Why opposition to drilling for oil in the "Arctic National WildlifeRefuge" is ridiculous.

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On Mar 25, 1:54 pm, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
> A six month supply and no guarantee that the oil would not be sold to
> another country.


"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote
> Proof ??

Tell us how ANWR oil would be restructed for sale only in the U.S.

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"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote
> If they had authorised it ten years ago we'd be using it by now.

No, you would be using 1/10th of the daily production now. The rest would
be going to other nations.

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"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com> wrote
> And will remain so whether we drill in ANWR or not.

So anwr production will do nothing to alter prices. And do nothing to
reduce AmeriKKKan reliance on foreign oil.

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"Cat_in_awe" <rl3166pls@excite.com> wrote
> Cite? 10-20 billion barrels is a 'few months' supply?

Yup. The world consumes about 100 million barrels of oil per day.

Apparently you don't know how to divide.

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"John Black" <jblack@texas.net> wrote
> Correction. They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> favoring dependency on Middle East oil.

KKKonservative MMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN

Canada is AmeriKKKa's leading supplier of Oil, and Intelligence.
 
John Black wrote:
> In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderhome@yahoo.com says...
> > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. See all the pertinent and
> > laughable facts at:
> >
> > http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html - with pictures, maps, and
> > info links
>
> Correction. They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
>
> John Black
>
> --

Our oil, It's not like were taking about foreigners here, whatever the
case allowing the Republican government to do anything that controls
large amounts of resources is a tragically stupid thing to do.
 

>> Certainly the rest of the world is developing alternative sources of
>> Energy,


"Bawana" <mrbawana2u@yahoo.com> wrote
> How is that working out, ****tard?

Quite well actually.

If you weren't such a MMMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRROOOOOONNNNNNNN
you would have known that.
 
"V-for-Vendicar" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:lbBGj.45203$612.4126@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjc@mindspring.com> wrote
>> Why spend our time trying to find a non-renewable resource that is
>> already causing problems. Why not spend our time and money developing
>> renewable resources? But that would take brain power and you don't
>> approve of using your brain, do you?
>
> Because change is bad for big corporations. And AmeriKKKa is a Fascist
> state that us run by Big Corporations.
>
>

Why?
 
On Mar 27, 12:51 pm, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> In article <df2cc52e-a8bc-46db-8768-352d6a8aca51@
> 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 26, 11:55 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > > In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> > > @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderh...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > > > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > > > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > > > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. See all the pertinent and
> > > > laughable facts at:
>
> > > >http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html-with pictures, maps, and
> > > > info links
>
> > > Correction. They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> > > because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> > > favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
>
> > We're not dependent on ME oil. Ten of the 15 principal suppliers of
> > crude oil to the US are not in the Middle East. Our biggest suppler is
> > Canada.
>
> Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?
>
> John Black
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

Why? Why not get oil from the cheapest place we can?

And most of our imported oil is from (1) Canada and (2) Mexico.
 
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:14:08 -0400, "Cat_in_awe"
<rl3166pls@excite.com> wrote:

>Lloyd wrote:
>> On Mar 26, 9:20 am, "Cat_in_awe" <rl3166...@excite.com> wrote:
>>> Lloyd wrote:
>>>>> We're not worried about "global reserves".The oil under ANWAR
>>>>> belongs to the U.S
>>>
>>>> Irrelevant. Less oil would be sent here from Mexico or Canada. And
>>>> the price is determined by the world market.
>>>
>>>>>> What effect would ANWR production have on the prices of gasoline,
>>>>>> fuel oil and diesel fuel?
>>>
>>>> Zero. Oil price is determined by the world market.
>>>
>>> SUPPLY and demand aren't components of a market?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>
>> Yes, and OPEC is the 500-pound gorilla that controls supply.
>
>All the oil produced in Africa, the US, South America and the rest of the
>world is controlled by OPEC?

Them and the market speculators.......Pricewise.
 
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:33 -0700 (PDT), Lloyd
<lparker@emory.edu> wrote:

>Why? Why not get oil from the cheapest place we can?

The price of oil is a world market price.

ANWAR would be drilled by Multinational Companies
 
Cat_in_awe wrote:
> Lloyd wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 9:20 am, "Cat_in_awe" <rl3166...@excite.com> wrote:
> >> Lloyd wrote:
> >>>> We're not worried about "global reserves".The oil under ANWAR
> >>>> belongs to the U.S
> >>
> >>> Irrelevant. Less oil would be sent here from Mexico or Canada. And
> >>> the price is determined by the world market.
> >>
> >>>>> What effect would ANWR production have on the prices of gasoline,
> >>>>> fuel oil and diesel fuel?
> >>
> >>> Zero. Oil price is determined by the world market.
> >>
> >> SUPPLY and demand aren't components of a market?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
> >
> > Yes, and OPEC is the 500-pound gorilla that controls supply.
>
> All the oil produced in Africa, the US, South America and the rest of the
> world is controlled by OPEC?
>
Did he say that specifically you mindless ****?
 
John Black wrote:
> In article <df2cc52e-a8bc-46db-8768-352d6a8aca51@
> 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505@gmail.com says...
> > On Mar 26, 11:55�am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > > In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> > > @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderh...@yahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > > > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > > > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > > > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. �See all the pertinent and
> > > > laughable facts at:
> > >
> > > >http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html- with pictures, maps, and
> > > > info links
> > >
> > > Correction. �They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> > > because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> > > favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
> > >
> > We're not dependent on ME oil. Ten of the 15 principal suppliers of
> > crude oil to the US are not in the Middle East. Our biggest suppler is
> > Canada.
>
> Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?
>
> John Black
>

Wouldn't it be better if we exported less oil? The Republicans get a
hold of it say byebye

See it's like this, Republicans in government don't serve the people.
They are greedy self serving subhumans
who are used to not being questioned by their party in matters of
ethics in government.
 
