Why Does George React Now?

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Hmmm...seems that all disasters are not created equal....
>>>>> Why doesn't George wait for over a week like he did with Katrina
>>>>> before moving on this disaster?
>>>> Florida responded same day with requests to Federal officials. LA and
>>>> NO officials did not.
>>> Lying sos. The gov of LA requested emergency assistance before the
>>> storm hit.

>> Cite?

> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.


We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be done
without having to be asked.
 
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:20:49 GMT, "Patriot Games"
<Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1170546372.792471.147650@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Hmmm...seems that all disasters are not created equal....
>>>>>> Why doesn't George wait for over a week like he did with Katrina
>>>>>> before moving on this disaster?
>>>>> Florida responded same day with requests to Federal officials. LA and
>>>>> NO officials did not.
>>>> Lying sos. The gov of LA requested emergency assistance before the
>>>> storm hit.
>>> Cite?

>> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.

>
>We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
>better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be done
>without having to be asked.
>
>

However..it does appear that Defenawhatever is someones bitch.

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and
rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a turd by the clean end.
 
Patriot Games wrote:
> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1170546372.792471.147650@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Hmmm...seems that all disasters are not created equal....
>>>>>> Why doesn't George wait for over a week like he did with Katrina
>>>>>> before moving on this disaster?
>>>>> Florida responded same day with requests to Federal officials. LA and
>>>>> NO officials did not.
>>>> Lying sos. The gov of LA requested emergency assistance before the
>>>> storm hit.
>>> Cite?

>> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.

>
> We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
> better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be done
> without having to be asked.
>


On Sunday, September 4th 2005, the Washington Post quoted a "senior
Bush official" who said that "as of Saturday Louisiana Governor Blanco
still had not declared a state of emergency". The goal was to make the
governor look like a fool. Why the newspaper quoted an UNNAMED source
would be interesting in its own right, but you can be sure that the
Post's article will be quoted widely by the neocons who won't bother
to mention that the Post printed a correction on Monday, 5 September
2005.

Now read the correction:

"A September. 4th article on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
incorrectly said that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D) had
not declared a state of emergency. She declared an emergency on Aug.
26.".

George W. Bush... liar-in-chief and a disgrace to America.

:)

>
>
>
 
"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Pro-Cho" <georgek@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>> approached.

>
> They need to be asked?


Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?

_invertebrate_
 
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:01:22 -0500, Defendario <Defendario@netscape.com>
wrote:

>Patriot Games wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1170546372.792471.147650@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Hmmm...seems that all disasters are not created equal....
>>>>>>> Why doesn't George wait for over a week like he did with Katrina
>>>>>>> before moving on this disaster?
>>>>>> Florida responded same day with requests to Federal officials. LA and
>>>>>> NO officials did not.
>>>>> Lying sos. The gov of LA requested emergency assistance before the
>>>>> storm hit.
>>>> Cite?
>>> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.

>>
>> We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
>> better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be done
>> without having to be asked.
>>

>
>On Sunday, September 4th 2005, the Washington Post quoted a "senior
>Bush official" who said that "as of Saturday Louisiana Governor Blanco
>still had not declared a state of emergency". The goal was to make the
>governor look like a fool. Why the newspaper quoted an UNNAMED source
>would be interesting in its own right, but you can be sure that the
>Post's article will be quoted widely by the neocons who won't bother
>to mention that the Post printed a correction on Monday, 5 September
>2005.
>
>Now read the correction:
>
>"A September. 4th article on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
>incorrectly said that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D) had
>not declared a state of emergency. She declared an emergency on Aug.
>26.".
>
>George W. Bush... liar-in-chief and a disgrace to America.


Actually buffwit..even if she had declared a state of emergency, she
still would have needed to have asked the Feds for help. She didnt.

Sucks to be her, and her constituants. She and Nagin did however have
foresight enough to get their own family members the hell out of Dodge
before the storm hit.

But then..thats typical for Democraps. They always look out for their
own..and when they look out for others..they expect everyone else to pay
for it.

Gunner

>
>:)
>
>>
>>
>>


Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and
rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a turd by the clean end.
 
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:45:39 GMT, Myal <Dumaree@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I guess its just wait and see , what do the heads behind the prez think
>is the best political move for him to make ,


Mars?

Swill
--
"Where mistakes have been made,
the responsibility rests with me."
George Bush - 1/10/2007
 
"_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
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> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Pro-Cho" <georgek@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>>> approached.

