The New WPYO

[phreakwars]

Bob is currently in the process of coding some new features for GF that I think alot of you will enjoy.

 

Premium members will be able to create their own pages and add content like you can at myspace.

 

There is also a blog system, friends network, and private messaging independent of vbulletin's.

 

It is something that we had discussed over a year ago to take GF into the next phase of BBS Forums, and to set the standard for the next generation of blogging.

 

He has been coding alot of it in his spare time and will also be intergrating some available hacks to make the system work.

 

Other wickedly fun options will be available to Premiums but I'm not going to get into any specifics at this time until Bob has put up the Beta for me to play around with and test out.

 

One of the things that we do need are icons for the form categories and a new logo.

 

The plan is to take us back to the oldstyle layout that some of you older members are familiar with.

 

An example of old style GF can be found on http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/index.php

 

We will be breaking down forums in the following manor:

 

MEMBER FEEDBACK

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  [ ]FEEDBACK FORUM
  [ ]MEMBERS LOUNGE

RANTS AND RAVES>RENAMED "THE ISSUES"

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  [ ]WHAT PISSES YOU OFF ?
  [ ]POLLS AND DEBATES (Let's us mix em up a little and create polls from debates easier)
  [ ]NEWS
  [ ]REVIEWS
  [ ]RANTS, RAVES AND OTHER BULLSHIT (replace speak your mind, good place to throw alot of Lethalfind's posts
  [ ]THE PISS POT > SUB CATEGORYS: NEWS ARCHIVE & SPAM

I will be working on the logo myself, if anybody would like to volenteer to do the icons, that would be cool, just let us know.

 

I will give a free Premium membership to anybody who isn't a Premium who helps create the new icons... or if you ARE a Premium, and you help create them, I'll ... uhh, I better not say until the revamp is done.

 

Personally, I have been looking forward to the revamp for quite some time.

 

I won't give an exact date, but hopefully the new GF will be done before X-mas.

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[eddo]

I'll pay $50 a year if Bob can come up with a virtual bitch slap that will either make the intended's ass jump out of their chair or their computer shut down for 10-15 minutes.

 

[Ctrl]

If you want to give me some parameters (approx size, colors to keep in mind, style) to keep in line with your logo... Ill give a few a shot. If they suck I wont cry and splain why they are good.

[Jhony5]

I'd like to see a ranking format used in the debate forum. Similar to the rep system we currently have (which is pointless as it is now due to the cap glitch).

To encourage more spirited debates as opposed to chat room fodder derailment taking place in every forum.

 

Maybe a point system in each debate thread that other users can vote for whomever they feel is 'winning' a debate. Whatever points are accumulated are added to a total and displayed for all to view.

 

You have your instructions, now DO IT!

[Ctrl]

I think that is a great idea.

 

 

A point system, like an actual debate... so that people can keep an active tally of the consensus of victory. To watch people cry as they lose, and explain that everyone is stupid but them. I want this feature. I don't know quite how you would avoid cheating the system... perhaps only paid memberships get voting priveledges, and only 2 per day (in case an argument sways decisions)...

 

I dont know, but its a smashing idea.

[hugo]

I think that is a great idea.

 

 

A point system, like an actual debate... so that people can keep an active tally of the consensus of victory. To watch people cry as they lose, and explain that everyone is stupid but them. I want this feature. I don't know quite how you would avoid cheating the system... perhaps only paid memberships get voting priveledges, and only 2 per day (in case an argument sways decisions)...

 

I dont know, but its a smashing idea.

 

The voting is always partisan.

[Ctrl]

The voting is always partisan.

 

No... YOUR voting is always partisan. I will side with who I believe is winning based on the execution of a given argument.

[ClassyMissFancy]

I would vote for who ever appears to be winning the debate based on their knowledge of the topic, willingness to do research, and their debating skills (Taking the piss out of someone is funny as hell.. but it isn't a debating skiill and while it sometimes makes me ROTFL... it wouldn't get points.)

 

In the event of a tie between you guys... the one with the largest cock would win.

[eisanbt]

Too often does the decision of who is winning come down to the reader’s bias towards one view point or another. There have been many debates here where both people will debate on and on, all the while claiming that there is nothing left to refute and no new information that needs to be brought it

 

"I've already proven that you are wrong; I win" is usually followed with a like response. Both are as assured in their convictions as their readers. Plus, no matter what happy intentions held by the best of us to be unbiased and judge on merit, the obvious dispositions which exist among our members will forever collapse into their regular trends on 80% of subjects. EG: I'd always end up supporting Hamza and another few would always be supporting MRIH in their ever lasting argument.

 

After the excitement of potential improvement, the ambition fades and the same trends always re-emerge.

[Jhony5]

Some folks are just too stubborn. I will rep someone even while I'm in the middle of a debate with them, as long as they make a good argument to their point of view. A good debater can drum up very strong argument on either side of the debate.

[phreakwars]

Getting back on track a bit, and getting back on topic.

