Clearing up the GenForo BS

[DaMan]

I am tired of having my name dragged through the mud. This will be a long post so if you don't read I don't care. If you don't read it at least refrain from calling me a liar or thief, neither of which I am. Some of this can be collaborated by a couple members here. This will the first and last post I make on the subject.

 

I sold GF to a member of the site. Most of you might have guessed who it was or know who it was by reading new threads at GF after the sale. I have never divulged who it was, even after all the bs that is going on now I still haven't and won't since my word is gold. The buyer requested I keep the info confidential and I have and will continue to do so.

 

While I don't know exactly what happened to GF I do have a good idea about it. The terms of the agreement were that I turn the site over in the same state it was in on my servers. The buyers tech person and I transfered the data and site files. The site was in 100% working order verified by the buyers tech. For a few days life was normal at GF. I logged in everyday as I had while I owned it. One day I noticed that a number of threads were moved into the recycle bin. The forums looked bare to a regular user since the recycle bin was only visible to mods and admins. In the staff forum there was a discussion going on about who used a mods user name and pw to move the threads. One of the newer staff members, after discussion about reorganizing the forums, emptied the recycle bin and piss pot not knowing those 2 forums held all the posts. Poof goes the whole of GF.

Next went the members. I am not sure what happened. My guess is a selective member prune went terribly wrong. After surveying the damage I read the thread in the staff lounge where the new owner and mods were trying to find out what happened. At that point the only people that had access to the site were me, the new owner and a couple mods. I read the thread. The new owner said the site was hacked.

I offered to:

A) Upload the last database from the day of the site transfer. At most 100 posts would be gone. I was given a link to a site to upload the db. I couldn't upload it because the site that I was linked to was slow as hell. Instead I uploaded to my server and gave he new owner access to grad it.

B) Look through the vbulletin logs and cross reference IP with the IP from the db I uploaded for them. I did look through the admin logs and all deleting of members was done by one admin account. The new owners account. I posted what I found out and since the new owner was playing it off to be a hack I asked for server logs to do an investigation. I was told to email the server admin which I did.

C) I also offered to work with the server admin to upgrade vbulletin to the newest version and restore the site as it was after the final transfer.

After posting in the thread with the above offer I logged out. When I didn't get a reply from the server admin the next day I tried to log in to GF. My login and as far as I could tell account was gone and the message you see at GF was all that was there. I emailed the new owner and asked why my log in was deactivated. I was told that he didn't want to take up any of my time since it was decided that a major rebuild would be done.

 

To summarize. A mistake was make by a mod which removed all the threads and posts. The new admin was overwhelmed by the vbulletin admincp and inadvertently deleted all the users except for mods and admins and tried to make it off as a hack to the remaining staff. I offered to investigate and fix the problems and my log in was deactivated.

 

Now the Paypal and subscription problem. I told the new owner and the server admin to change the email address used for the subscriptions. I no longer had access to the site so I couldn't do it. Since my Paypal address is still associated with GF any subscription that comes up for renewal is paid to me. I have canceled each subscription and refunded the money as soon I receive email notification from Paypal. At this point I have all subscriptions cancelled and refunded. If I happened to miss you drop me a PM with the email address you used when you signed up for the subscription and I will refund you. If you get a renewal notice, which no one should, simply cancel the subscription at Paypal.

I have not tried to defraud any one. It is a problem that the new owner refuses to correct for whatever reason.

 

This will be the last thing I say about this.

[phreakwars]

I'll tell you why, because he would rather let the site keep charging people just to make you look bad so he can talk more trash.

 

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[wez]

I'll tell you why, because he would rather let the site keep charging people just to make you look bad so he can talk more trash.

 

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Looks to me like this should clear up any misunderstandings. People with something to hide don't lay it on the line in public view and it makes perfect sense.

[phreakwars]

Seems to me the next step, is just to proceed forward as planned.

 

Obviously the new owner of GF would rather distort the facts about GF, then work together with us. Gossip scum network is obviously the work of the new owner as well, he seems to like to delete posts that are the truth. Myself, I would have been all for cross promoting. GF was what it was, it sucks to see it now being controlled by someone who doesn't want to be honest.

 

So, him.

 

We put the place behind us and create something else. I still have a few hidden member contact tricks up my sleeve, If old GF members haven't found this site by now, then it doesn't matter. We push forward with the initial site plan/theme and count on members who know not to believe the outright BS thrown at them from whatever GF gossip they read on any GF associated site.

 

Myself, I think that's pretty pussy of a member.. a fricken PREMIUM member no less, to NOT come on here and say outright.. HEY I GOT CHARGED, I NEED A REFUND.

 

I don't believe that for a minute for one reason... None of the premium members that I know of would have motivation to remain anonymous about being inadvertently charged.

 

As for those PAYPAL screen shots. How many premium charges did I see?

 

Tells me it was someone who used multiple persona's, cough....Nazz

 

I also noticed charges to Nazz coming AFTER the site was closed... his excuse being the site is down, no running modules... if that was true, I wouldn't see an index, I'd get a 404.