>> They need to be asked?

> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?


What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy, why
don't you folks start acting right?"

Why do they have to be asked to do that?

What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?
 
"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:20:49 GMT, "Patriot Games"
> <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.

>>We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
>>better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be
>>done
>>without having to be asked.

> However..it does appear that Defenawhatever is someones bitch.


You sensed that too?

Hahahahhahaha!!!
 
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
>> news:52q5guF1on7s5U5@mid.individual.net...
>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:52nl7rF1pc3r4U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1170546372.792471.147650@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Hmmm...seems that all disasters are not created equal....
>>>>>>> Why doesn't George wait for over a week like he did with Katrina
>>>>>>> before moving on this disaster?
>>>>>> Florida responded same day with requests to Federal officials. LA
>>>>>> and NO officials did not.
>>>>> Lying sos. The gov of LA requested emergency assistance before the
>>>>> storm hit.
>>>> Cite?
>>> I'm not your ****** Patti. You chase google.

>> We already covered this. I know you're not my ******. My ******s are
>> better educated than you, more polite, and usually do what needs to be
>> done without having to be asked.

> On Sunday, September 4th 2005, the Washington Post quoted a "senior
> Bush official" who said that "as of Saturday Louisiana Governor Blanco
> still had not declared a state of emergency". The goal was to make the
> governor look like a fool. Why the newspaper quoted an UNNAMED source
> would be interesting in its own right, but you can be sure that the
> Post's article will be quoted widely by the neocons who won't bother
> to mention that the Post printed a correction on Monday, 5 September
> 2005.
> Now read the correction:
> "A September. 4th article on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
> incorrectly said that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D) had
> not declared a state of emergency. She declared an emergency on Aug.
> 26.".
> George W. Bush... liar-in-chief and a disgrace to America.
> :)


Doesn't mean ****.

FEMA had plenty of stuff nearby. That isn't the issue.

It was the ****** Mayor's job, nobody else's, to evacuate his people. He
had a thousand busses parked that he could have used. He didn't. He told
them to walk their ass to the Dome and abandoned them!

That had NOTHING to do with Bush.
 
>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>>>> approached.
>>> They need to be asked?

>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?

>
> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy,
> why don't you folks start acting right?"
> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?


They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
would answer the phone.
 
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>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>>>> approached.
>>> They need to be asked?

>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?

>
> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy,
> why don't you folks start acting right?"
>
> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
>
> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?


I don't think you are accurately describing their offer.

From the AP article that was cited:

"`We're not the only player, we're not the single player. But we are the
main player in this issue,' he said. `Our role is going to be through
supporting the dialogue between the different parties inside Iraq with
support from the other parties, like the Americans and any other country in
the world. So that's how we can stop the violence.'"

He's suggesting something more intensive than a single phone call. The Iraq
Study Group has suggested that Syria could help.

"The U.S. bipartisan Iraq Study Group recommended in December that the Bush
administration make diplomatic overtures to Syria and Iran to use their
influence with Sunni and Shiite extremist groups to curb the violence and
prevent the conflict from spilling over into the rest of the Middle East."

Possibly Syria's self-interest and ours will coincide.

"He insisted that Syria, Iran and other regional powers have a stake in
bringing peace to Iraq.
"`So if we have this chaos in Iraq, it will spill over to Syria and to other
countries. So saying this, like saying that the Syrian government is working
against the Syrian interest, this is impossible,' he said."

It is absolutely not guranteed to work. But this troop surge probably won't
work either. It is beyond me why our leaders can be seen as virtuous for
being willing to sacrifice American lives, and not seen as foolish and
cowardly for refusing to sit down and have a ****ing conversation. Syria
may try to work against our interests, so we should bear that in mind while
we sit down and talk.

_invertebrate_
 
"Tough Tonto" <Chemo@subby.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview
>>>>> aired
>>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
>>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>>>>> approached.
>>>> They need to be asked?
>>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?

>> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
>> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy,
>> why don't you folks start acting right?"
>> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
>> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?

> They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
> would answer the phone.


Thanks for ducking the questions.
 
In article <B5Kyh.20712$VY5.16945@trnddc08>,
"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Tough Tonto" <Chemo@subby.com> wrote in message
> news:tDtyh.2192$Yl3.2169@trndny09...
> >>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview
> >>>>> aired
> >>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
> >>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
> >>>>> approached.
> >>>> They need to be asked?
> >>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?
> >> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
> >> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy,
> >> why don't you folks start acting right?"
> >> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
> >> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?