 

I think with the NEW FREE AOL it leaves forums and such like GF in a MUCH better position, and I think I can explain a little bit more about PREMIUM services.

 

$12 is just a damn buy in to the GF community to add a couple extra permissions to your user group, nothing more.

 

I think by allowing people to participate for free on any given forum is great.

 

Premium memberships allow web site owners to design content around certain member levels.

 

The Internet HAS evolved. You'll notice Time magazine named basically the whole Internet community as person of the year... while I think it is a total crock of shit, I do think that as the Internet grows. More cluster communities will form. On one hand, you have sites like MY SPACE who bring content to web users based on other members page expressions..

 

Then, you have YOUTUBE and FLURL providing media content submitted by people all over the world.

 

AOL basically turned into nothing but a spam fest content provider.

 

I think it caved in under it's own shit.

 

I think the best way to control an online community is to control who gets into the club and who doesn't.

 

I disagree with assigning the task of sorting out who stays and who goes, and call these people MODERATORS. Or as AOL liked to call them "GUIDES".

 

I strongly believe in power to the people. It all sorts itself out in the end.

 

It is my belief that the NEW GF will evolve into a content portal created by ONLY Premium members, but available free of charge for the rest of the world to participate in.

 

Basically combining the member personality profile, with their media uploads, and forum commentary, and in addition, be able to speak with that person in live chat, or instant messages.

 

If you think about it. The reason regular members don't get to use the pager system like everyone else, is because it would be too easy to write a script that will spam a message to members.

 

By only giving this ability to premium and legacy members, it prevents members from seeing shit like pop up bot ads, or messages from people they don't know.

 

A Premium membership is paid for legitimately, so if anything, you ARE more secure in the community, because if anything, if you ARE being threatened personally in any way, you will have at your disposal the identity of the person threatening you.

 

So your "HATEFUL" premium comrades still are forced to be your friend in the end.

 

You can't get that with a standard membership because it's too easy to create multiple accounts, or use proxies.

 

Eventually, WHEN the Premium group grows to a considerable size, you start giving MORE exclusive content and access, or even possibly restructure forum category or views permissions.

 

Questions ??

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[jokersarewild]

Or, maybe GF will become like AIM and cave under its own shit. Shit being Mods that don't moderate.

 

Oh, I'm being combative and bringing up a subject that Phreak will bitch at me about. He'll be like "OMG no, you guys complain." Show me one spot where an intelligent person complained. Someone with some sort of standing. No, you won't because you don't care.

[phreakwars]

7 days in the box for giving me a headache.

 

Moderating at it's finest.

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[jokersarewild]

Whatev. And where is this moderating?

[phreakwars]

Oh tell us all Joker... HOW should we be doing our job ??

 

Your oh so good at saying we don't.

 

So do tell... how SHOULD we do our jobs ??

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[jokersarewild]

Oh tell us all Joker... HOW should we be doing our job ??

 

Your oh so good at saying we don't.

 

So do tell... how SHOULD we do our jobs ??

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First of all, don't use that piece of shit you use to deliver piz...oh, you meant on here.

 

Well, first off: These stupid ass polls about random shit have got to have their own place. I mean, the polling booth has to be totally devoted to stupid shit.

 

Now, the most simple thing to do: Take something like the "What pisses you off" or "Speak your mind" subforum, and make that the only moderated subforum. And actually MODERATE. You know what I'm talking about, Phreak, because you used to do it. Back when GF was actually about debate.

[phreakwars]

You hear that people ??

 

When Matt is elected supreme chancellor, and high moderator extraordinaire, you all...

 

Shape up, or were gonna start cracking skulls and BANNING people.

 

Yes, pay us $12 and we will promptly BAN you for not debating.

 

Don't pay us $12, we will ban you for not debating even quicker.

 

Yes, thank you Matt, thank you, you are truly a fucking genius, you should have been working for AOL..

 

That totally conflicts with this statement:

 

I disagree with assigning the task of sorting out who stays and who goes, and call these people MODERATORS. Or as AOL liked to call them "GUIDES".

 

I strongly believe in power to the people. It all sorts itself out in the end.

You don't tell people where a topic should go, and you don't tell people how to conduct themselves to make everybody else happy.

 

If the topic is stupid, then don't fucking read it.

 

If the topic is about you and you don't like it, then don't come here.

 

Doesn't get any fucking easier then that now does it ??

 

How many fucking times have I always said, if the fucking topic doesn't stay on track, or stay serious, it is the responsibility of the person who started the topic to bitch at the person who led it off on the tangent.

 

Mods are only here to serve... and yes in many ways choose favorites...

 

Your fucking right I'll make someone elses useless life even more fucking entertaining by being mean to someone who annoys them anyway.

 

Take for instance, Nazz the other day.

 

He actually called me on my house phone, worried about the complaint of another member on here... I told him to tell this other member to either fucking grow a pair or get the fuck out.

 

Whether the topic was serious or not made no difference.

Maybe you just don't belong here Matt.

