, or even a General to offer theories or ideas to try and conduct some kind of "false-flag" operation, but these Generals and leaders are not going to be the one doing the deeds, these operations must be performed by "little guys" and other civilian groups like first responders (fire fighters, cops, etc.) must also be pulled into the conspiracy.

None of these "regular Joes" would have any reason to keep that blood on their hands. They would have nothing to gain, no reason to lie, so no reasonable excuse not to tell.

How can someone pull that off when Clinton could not even get a hummer in the Whitehouse without the entire world finding out?
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Well thats the whole thing. There are so many people involved a conspiracy would be ludicrus.

 
builder

builder

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Well thats the whole thing. There are so many people involved a conspiracy would be ludicrus.
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Did you even take the time to read about operation Northwoods, snaff? Doesn't sound like it. Did you have any idea about the US torture operations?

Were you aware that the propaganda machine started by Edgar J Hoover criminalised a formerly productive and profitable crop?

Lots of information is hidden from the mainstream reader, and anyone who chooses to blab about it loses their pension entitlements because they signed a waiver when gaining employment.

That, and the fact that they would probably meet with an unfortunate "accident" anyways, should they decide to "out" the people they work for. Valerie Plame ring any bells? Hmmm?

 
timesjoke

timesjoke

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Well thats the whole thing. There are so many people involved a conspiracy would be ludicrus.
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Did you even take the time to read about operation Northwoods, snaff? Doesn't sound like it. Did you have any idea about the US torture operations?

Were you aware that the propaganda machine started by Edgar J Hoover criminalised a formerly productive and profitable crop?

Lots of information is hidden from the mainstream reader, and anyone who chooses to blab about it loses their pension entitlements because they signed a waiver when gaining employment.

That, and the fact that they would probably meet with an unfortunate "accident" anyways, should they decide to "out" the people they work for. Valerie Plame ring any bells? Hmmm?
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Just because this was one idea among hundreds of other ideas that does not mean it was ever used then or now.

You keep dodging the biggest point of why any conspiracy like this must fail, there must be thousands of 'regular people' must be in on the conspiracy, none of these 'regular people' have any reason to hide this cospiracy or hold the blood on their hands for these higher ups who would come up with something like this.

 
timesjoke

timesjoke

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That was a very informative video...

I don't see how anyone could argue against the points that the guy talking made. I would surely like to hear some.
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And that is the one thing you will never see anyone ever try to do because they can't argue against it, at least not honestly.

 
jokersarewild

jokersarewild

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Well, one could say that some Muslims realize that some of the later passages are pretty intolerant and choose to ignore them, but they wouldn't be "true Muslims", and strict Islam would dictate they were evil or something. shrug
 
timesjoke

timesjoke

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Well, one could say that some Muslims realize that some of the later passages are pretty intolerant and choose to ignore them, but they wouldn't be "true Muslims", and strict Islam would dictate they were evil or something. shrug
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One of the few things I have seen you say that shows your paying attention Joker.

Bravo.

 
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Angelica

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It has nothing to do with bigotry but the fact that this is hollowed ground.
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Are you kidding me...hollowed ground? Are you from NYC? You have people right outside the WTC selling T-Shirts, cutlery sets, snow globes, swimwear, and various other items to all the sightseers from out of town, with the images of the WTC being demolished (and they buy them by the truckload). And you claim a Mosque will tarnish the "hallowed grounds" of the WTC. *****!

 
jokersarewild

jokersarewild

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Angelica, this is a dead topic. We'd already argued it into the ground. While I agree with you, I've no desire to argue it again, and I'm sure Times also is of the same opinion.
 
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