 

But, no need to do a CSI on his lies...time to press on.

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[Ehlo]

Does the BS never end?

 

Now your saying I am charging myself? gimme a break.

 

If its such a big deal, if I am such an asshole, if I am maliciously doing stuff then why not communicate? why because its all bull thats why.

 

GF is gutted and non-op and you know it.

 

GF has absolutely no ability to charge anyone even if it was up and running at 100% and you know it.

 

If your actually telling the truth, if your actually concerned, really pissed off and being truthfully. Hell I will buy you a plane ticket to Chicago and Bob, you and I will get together and solve any and all issues. But thats not going to happen is it Phreak? because its all bull .

 

Bottom line for me is I had good intentions, I underestimated the crazy aspects of on line people. Underestimated the learning curve and underestimated on-line peoples ability to be stand up human beings in reality.

 

There has been no attempt at resolution of anything from you Phreak or you Bob if you actually wanted to fix anything you would respond to an email or a phone call. So I can only assume its all part of the on-line bull and you could care less.

 

Not real high on my list of important things to do trying to get some cooperation out of you two. It is what it is and you both played a role in that, if you want it fixed then lets fix it, if your just going to bitch and moan and play games all I can say is shut the up and move on. My feelings ain't hurt and the money don't mean to me. Lesson learned.

 

Stop being tools of the on-line drama instigators.

[DaMan]

Give me a break. I offered to work with your server admin to upgrade the site and reload the db from the one used for the transfer. What happened? My login was deactivated. I uploaded the db to my server and gave you a link to downoad it. It was never downloaded.

 

I'll say it again. You want GF up and running again? I'll work with Roy to make it happen. Don't come here making it look like I did nothing to help you. I didn't and you know it. All I could do is offer.

Before you gutted the site. Which as far as I can tell happened sometime yesterday, my Paypal address was still in the subscription section so any new subscriptions would have still charge to me. I had 16 premium members and all those subscriptions have been canceled by me at PayPal. Explain to me why I got a new subscription a couple weeks after you locked me out of the site.

Yes the 16 memberships before I sold the site will recur until I cancel them. But how did I get a new subscriber after you bought the site? I know why. You never removed my email like I asked both you and Roy.

 

The ball is in your court. Want GF back up? Have Roy shoot me an email and we'll work out the details.

[Ehlo]

Roy is a net geek/programmer extraordinary he is as bad as you about answering emails the phone and requests of almost any kind.

 

I am not going to continue in this format discussing any thing about REAL BUSINESS if you and Phreak want to discuss stuff, get together or what ever, then do it in a professional manner outside these bull forums.

 

Hell I will even set up a toll free conference call bridge with as many users as you want so any and all can get the truth. I have offered every possible way to communicate in an effective, direct manner. Pick one.

[DaMan]

Phreak and I don't have to get together. This site is our joint venture, but, GF was mine alone. I'm out town tommorrow morning for 4 days to close some loose ends. I'll give you a call when I get back.

[Ehlo]

Phreak and I don't have to get together. This site is our joint venture, but, GF was mine alone. I'm out town tomorrow morning for 4 days to close some loose ends. I'll give you a call when I get back.

What about right now? your phone works at night doesn't it? your awake all the time just like me. Roys always awake also.

 

Phreak likes to talk about the subject like its his so I figured why not let him sit in with the big boys.

[wez]

Stop being tools of the on-line drama instigators.

 

 

Hey moron, isn't that you posting psychotic garbage on that dirt digger site and perusing the internet under several aliases trying to gain some perspective of sanity? I don't see anyone tooling up the drama online except you. Please explain..

 

I guess I must be quite critical in your real life, big boy dealings to be talked about so much by you... I'm flattered... fill me in. By the way, do I know you? Don't think we've spoke much.. Other than you assuring me I'm not from MN and banning my ass as OVERFIEND a day or 2 before you spazzed out and went incognito extradinare. Remember?

[phreakwars]

What about right now? your phone works at night doesn't it? your awake all the time just like me. Roys always awake also.

 

Phreak likes to talk about the subject like its his so I figured why not let him sit in with the big boys.

Leave me out of it. Like you should have when the place was sold to you in the first place.

[Ehlo]

Leave yourself out of it then. not your concern. If you can't stop yourself from making comments on the subject then I will assume you want to be involved in it. and assume you will let me know when you want to be flown out to IL Pretty simple that.

 

As far as the crap at the gossip-scum it ain't me making comments about it. Don't care if you believe me or not. The fact that no real communication goes on in a professional manner says it's all just hype on your part and the rest of the drama queens.

[wez]

Leave yourself out of it then. not your concern. If you can't stop yourself from making comments on the subject then I will assume you want to be involved in it. and assume you will let me know when you want to be flown out to IL Pretty simple that.

 

As far as the crap at the gossip-scum it ain't me making comments about it. Don't care if you believe me or not. The fact that no real communication goes on in a professional manner says it's all just hype on your part and the rest of the drama queens.