Sorry there are no young girls here for you to pick up, and I'm sorry you feel fixated with other members and try stalking them (watch out for this perv BTW ladies), but perhaps GF is not up to your standards, because it's content is not appropriate for you, you should try the my space community instead.

 

It serves sexual predators such as yourself much easier Joker.

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[Mack the Knife]

Interesting, I was under the impression that this forum was unmoderated. That's scary that you have people calling your house. Can I have your phone number? The one listed in the phone book seems to be disconnected again.

[jokersarewild]

When Matt is elected supreme chancellor, and high moderator extraordinaire, you all...

 

Shape up, or were gonna start cracking skulls and BANNING people.

 

Yes, pay us $12 and we will promptly BAN you for not debating.

 

Don't pay us $12, we will ban you for not debating even quicker.

 

Yes, thank you Matt, thank you, you are truly a fucking genius, you should have been working for AOL..

 

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1. When did I talk about banning people? Not once, Eric. I simply stated that one forum should be moderated. You know, like you did back in the day that this forum wasn't covered in trolls and debate was a reality? People used to actually debate on this so called "Best Damn Debate Forum". Is there debate anymore, Eric? No, there isn't. You can dismiss my claims by attempting to mock them, but I can draw on something for my claims: The fact that I've been a member on this eroding forum for years.

 

2. If I were a programmer at AOL...I wouldn't give a fuck how much of a genious you didn't think I was...I'd be fuckin' makin' bank.

 

3. A sexual predator? Seriously, Eric, what's up with that? Such a ludicrous claim is tremendously asinine, and, for someone like you, a way to avoid actually responding to my suggestions. I mean, that's a claim I'd expect Nazz to make on an average day. But you generally tend to take the high road on shit like that, because of your little incident back in the day with the IRC and the kiddie porn.

[phreakwars]

Again.. how should it be moderated fucker ??

 

People pay to be here.. how should I tell them they need to conduct themselves ??

 

I won't

 

As for you being a sexual predator... that's not very hard to accertain at all.

 

Shall we name names ??

 

If you want me to moderate.. I'll moderate... I'll start by making people aware of fixated sexual predator fucks such as yourself.

 

You keep saying shit about how I USED to moderate.. well, what has fucking changed ?? What is different ??

 

And HOW has the site declined ??

 

Because we don't talk about shit you want to talk about ??

 

Boo fucking hoo..

 

If you don't see a topic you want to discuss, then create your own moron.

 

If nobody responds, then tough shit.

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[jokersarewild]

Again.. how should it be moderated fucker ??

 

People pay to be here.. how should I tell them they need to conduct themselves ??

 

Don't give me that. You know that it's the ones that don't pay/aren't legacy that need moderation.

 

 

As for you being a sexual predator... that's not very hard to accertain at all.

 

Shall we name names ??

 

 

I don't know what you're getting at with this. What names? And by "not very hard to ascertain" you are admitting yourself that you haven't a clue what you're talking about, since you're basically guessing.

 

But seriously, Phreak, tell me who I've supposedly preyed on.

 

If you want me to moderate.. I'll moderate... I'll start by making people aware of fixated sexual predator fucks such as yourself.

 

Again, what?

 

You keep saying shit about how I USED to moderate.. well, what has fucking changed ?? What is different ??

 

That you don't.

[phreakwars]

Don't give me that. You know that it's the ones that don't pay/aren't legacy that need moderation.

Reeeaaallyy...

 

And are they not promptly idiot boxed or banned by myself and other MODS ?? Exhibit A: Screen shots of the mod control panel of all the bans for the last few months. Hell and that's not even the full list. So fuck you punk, tell me we don't moderate here.

 

 

I don't know what you're getting at with this. What names? And by "not very hard to ascertain" you are admitting yourself that you haven't a clue what you're talking about, since you're basically guessing.

But seriously, Phreak, tell me who I've supposedly preyed on.

 

Melissa, if you want to deny that, all a fellow member has to do is ask her, not me.

 

Would you now like me to give details of your predatory ways and take a poll on it ??

 

We'll save that for another topic, for now you can view these screen shots of the MOD panel and try convincing me that we aren't doing our job here...that we don't moderate... oh yeahh... tack on another 7 days in the box for being wrong.

 

It's good to be the mod.

 

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[builder]

I knew it was you all along Builder and now the admin log proves it..Why are you fixated with me? its because I get to go fishing more then you isnt it.

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Hmmm, I see your Corn Hole ID, and your Cock and Balls ID. RO got you on that one.

 

How many more ID's do you have in that list, Nazz?

 

Do you like voting for yourself three times in polls?

[Phantom]

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Poor Booga and I'm Back. They never saw it coming, those poor souls.

 

I guess that means I have actually been banned four times here. Twice for Phantom and twice for the other two. See, JAW? They moderate.

[builder]

And tell me Phantom, how soon did I detect your new account?

 

Phucking JAW wouldn't know if a Great Dane was up his khyber pass.