> > They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
> > would answer the phone.

>
> Thanks for ducking the questions.


O.P.

CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
approached. Assad told ABC's "Good Morning America" that U.S.-Syrian
cooperation was the "last chance" to avert a civil war in Iraq
 
>> >>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview
>> >>>>> aired
>> >>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to
>> >>>>> bring
>> >>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
>> >>>>> approached.
>> >>>> They need to be asked?
>> >>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?
>> >> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
>> >> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian
>> >> ruler-guy,
>> >> why don't you folks start acting right?"
>> >> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
>> >> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?
>> > They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
>> > would answer the phone.

>>
>> Thanks for ducking the questions.

>
> O.P.
>
> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
> approached. Assad told ABC's "Good Morning America" that U.S.-Syrian
> cooperation was the "last chance" to avert a civil war in Iraq
 
"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tough Tonto" <Chemo@subby.com> wrote in message
> news:tDtyh.2192$Yl3.2169@trndny09...
>>> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
>>> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian ruler-guy,
>>> why don't you folks start acting right?"
>>> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
>>> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?

>> They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
>> would answer the phone.

>
> Thanks for ducking the questions.


I think my response addresses your questions pretty directly, in case you
are interested in actually discussing the issue.

_invertebrate_
 
In article <VgOyh.2292$Yl3.812@trndny09>,
"Tough Tonto" <Chemo@subby.com> wrote:

> >> >>>>> CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview
> >> >>>>> aired
> >> >>>>> Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to
> >> >>>>> bring
> >> >>>>> peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
> >> >>>>> approached.
> >> >>>> They need to be asked?
> >> >>> Do you suggest that they ought to do it without being asked?
> >> >> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
> >> >> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian
> >> >> ruler-guy,
> >> >> why don't you folks start acting right?"
> >> >> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
> >> >> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?
> >> > They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
> >> > would answer the phone.
> >>
> >> Thanks for ducking the questions.

> >
> > O.P.
> >
> > CAIRO, Egypt - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview aired
> > Monday that the Bush administration does not have the vision to bring
> > peace in Iraq and that his country could help calm the crisis if
> > approached. Assad told ABC's "Good Morning America" that U.S.-Syrian
> > cooperation was the "last chance" to avert a civil war in Iraq
 
"_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
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> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Tough Tonto" <Chemo@subby.com> wrote in message
>> news:tDtyh.2192$Yl3.2169@trndny09...
>>>> What's so hard about getting on the telephone with the PM, or Sadr, or
>>>> whothe****ever and say, "Hey there! I'm the lop-eared Syrian
>>>> ruler-guy,
>>>> why don't you folks start acting right?"
>>>> Why do they have to be asked to do that?
>>>> What the **** would be accomplished by doing that?
>>> They believe that some belligerent loudmouth like you
>>> would answer the phone.

>> Thanks for ducking the questions.

> I think my response addresses your questions pretty directly, in case you
> are interested in actually discussing the issue.


What EXACTLY can Syria do or say?
 
"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
> news:xBOyh.13901$fT1.80@trndny02...
>> I think my response addresses your questions pretty directly, in case you
>> are interested in actually discussing the issue.

>
> What EXACTLY can Syria do or say?


EXACTLY? I don't know enough about diplomacy to precisely describe a
scenario. He is offering to support "the dialogue between the different
parties inside Iraq with support from the other parties, like the Americans
and any other country in the world." It seems Syria could be in as good a
place as any other country to impartially foster meetings between the
parties involved. For some reason there seems to be a convention that a
third party has to intercede in order for opposed sides to have an excuse to
discuss the possibility of ending a conflict, rather than just wait for
one's side to win, surrender, or be defeated. And an outside party can be a
helpful goad when the parties fighting seem otherwise disinclined to talk.
The fact that they are fighting is a good sign that they are disinclined to
talk.

If we were to take Syria up on this, I guess the word would go out that
whatever sides exist in this fight should send representatives to Damascus
or somewhere, and they would sit and talk and see if there was any room for
compromise to end the fighting. If the sides wouldn't take Syria up on
this, then nothing would happen.

As I said, I don't know much about diplomacy. I just know that,
historically, parties representing different countries, even countries with
bad relationships with each others, have met and had discussions with each
other, and that sometimes these discussions have been fruitful. The Bush
administration seems relatively unaware of this, so a country in the region
that wants to make this happen seems like something Bush should be convinced
to take advantage of.