 

Lying hypocrite... Why did you go into hiding?

[Ehlo]

Hey moron, isn't that you posting psychotic garbage on that dirt digger site and perusing the internet under several aliases trying to gain some perspective of sanity? I don't see anyone tooling up the drama online except you. Please explain..

 

I guess I must be quite critical in your real life, big boy dealings to be talked about so much by you... I'm flattered... fill me in. By the way, do I know you? Don't think we've spoke much.. Other than you assuring me I'm not from MN and banning my ass as OVERFIEND a day or 2 before you spazzed out and went incognito extradinare. Remember?

As for you retard, your not fit to lick the smeg off any of our boots let alone have an adult conversation, how about you crawl under your rock and not discuss things you know nothing about.

[wez]

As for you retard, your not fit to lick the smeg off any of our boots let alone have an adult conversation, how about you crawl under your rock and not discuss things you know nothing about.

 

Good one... where ya been?

 

I suppose you're now gonna try to assure me it wasn't you posting and banning as OVERIDIOT.. I believe you, lying, hiding, spaz.

[Ehlo]

Lying hypocrite... Why did you go into hiding?

O-what the hell, I will play with you Wez. I wil take a break from being serious and having a discussion with two other sane adults and slop around in the mud wiht you a bit since i am bored.

 

When was the last time you stalked a board member wez? damn when was there a day in the bast 5-8 years of your life you were not on-line pretending?

[wez]

O-what the hell, I will play with you Wez. I wil take a break from being serious and having a discussion with two other sane adults and slop around in the mud wiht you a bit since i am bored.

 

When was the last time you stalked a board member wez? damn when was there a day in the bast 5-8 years of your life you were not on-line pretending?

 

Who did I stalk? And do I know you? Sounds like you've been getting your ass licked by the biggest internet stalker/lying hypocrite I've personally met in my 2 3/4 years online, eddo. Hahahahahahahaha... put your eggs in his basket, I dare ya.. Hahahahahahaha

 

By the way, most of my life long friends call me wez to this day, dumbass. 5 - 8 years? I'm guessing that would also be you.. Hahahahahahahaha

 

Open your mouth again.. I'm bored with you...

[Ehlo]

Who did I stalk? And do I know you? Sounds like you've been getting your ass licked by the biggest internet stalker/lying hypocrite I've personally met in my 2 3/4 years online, eddo. Hahahahahahahaha... put your eggs in his basket, I dare ya.. Hahahahahahaha

Hey arnt you all about "truth" and not being a hypocrite and being who you "Really" are and not hiding and all that? how about setting an example of what you preach Mr. Reality and post up your real name and info. I can hook you up if you want, give me your email address and I will send you an application form and waiver for the upcoming tough-man contest, fly you out to the east coast, pay your entry fee, set you up in a hotel, the works. what do you say?

[wez]

Hey arnt you all about "truth" and not being a hypocrite and being who you "Really" are and not hiding and all that? how about setting an example of what you preach Mr. Reality and post up your real name and info. I can hook you up if you want, give me your email address and I will send you an application form and waiver for the upcoming tough-man contest, fly out to the east coast, pay your entry fee, set you up in a hotel, the works. what do you say?

 

 

I say you crazy... how about that?

[Ehlo]

I say you crazy... how about that?

Translated that means your a talking pussy. Best go play with someone that does not have the resources, ability and mean streak to turn your wise-ass inside out. This isn't your topic, and this isnt a subject we are joking about. How about you move along while we conduct business.

[wez]

Translated that means your a talking pussy. Best go play with someone that does not have the resources, ability and mean streak to turn your wise-ass inside out. This isn't your topic, and this isnt a subject we are joking about. How about you move along while we conduct business.

 

Yes sir! ~ eddo in all seriousness to OVERFIEND on the last shoutbox post I saw on GF before OVERFIEND banned my ass.

 

I don't play the bodily injury threat game.. nice knowing ya, or not.

[Jhony5]

Translated that means your a talking pussy. Best go play with someone that does not have the resources, ability and mean streak to turn your wise-ass inside out. This isn't your topic, and this isnt a subject we are joking about. How about you move along while we conduct business.

 

Hows about you keep your "business" strictly limited to a PM so the rest of us don't have to read your ed up tripe?

 

Your presence here is most unwelcome. Good luck gathering together the $3.50 needed to launch your piece O shat website. Might I suggest selling oranges on the street corner to make the extra coin. Perhaps doing so while exposing your portly belly so as to attract the real source of monetary gain, a wealthy businessmen looking for a hand job while the scent of citrus lofts in the air.

 

To say that you're a joke would insinuate that somehow I am amused by your suffering of the little man big mouth syndrome.

[wez]

To whom it may concern...

 

I signed up for karate lessons today and stole a phonebook from the library....

 

Anybody know where I can get a mean streak?

[ToriAllen]

Can't we all just get along?

[snafu]

Can't we all just get along?

 

I'm with you honey.