John B. wrote:
> On Mar 27, 12:51�pm, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > In article <df2cc52e-a8bc-46db-8768-352d6a8aca51@
> > 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 26, 11:55�am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> > > > @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderh...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> > > > > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > > > > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > > > > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > > > > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. �See all the pertinent and
> > > > > laughable facts at:
> >
> > > > >http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html-with pictures, maps, and
> > > > > info links
> >
> > > > Correction. �They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> > > > because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> > > > favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
> >
> > > We're not dependent on ME oil. Ten of the 15 principal suppliers of
> > > crude oil to the US are not in the Middle East. Our biggest suppler is
> > > Canada.
> >
> > Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?
> >
> > John Black
>
> Sure, but how much less would we import? My guess is the difference
> would be negligible. Instead of trying to import less, we should be
> trying to USE less.

We need a leader who could rally the troops into being for energy
conservation, hmmm who could do that, oh the mortal enemy of
environmental common sense, Al Gore.
 
On Mar 28, 4:01 pm, monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:
> John Black wrote:
> > In article <df2cc52e-a8bc-46db-8768-352d6a8aca51@
> > 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> > > On Mar 26, 11:55�am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> > > > @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderh...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > > > > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > > > > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > > > > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. �See all the pertinent and
> > > > > laughable facts at:
>
> > > > >http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html-with pictures, maps, and
> > > > > info links
>
> > > > Correction. �They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> > > > because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> > > > favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
>
> > > We're not dependent on ME oil. Ten of the 15 principal suppliers of
> > > crude oil to the US are not in the Middle East. Our biggest suppler is
> > > Canada.
>
> > Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?
>
> > John Black
>
> Wouldn't it be better if we exported less oil? The Republicans get a
> hold of it say byebye
>

Well if you exported less you'd make less money. Better to import less
-- that way you keep your money. Not only that, but you don't hand as
much over to people whom your government says 'hate America'.

> See it's like this, Republicans in government don't serve the people.

Oh yes they do. Which people they serve is the tricky thing.

> They are greedy self serving subhumans
> who are used to not being questioned by their party in matters of
> ethics in government


I'll go with greedy and self-serving, but 'sub-human'? No. Their
behaviour is all too human. It's not the only way humans can be of
course, and it's up to those who think it can be different to ensure
that those who do make it to high office have a stronger understanding
and desire to serve notions like 'equity', 'human rights'
'accountability' etc.

That's unlikely to happen under present arrangements. You need to get
away from this idea of auctioning off the presidency to one of the
highest bidders who manages to come up with the most bullet proof
lowest common denominator predigested spin.

Fran


>
> - Show quoted text -
 
On Mar 28, 1:24 am, Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 4:01 pm, monkey_cart...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > John Black wrote:
> > > In article <df2cc52e-a8bc-46db-8768-352d6a8aca51@
> > > 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> > > > On Mar 26, 11:55�am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article <eba38bc5-4d8a-4fbe-a768-40ec70a41455
> > > > > @i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, calderh...@yahoo.com says...
>
> > > > > > If the average American citizen knew all the true facts about the
> > > > > > possibility of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife
> > > > > > Refuge, they would be very angry at Congress and the so-called
> > > > > > "environmental lobby" for opposing it. �See all the pertinent and
> > > > > > laughable facts at:
>
> > > > > >http://home.att.net/~meditation/ANWR.html-withpictures, maps, and
> > > > > > info links
>
> > > > > Correction. �They would be very angry at the democrats in congress
> > > > > because it is they who are blocking us from getting our own oil,
> > > > > favoring dependency on Middle East oil.
>
> > > > We're not dependent on ME oil. Ten of the 15 principal suppliers of
> > > > crude oil to the US are not in the Middle East. Our biggest suppler is
> > > > Canada.
>
> > > Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?
>
> > > John Black
>
> > Wouldn't it be better if we exported less oil? The Republicans get a
> > hold of it say byebye
>
> Well if you exported less you'd make less money. Better to import less
> -- that way you keep your money. Not only that, but you don't hand as
> much over to people whom your government says 'hate America'.

Canadians and Mexicans hate America? When did our government say that?

>
> > See it's like this, Republicans in government don't serve the people.
>
> Oh yes they do. Which people they serve is the tricky thing.
>
> > They are greedy self serving subhumans
> > who are used to not being questioned by their party in matters of
> > ethics in government
>
> I'll go with greedy and self-serving, but 'sub-human'? No. Their
> behaviour is all too human. It's not the only way humans can be of
> course, and it's up to those who think it can be different to ensure
> that those who do make it to high office have a stronger understanding
> and desire to serve notions like 'equity', 'human rights'
> 'accountability' etc.
>
> That's unlikely to happen under present arrangements. You need to get
> away from this idea of auctioning off the presidency to one of the
> highest bidders who manages to come up with the most bullet proof
> lowest common denominator predigested spin.
>
> Fran
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
"John Black" <jblack@texas.net> wrote
> Ok, but wouldn't it be better to import less oil?

It would. But since AmeriKKKa is opposed to corporate Regulation, the
produced oil would be sold on the open market, and not alter significantly
the amount of Oil that AmeriKKKa exports.
 
"Cat_in_awe" <rl3166pls@excite.com> wrote
> This oft-repeated statistic (six-month supply) is deceptive at best and
> nearly a lie. IF we opened ANWR and extracted ALL the available crude,
> and IF the US stopped using ANY other source of oil, that might be a
> 'six-month supply'.

Ya, that's what the term means. It's a means of comparing the amount of oil
with the rate it's being consumed.

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