Not that I entirely trust Syria's intentions, but I don't know how they
would be likely to make things worse by getting Iraqis talking to each
other.

_invertebrate_
 
"_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
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> "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
>> news:xBOyh.13901$fT1.80@trndny02...
>>> I think my response addresses your questions pretty directly, in case
>>> you are interested in actually discussing the issue.

>> What EXACTLY can Syria do or say?

> EXACTLY? I don't know enough about diplomacy to precisely describe a
> scenario.


But my pinning you down made you think about it.

> For some reason there seems to be a convention that a third party has to
> intercede in order for opposed sides to have an excuse to discuss the
> possibility of ending a conflict, rather than just wait for one's side to
> win, surrender, or be defeated.


Without a thrid party one side or the other might just shoot the other
across the table!

> If we were to take Syria up on this, I guess the word would go out that
> whatever sides exist in this fight should send representatives to Damascus
> or somewhere, and they would sit and talk and see if there was any room
> for compromise to end the fighting. If the sides wouldn't take Syria up
> on this, then nothing would happen.


Here's the problem. Iraq has a legitimately elected civilian government.
The notion of their being another side IS WRONG. There's ONE side. The
legitimately elected civilian gov't IS Iraq. Everyone else falls into ONE
of these categories:

1) Peaceful law-abiding citizens.
2) Iraqi insurgent-citizens, criminals.
3) Foreign terrorists, criminals.

Explain to me why ANYBODY would negotiate with CRIMINALS?

> Not that I entirely trust Syria's intentions, but I don't know how they
> would be likely to make things worse by getting Iraqis talking to each
> other.


You think it would be beneficial to LEGITIMIZE CRIMINALS as an actual legal
entity thereby worthy of COMPROMISE?
 
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> "_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
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> > "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:O%2zh.1057$Yn4.770@trnddc03...
> >> "_invertebrate_" <_invertebrate_@wormhole.va> wrote in message
> >> news:xBOyh.13901$fT1.80@trndny02...
> >>> I think my response addresses your questions pretty directly, in case
> >>> you are interested in actually discussing the issue.
> >> What EXACTLY can Syria do or say?

> > EXACTLY? I don't know enough about diplomacy to precisely describe a
> > scenario.

>
> But my pinning you down made you think about it.
>
> > For some reason there seems to be a convention that a third party has to
> > intercede in order for opposed sides to have an excuse to discuss the
> > possibility of ending a conflict, rather than just wait for one's side to
> > win, surrender, or be defeated.

>
> Without a thrid party one side or the other might just shoot the other
> across the table!
>
> > If we were to take Syria up on this, I guess the word would go out that
> > whatever sides exist in this fight should send representatives to Damascus
> > or somewhere, and they would sit and talk and see if there was any room
> > for compromise to end the fighting. If the sides wouldn't take Syria up
> > on this, then nothing would happen.

>
> Here's the problem. Iraq has a legitimately elected civilian government.
> The notion of their being another side IS WRONG. There's ONE side. The
> legitimately elected civilian gov't IS Iraq. Everyone else falls into ONE
> of these categories:
>
> 1) Peaceful law-abiding citizens.
> 2) Iraqi insurgent-citizens, criminals.
> 3) Foreign terrorists, criminals.
>
> Explain to me why ANYBODY would negotiate with CRIMINALS?
>
> > Not that I entirely trust Syria's intentions, but I don't know how they
> > would be likely to make things worse by getting Iraqis talking to each
> > other.

>
> You think it would be beneficial to LEGITIMIZE CRIMINALS as an actual legal
> entity thereby worthy of COMPROMISE?


the bushies are the criminals. and putting up a puppet in Baghdad
doesn't cut it. as the following article points out. the U.S. is not
wanted in these discussions. so there!


By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press writer Thu Feb 1, 6:11 AM ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Iraq invited officials from Iran,
Syria and other neighboring nations to Baghdad next month to discuss the
security situation in the country, a government official said Thursday.
The Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity
because he was not authorized to disclose the information, said the
talks will be the first of 10 such meetings to take place in the Iraqi
capital. Iran was the venue for the last meeting in July.
Along with Iran and Syria, Iraq has invited Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan,
Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to the discussions. The Arab League,
Organization of Islamic Conference and the
United Nations also have been asked to attend, the official said.
 
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